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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:03pm On Feb 23, 2023
Starboytwo:
abeg stop biko, and how is that guy not under 20 Is there a sign on his head that says other wise or something.

I was playing fifa with one guy yesterday, I was just calling him boss boss, later I got to know he was my junior brothers class mates, I was shocked. He damn huge.

I mean, what is your gain by accusing him of age cheats. Was Rooney an age cheat with his bald head at 22 or robben??
Abeg drop Robben or Rooney. They can look like 50 years and that counts for nothing because:
1. There is no culture of age cheating in both countries. Both countries started playing football over a hundred years ago. I challenge you to mention two instances of age cheating in age grade competitions in both countries. I no dey for this sanctimonious preachments.

2. As a corollary to the first or rather the predictive factor for the first, both countries capture data at birth. So no room for age cheating. Even if you want to do it, you can't do it. The system will weed you out.

Is that the same with Nigeria? Don't we know in the general sense what a 17 or 18 year old in Nigeria looks like? Did you see Iheanacho and Victor Osimhen's set of U - 17? Compare them with the Chrisantus or 2009 u-20 set. Can't you see that Osimhen and Iheanacho set are within the age bracket?

I looked at this Agbalaka and I strongly suspect he's not less than 20. If you have evidence that my suspicion is unfounded, bring it. If not, leave me with my doubt.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:20pm On Feb 23, 2023
Napoleon55:
Can't believe that some mistake a pinpoint long ball to police ball.
That is such an easy thing to do.

I believe that every professional player can hit a long ball,but there are few who can hit it with precision to an intended target in a competitive match.

I remember when Oruma was called to replace Okocha,instead of playing his own game,he tried to imitate Okocha's game with long balls,but he failed so miserably until he revised back to his style.
I believe long balls specialist gives u an advantage over ur opponents but is not what we must do without,or what we must cringe on to, because there r few who can do it accurately.

I love when Mikel bust into d scene with accurate long balls,
I remember a game against North Korea at d world youth championship 2005,that he gave assist with a precise long ball pass from our own half.

Nwakali is trying with long balls but he is not in d class of Mikel,Oliseh and Okocha.
May be he can still get there, right now he is d only player close with accurate long ball pass
,but he need to improve in other areas of his game and move to top tier league.

My advice is to leave Nwakali alone in this thread,to stop discussing about him all the time, because of some people who is allergic to Nwakali's name.
The bolded is a reasonable and fair assessment devoid of the hype that irks a lot of people. I cannot contest what you just said

There are long ball specialists - Beckham, Pirlo, our own Oliseh and from my memory I can reel out goals we scored from long balls

We need good crossers of the ball on the wings, we need ball playing defenders and midfielders. But.... Make I end am here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:23pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

Mention one coach who has chosen a player because of throw in prowess

Na wa for you.

Rory Delap was key to Stoke City in the pass because of his insane throw-in ability.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:25pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:
My job as a fan is not to proffer a solution. That is the Job of the coach. All this talk of Long balls by Nwakali is it really going to improve our play? How many goals/ goal scoring opportunities due to long balls have our main strikers taken advantage of this season?


Na wa for you. So, stop arguing when people are trying to proffer solutions if all you have to do is watch.

By the way, we lack accurate long ball deliveries in our team. We are proposing Kelechi Nwakali will help offer that. So, how do you want our main forwards to explore long balls when we lack midfielders that deliver it accurately? Your question is totally off tangent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:27pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

The bolded is a reasonable and fair assessment devoid of the hype that irks a lot of people. I cannot contest what you just said

There are long ball specialists - Beckham, Pirlo, our own Oliseh and from my memory I can reel out goals we scored from long balls

We need good crossers of the ball on the wings, we need ball playing defenders and midfielders. But.... Make I end am here

You are yet to show us where Kelechi Nwakali was hyped. You people keep using that term with no place of anyone hyping Kelechi Nwakali.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:29pm On Feb 23, 2023
Remembering the passing talent of Kelechi Nwakali.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLwPHVXiQX0

More grease to your passes young super star. You can still make it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 5:31pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

Abeg drop Robben or Rooney. They can look like 50 years and that counts for nothing because:
1. There is no culture of age cheating in both countries. Both countries started playing football over a hundred years ago. I challenge you to mention two instances of age cheating in age grade competitions in both countries. I no dey for this sanctimonious preachments.

2. As a corollary to the first or rather the predictive factor for the first, both countries capture data at birth. So no room for age cheating. Even if you want to do it, you can't do it. The system will weed you out.

Is that the same with Nigeria? Don't we know in the general sense what a 17 or 18 year old in Nigeria looks like? Did you see Iheanacho and Victor Osimhen's set of U - 17? Compare them with the Chrisantus or 2009 u-20 set. Can't you see that Osimhen and Iheanacho set are within the age bracket?

I looked at this Agbalaka and I strongly suspect he's not less than 20. If you have evidence that my suspicion is unfounded, bring it. If not, leave me with my doubt.

people like Kome are always quick to remind us that Osimhen Iheanacho could have lied about their ages, no need for long talk people will always doubt the age of any Nigerian player which is very sad

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 5:34pm On Feb 23, 2023
If Napoli finally win this league the type of love Osimhen will receive will be very crazy https://twitter.com/africafactszone/status/1628740190293442561?s=46&t=zODJmuq3mSPdxS7haUyizw

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:36pm On Feb 23, 2023
jihday:
people like Kome are always quick to remind us that Osimhen Iheanacho could have lied about their ages, no need for long talk people will always doubt the age of any Nigerian player which is very sad
I strongly believe those sets were within the age. Even the Kanu and Celestine Babanyaro set
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:39pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Na wa for you.

Rory Delap was key to Stoke City in the pass because of his insane throw-in ability.
And he was bought because of that?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:48pm On Feb 23, 2023
chrisooblog:
Watched this interesting clip about Haaland's general playing style. I think this gives more insight around the Osimhen is a better all round forward debate. Please pay special attention to the Henry part of the analysis

https://twitter.com/TtfFutbol/status/1628627236889964546?s=20

cc Andrew44, Charlesemeka, Goodjoe, Supernerd, Blueelf, Komekn, Kog45, Mujtahida, Danielnino00

Man City have gotten too used to playing without an out and out striker, so they have to change their pattern to suit Haaland... He is a terrific goalscorer no doubt..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:52pm On Feb 23, 2023
Apparently,our bredas have decided to postpone the African games billed to hold this year to 2024..

I dunno why I find it funny grin grin
Nigeria with all it's problem has never shy away from hosting any international tournament it was billed to host.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:54pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

I strongly believe those sets were within the age. Even the Kanu and Celestine Babanyaro set

And yet, we have people here who constantly challenge the reliability of the MRI test and by extension, challenging the ages of players like Iheanacho, Osimhen, Awoniyi, Nwakali, Chukwueze,Uzoho, Success,etc who are a product of the MRI era

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:55pm On Feb 23, 2023
Mujtahida:

And he was bought because of that?


Rory Delap throw-in was an asset. His throw-in was primary to their tactics then.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbnUl196BQ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:37pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Na wa for you. So, stop arguing when people are trying to proffer solutions if all you have to do is watch.

By the way, we lack accurate long ball deliveries in our team. We are proposing Kelechi Nwakali will help offer that. So, how do you want our main forwards to explore long balls when we lack midfielders that deliver it accurately? Your question is totally off tangent.
My brother I ask again… na only long balls we need? How many goals has Osimhen, Moffi and co scored from this season?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:39pm On Feb 23, 2023
charlesemeka85:
you mean nwakali has only 1 assist this season so far?πŸ₯ΊπŸ˜³

Na lie I no believe this one 😳
Confirm for yourself bro. The way them dey hype am like say na him the best assist for segunda liga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:
My brother I ask again… na only long balls we need? How many goals has Osimhen, Moffi and co scored from this season?

The point is simple. How do we (Super Eagles) improve our midfield play. A suggestion is to improve on our long balls. So, let us select some of the good long passers to be part of the team. Sometimes switch tactics by employing some long balls.

So, the question you are asking above is irrelevant to the line of discussion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:46pm On Feb 23, 2023
Truidstar:
My brother I ask again… na only long balls we need? How many goals has Osimhen, Moffi and co scored from this season?

If you have other suggestions, please propose them. We are willing to learn from them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:07pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


You actually want to compare Mason Mount to NWAKALI, is this not a form of deep seated self Delusion.

Mason Mount is a Chelsea player and England international , wanted by top clubs across Europe and you are comparing him to Nwakali.

Your pick out one pass not a clip one pass he refused to do for Jao Felix and therefore Nwakali is better.πŸ€”πŸ€”

Good teams and players don't always use long ball but have other quality options.

See a proper clip of Mount doing a long 30 yard passrs with both feet left and right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfpzOwrMwA

Only thing Mason Mount has over Nwakali is that he plays in a top team and that's thanks to Lampard giving him the opportunity and playing time... Fikayo Tomori , Aina, Mo Salah, Kevin De Bruyne, van ginkel. Tariq Lamptey e.t.c weren't given playing time

Nobody wanted Jude Bellingham until after Dortmund bought him and he was giving the opportunity and playing time in Dortmund.. Only Man. United made a bid that was rejected and you and I both know that Man. United won't give a 16 year old midfielder regular game time.. he would have been in their youth team.

Nwakali playing in division 2 is due to his agents, the fact he his Nigerian and maybe he likes Spain..

African players from Fr:ance colonized African countries are given opportunities and playing time in France.. even some Nigerian players are giving playing time in F:rance..

so I need to add F:rance to the list of countries including Belgium and Denmark that are good for Nigerian midfielders and players..

the point is Nwakali can make passes either short or long to the wingers or strikers to create chances for the strikers to score or pass to wingers who would assist...

starting Nwakali, Iwobi and a holding midfielder is a blessing for the S.E midfield

or

starting Nwakali, Iwobi, Onyeka and Onyedika or Bonke is a blessing for the S.E midfield.

S.E currently plays with 4 attackers ( 2 wingers, 1 striker, 1 other player behind the striker ) and with Iwobi and a holding midfielder been the only 2 midfielders in the starting 11.. the attackers don't drop deep to help the midfield and defense. which makes the defense porous..

the problem with S.E is the defensive formation when the opposition has the ball and not inviting at least 4 - 5 midfielders.

when the opposition has the ball the forward players don't drop deep immediately and get into a defensive formation..

the U20 flying eagles also have this problem.. If not for the GoalKeeper and poor finishing from the Egyptians.. Egypt would have scored at least 3 goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 7:10pm On Feb 23, 2023
Napoleon55:

Don't u think that Nwakali is trying to heed ur advice by playing in la liga 2,just as u wanted Osimhen to move to bundesliga 2.
Have u not really gave it a thought that he is actually trying to re-invent himself in lower league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2023
Napoleon55:

Don't u think that Nwakali is trying to heed ur advice by playing in la liga 2,just as u wanted Osimhen to move to bundesliga 2.
Have u not really gave it a thought that he is actually trying to re-invent himself in lower league.

No he is not .

He has been in CONSISTENT retrogression , finally findings himself after 8 years of mediocrity in the bottom of the very poor quality Segundo division in a near bankrupt club getting paid peanuts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:18pm On Feb 23, 2023
charlesemeka85:
not at all

Nwakali is where is talent can only take him to which is laliga 2 🀣

Next!!!!!!

The simple NAKED UNDILUTED TRUTH
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by orriyomi33(m): 7:24pm On Feb 23, 2023
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this table you're shaking

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:29pm On Feb 23, 2023
jihday:
people like Kome are always quick to remind us that Osimhen Iheanacho could have lied about their ages, no need for long talk people will always doubt the age of any Nigerian player which is very sad

Why are you being hypocritical.

Age cheating is an ingrained endemic and institutionalised culture in Nigeria.

In country where truth and integrity are not considered attributes worthy of commendation.

We do not have any institutional independent government controlled system for automatic birth data capture.

You therefore have to rely on the integrity and honesty of individuals when there such attributes are not commended in society in general.

This is why we have a convicted geriatric drug Lord claiming to be 70 but looking frail and 85. And many giving him unquestionable support.

Age cheating cute across every sector on Nigeria.

Age cheating in football ⚽ is part of the business model and structure of football in Nigeria. They are never separate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:37pm On Feb 23, 2023
Danielnino00:


And yet, we have people here who constantly challenge the reliability of the MRI test and by extension, challenging the ages of players like Iheanacho, Osimhen, Awoniyi, Nwakali, Chukwueze,Uzoho, Success,etc who are a product of the MRI era
Lie lie, you will never see me contest those guys age. I have no reason to doubt those guys
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:39pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Rory Delap throw-in was an asset. His throw-in was primary to their tactics then.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbnUl196BQ
Was he bought for reason of that quality alone? Anyway your point is made.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:42pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Na wa for you.

Rory Delap was key to Stoke City in the pass because of his insane throw-in ability.
On the home front, we have Daniel Itodo too.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 7:46pm On Feb 23, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


The point is simple. How do we (Super Eagles) improve our midfield play. A suggestion is to improve on our long balls. So, let us select some of the good long passers to be part of the team. Sometimes switch tactics by employing some long balls.

So, the question you are asking above is irrelevant to the line of discussion.

You they talk some kind words sha

So people when play and reach World Cup na long balls them use

Wonders sha never end πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

Long balls really long balls πŸ˜‚

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:15pm On Feb 23, 2023
typicalgamer:


You they talk some kind words sha

So people when play and reach World Cup na long balls them use

Wonders sha never end πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

Long balls really long balls πŸ˜‚


Like seriously. What you are typing here has no relation to the topic of discussion.

The topic of discussion is how we can improve or midfield play.

The suggestion is to add long balls to our tactical repertoire.

Now read what you posted, if it relates to the discussion.

By the way, enjoy Xabi Alonso's passing clips.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqeSdmAvPtU
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:16pm On Feb 23, 2023
mostob:
On the home front, we have Daniel Itodo too.

Thank you. I will try to keep tabs on him. I did not know about him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:33pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


Actually I knew he wouldn't make it at Wolfsburg.

Football succes is anchored on very small margins and decisions. There is a time to leave and a time to stay .

If Pogba had not left Manchester United to Juve as a youth player we would not be hearing about him now. I will the same for Jadon Sancho when he left Manchester city now he is on Β£350k a week .

If Jude Bellingham didn't leave Birmingham city he would not be the number one Midfielders on the transfer list's of the very best Clubs in Europe.

If VO didn't leave Wolfsburg at that time maybe we will not be hearing about him today, nobody can tell.


Pogba entered into Manchester United as a star player. If I remember right, he came from Le Havre with a lot of problems because of his quality.

He was brilliant and held a lot of promise. He would have become huge at Manchester United. The problem is that Ferguson wanted an extra season for Paul Scholes and Pogba did not want to wait.

But to say the most talented midfielder in Manchester United reserves would not have been known if he did not leave Manchester United is not true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:37pm On Feb 23, 2023
komekn:


Actually I knew he wouldn't make it at Wolfsburg.

Football succes is anchored on very small margins and decisions. There is a time to leave and a time to stay .

If Pogba had not left Manchester United to Juve as a youth player we would not be hearing about him now. I will the same for Jadon Sancho when he left Manchester city now he is on Β£350k a week .

If Jude Bellingham didn't leave Birmingham city he would not be the number one Midfielders on the transfer list's of the very best Clubs in Europe.

If VO didn't leave Wolfsburg at that time maybe we will not be hearing about him today, nobody can tell.


Osimhen would still blow but Wolfsburg did not want to give him a chance. He was always a super talent. Sooner, he would get his chance somewhere and excel.

As for Sancho, he already had big promise in City. He just was not ready to compete with Sane. Foden did not leave and stayed at City. How come we are hearing of him now.

Na wa.

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