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MaxInDHouse:
I have told you what i know so next time you come across my comment i'm defending just one group Jehovah's Witnesses organization and their book (Bible)

Thanks for your time!

issokay. May God help us all.

Tonytonex:
issokay. May God help us all.

Thanks for your time do enjoy the rest of the day and may you have PEACE!

Janosky:
Templee333 truth: "The Bible is not fit for our era"

This is the GIBBERISH Templee333 calls "truth", JWs are proud to be "enemies" of your GIBBERISH.

Atheist Pastorpreneur

you can quote me anywhere, i stand on my word. but you jw are a disgrace to the bible u defend because u dont practice what is written,neither do u believe it.

MightySparrow:
See liar doctoring post.

The Bible is not fit our era a complete post?

JWs deal with minor things like dressing,shaving of hairs,hours of field service,etc. but they ignore weightier matters like helping the needy and being honest.

Janosky:
You saw the screenshots and you are throwing tantrums.

Be bold to confess your love for Atheism rather than pretend you follow Pastorpreneurs.

HYPOCRITE!

People who carry bibles around but never practise what's inside are the real hypocrites

Templee333:
JWs deal with minor things like dressing,shaving of hairs,hours of field service,etc. but they ignore weightier matters like helping the needy and being honest.

Why do you love deceiving yourself?

How many JWs are beggars in your street? Psalms 23:1; 37:25

MaxInDHouse:
You're not our kind {2Thessalonians 3:2} so we search, fish for our kind {Mark 1:17} to come and join us in the camp so we can all eat and drink from the same table! Revelations 22:17 compare to Matthew 24:45
So i know what i'm telling him!

yes i am not ur kind, i don't have the gut to tell lies like u guys, neither do i rape children and hire lawyers to go and lie for me in court. So u are right, i am not ur kind and will never be.

Templee333:
yes i am not ur kind, i don't have the gut to tell lies like u guys, neither do i rape children and hire lawyers to go and lie for me in court. So u are right, i am not ur kind and will never be.

False accusations here and there shey? Revelations 12:10

Thank you for admitting that you're not one of us so you're not in position to answer questions for us since you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses! 1John 2:18-19

At least honest hearted followers now know that you're not in position to answer for the group you're no longer associating with!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the post you quoted no be for you o!

my aim here is to honestly expose ur hidden agenda. when you present a false front to the public to trap the weak and vulnerable, i have to tell them b4 they fall victims

Templee333:
my aim here is to honestly expose ur hidden agenda. when you present a false front to the public to trap the weak and vulnerable, i have to tell them b4 they fall victims

Once again you're right because we aren't searching for WEAK and VULNERABLE but those whose faith in God is ROCK SOLID to associate with God's own people.

So thanks for keeping the weak ones away from us we are looking for soldiers in faith who will offer themselves willingly for the final showdown against Satan, demons and their human agents! Psalms 110:3

[quote author=Templee333 post=121257506]JWs deal with minor things like dressing,shaving of hairs,hours of field service,etc. but they ignore weightier matters like helping the needy and being honest.
I observe the bolded as a none member. MaximumSide'and Janosky would not provide any rebuttals but irrelevant scriptures.

MightySparrow:
I observe the bolded as a none member. MaximumSide'and Janosky would not provide any rebuttals but irrelevant scriptures.

Have you seen JWs begging in your streets?

Well you can never find one because we take care of all the NEEDY in our midst.
Note the English "NEEDY" this doesn't mean the greedy who makes excuses to beg for WANTS. So instead of having beggars in your streets who are JWs we have equipped our own people to be self-sufficient so that they're contented with whatever they have be it little or much but because other religions infused the love of riches in the minds of their members even the ones who don't have anything WANTS to flunt material things hence all of you are greedy so begging is peculiar in your midst that's why you people give beggars money but as for JWs whenever we see any beggar we are 100% certain that such one is not a worshiper of JEHOVAH! Psalms 23:1; 37:25

MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen JWs begging in your streets?

Well you can never find one because we take care of all the NEEDY in our midst.
Note the English "NEEDY" this doesn't mean the greedy who makes excuses to beg for WANTS. So instead of having beggars in your streets who are JWs we have equipped our own people to be self-sufficient so that they're contented with whatever they have be it little or much but because other religions infused the love of riches in the minds of their members even the ones who don't have anything WANTS to flunt material things hence all of you are greedy so begging is peculiar in your midst that's why you people give beggars money but as for JWs whenever we see any beggar we are 100% certain that such one is not a worshiper of JEHOVAH! Psalms 23:1; 37:25

Hahaha
Your member Temple333 is the one accusing you. I have never attended JWs meeting. I only have people who mismanage their marriages and still qoute scriptures. I said I observe dishonesty pointed out by your own member. Your member. Just type where he is telling lies. I believe, like others, that without rebuttals that he is telling the truth.


All your saintly claims are not what he pointed out as a member who has experience nor my own observation. It is not my fault.

The reason I said truth is truth can be gleaned from what happens (your own side) and what doesn't ( Temple 333's side)

Someone left America and instead of talking about the country he now resides he continue talking about America saying American government and the citizens are evil.
Ọmọ any one in his right senses won't need the story of evil past but concerned about the Good News of the better place he now resides?
Well i don't know for you o but as for me i don't think any wise person will be interested in the stories rather it's the better new of where our friend now lives presently that's better than America.

It's like you're the type who loves stories of how Nnamdi Azikiwe, Amadu Bello and Awolowo ruled Nigeria instead of thinking about the way forward!

MightySparrow:
Hahaha
Your member Temple333 is the one accusing you. I have never attended JWs meeting. I only have people who mismanage their marriages and still qoute scriptures. I said I observe dishonesty pointed out by your own member. Your member. Just type where he is telling lies. I believe, like others, that without rebuttals that he is telling the truth.
All your saintly claims are not what he pointed out as a member who has experience nor my own observation. It is not my fault.
The reason I said truth is truth can be gleaned from what happens (your own side) and what doesn't ( Temple 333's side)

MaxInDHouse:
Someone left America and instead of talking about the country he now resides he continue talking about America saying American government and the citizens are evil.
Ọmọ any one in his right senses won't need the story of evil past but concerned about the Good News of the better place he now resides?
Well i don't know for you o but as for me i don't think any wise person will be interested in the stories rather it's the better new of where our friend now lives presently that's better than America.

It's like you're the type who loves stories of how Nnamdi Azikiwe, Amadu Bello and Awolowo ruled Nigeria instead of thinking about the way forward!

Yet you have denied his claims. He is telling us why left. That is all interest now. Where he is or going, he will (if he likes) discuss.

What is your interest in that anyways? To compare and criticize? How will that change his experience? How will that convince anyone?
You will want us to know that the deficiency of his New personal truth is the reason for your organization not to retain him?



I like to learn from the past , from people and events. In all spheres of learning, the theories
and principles that rule the world in any fields are from the people of the past.

So, what is your point?

MightySparrow:
Yet you have denied his claims. He is telling us why left. That is all interest now. Where he is or going, he will (if he likes) discuss.

What is your interest in that anyways? To compare and criticize? How will that change his experience? How will that convince anyone?
You will want us to know that the deficiency of his New personal truth is the reason for your organization not to retain him?



I like to learn from the past , from people and events. In all spheres of learning, the theories
and principles that rule the world in any fields are from the people of the past.

So, what is your point?

What's the next step after discovering the evil in your former religion? Are you now an atheist?

MaxInDHouse:
What's the next step after discovering the evil in your former religion? Are you now an atheist?

Just providing a rebuttal. Temple333 is the telling us about your organization not me.
If he told lies just tell him you lied.


I told you I am a pentecostal. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. . Your organization call Catholic Babylon the Great. Pentecostal pastors, pastorpreneurs etc. I don't have problems with that.


You are entitled to your opinion. We don't cry and whine and feel persecuted. I don't feel any of those things.

Every criticism is welcome including lies. We take them in good faith.

I know there are many former pentecostals finding ' new light' in your organization. Let them boldly and tell their experiences.
There's nothing to hide.

We collect offerings, tithes pledges, build schools, orphanages, rehabilitation centers serve in the military participate in partisan politics and take political positions,.... We believe in Trinity, hell, heaven, fiery judgment etc our own community truth.


If you have anything against any or all of these. We are not bordered.


We are waiting for your GB to seat beside Jesus on the Day of judgement.

Still provide a rebuttal for Temple333's claim.

MightySparrow:
Just providing a rebuttal. Temple333 is the telling us about your organization not me.
If he told lies just tell him you lied. I told you I am a pentecostal. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. . Your organization call Catholic Babylon the Great. Pentecostal pastors, pastorpreneurs etc. I don't have problems with that. You are entitled to your opinion. We don't cry and whine and feel persecuted. I don't feel any of those things. Every criticism is welcome including lies. We take them in good faith. I know there are many former pentecostals finding ' new light' in your organization. Let them boldly and tell their experiences.
There's nothing to hide. We collect offerings, tithes pledges, build schools, orphanages, rehabilitation centers serve in the military participate in partisan politics and take political positions,.... We believe in Trinity, hell, heaven, fiery judgment etc our own community truth. If you have anything against any or all of these. We are not bordered. We are waiting for your GB to seat beside Jesus on the Day of judgement. Still provide a rebuttal for Temple333's claim.

I copy the highlighted so what is of concern to us is the new religion that's better than the one we are practicing presently.
The rest is STORY STORY STORY for the Gods!

MaxInDHouse:
I copy the highlighted so what is of concern to us is the new religion that's better than the one we are practicing presently.
The rest is STORY STORY STORY for the Gods!

Your community concern. What do is important to us is the truth told by Temple333.
The rest is noise


Hahahaha

MightySparrow:
Your community concern. What do is important to us is the truth told by Temple333.
The rest is noise
Hahahaha

So it simply means what's of interest to you is not what interests me that's why I keep telling all your friends:

Who are those noisemakers out there?
What is there religion?
Go and tell them that WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Who are those noisemakers out there?
What is their new found religion?
Let's here what they've got to say about it.
But go and tell them that the worshipers of the God who spoke in the Bible book of Isaiah 54:17 are here.
YES! We ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

jaephoenix:
Lol. You're such a self-important person.
If you read the history of Christianity you'll see the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Trials where millions were threatened so as to convert them to Christianity, some killed because they refused to convert. Do you think there would be growth of christianity and thus birth of your precious JW if Emperor Constantine didn’t slaughter the Moors and thus export christianity to the Anglo Saxons who eventually brought it to Nigeria? All that blood and tears was for expansion of Christianity. If he didn't do it, the Arabs would have taken over, and more people in the world population would be Muslims. And of course, you'll be a Muslim, banging your head and disturbing us here about Allah being the greatest.

MaxInDHouse:
You missed the point again!
I was born a Muslim but carefully listened to the JWs to understand what the truth is all about.
So i converted for truth not the majority!

jaephoenix:
Same thing a Christian who converted to Sunni Muslim would say.
Truth is, its the same ol' religion, different tag.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you say a Christian?
Well my friend i am telling you now that that's the greatest impossibility!
You'll never ever find a JW convert to another religion and speak positively of his new religion. The only thing you will see ex-jws doing is complaining about JW organization but to speak convincingly about any other religion? That's impossible!
Do you know why? Because there is no better performing religion than JWs the one and only true Christian group!

Please make a thorough research and give me your report, try to find a single former JW who is now converted to any other religion talking convincingly about his new found faith the same way i does here.

If you find one i'm promising you that i will leave the JWs for such a religion.

That prophecy found at Psalms 115:4-8 is about all false religions and Isaiah 54:17 belongs to just one religion:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

What faithless people failed to grasp is the fact that all humans have fallen short of the glory of God {Romans 3:23} so if we study each human around us we will always find one fault or another due to our sinful condition {Romans 7:15-25} that's why God sent His only begotten Son {John 3:16} to commission a movement of faithful people that will go and gather their kinds from all the nations {Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8} individuals coming together to form one BODY are imperfect just like everyone else so the only way this group will stand out is what results from their works {Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26} as a group! Ephesians 4:12

Therefore if anyone is complaining about the errors found among them that's normal after all it's a gathering of imperfect humans but what nobody can find elsewhere is a better performing group than the one where God's Holy Spirit is working in the midst of imperfect humans.
That's the greatest impossibility!
Because the works of the flesh in which each human dwells are recorded in the Bible book of Galatians 5:19-21: sexual immorality, uncleanness, brazen conduct, idolatry, spiritism, hostility, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, dissensions, divisions, sects, envy, drunkenness, wild parties! in each human these traits you will find (in parts) due to our imperfect/sinful nature! Romans 7:15-23

But due to the presence of God's Holy Spirit these same imperfect humans will form a body or group and instead of the works of the flesh to take over God's Holy Spirit will compel these imperfect humans and as a group they will yield the qualities that's not of imperfect human nature which is: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

This is why it's impossible for any critic to present a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES because God's Holy Spirit is not with any other group they will only exhibit part of the GIFTS of the spirit which could be found in false religions too but as for the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit only among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you will find it!

Jesus knew that fallen angels can work out the GIFTS of Holy Spirit in the midst of false religionists that's why signs like speaking in tongues, seeing visions, performing signs will be found in different religions like Hindu, Buddhist, Islam and African Traditional worship but as for the FRUIT of God's Holy spirit this is impossible for any demon to work out using imperfect humans so Jesus concluded saying:
"By their FRUITS (not gifts) you will know" Matthew 7:16

MaxInDHouse:
So it simply means what's of interest to you is not what interests me that's why I keep telling all your friends:

Who are those noisemakers out there?
What is there religion?
Go and tell them that WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

by Courz: 11:
Good question. They claim Jesus started ruling in 1914 because War started then and according to them, things got worse from that time. Unfortunately, that is totally false. Things didn't get worse from 1914 if you really do your research in history. Also, when you read the words of Jesus in different Bible verses, they expose 1914 to be wrong and has totally destroyed that doctrine. Even a typical JW cannot explain 1914. When I was a JW, I could never explain it. I have asked all of them in this forum to explain it and none of them could do it. What does that show? It shows it is a Lie. It is all made up.

The first time they preached 1914, it was supposed to be the end of the world not the ruling of Jesus. When the world didn't end, Their founder changed it to be the Invisible coming of Jesus.

Don't try to understand their doctrines. They make absolutely no sense. All their doctrines are figments of imaginations and delusions of their leaders. Their leaders do what we call Spirit Channelling. Google it. When you do, you will understand why their doctrines are strange, unbiblical and senseless and why they have many false prophecies. I personally think the Spirit beings they consult for all these doctrines are making a fool of them.[/quote]Note the bolded
This is another member of JWs o.
Is he persecuting you also?! In fact, he pointed your delusion.

Templee333:
for all I know, Jehovah's witnesses get their money from people's donations. These donations are made in different ways. Most times,their talks and publications aim at coaxing members to make huge donations.

So they talk about money also?
GBpreneurs!

MightySparrow:
by Courz: 11:
Good question. They claim Jesus started ruling in 1914 because War started then and according to them, things got worse from that time. Unfortunately, that is totally false. Things didn't get worse from 1914 if you really do your research in history. Also, when you read the words of Jesus in different Bible verses, they expose 1914 to be wrong and has totally destroyed that doctrine. Even a typical JW cannot explain 1914. When I was a JW, I could never explain it. I have asked all of them in this forum to explain it and none of them could do it. What does that show? It shows it is a Lie. It is all made up. The first time they preached 1914, it was supposed to be the end of the world not the ruling of Jesus. When the world didn't end, Their founder changed it to be the Invisible coming of Jesus. Don't try to understand their doctrines. They make absolutely no sense. All their doctrines are figments of imaginations and delusions of their leaders. Their leaders do what we call Spirit Channelling. Google it. When you do, you will understand why their doctrines are strange, unbiblical and senseless and why they have many false prophecies. I personally think the Spirit beings they consult for all these doctrines are making a fool of them.
Note the bolded
This is another member of JWs o.
Is he persecuting you also?! In fact, he pointed your delusion.

Ọmọ they're not JWs but EX-JWs.
So ask them to tell us their religion now at least your own nah pentecostal winner chapel Papa Oyedepo church!

MightySparrow:
So they talk about money also?
GBpreneurs!

NO money falls from the sky to print materials, Bibles and build Kingdom Halls!

Mr Biased Papa Oyedepo Churchgoer!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ they're not JWs but EX-JWs.
So ask them to tell us their religion now at least your own nah pentecostal winner chapel Papa Oyedepo church!

An Ex-JWs knows more than a none member.
All the gray areas you and your brothers cover are made known to us.
Yet, you have not faulted their claims.

At least you know Papa.
We know GBpreneurs also.

MightySparrow:
So they talk about money also?
GBpreneurs!

Oh Yes. They talk about money. Do you know how much money Watchtower makes through different congregations? Let me use U.K as an example. I came across some info about Watchtower in a charity website and I saw that Watchtower made Millions of pounds in one year. All that money goes straight to New York. Now that the Lawyers are charging Pennsylvania congregations under investigation by the Pennsylvania jury $470/hr plus other expenses for representation, they have released two Morning worship talks begging JWs for money. And guess how they word the begging? One speaker says in order to be friends of God and Jesus, you must send Watchtower money. In other words, you can buy your friendship with God with your unrighteous riches.

Another speaker says your donations must not be monetary. You can even donate coconuts. No joke. That's what he said. 🤣🤣 He also says their donations is tied to they entering the Kingdom. So, you see Watchtower is a Televangelist asking for money like other Churches and tying their salvation to it.

When I saw those talks, I understood immediately that they are tied to their Legal expenses of Child Sexual Abuse. JWs should get ready to donate to Watchtower so that they can help Watchtower cover up Child Sexual Abuse. The Legal fees are not cheap.

MightySparrow:
An Ex-JWs knows more than a none member.
All the gray areas you and your brothers cover are made known to us.
Yet, you have not faulted their claims.
At least you know Papa.
We know GBpreneurs also.

MaxInDHouse:
We were all born atheists it's our parents, guardians and neighbours that change our thinking into believing this or that.
So when we grow up and discover that what we were taught has no substance most of us return to what we were before the indoctrination.
As for CHRISTIANITY that's the one and only religion commissioned by God's only begotten Son that's why true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have the confidence to walk up to anyone and speak convincingly about our God. Romans 10:13-15

There's no other God out there that's why other religions can't speak convincingly because their gods are DEAD! Psalms 115:4-8

So if you can't present any group of people practicing pure worship ọmọ you've returned to the initial default mode: ATHEISM!

Ọmọ your friends are now ATHEISTS!

MaxInDHouse:
NO money falls from the sky to print materials, Bibles and build Kingdom Halls!

Mr Biased Papa Oyedepo Churchgoer!

Papa Oyedepo went to vote for his 'MESSIAH ' on Saturday

Aemmyjah:
Papa Oyedepo went to vote for his 'MESSIAH ' on Saturday

That's another wahala for faithless miscreants because the only thing that brings them together as friends is criticizing JWs afterwards each of them will pick up weapons against his fellowman due to politics or racism!

MightySparrow:
So they talk about money also?
GBpreneurs!

Yes, surely. If u read their publications (or their website) you will see it so. Sometimes a page or two inside their watchtower will talk about different ways to send money to "jehovah", including illustrations with pictures.