Aemmyjah:


Stupid source
I hear someone say the current president is not Buhari but one Jubrin of Sudan
How do I find the TRUTH?
Is it by reading articles of those that claim it is not Buhari but Jubrin

I am not surprised that you'll go and find such things just as Maynment went to find a book that talks about the activity of a group of people that lived long before Jesus came and worshiped one pagan god and he said those people were the Christians when he Mented brain won't tell him that Christians then had nothing to do with paganism or gods.


What Jaephoenix, the ape doctor does not know is that Josephus was NEVER a Christian or Christian apologist. Some of what he wrote seems to have been altered a bit but he has given evidence that Jesus and John the Baptiser existed
I won't be surprised if you say that Tacitus soeticus and Pliny works were also lies


Atheists think backwards
One said Jesus is not existent only cos of difference in name spelling
Another complained about his color as seen in books
Maynment is just attacking every evidence even contradicting himself
He said Josephus only acknowledge Judas
You say Josephus was lying

The second link you dropped, even the title of the article will tell you that it is a negative one

Forget about what people who have decided that Jesus is a fabrication...

You provide those who met jesus and started the religion, wrote and said about jesus. That will be worth a kings Ransome today...

Just provide your own superior source...

Aemmyjah:


End of case
That makes you gullible if you're a religious person

It kind of makes you gullible...

Because you can believe anything...even when there is not evidence to back it up...

Aemmyjah:


What else do you expect of a man, not a warrior or king but someone known for preaching n powerful works and only walked around Palestine?

Use your brain bri

How did you know about this man?

Do you know anybody that met him?

Or you just read a book, written 300+ years after he was said to have lived?

Aemmyjah:


MAYNMENT is running from the light as he wants to seek darkness but he thinks he's playing with premium churchgoers that listen to what daddy GO says

I have tackled all these points when a deluded Christian like you tried to make these points.
Pliny the Younger, and this is about his letters…
Neither Pliny nor Trajan mentions the crime that Christians were supposed to have committed, except for being a Christian; and other historical sources do not provide a simple answer to what that crime could be, but most likely due to the stubborn refusal of Christians to worship Roman gods; making them appear as objecting to Roman rule.
As you can see, he talked about Christians, and not Jesus. Its just like somebody telling you Islam is real or Mohammed is a prophet because Muslims were jailed.
Does it make sense?
Next up was Origen, a Christian theologer. What the Bleep do you expect a Christian theologer to say about Jesus?
To say he didn't exist?

Aemmyjah:


Where's Tacitus here na?

I hope you know that
Josephus
Tacitus
Soeticus
Pliny the Younger

None of them were Christians. The Roman historians were even very hateful of Christians
Now you mention about the activity Christians but their founder, Christ, never existed?
And you want us to believe say u no ment?
Original MENTor

They were talking about Christians and not Jesus

jaephoenix:

1. I just prove to you the secular authors' posts were faked.
2. If Jesus was indeed a historical figure that even did wonders, raised from the dead etc, do you think there would be a dispute to his existence? Hitler, Washington, Gandhi all lived before us, but many books(not just one) , texts, articles were written about them without disputes.
3. The Bible is popular because Emperor Constantine of Rome slaughtered many non believers and people that refused christianity ,and imposed Christianity on many countries. It turned out they exported it to the Anglo Saxons(present day UK) who spread it to the US, which later became a world power. Thus christianity became more popular. If China(who is suspected to be the next world power) becomes powerful, christianity would be a minority. So just chill
4. Please how did the Bible give us the rights we enjoy today?

1. From a link where the author is a critic of the Bible and even some the comments in the article try to correct his claims? You have not given any in the 3 Roman historians

2. You want to compare the record of Hitler, Washington and Gandhi - men who lived roughly, 100 or 200 or 300 years ago and compare with a man that lived about 2000 years ago especially as his existence was NEVER doubted even after several centuries after his death? You reason worse than children

3. At a point, it was criminal and seditious to own a Bible or translate it and many were killed. Rome, tried to destroy Christianity and the Bible at some point but the Author has kept His book from being destroyed by men to and it has now become the best seller of all time and most translated but you say Rome are the ones that made it popular. Shame!

4. Many of the human rights enjoy today are based on Jesus Christ words especially sermon on the Mount. Most nations constitutions borrow from the 10 commandments of the Bible as it deals with relationship with one another as our actions can affect for good or for bad.

With your level of understanding, I really pity anyone that comes to your hospital as you claim to be a doctor

jaephoenix:

They were talking about Christians and not Jesus

And who were the Christians?

Oh, could it be that you could not find any article online that dismissed them depositions as lies?

Aemmyjah:


Many things were added to the Bible by some spurious writers. These includes verses, chapters and books as a whole but today, many translations have studied it and removed them. Go n rest

Yet you still believe it as divine and 'the word of god'? Are you not deluded?

jaephoenix:

I have tackled all these points when a deluded Christian like you tried to make these points.
Pliny the Younger, and this is about his letters…
Neither Pliny nor Trajan mentions the crime that Christians were supposed to have committed, except for being a Christian; and other historical sources do not provide a simple answer to what that crime could be, but most likely due to the stubborn refusal of Christians to worship Roman gods; making them appear as objecting to Roman rule.
As you can see, he talked about Christians, and not Jesus. Its just like somebody telling you Islam is real or Mohammed is a prophet because Muslims were jailed.
Does it make sense?
Next up was Origen, a Christian theologer. What the Bleep do you expect a Christian theologer to say about Jesus?
To say he didn't exist?

Lol
What you said does not even make any sense to you
Jesus works was done among the jews
So he will have little dealings or popularity among the non jews
He commission his followers to preach the gospel everywhere, all over the world and this will bring them closer to non jews.
Because those writers talked less about Jesus Christ made him non-existent right?

sonmvayina:


How did you know about this man?

Do you know anybody that met him?

Or you just read a book, written 300+ years after he was said to have lived?

I know someone that met Moses, Confucius, Alexander the Great

So we should not believe anything written in books about someone that existed about 2 millenia ago?

PointB:


Have you checked your bible to confirm this portion has been removed? John 8: 1-11, go an verify.

Do you want more inaccuracies in the bible?

Let me ask one question:

According to the Bible, the Sun and Moon were created on the 4th Day. Earth of course was created in the beginning.

Now base on your understanding of science, which came first - Sun (our star) or Earth (our Planet)?

You're wasting your time. This dude is scientifically dense

sonmvayina:



It kind of makes you gullible...

Because you can believe anything...even when there is not evidence to back it up...

Religion is faith without fact, accor8to Somyvina. No wonder why your comments are always gullible as you won't find just one person that shares the same line of thought with you in any posts or comments you make

sonmvayina:


Forget about what people who have decided that Jesus is a fabrication...

You provide those who met jesus and started the religion, wrote and said about jesus. That will be worth a kings Ransome today...

Just provide your own superior source...

Have you read Psalm 2 finish?

jaephoenix:

The original Tacitus deposition mentioned about Christians(not Jesus) in a sentence.

Historical Christians or mythical (story forged) Christians?

jaephoenix:

They all came from the Testimonium Flavionum, which was found to be falsified

BY you?

jaephoenix:

Yet you still believe it as divine and 'the word of god'? Are you not deluded?

People tried to add things to the Bible but the author has kept its book clean

We have a mad rapper who tried to make his own bible, replacing every place where God was mentioned to Ye

Aemmyjah:


Ok

TO save my time, Jesus is actually Joshua or old testament.
I hope you're happy now

Lol. Dude is now clueless

Aemmyjah:


Mention one name in the bible that it is accurately spelt or pronounced the way it was when the character actually lived

They were written hundreds of years after those events supposedly happened

jaephoenix:

Lol. Dude is now clueless

If you are able to comprehend, you'll see that the comment was sarcastic
Apes don't know sarcasm. Do they?

jaephoenix:

They were written hundreds of years after those events supposedly happened

Does this answer my simple question?

sonmvayina:


Looks like you are dumb..

How can somebody who raise the dead

Fed thousand of people with 2 fish and 5 bread

Walked on water

Heal the sick


And nobody wrote anything about all of these?

Common man....

And on top of that, he is a son of God. God did not tell people, like he talked to Moses or Aaron....nobody knew...
All we have are stories written 300+ years later...

Noooo, something does not add up..

FYI God already gave the Israelites his laws.
He never said anything like sending his son to earth...or did he??

Add to that, that the all the events in the Bible happened in a small region in the middle east, which occupied about 0.00001% of world mass, and no mention of events outside there. Does it mean Yahweh wasn't interested in those areas? Or nobody existed outside there?
With all these facts, that shows the bible was a man made collection by ignorant folks

Aemmyjah:


So someone will pick up professional writing cos of just one man right?
Even if there was, it's about 2000 years now
U are very dumb

Have you not read right from the garden of eden when he promised to send the SEED? Same promise to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, etc but the identity of that seed was a mystery

The Bible foretold his birth as from a virgin and he was to have everlasting rulership and destroying God's enemies and bringing everlasting blessings to obedient mankind and also put to death to pay for transgressions

And yes, the Bible mentions that it was to be a Son of God. You have not read Psalms 2. Have you?

Do you notice all these 'events' youre quoting is still from the disputed bible and not elsewhere?
At the bolded, if someone healed you of a particular disease that has been pestering you since childhood, don't you think writing about him wouldnt be the least of your appreciation?

Aemmyjah:


MAYNMENT said Josephus deposition if for Judas the Galilean
You say everything is a lie

Atheista are really naive

I'm talking about TF Testimonium Flavinium, where he said Jesus did extraordinary deeds

jaephoenix:

I'm talking about TF Testimonium Flavinium, where he said Jesus did extraordinary deeds

Is that his only reference to Jesus?
Now, you seem to be cornfused

Aemmyjah:


Stupid source
I hear someone say the current president is not Buhari but one Jubrin of Sudan
How do I find the TRUTH?
Is it by reading articles of those that claim it is not Buhari but Jubrin

I am not surprised that you'll go and find such things just as Maynment went to find a book that talks about the activity of a group of people that lived long before Jesus came and worshiped one pagan god and he said those people were the Christians when he Mented brain won't tell him that Christians then had nothing to do with paganism or gods.


What Jaephoenix, the ape doctor does not know is that Josephus was NEVER a Christian or Christian apologist. Some of what he wrote seems to have been altered a bit but he has given evidence that Jesus and John the Baptiser existed
I won't be surprised if you say that Tacitus soeticus and Pliny works were also lies


Atheists think backwards
One said Jesus is not existent only cos of difference in name spelling
Another complained about his color as seen in books
Maynment is just attacking every evidence even contradicting himself
He said Josephus only acknowledge Judas
You say Josephus was lying

The second link you dropped, even the title of the article will tell you that it is a negative one

Lol at the bolded. You call insertion of a whole sentence about Jesus, 'altered a bit'?

jaephoenix:

Do you notice all these 'events' youre quoting is still from the disputed bible and not elsewhere?
At the bolded, if someone healed you of a particular disease that has been pestering you since childhood, don't you think writing about him wouldnt be the least of your appreciation?

Writing to whom and for whom?
For a nation and or as career
Anyone that acknowledge Jesus were to be dealt with by the religious leaders and it could mean financial losses for such and that is why notable men were not courageous to become his disciple

How much more someone writing it to spread it abroad?
Shame

Are you talking about the mythical Jesus or historical Jesus?

Aemmyjah:


What else do you expect of a man, not a warrior or king but someone known for preaching n powerful works and only walked around Palestine?

Use your brain bri

Bro, a man that healed the sick, raised the dead, resurrected etc, would be written about in several books. Not just that, carvings and depictions of his actions would be all over the place. But in fact we cannot find anything

jaephoenix:

Lol at the bolded. You call insertion of a whole sentence about Jesus, 'altered a bit'?

So you want to tell the forum that in all Josephus writings, everything he said about Jesus was in one sentence?

After the end of ramadan, let them show a documentary on how Mohammed is a false prophet.

Cowards.

Aemmyjah:


Have you read Psalm 2 finish?

Lol..Psalm 2 is about David...

It was written by David and given to the choirmaster to read during service...

It is not a prophecy..

Aemmyjah:


Religion is faith without fact, accor8to Somyvina. No wonder why your comments are always gullible as you won't find just one person that shares the same line of thought with you in any posts or comments you make

Provide the evidence for the historical existence of jesus and put me to shame..

Religion is about faith..not fact..

Aemmyjah:


Show us where Yeshua or Joshua was changed to Jesus
The book you dismiss are mere myth is the same book you're asking foolish questions

Are you evening reading? J was added to the English alphabet in the 1532.
Besides early Aramaic used Yahushua or Yeshua, not Jesus. I'm surprised a supposed christian doesn't know this