Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,158,267 members, 7,836,211 topics. Date: Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 11:16 PM

How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe - Family (6) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Family / How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe (18334 Views)

Son-in-law Impregnates Mother-in-law Who Came To Take Care Of Newborn Baby (pics / Dad Killed 15ft Python Trying To Swallow His Son In Australia(Pics) / Zimbabwean Mother-in-law Demands Sex From Son-in-law (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Denoh68: 8:08pm On Mar 03, 2023
sencekompis:
Ibos are BACKWARD folks, chey u no no ni ? Mostly does in the east tueee
YOU ARE VERY STUPID AND MAD
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Denoh68: 8:11pm On Mar 03, 2023
endy69:
I am igbo and I even place value more on female children. They are very lovely but in all, male or female just love your kids. Dead man no know wetn be family name. The present igbo generation place no emphasis on male child. Male or female I thank God and will love him or her
YOU ARE JUST CONSOLING YOURSELF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE MALE CHILDREN, WHO WILL CONTINUE YOUR LINEAGE.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ZIMDRILL(m): 8:20pm On Mar 03, 2023
pandax:


I have heard this highlighted fallacy too much. A woman and the sex position will determine the sex of the child and not the man, though the man is the carrier of the 'Y' chromosome for male children, but he cannot determine the sex of the child, as there is no way the man can decide to release only 'Y' chromosomal semen onto the woman to have a male child.

You are wrong too, neither man have no control in determining the sex of the baby, yes sex positions can influence deeper penetration for depositing sperms very near the cervix, then mastering days that also increases the chances of the male child

remember a woman is XX while men XY

the male sperm has XY either of those two will
determine the child's gender this would be inside womb, neither the woman has no control to which one will fertilise the egg
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Igboid: 8:35pm On Mar 03, 2023
Efewestern:


@ bolded. What happens when her father's side is more favourable than her husband's side? Shouldn't a woman be able to benefit from both side regardless of her marital status? There are benefits that comes with ancestral inheritance regardless of how equipped one is.

While this culture has its own good side, we can't really overlook the negative impact it has on the female child.

One thing I've come to realise is that most tribes in Nigeria differ greatly with the way they treat Men and Women. Us from across the Niger, You can't deny a Woman and her offspring her ancestral inheritance regardless of her marital status. Whatever you give the male, you must give the female. This too has its own advantages and disadvantages but I love the sense of self-worth and belongingness it brings to the female child.


I doubt women in your side have more power on their father's house than women in Igboland have in their father's house.

In Igboland, married women form an organization called Umuada or Umuokpu in their father's land, whose powers in decision making in their father's house is supreme.

Igbo culture doesn't allow a married woman to inherit her father's property, because she is expected to help her husband to create wealth and be a co-owner of that wealth.
The idea is that by being tasked to create wealth in her husband house rather than being invested in her father's property, she is by default likely to make a better wife!

When a man marries a woman, she gives him a portion of his own land to inherit.
This land belongs to the woman only as long as she is married to the man.
When she dies, she is expected by tradition to bequeath this land to her last son, and this inheritance will not be counted for the last son when they start sharing their father's land.
This is not universal in Igboland, but is present in most parts.

4 Likes

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by od501: 8:36pm On Mar 03, 2023
sharone21:


Not in all cases...

A situation where there is only 1 guy out of 5 ladies, we ( ladies) do the defense in the family and hide my brother and God has been helping us.

Well.. I'm not in your shoes, so wouldn't know exactly how it it. I'm only speaking from experience.

'Cos when haters from the village comes for a family, it takes more than one man to fight such war. I have experienced it first hand, more reason I tell my Igbo brothers about the importance of a male child.

Note, that this does not in any way disregard the importance of a female child in any family. Goodluck shaa
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by charlsecy(m): 8:53pm On Mar 03, 2023
endy69:
I am igbo and I even place value more on female children.
Stop deceiving yourself.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by jmichael259(m): 9:23pm On Mar 03, 2023
Vincenzomum:
I am married to a Igbo man. We are based in Italy. I have 3 girls for him. I tested positive for baby number 5 and we were discussing about the gender, my husband said..

He wants a son so bad. He said in Igbo tribe, a man is nothing without a son. I asked him what if we had another baby girl he said he will have no choice but to go to Nigeria and marry another woman who will bear sons for him so he can be a real man.

I have been restless since he has mentioned about marrying a second wife


Personally, I don't understand why these stories exist in this modern science era! Especially you live in Europe but still wait after 3-4 births to have one gender, with all procedures available for gender selection?

Please, go for IVF or surrogacy and stop all these lamentations! He has right to not be satisfied with only male or only female kids and it's selfish and hypocritical to tell him otherwise.

Daughters' children go to their husband's family not His.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Slynation(m): 10:39pm On Mar 03, 2023
bekpo:



It's now archaic culture, it was longed abrogated by d supreme. Female child can now inherit their father.
The Females doesn't even attend Umunna's meeting so it's not archaic, tradition is tradition...Everything depends on the peaceful coexistence with the man and his extended family/relatives
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Slynation(m): 10:43pm On Mar 03, 2023
Vincenzomum:
I am married to a Igbo man. We are based in Italy. We have 4 children 3 together. I have 3 girls for him. I tested positive for baby number 5 and we were discussing about the gender, my husband said something that makes me feel so bad.

He wants a son so bad. He said in Igbo tribe, a man is nothing without a son. I asked him what if we had another baby girl he said he will have no choice but to go to Nigeria and marry another woman who will bear sons for him so he can be a real man.

I asked him if he was serious then he changed his words saying he was joking, he doesn't mind the sex of our baby as long as the baby is healthy that is what matter.

I have been restless since he has mentioned about marrying a second wife even though he said it was a joke but I know that he wasn't joking, he was serious.

I want to know from igbo people, is it true that a man is nothing without a son and also what if the wife only bore female children is it compulsory for the man to marry a second one in Igbo tribe to bear him sons?
Everybody need a male son to carry on their respective lineage and a male child is very very important in Igbo tradition, anybody telling you otherwise is not well Informed...
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ZIMDRILL(m): 11:06pm On Mar 03, 2023
jmichael259:


Personally, I don't understand why these stories exist in this modern science era! Especially you live in Europe but still wait after 3-4 births to have one gender, with all procedures available for gender selection?

Please, go for IVF or surrogacy and stop all these lamentations! He has right to not be satisfied with only male or only female kids and it's selfish and hypocritical to tell him otherwise.

Daughters' children go to their husband's family not His.

You got a point but its not cheap, eg in UK option to have specif gender to be born is luxury on the top of the free health from the national health service, they would ask you to go private health care to achieve your desire

Am not sure of the USA but am sure you will pay more on your health premiums

1 Like

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by NaBanga: 11:06pm On Mar 03, 2023
So he doesn't know his sperm is failing him for the male child he desires. If he wants one, then he should go for IVF or sperm washing. Ignorance is not an excuse in this age of education. tongue
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Nobodysboo(m): 11:09pm On Mar 03, 2023
Very very very very very IMPORTANT!
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ZIMDRILL(m): 11:22pm On Mar 03, 2023
Slynation:
Everybody need a male son to carry on their respective lineage and a male child is very very important in Igbo tradition, anybody telling you otherwise is not well Informed...

not everyone is bothered about carry one with lineage.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by herich(m): 11:22pm On Mar 03, 2023
[quote author=Efewestern post=121437887]

Do people care about lineage or who inherits what's left on ground?

The reason most Igbo people want a male kid is so their offspring takes over from them but that is not so with other Southern tribes. If I give birth to 10 females and 0 male, I won't even be perturbed because I know they will inherit everything I labour for. [color=#006600][/color]
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by herich(m): 11:38pm On Mar 03, 2023
AutomaticMotors:


Remove South South from that writeup .... If you are Igbo face your region solely and do not speak on other foreign cultures
This SS dey make una sound dumb sometimes,
SS is a political region and not a particular/unique cultural region.
When it comes to culture,, speak for your own ethnic group in SS,, as there so many different ethnic groups in SS
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Slynation(m): 11:39pm On Mar 03, 2023
ZIMDRILL:


not everyone is bothered about carry one with lineage.
Oga, one of the primary aim of marriage is to have your own kids that will bear your name, else paternity fraud won't be that painful...

Even in a family that has ladies throughout, one of the ladies will decide to attach her family name to her name so as to carry on with her father's legacy, in some cases they adopted a male child, just say most people don't prioritize the aspects of a male child and I will understand, but to say they ain't bothered, they are very much bothered about it...

Also in the Bible, Hannah and Sarah was very much specific about there request of "A male child" from God...
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by AutomaticMotors: 11:46pm On Mar 03, 2023
herich:

This SS dey make una sound dumb sometimes,
SS is a political region and not a particular/unique cultural region.
When it comes to culture,, speak for your own ethnic group in SS,, as there so many different ethnic groups in SS

Keep that mouth closed is it your landlocked south east there are no other ethnic groups in it? A region that is not up to Edo state in size grin

FYI Ibibio , Ebira, and TIV people are also indegenous to your landlocked region
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ZIMDRILL(m): 12:08am On Mar 04, 2023
Slynation:
Oga, one of the primary aim of marriage is to have your own kids that will bear your name, else paternity fraud won't be that painful...

Even in a family that has ladies throughout, one of the ladies will decide to attach her family name to her name so as to carry on with her father's legacy, in some cases they adopted a male child, just say most people don't prioritize the aspects of a male child and I will understand, but to say they ain't bothered, they are very much bothered about it...

Also in the Bible, Hannah and Sarah was very much specific about there request of "A male child" from God...


i dont dispute your point of view but some people are happy with what their are given eg girls only

yes some men are intimidated by culture and traditions for not having a male child but some are not


also not every lives by what happened in the bible

1 Like

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by jmichael259(m): 12:18am On Mar 04, 2023
ZIMDRILL:


You got a point but its not cheap, eg in UK option to have specif gender to be born is luxury on the top of the free health from the national health service, they would ask you to go private health care to achieve your desire

Am not sure of the USA but am sure you will pay more on your health premiums


She said they live in Italy. I don't know about their medicare there but Yeah, it's not cheap in any country and definetly better as a private/specialist clinic affair.
However, compared to inconveniences of having extra kids than planned in search of a gender plus risking the mother through multiple pregnancies or the home shattering option of getting another wife.. The cost becomes inconsequential.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by herich(m): 12:19am On Mar 04, 2023
AutomaticMotors:


Keep that mouth closed is it your landlocked south east there are no other ethnic groups in it? A region that is not up to Edo state in size grin

FYI Ibibio , Ebira, and TIV people are also indegenous to your landlocked region

Clown!
An average ogoja man has no single cultural affiliation with ijaw, esan, ogoni, isoko, ika, uyo man, yet they're in same region.
Even some SS has more cultural affiliation with Igbos than ogoni, isoko esan, auchi etc, who happens to be in the same goe-polical region
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by AutomaticMotors: 12:43am On Mar 04, 2023
herich:


Clown!
An average ogoja man has no single cultural affiliation with ijaw, esan, ogoni, isoko, ika, uyo man, yet they're in same region.
Even some SS has more cultural affiliation with Igbos than ogoni, isoko esan, auchi etc, who happens to be in the same goe-polical region

The fact an Igbo fool is calling someone a clown online is hilarious and a big irony! Focus on your dilapidated land locked tiny region and leave people that have far far larger territory than you alone!! cheesy grin dumb ass ...... Wait shey na Nyamiri go tell me about south South ni ? grin grin This one weak me oo grin grin
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by nnol(m): 1:01am On Mar 04, 2023
frozen70:


Male child is to continue his name incase he dies at any time

But is he aware that he is the determinant factor for a male child because he has the Y chromosomes
Funny enough this word "Chromosome" often reminds me of chromosomal abnormality theory in the field of criminology. The theory asserts that when there is an extra Y in XY chromosome that is XYY then it indicates that a male criminal is being born.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by armyofone(m): 1:08am On Mar 04, 2023
You are in western world and you accepted his audacity to say that to you and disrespected you and the girls?
Please set him straight. By the way, don't try having another child. 5 is enough in this hot economy or you will suffer down the road and unable to give quality life to your children.

Look back to the hell hole Nigeria is in now due to too many children per family. Don't spend your lifetime "borning" and forget to live.

Enough madam. If he can't accept he can't give you a boy, tell him to vamoose.

1 Like

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ZIMDRILL(m): 1:18am On Mar 04, 2023
jmichael259:


She said they live in Italy. I don't know about their medicare there but Yeah, it's not cheap in any country and definetly better as a private/specialist clinic affair.
However, compared to inconveniences of having extra kids than planned in search of a gender plus risking the mother through multiple pregnancies or the home shattering option of getting another wife.. The cost becomes inconsequential.

i get you i can say both are a bit ignorant as there is lot information out there especially in thr developed world on how to increase a chances of having a boy or girl

1 Like

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Tonymario58: 5:32am On Mar 04, 2023
AutomaticMotors:


You see this thing you just posted bro it is very true and thought provoking, especially that part about special name for first daughters Infact I have book marked this comment !!

@Vincenzomum take heed and break off that marriage with that ibo man it won't end well oo, you have been having issues with him and still having issues, even if you can't break up with him do something to put him in his place, make him know you can do very well without him and it is him that needs you and the kids! If you do this trust that is the last time that ibo man would give you headache !!
You don't meant it right?
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Adaobiii: 6:16am On Mar 04, 2023
07kjb:


Woman have no right of INHERITANCE in Igbo land,stop deceiving your self
GO and read about the new inheritance law,then come back and have a word with me
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Adaobiii: 6:20am On Mar 04, 2023
SUPERPACK:
No be my fault that you can't read .
it's really a pity for you
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by ElijahIme1992(m): 6:33am On Mar 04, 2023
Akwamkpuruamu:
A male child is the scion of perpetuity in the family lineage. In all thy getting, get a male child
hmmmmm dis is deep, looks like wat Pete edochie will say in one of his movies... Wise quote 👏👏👏👏👏
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by lonelydora: 6:46am On Mar 04, 2023
Vincenzomum:
I am married to a Igbo man. We are based in Italy. We have 4 children 3 together. I have 3 girls for him. I tested positive for baby number 5 and we were discussing about the gender, my husband said something that makes me feel so bad.

He wants a son so bad. He said in Igbo tribe, a man is nothing without a son. I asked him what if we had another baby girl he said he will have no choice but to go to Nigeria and marry another woman who will bear sons for him so he can be a real man.

I asked him if he was serious then he changed his words saying he was joking, he doesn't mind the sex of our baby as long as the baby is healthy that is what matter.

I have been restless since he has mentioned about marrying a second wife even though he said it was a joke but I know that he wasn't joking, he was serious.

I want to know from igbo people, is it true that a man is nothing without a son and also what if the wife only bore female children is it compulsory for the man to marry a second one in Igbo tribe to bear him sons?

Mummy Vincenzo, how's Vincezo doing? (From your posts, it seems you and hubby are always quarrelling about one issue or another one your kids)

Well, the male child is important in every tribe, not only to the Igbo tribe (so they say)

It depends on your husband. I can tell you for free that your husband is not joking about marrying another wife if you don't bore him a son. He told you he's joking just to appease you so you don't feel bad.

See, in this modern age, every child is important, but if your husband want a male child, discuss with him and make him understand he's the determinant because he has X and Y chromosomes. I believe your husband is well educated, and not an "oso ahia"

But no matter what you do, don't sleep with another man in the name of getting a male child. (Yes, many women do that).

I pray God gives you a male child.
Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 7:17am On Mar 04, 2023
Igboid:


I doubt women in your side have more power on their father's house than women in Igboland have in their father's house.

In Igboland, married women form an organization called Umuada or Umuokpu in their father's land, whose powers in decision making in their father's house is supreme.

Igbo culture doesn't allow a married woman to inherit her father's property, because she is expected to help her husband to create wealth and be a co-owner of that wealth.
The idea is that by being tasked to create wealth in her husband house rather than being invested in her father's property, she is by default likely to make a better wife!

When a man marries a woman, she gives him a portion of his own land to inherit.
This land belongs to the woman only as long as she is married to the man.
When she dies, she is expected by tradition to bequeath this land to her last son, and this inheritance will not be counted for the last son when they start sharing their father's land.
This is not universal in Igboland, but is present in most parts.


Maybe you still don't get me when I say women enjoy as much liberty as men in this part. A woman is part of the family. Doesn't matter if she is single, married, alive or even dead. She has equal stake as male and so she is typically carried along in almost everything/process.

Women's right in Igbo land is conditional. Ours isn't. Our forebears have always treated female and male with great sense of regards and equity. The benefits males have over females here is just irrelevant. Although there are things reserved for males (first sons).

You can't deny a woman her ancestral inheritance on the basis that is she married. You also can't exclude her offspring from what's due to them too. I can still lay claim to some huge benefits from my maternal grandparent's family and I won't be denied.

I know of Umuada and from my little experience,I know they are mostly relevant during traditional marriage rites and some other activities. They can't stand when real decision are being made by the males in that family.

This huge difference between our various culture has an effect on the females Psych. The way Urhobo women behave in marriage is different from the way Igbo women will behave.

1 Like

Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Guyman01: 10:05am On Mar 04, 2023
Pastoshizzy:
Igbos are rich in culture.
You should have a son, a better version of yourself. Your quota to the clan. A man to take charge of all that you have worked for. Your voice when you're old. That is how it is.
To adopt a male child as an heir is a taboo.
But then, things are evolving. Women have exceeded a man's average as regards greatness. Some daughters have really done their father proud.

To adopt a male child as a heir is never a taboo in Igboland as long as the man officially presented him to Umunna as his son and performs the rituals according to tradition.

You saw Mr Ibu daughter despite being adopted taking her stand in the recent family dispute as Ada and his biological sons supporting her against their step mother because he did the official rites when he adopted her and her Umuada group are behind her

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply)

Please Who Knows How To Do A Change Of Name After Marriage / I Am Very Unhappy In My Marriage / Your Cousin's Son Or Daughter Is Called What?

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 76
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.