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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:42am On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Chief I didn't say he mentioned Osimhen na! I think we can draw parallels for Osimhen with the point Henry was making about Benzema and Kane how they get involved in attacking plays to assist their fellow forwards unlike Haaland who mostly stays central waiting for crosses or long balls.

Haaland of Dortmund is different from Haaland of Man city,having player like Haaland you need him most in the central or around the box,he is purely playing to Guardiola instructions and Osimehn in man city will do the same based on the strength of man city players....Haaland and Osimehn are real traditional number nine that don’t need much of additional responsibilities to excel.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:47am On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Chief I didn't say he mentioned Osimhen na! I think we can draw parallels for Osimhen with the point Henry was making about Benzema and Kane how they get involved in attacking plays to assist their fellow forwards unlike Haaland who mostly stays central waiting for crosses or long balls.


OkaY, in that case, you're actually right

That's why I've said before that osimhen is a better all round striker than haaland

Haaland is just a better finisher
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:21pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


It seems VO actually did listen to my advice but as it has come true , you are right to call it a prophecy, in this regard.

My words leave Wolfsburg, RE- INVENT himself develop, learn, appreciate, improve, then Step up .

With regards to KC don't think I ever really gave any


Which kind of reinvent himself? A player you believed won't make it in an academy. Osimhen did not reinvent anything. He is literally playing with the same pattern, position and style in the U17.

So that one is not true.

At what stage did he reinvent himself? Is it Charleroi or Lille he invented himself?

All Osimhen needed was playing time. As soon as he got, he delivered. Not your advise or reinventing himself.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:27pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:

Nwakali with one goal and one assist all season is now the solution we have been looking for. He plays one million long balls into the box for his club and yet the goal return is 0.86 per game. Make una continue.

I will prefer you proffer a solution than just attack the idea. The point is about improving our midfield play and creating more opportunities forwards. It is not a direct system. Meaning, it is not for creating direct assists and goals. It is for getting the ball to players to create these assists and goals. Then sometimes, create the assists and goals.

Sunday Oliseh in his whole career for the Super Eagles scored two goals. Are you saying he was not critical of our success?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:28pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:



That's why Nwakali is in dead league, dead club facing relegation 😟 and almost bankrupt, and earning peanuts 🥜

Can you wake up from this nonsensical Delusion.

So give us players in alive clubs, that are topping alive leagues and without delusion that can deliver long balls with better accuracy than Kelechi Nwakali.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:30pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

Sure but no coach goes out and makes that a criteria for picking a player neither do the fans


Please, coaches consider attributes before picking players and yes, there are many coaches that will pick a player that has good offensive throw-in ability as a criteria for selection.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


Pinging the ball with pin point accuracy is a skill set l find the top level players at U13 in most EPL Academies can do as a routine.

Long ball passing ( police game) is the bread and butter of the lower leagues , kick and rush. It's not considered anything special but the contrary because anybody can do it.

It's much more DIFFICULT and COMPLICATED to play through a team with a series of short passes, give and takes, 1-2's, through balls, deceptive movement and passes, dead ball accuracy for set pieces, etc .

Hoofing a ball up the pitch is a reflection of limited ability and skill not exceptional performance or intuition. It's escapism, essentially, " When in doubt kick it out"

The Spanish quality skill set in Midfield is seen quite clearly in La Liga top level clubs.

Not in the poor Segunda division, Villarreal B team played Wolves U21 and struggled to beat them 2-1. A team that Liverpool U21 flogged 5-0.

I've said this repeatedly that no EPL U21 Academy dide can beat a league one team. Talk less of a Championship side. That has been established beyond all doubt 🧐

That should give you an idea of how poor the Segunda division is as a league. I will concede that the first 5/6 teams are decent but not oustanding.

Even La Liga has huge gaps in Quality between the top end and low end teams. This is not the same in the EPL, Where bottom team can beat the top team I recall Southampton was able to beat Manchester city.

If I look at the top level of the Segundo division don't think they would find it easy against the top level of English league one.

Nwakali remain in the Segunda division because he is a poor player, not because he is exceptional. It's that simple.

You asked me to name 📛 players, I don't need to players play in better League and clubs because they are better it's that SIMPLE. In addition there are too many players to name, who are better than him.

All the players that I've stopped talking about because I feel they are not good enough for the SE are by comparison much better than him.


You called Osimhen a poor player and see what he is now.

You said Iheanacho scored Gilingham because they are in a poor team and he went on to score against Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur.

If Pinging is so easy, why are you finding it difficult for years to pick a Nigerian player with a better pinging ability that the komekn-called poor player Kelechi Nwakali?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:37pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


Every player from the EPL to the National League,it's that basic a skill.

Give us players' names with better accuracy than Kelechi Nwakali. Even close.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 12:47pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:
U-20.
So this man is either 16, 17,18 or 19


Naijaaaaaa
Go to the comment section and read the comments https://twitter.com/SSE_NGA/status/1628493159540961282?t=0zWIwfI3LLBCLlqwY1g0dg&s=19
he is a kid bro, don't let his look fool you

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:07pm On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Watched this interesting clip about Haaland's general playing style. I think this gives more insight around the Osimhen is a better all round forward debate. Please pay special attention to the Henry part of the analysis

https://twitter.com/TtfFutbol/status/1628627236889964546?s=20

cc Andrew44, Charlesemeka, Goodjoe, Supernerd, Blueelf, Komekn, Kog45, Mujtahida, Danielnino00

Very very fantastic post. Takes us back to my earlier analysis of how Osimhen could improve and become a more lethal striker. Osimhen improved on it and we are seeing


You can read about it again from here.
https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-road-afcon/12735#110613552
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:14pm On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Watched this interesting clip about Haaland's general playing style. I think this gives more insight around the Osimhen is a better all round forward debate. Please pay special attention to the Henry part of the analysis

https://twitter.com/TtfFutbol/status/1628627236889964546?s=20

cc Andrew44, Charlesemeka, Goodjoe, Supernerd, Blueelf, Komekn, Kog45, Mujtahida, Danielnino00

Now, to the general question Jamie Carragher posed. Can Manchester City improve to get the best of Haaland, and can Haaland improve to get the best of Manchester City? I think the answer is yes both ways.

Manchester City improving to get more from Haaland:

I have said this for too long. To the point I told my elder brother it seems the Manchester City players are jealous of Haaland. (personal opinion)

Manchester City needs to change their playing pattern to spamming passes to Haaland. He is a superhuman and will convert loads of chances if they can just spam the balls to him. With more touches of the ball by Haaland, the more goals he will score. It is simply logical.

Haaland improving to get more from his Manchester City teammates:

In this case, Haaland needs to cut out on being stationary in the attack. He needs to move toward his teammates during build-up plays. This will give him more touches, and creates harmony in play with his teammates. Also, this will distract defenders keeping tabs on him and give him more channels for his teammates to pass to.

Finally,
This culminates in Haaland still getting more chances to score and have him performing better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by orriyomi33(m): 1:21pm On Feb 23, 2023
Reporter : Who is your idol?
Abraham : The mask 🎭 man

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:45pm On Feb 23, 2023
orriyomi33:
Reporter : Who is your idol?
Abraham : The mask 🎭 man

this table you're shaking

grin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jieta: 2:27pm On Feb 23, 2023
Blueelf:


this table you're shaking

grin grin grin grin
don't mind him, he's trying to compare a world class Player to a player who can't even make a championship academy teamgrin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:01pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


It seems VO actually did listen to my advice but as it has come true , you are right to call it a prophecy, in this regard.

My words leave Wolfsburg, RE- INVENT himself develop, learn, appreciate, improve, then Step up .

With regards to KC don't think I ever really gave any
Don't u think that Nwakali is trying to heed ur advice by playing in la liga 2,just as u wanted Osimhen to move to bundesliga 2.
Have u not really gave it a thought that he is actually trying to re-invent himself in lower league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:58pm On Feb 23, 2023
Can't believe that some mistake a pinpoint long ball to police ball.
That is such an easy thing to do.

I believe that every professional player can hit a long ball,but there are few who can hit it with precision to an intended target in a competitive match.

I remember when Oruma was called to replace Okocha,instead of playing his own game,he tried to imitate Okocha's game with long balls,but he failed so miserably until he revised back to his style.
I believe long balls specialist gives u an advantage over ur opponents but is not what we must do without,or what we must cringe on to, because there r few who can do it accurately.

I love when Mikel bust into d scene with accurate long balls,
I remember a game against North Korea at d world youth championship 2005,that he gave assist with a precise long ball pass from our own half.

Nwakali is trying with long balls but he is not in d class of Mikel,Oliseh and Okocha.
May be he can still get there, right now he is d only player close with accurate long ball pass,but he need to improve in other areas of his game and move to top tier league.

My advice is to leave Nwakali alone in this thread,to stop discussing about him all the time, because of some people who is allergic to Nwakali's name.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:01pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:



That's why Nwakali is in dead league, dead club facing relegation 😟 and almost bankrupt, and earning peanuts 🥜

Can you wake up from this nonsensical Delusion.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:02pm On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Watched this interesting clip about Haaland's general playing style. I think this gives more insight around the Osimhen is a better all round forward debate. Please pay special attention to the Henry part of the analysis

https://twitter.com/TtfFutbol/status/1628627236889964546?s=20

cc Andrew44, Charlesemeka, Goodjoe, Supernerd, Blueelf, Komekn, Kog45, Mujtahida, Danielnino00
I said same about a week ago here

Osimhen is a better all round player than Haaland
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:12pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I will prefer you proffer a solution than just attack the idea. The point is about improving our midfield play and creating more opportunities forwards. It is not a direct system. Meaning, it is not for creating direct assists and goals. It is for getting the ball to players to create these assists and goals. Then sometimes, create the assists and goals.

Sunday Oliseh in his whole career for the Super Eagles scored two goals. Are you saying he was not critical of our success?


My job as a fan is not to proffer a solution. That is the Job of the coach. All this talk of Long balls by Nwakali is it really going to improve our play? How many goals/ goal scoring opportunities due to long balls have our main strikers taken advantage of this season?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:20pm On Feb 23, 2023
Its funny how people are jumping on Osimhen is a better all round player than Haaland

Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 4:21pm On Feb 23, 2023
maidaboi:
Its funny how people are jumping on Osimhen is a better all round player than Haaland

Lol
What makes it funny?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:22pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:

Nwakali with one goal and one assist all season is now the solution we have been looking for. He plays one million long balls into the box for his club and yet the goal return is 0.86 per game. Make una continue.
you mean nwakali has only 1 assist this season so far?🥺😳

Na lie I no believe this one 😳

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:22pm On Feb 23, 2023
Samueltemi337:
What makes it funny?
Not too long ago people stoned those who said it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:25pm On Feb 23, 2023
Napoleon55:

Don't u think that Nwakali is trying to heed ur advice by playing in la liga 2,just as u wanted Osimhen to move to bundesliga 2.
Have u not really gave it a thought that he is actually trying to re-invent himself in lower league.
not at all

Nwakali is where is talent can only take him to which is laliga 2 🤣

Next!!!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:27pm On Feb 23, 2023
Napoleon55:
Can't believe that some mistake a pinpoint long ball to police ball.
That is such an easy thing to do.

I believe that every professional player can hit a long ball,but there are few who can hit it with precision to an intended target in a competitive match.

I remember when Oruma was called to replace Okocha,instead of playing his own game,he tried to imitate Okocha's game with long balls,but he failed so miserably until he revised back to his style.
I believe long balls specialist gives u an advantage over ur opponents but is not what we must do without,or what we must cringe on to, because there r few who can do it accurately.

I love when Mikel bust into d scene with accurate long balls,
I remember a game against North Korea at d world youth championship 2005,that he gave assist with a precise long ball pass from our own half.

Nwakali is trying with long balls but he is not in d class of Mikel,Oliseh and Okocha.
May be he can still get there, right now he is d only player close with accurate long ball pass,but he need to improve in other areas of his game and move to top tier league.

My advice is to leave Nwakali alone in this thread,to stop discussing about him all the time, because of some people who is allergic to Nwakali's name.
pple like me 🥱
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:30pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:
My job as a fan is not to proffer a solution. That is the Job of the coach. All this talk of Long balls by Nwakali is it really going to improve our play? How many goals/ goal scoring opportunities due to long balls have our main strikers taken advantage of this season?
ask him how many nwakali’s long balls this season I resulted to a goal for his club as well as recorded as an assist to he’s name

Abi the long ball na side ways own? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:37pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Please, coaches consider attributes before picking players and yes, there are many coaches that will pick a player that has good offensive throw-in ability as a criteria for selection.
Mention one coach who has chosen a player because of throw in prowess
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:40pm On Feb 23, 2023
charlesemeka85:
not at all
Nwakali is where is talent can only take him to which is laliga 2 🤣
Next!!!!!!
Bad Belle LOL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:42pm On Feb 23, 2023
Odunayaw:
Not too long ago people stoned those who said it
On point
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 4:44pm On Feb 23, 2023
charlesemeka85:
I said same about a week ago here

Osimhen is a better all round player than Haaland

Truther than truth

We haver laid the Osimhen and Tammy Abraham "Who is better" debate to rest since

Innit?

grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 4:46pm On Feb 23, 2023
charlesemeka85:
not at all

Nwakali is where is talent can only take him to which is laliga 2 🤣

Next!!!!!!

See, leave these Nwakali fanboys alone

You know he is their anointed "Next Jay Jay" grin grin

Nothing you say will convince them otherwise

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:56pm On Feb 23, 2023
Kog45:
I just tired for this age matter.I think time to respect our players age...We have important roles to play regarding age cheats.I remember forgiveness narrative on how he took his boy to trial of beyond limits academy.We just have to build our talented kids at very early stage and no matter what they will match up with their foreign counterparts........I have two sons that started playing the game very early and I can tell you they are damn good.My first son trial was massive,under 20 mins the coach came to me and said “you meant this boy has not been playing the game outside his neighborhood and I said yes” my second son trial went the same way.My boys were introduced to the game very early,watching live football games every weekends and it shows in their game.They play like real men and they are just 14 and 12 years of age....I think time to say NO TO AGE CHEAT IN SPORTS and anyone here can champion the cause with support from reputable organizations for funding...age cheat affect our football in the long run.We can do it like Europeans,nothing special except nutrition cos my 14 years old boy can play with U17 conveniently cos he has the height
Baba, it's not a matter of respect. Please go to the comment section on Twitter and read the comments. Haba, no be Nigerians we be?

Post Osimhen as U - 17 and I dare not say pim but there are players you see and your SUSPICION is aroused. I never said he's not less than 20 but I strongly doubt that he is.

This has nothing to do with respect.

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