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Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 1:11pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
There is no group following Jesus today and your group jw is following Satan and the fact that you are stealing Acts 1:8 just proves it.

Oga WAILER,Acts 1:8= Acts 2:42, receive Sense. grin
Acts 1:8 doesn't place Jesus message above his Father's doctrines just as the "apostle's teaching" doesn't place them above his Father's doctrines.

John 7:16 = (1 Corinthians 3:23), go figure. grin
"My doctrine belongs to Him that sent me."

Acts 3:13, Jesus Christ is a servant of Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."
John 9:4, Jesus said "We MUST do the work of the One who sent me"
Jehovah's servants are witnesses of the God who sent Jesus Christ his Son.
We are proudly Jehovah's witnesses,no apologies!


Oga, carry your baggage of delusion outta this forum.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Madups(m): 3:24pm On Feb 19, 2023
If you wan see where person dey talk both wetin im sabi and the one wey im no get any idea about with full confidence, just enter nairaland.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
There is no group following Jesus today and your group jw is following Satan and the fact that you are stealing Acts 1:8 just proves it.
Thanks for letting me know that you don't believe in the WORKS God's only begotten Son commissioned.
So according to you Jesus was a failure.
Thanks for your time Sir!

Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 7:52pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for letting me know that you don't believe in the WORKS God's only begotten Son commissioned.
So according to you Jesus was a failure.
Thanks for your time Sir!
See, proof you jws are evil! Only an evil person would twist my very clear words to another thing that is not there.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
See, proof you jws are evil! Only an evil person would twist my very clear words to another thing that is not there.
Quick question!

Did Jesus passed or failed as the leader and founder of Christianity?
If yes please present the group practicing what Jesus taught today.
But if you're still of the opinion that there is none then what you're saying is that Jesus who prayed for his group to have the same line of thought globally {John 17:22} and that there is no way to identify Jesus' group {Matthew 7:16-18} ọmọ what you mean is that Jesus was a failure! smiley
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Solocoin: 8:06pm On Feb 19, 2023
Lostchild:
I do not hate any church. I repeat; I do not hate any of the church below. But in reality, I just avoid them.

1. Winner Chapel.
2. Redeem Church.
3. Christ Embassy. (I like pastor Chris)

All members of this three churches above have the same mindset in different dimension. When I see any members of these churches above, I avoid them like plague when it comes to spirituality.

Living Faith - Winners Church Members will tell you, accept Jesus and prosper. You cannot serve God and yet still be poor.

Redeem Church Members will tell you to accept Jesus - salvation, and old things have pass away and all things becomes new.

Christ Embassy Members will say, you are facing challenge because you have no faith in the word. They will tell you, have faith in the word of God. Just keep on saying the word. Just keep on doing the word.

These churches and their members are spiritual hypocrite. They focus on the benefit of salvation, while they try to silent the hash price and reality of salvation. They embrace the word and reject the life of the word - the cross which is the mystery and true reality of salvation. The cross is the power of God, and the life of the cross will bring about God perfect plans for mankind.

These group of churches and their members have standardize financial success as the result and benefit of salvation. They see salvation as a gateway to prosperity and peace.

They will tell you to accept Jesus and know peace, forgetting that lasting peace only come after fighting many battles. Even Israel had to fight many battles in the wilderness just to receive the peace of fellowship God promised them.

My Female Neighbor, a winner chapel member who keep asking me to join her church also told me she doesn't like those prophectic and deliverance they do in other church. She told me the real deliverance she believe in, is when they preach only the word of God. She told me preaching the word of God is the true deliverance. She believes in the word, while her faith also contradict the word. The Word Himself () said, he came to heal the broken heart and to set the captive free.

The Word even did cast out demons from those who are possessed and perform many miracles just to restore the wounded. Why is she, a winners chapel member not like deliverance ministry?

This question is ask, who are those in captive?
Who are those the Word Himself came to earth to set free?

Are they not those in dark prisons?
Are they not those in bondage?
Are they not those who are slaves of Satan?

I then told my female neigbour that, some people have many generation idols, evil altars, shrines, and demonic spirit in their life.

Some have Shango in their life.
Some have Ogun in their life.
Some people have Aziza living in them.
Some people have Gbogbo-fermo in their life.
Some people have Uloho in their family.
Some people have Igbine-1 at work in them.
Some people have mermaids and spirit of cobra in their life. While some people are slaving for Kali-roja spirit.

The rulers of darkness has lay hold and bond all of them and they need to be set free (deliverance)

What I see happening in churches of today and what I see too many people do as Christians is contrary to what the deliverer - Jesus Himself thought me.

As a student of God, He thought me that, the true essence of Christianity is the life of the cross.
That is the fallacy they have use to deceived the simple minded people and all of them are going to hell because that is not the true gospel. In Roman 12:12 the Bible say rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continue instant in prayers. The Bible never say we will not see tribulation, but these guys will be deceiving people, in their misdt is soany people people.
A man I enter his taxi was hyping their Pastor like that, if you come to this our church, any of your challenges will be over money jobs and alot of things, I asked him you're a member of this church and you drive taxi is it that you don't love to work on oil company or get money? He couldn't answer till I go down.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 8:08pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Quick question!

Did Jesus passed or failed as the leader and founder of Christianity?
If yes please present the group practicing what Jesus taught today.0
But if you're still of the opinion that there is none then what you're saying is that Jesus who prayed for his group to have the same line of thought globally {John 17:22} and that there is no way to identify Jesus' group {Matthew 7:16-18} ọmọ what you mean is that Jesus was a failure! smiley
The Lord prayed for His group of 12 and your group of devils were not among them.

So carry your devil group and go.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by SeniorMan715(m): 8:18pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
The Lord prayed for His group of 12 and your group of devils were not among them.

So carry your devil group and go.
grin
Dtruthspeaker:
The Lord prayed for His group of 12 and your group of devils were not among them.

So carry your devil group and go.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
The Lord prayed for His group of 12 and your group of devils were not among them.
So carry your devil group and go.
Only his group of twelve shey?


Neither, pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe, on me through their word! John 17:20

Ọmọ next time don't quote me again if you're not equipped enough for scriptural debates.

JWs aren't your mate! smiley
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 8:30pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Only his group of twelve shey?

Neither, pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe, on me through their word! John 17:20

Ọmọ next time don't quote me again if you're not equipped enough for scriptural debates.

JWs aren't your mate! smiley
You said it there "them whch shall believe on me" and you and your group of devils do not believe on Him.

Your group even reduced Him to Angel.

JW devil, you really do not have anything to say. Just carry your devil go.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 8:57pm On Feb 19, 2023
Janosky:
Oga WAILER,Acts 1:8= Acts 2:42, receive Sense. grin
Acts 1:8 doesn't place Jesus message above his Father's doctrines just as the "apostle's teaching" doesn't place them above his Father's doctrines...
See now how you show that jws is a group of mad people.

No one said anything about Jesus being above His Father's Doctrines
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11pm On Feb 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You said it there "them whch shall believe on me" and you and your group of devils do not believe on Him. Your group even reduced Him to Angel. JW devil, you really do not have anything to say. Just carry your devil go.
No wahala nah just produce a performing group that believes exactly as you do in your Jesus if truly your Jesus is real and not a failure.
My own Jesus is the Archangel Michael who is able to gather millions of active disciples that's preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood throughout this planet {Matthew 28:18-20 compare to Act 1:8} he is the commander in chief of all the heavenly armies controlling millions of active disciples who will never raise weapons against their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} or their neighbours {Mark 12:31} and never against their fellow believers! John 13:34-35
He helped them to make peace with everyone because he's the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6
He taught them to have the same line of thought so that globally everyone see millions of people from different races as one body {John 17:22} accusing them as if they've been causing havoc in the society {Matthew 5:11-12} whereas they're the most peaceful and friendly throughout the earth! Matthew 7:16-18

So if all you have to say against them is their belief that Jesus is Michael but you can't find a better performing group then you're lying to your own soul because real faith is justified by WORKS! James 2:18-26 smiley

Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by delkuf(m): 10:53pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala nah just produce a performing group that believes exactly as you do in your Jesus if truly your Jesus is real and not a failure.
My own Jesus is the Archangel Michael who is able to gather millions of active disciples that's preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood throughout this planet {Matthew 28:18-20 compare to Act 1:8} he is the commander in chief of all the heavenly armies controlling millions of active disciples who will never raise weapons against their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} or their neighbours {Mark 12:31} and never against their fellow believers! John 13:34-35
He helped them to make peace with everyone because he's the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6
He taught them to have the same line of thought so that globally everyone see millions of people from different races as one body {John 17:22} accusing them as if they've been causing havoc in the society {Matthew 5:11-12} whereas they're the most peaceful and friendly throughout the earth! Matthew 7:16-18

So if all you have to say against them is their belief that Jesus is Michael but you can't find a better performing group then you're lying to your own soul because real faith is justified by WORKS! James 2:18-26 smiley
Your own Jesus is archangel Michael. Jw una get problem. God forbid
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56pm On Feb 19, 2023
delkuf:
Your own Jesus is archangel Michael. Jw una get problem. God forbid
Present your own Jesus and the achievements of your Jesus nah! cheesy
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by delkuf(m): 11:00pm On Feb 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Present your own Jesus and the achievements of your Jesus nah! cheesy
My Jesus is the son of God almighty. He came to this world and died for my sins on cross in the flesh. And on the third day he resurrected from the death in the flesh
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30am On Feb 20, 2023
delkuf:
My Jesus is the son of God almighty. He came to this world and died for my sins on cross in the flesh. And on the third day he resurrected from the death in the flesh
That's what i too will claim because it's written in the Bible.
What we all need now to prove that Jesus once walked this planet for real is not STORY but the activities of his disciples that's why he said:

"you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

So misinformed Churchgoer, where are your fellow believers and their activities as Jesus foretold about his true disciples? Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26

Jesus knew that there are lots and lots of stories and fairytales about great miraculous and wondrous mythical characters everywhere so it's not his story that will serve as evidence that Jesus is a real person but the activities of his earthly disciples as they're preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:18-20

So present the WORKS of your Jesus not STORY STORY STORY, all of us are entitled to that! smiley
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by delkuf(m): 6:20am On Feb 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That's what i too will claim because it's written in the Bible.
What we all need now to prove that Jesus once walked this planet for real is not STORY but the activities of his disciples that's why he said:

"you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

So misinformed Churchgoer, where are your fellow believers and their activities as Jesus foretold about his true disciples? Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26

Jesus knew that there are lots and lots of stories and fairytales about great miraculous and wondrous mythical characters everywhere so it's not his story that will serve as evidence that Jesus is a real person but the activities of his earthly disciples as they're preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:18-20

So present the WORKS of your Jesus not STORY STORY STORY, all of us are entitled to that! smiley
I don't need any prove. I believe it. It is not a story, it is what I have felt. Now I know how wicked and evil jw is. I use to give audience to them before. So this is the end product of jw. To brain wash you into believing that the Lord Jesus Christ is angel Michael.



P.S, please don't reply me again
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58am On Feb 20, 2023
delkuf:
I don't need any prove. I believe it. It is not a story, it is what I have felt. Now I know how wicked and evil jw is. I use to give audience to them before. So this is the end product of jw. To brain wash you into believing that the Lord Jesus Christ is angel Michael.
That's why you can't preach and teach in Jesus name because you only believe what you can't teach others yet Jesus commanded his own disciples to go out there to preach and teach! Matthew 28:18-20
So your inability to preach and teach in Jesus name to gather more disciples for your Jesus the same way JWs are doing is evidence of the fact that your Jesus is not the true Jesus because he promised to support us with God's Holy Spirit in doing what he commanded! Act 1:8 compare to John 14:26; 15:26

This is why you can't PROVE that Jesus really existed not to talk of being the Christ.

P.S, please don't reply me again
Next time don't start what you can't finish! wink
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by bobestman(m): 8:44am On Feb 20, 2023
If you want to be totally free from religious madness then quit all churches and religion. Their foolishness here is enough proof. God almighty or his son created no religion but a way anyone who discover it can practice wherever he is without denomination. For the true sheep are those who hear and recieve direction from their maker not those who are spiritually blind and deaf but claim to belong cos they do works they see in books that no one spiritually send them to do. The true church is within you for your body is the true temple of the true God. The true temple is not a physical building. Wrong translation of the word church will tell you it is a building but true one will tell you it is those called out. Ek(out) and klessia(called). So church means those who will be called out or gathered by a great one ( the builder) at a certain time (endtime) to do a certain work before the end (isaiah 11:11-12). Their will be no need to preach that message (rev 14:6,18:1-8, matt 24:14) if you all know the truth
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 9:59pm On Feb 20, 2023
delkuf:
I don't need any prove. I believe it. It is not a story, it is what I have felt. Now I know how wicked and evil jw is. I use to give audience to them before. So this is the end product of jw. To brain wash you into believing that the Lord Jesus Christ is angel Michael.



P.S, please don't reply me again
So,who brainwashed your Trinitarian mentors to believe that Jesus archangel Michael?

PROVEN by your Trinitarian mentors (in the screenshots) @ Genesis 16:7, who is the angel of Jehovah?

Who is the Serpent at Genesis 3:15?
Who defeated the same serpent at Revelation 12:7-9 & 1 John 3:8?

@ 1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, according to your Bible,whose voice raises the dead?

Shut your eyes, heart and brain against the scriptures referenced here, that's your cup of tea.

Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 10:05pm On Feb 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Now your madness shows forth. You and your group are a different type of Satanists just like Catholics.
Nah madness dey cause person dey delude himself to make your spurious claim.

Taaaaa !!!!
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 10:10pm On Feb 20, 2023
bobestman:
If you want to be totally free from religious madness then quit all churches and religion. Their foolishness here is enough proof. God almighty or his son created no religion but a way anyone who discover it can practice wherever he is without denomination. For the true sheep are those who hear and recieve direction from their maker not those who are spiritually blind and deaf but claim to belong cos they do works they see in books that no one spiritually send them to do. The true church is within you for your body is the true temple of the true God. The true temple is not a physical building. Wrong translation of the word church will tell you it is a building but true one will tell you it is those called out. Ek(out) and klessia(called). So church means those who will be called out or gathered by a great one ( the builder) at a certain time (endtime) to do a certain work before the end (isaiah 11:11-12). Their will be no need to preach that message (rev 14:6,18:1-8, matt 24:14) if you all know the truth
James 1:26-27
27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.…"


Oga, are you learning something in James 1:26-27?
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 10:13pm On Feb 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
The devils too are one body in group, preaching, teaching and practicing the same things of evil as shown by jws
Nah your fellow 3 deities worshipper opened this thread and you agreed with their posts.

Pls,Leave JWs out of your delusion. grin

Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43pm On Feb 20, 2023
Janosky:
Nah your fellow 3 deities worshipper opened this thread and you agreed with their posts.
Pls,Leave JWs out of your delusion. grin
He has committed suicide so i don't have to worry over whatever comes from him again.

Imagine someone BLASPHEMING the Holy Spirit publicly saying Jesus' work is in vain yet claiming he belongs to Jesus! embarassed

How can someone say he believes in Jesus who promised that his disciples will continue preaching zealously, industriously teaching and making disciples {Matthew 28:18-20} due to the support of God's Holy Spirit {Act 1:8} open his mouth to say there is no group of persons practicing what Jesus laid down just because he doesn't want to humble himself before Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 12:31-32
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker:
Janosky:
Nah your fellow 3 deities worshipper opened this thread and you agreed with their posts.

Pls,Leave JWs out of your delusion. grin
Says the deluded jw.
The post is about groups who do and teach the wrong and bad thing and your jw is undisputably among them as your JW brother even visibly proved. So you don't have any valid reason to complain.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 8:05am On Feb 21, 2023
Janosky:
Nah madness dey cause person dey delude himself to make your spurious claim.

Taaaaa !!!!
Says the deluded jw.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by bobestman(m): 11:05am On Feb 21, 2023
Janosky:
James 1:26-27
27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.…"


Oga, are you learning something in James 1:26-27?
This shows you don't understand what you quoted
How does caring for orphans and widows and keeping yourself unspoted from the world relate with mounting buildings every here and there? You could easily practice the pure religion when you have nothing to do with false religions of today than when you are under their mind control program. They control you with their dogtrines and make you argue and quarell with others. Brainwashed sheeples we call that doing works of God but in their mind they know they are wasting their time. They are not called, neither do they hear, they just act on the orders of their organisation like zombies. When una mumu go do
ndi eriri eri since 19 kpom kpom
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 8:18pm On Feb 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Says the deluded jw.
The post is about groups who do and teach the wrong and bad thing and your jw is undisputably among them as your JW brother even visibly proved. So you don't have any vakid reason to complain.
Oga, exercise your right to throw tantrums.
You have proof? bring am make we see am.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Janosky: 8:24pm On Feb 21, 2023
bobestman:
This shows you don't understand what you quoted
How does caring for orphans and widows and keeping yourself unspoted from the world relate with mounting buildings every here and there?
Oga, you are dishonest, TWISTING your narrative.


bobestman:

If you want to be totally free from religious madness then quit all churches and religion. Their foolishness here is enough proof. God almighty or his son created no religion"


This is your first post ,I replied with James 1:27.
@ James 1:27, did man create the religion acceptable to God?
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by bobestman(m): 10:00pm On Feb 21, 2023
Janosky:
Oga, you are dishonest, TWISTING your narrative.


bobestman:

If you want to be totally free from religious madness then quit all churches and religion. Their foolishness here is enough proof. God almighty or his son created no religion"


This is your first post ,I replied with James 1:27.
@ James 1:27, did man create the religion acceptable to God?
You still lack understanding. That verse is for many igorant christians who think eternal life is by their denominations and works. The verse made it clear that it is by avoiding wordliness, doing good works, being righteous etc you can do all these youself without belonging to any organisations of brainwashing and confusion. This was how the hebrew way that they turned to religion was patterned. The verse didn't say anything about your huge denominations all over the world. The true temple is within. It is spiritual!
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by Dtruthspeaker: 6:21pm On Feb 22, 2023
Janosky:
Oga, exercise your right to throw tantrums.
You have proof? bring am make we see am

Mr Perfect, your fellow christendom 3 deities worshippers you condemn, JWs too you accused.

What should one expect from Mr Perfect and Nairaland IBERIBEIST?

FALSE claims & deception...
Says the one throwing tantrums and trying to make a reargument after seeing that you have no valid defence.
Re: Why I Avoid This 3 Churches by sharpgospel: 10:28pm On Mar 04, 2023
Lostchild:
If you want I can email to you the write up
Post here so it can bless others.

The CHILD OF GOD cannot be possessed by devils though he can be influenced externally.

Note that as long as the presence of God was still in Eve, all that the Serpent could do was to externally commune with her as a way of influencing her. James said the believer should resist the devil and he shall flee 'FROM' him. This tells us that the devil is not 'IN' the believer but 'WITH' him(around him) in the world. (James 4:7)

Also consider these points:

1. The believer is God's eternal temple(2Corinthians 6:16)

2. Jesus said that who he gives eternal life(Holy Spirit) cannot be snatched from Him because God is greater than the devil.(John 10:28-29, 1John 4:4)

3. Bear in mind that no one is a Christian without being indwelt by the Spirit(Romans 8:9)

4. You can't steal the home of a strong man except you are strong enough to bind him first(Matthew 12:29). The devil can't because God is stronger than all.(John 10:28-29)

5. Possession is possible only if one gets exorcised of demons but left empty without getting filled with God.(Matthew 12:43-45). Emphasis is on 'empty' here.


A CHRISTIAN CANNOT BE POSSESSED BY DEVILS BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY POSSESSED OF GOD WHO IS STRONGER THAN THE DEVIL
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