SIRTee15:


I dont need u to tell me what's going on in my profession.
Besides, I'm beginning to suspect this Sukkot guy, he may actually be a troll who never lived in the UK, for him to keep repeating this article says a lot.
Now let me ask u a question to know if u actually lived in the uk. when people in UK say they going to their SURGERY, what do they mean? Where is SURGERY and who works in SURGERY?
Besides u are yet to explain to us how u lived 20 yrs in UK without a house to your name. Like 20 good years and u couldn't raise 5k for 'help to buy'.

Anyway below is from my e-mail today.

see the difference between you and I ? I am very sensitive to the economic plight of many people in this country as well as the globe at large. There are many people in need. And I am a very spiritual person if you go through all my posts. I do come and catch my fun but ultimately I am all about spirituality and because of that and also knowing the economic plight of many ? When I come on forums like this or even in real life I always try to keep a very humble profile. I am a very humble person. But in actuality all these things you are bragging about I have done it and it’s nothing. I bought my first house in the UK in 2002 in the north of England. A place called Preston. I have worked locum as an electro-cardiologist. I have worked in many NHS hospitals as well as with BMI healthcare. So all these things are nothing. And I still put it to you that the money while it may sound like much to someone coming from a poor background like yourself ? To me it wasn’t that much. Keep in mind I have friends And family members who were in naija who just a trip sponsored by the company they work for , like say a one week trip they give them Esther codes, which is payment for the trip , of like 20,000 pounds. 20,000 pounds for a week conference in the uk but a poor man like yourself is masturbating over 40 pounds per hour. Now you see why we are different ? It’s the background. I don’t see any salary in the uk as great because truly ? It isn’t.

SIRTee15:

I'm Yoruba myself so that's a lame punch. Find something else. I just don't deal with an economic extractive political thief like Tinubu

ok Chidi

SIRTee15:


Another one from my e-mail. Now that we've clarified doctor's salary in UK.

Now explain to us how u lived in UK for 20 yrs without a house to your name. Houses were fvcking cheap then. All u needed was 5k to own a house.
So how come u never bought just one, even if council house. Were u blowing all your money in clubs or spending on girls. Did u send your kids to private school or what?
Tell us your mistakes so others won't repeat same mistakes.

although I dey vex for Egbon Sukkot at the moment, you and justwise have not in any way weakened his argument with your responses. Sorry. The article he posted is as recent as they come and talk clearly about 'majority' in a clear sense, hence, why there is a freaking strike. It does not mean some doctors don't earn more than 14, it simply means most earn close to that, hence, the strike by the MOST. Simple sturvs bro. Some FMCG pays some Head of Sales 1.8m monthly in Nigeria, and some pay Head of Sales 70k monthly. I cannot now, bring screenshot of the ad that seeks to pay that Head of Sales 1.8m as the standard in an argument. The article Sukkot posted shows clearly the pay range of the majority, except YOU are saying they are striking and shutting things down cos of three or four doctors.

Before some fellas come say I am putting compatriots down, edakan na simple discussion and analysis I join o. T for thanks.

Treadway:
although I dey vex for Egbon Sukkot at the moment, you and justwise have not in any way weakened his argument with your responses. Sorry. The article he posted is as recent as they come and talk clearly about 'majority' in a clear sense, hence, why there is a freaking strike. It does not mean some doctors don't earn more than 14, it simply means most earn close to that, hence, the strike by the MOST. Simple sturvs bro. Some FMCG pays some Head of Sales 1.8m monthly in Nigeria, and some pay Head of Sales 70k monthly. I cannot now, bring screenshot of the ad that seeks to pay that Head of Sales 1.8m as the standard in an argument. The article Sukkot posted shows clearly the pay range of the majority except you are saying th y are striking and shutting things down cos of three or four doctors.

Before some babies come say I am putting compatriots down, edakan na simple discussion and analysis I join o. T for thanks.

If u don't know, ask questions instead of forming what I do t know. There's a difference btw salaried job and locum job. That's the difference.

Treadway:
although I dey vex for Egbon Sukkot at the moment, you and justwise have not in any way weakened his argument with your responses. Sorry. The article he posted is as recent as they come and talk clearly about 'majority' in a clear sense, hence, why there is a freaking strike. It does not mean some doctors don't earn more than 14, it simply means most earn close to that, hence, the strike by the MOST. Simple sturvs bro. Some FMCG pays some Head of Sales 1.8m monthly in Nigeria, and some pay Head of Sales 70k monthly. I cannot now, bring screenshot of the ad that seeks to pay that Head of Sales 1.8m as the standard in an argument. The article Sukkot posted shows clearly the pay range of the majority except YOU are saying they are striking and shutting things down cos of three or four doctors.

Before some fellas come say I am putting compatriots down, edakan na simple discussion and analysis I join o. T for thanks.

lol Chief whatever offence I committed please I ask for forgiveness.

SIRTee15:


If u don't know, ask questions instead of forming what I do t know. There's a difference btw salaried job and locum job. That's the difference.

ok. I know what locum is. So are the majority able to do locum on the side and still keep up with the shifts and demands of the salaried job? I ask cos in Naija it ain't that easy

SIRTee15:


If u don't know, ask questions instead of forming what I do t know. There's a difference btw salaried job and locum job. That's the difference.

locum is not a job. you are just filling in a temporary need

sukkot:
locum is not a job. you are just filling in a temporary need

I know bros, knowing Naija people I won't be surprised they could be juggling both a salaried job and locum temp. My next question to sirtee15 which I may was well ask now is are the majority of HCPs (Nigerian or not) now into locum practice or does the NHS have the majority of HCPs on the payroll in a salaried job?

SIRTee15:


If u don't know, ask questions instead of forming what I do t know. There's a difference btw salaried job and locum job. That's the difference.

Tell me you are really wasting your time with that individual? Have you gone through his posts about anything about the UK?

sukkot:
see the difference between you and I ? I am very sensitive to the economic plight of many people in this country as well as the globe at large. There are many people in need. And I am a very spiritual person if you go through all my posts. I do come and catch my fun but ultimately I am all about spirituality and because of that and also knowing the economic plight of many ? When I come on forums like this or even in real life I always try to keep a very humble profile. I am a very humble person. But in actuality all these things you are bragging about I have done it and it’s nothing. I bought my first house in the UK in 2002 in the north of England. A place called Preston. I have worked locum as an electro-cardiologist. I have worked in many NHS hospitals as well as with BMI healthcare. So all these things are nothing. And I still put it to you that the money while it may sound like much to someone coming from a poor background like yourself ? To me it wasn’t that much. Keep in mind I have friends And family members who were in naija who just a trip sponsored by the company they work for , like say a one week trip they give them Esther codes, which is payment for the trip , of like 20,000 pounds. 20,000 pounds for a week conference in the uk but a poor man like yourself is masturbating over 40 pounds per hour. Now you see why we are different ? It’s the background. I don’t see any salary in the uk as great because truly ? It isn’t.

I'm not here to brag but to correct your disinformation. U are the one misguiding people about UK.
Now if it's true u bought your first house in 2002 in Preston, is that not a good investment. I'm sure u would have almost pay it off. I'm not sure if Preston is a high valued area but collecting rents in pounds and spending in naira is a wise economic decision.
So why don't u allow others to go n try their luck. Instead u come to nairaland all the time to make it seem like UK is a disaster that immigrants will forever regret.
Property is the wisest investment any immigrant can have for himself. Return back home later in life and enjoy the proceeds of the investment in local currency. Meanwhile your kids already have an edge over there colleagues in case they choose no to return. U do t need to stress yourself over old age or govt paying pension. U also don't need to disturb your kids over what to eat.
Your estacode comment is meaningless. exept u saying every tom dick and Harry Nigerian picks 20k pounds estacode working for company then I don't know how that helps the common man u fighting for.

sukkot:
i see you are still pained by the yoruba defeat. you will be fine.

Oh really? Now i understand...pointless!

justwise:


Oh really? Now i understand...pointless!

that wasn’t to you . The guy I quoted was abusing Yoruba because of tinubu

justwise:


Tell me you are really wasting your time with that individual? Have you gone through his posts about anything about the UK?

this beef deep o...it is well. Have you gone through your post about anything about Nigeria🤣

Treadway:
ok. I know what locum is. So are the majority able to do locum on the side and still keep up with the shifts and demands of the salaried job? I ask cos in Naija it ain't that easy

Its your choice if u want locum or salaried. U go for what's convenient for u or balance both based on number of hours u put into salaried job.

Treadway:
I know bros, knowing Naija people I won't be surprised they could be juggling both a salaried job and locum temp. My next question to sirtee15 which I may was well ask now is are the majority of HCPs (Nigerian or not) now into locum practice or does the NHS have the majority of HCPs on the payroll in a salaried job?

locum is a young mans game. People without families. Most have salaried jobs. Just a minuscule number do locum

sukkot:
that wasn’t to you

It doesn't matter, i'm just disgusted that i have to share this forum with your character.

If any decent Nigerian in 2023 is still waving tribal flag then that individual is more dangerous than acid and gun powder.

I will never exchange a word with you anymore.

SIRTee15:

Its your choice if u want locum or salaried. U go for what's convenient for u or balance both based on number of hours u put into salaried job.

aiit..fair enough

sukkot:
Rilwayne wagwan bro. Salute to you Sir . 21 gun salute

My breda. These heathens are stiffnecked reprobates

justwise:


It doesn't matter, i'm just disgusted that i have to share this forum with your character.

If any decent Nigerian in 2023 is still waving tribal flag then that individual is more dangerous than acid and gun powder.

I will never exchange a word with you anymore.

did you not see the comment of the guy I was responding to ?

Rilwayne001:


My breda. These heathens are stiffnecked reprobates

brother I done taya sef lmao

SIRTee15:


Another one from my e-mail. Now that we've clarified doctor's salary in UK.

Now explain to us how u lived in UK for 20 yrs without a house to your name. Houses were fvcking cheap then. All u needed was 5k to own a house.
So how come u never bought just one, even if council house. Were u blowing all your money in clubs or spending on girls. Did u send your kids to private school or what?
Tell us your mistakes so others won't repeat same mistakes.

Hi brother, thanks for standing up for the truth here.

I would like to indulge your experience, pls sir.

My fiance is already in the UK doing a living-care job. She earns a little above 3k/month.

I'm also planning to go meet her by next month all other things being equal.

I have a BSc in Political Science and she has BSc in Computer science.

As young couples ready to work our asses off for a better and brighter future...
Pls advise sir, what kinda career path do you think we can pursue both in the short term and long term. Thanks brother.

Treadway:
this beef deep o...it is well. Have you gone through your post about anything about Nigeria🤣

SIRTee15:

I'm not here to brag but to correct your disinformation. U are the one misguiding people about UK.
Now if it's true u bought your first house in 2002 in Preston, is that not a good investment. I'm sure u would have almost pay it off. I'm not sure if Preston is a high valued area but collecting rents in pounds and spending in naira is a wise economic decision.
So why don't u allow others to go n try their luck. Instead u come to nairaland all the time to make it seem like UK is a disaster that immigrants will forever regret.
Property is the wisest investment any immigrant can have for himself. Return back home later in life and enjoy the proceeds of the investment in local currency. Meanwhile your kids already have an edge over there colleagues in case they choose no to return. U do t need to stress yourself over old age or govt paying pension. U also don't need to disturb your kids over what to eat.
Your estacode comment is meaningless. exept u saying every tom dick and Harry Nigerian picks 20k pounds estacode working for company then I don't know how that helps the common man u fighting for.

brother uk then and uk now ? Are two different things. Secondly I am not here discouraging anybody. The point here is to be enlightened before you jump in. I am breaking down the realities. And the estacode comment is just to let you know that someone coming from a Nigerian background where you see people collecting 20k pounds for weekend conference trips to the Uk ? It’s hard to be impressed by one guy masturbating over 40 pounds an hour. Which the tax on that would be almost half of it so technically it’s only 20 an hour

sukkot:
Now you see why we are different ? It’s the background. I don’t see any salary in the uk as great because truly ? It isn’t.

I'll assume that you've come from a background of relative wealth.

Are you saying that you see those who earn 200k
in Naira per month as "slaves" for migrating to Europe (or even the "shitty" UK)?

Are you saying it doesn't make economic sense?

In a country where majority of people do not even see up to 150k per month and minimum wage is 33k?

I don't want to believe that you're thinking that a lot of people spent "20 million Naira" to relocate...not when greater than 80percent of the Nigerian population have less than 500k liquid in their accounts...and a large number (which I cannot remember) live below the poverty line..

SIRTee15:

I'm not here to brag but to correct your disinformation. U are the one misguiding people about UK.
Now if it's true u bought your first house in 2002 in Preston, is that not a good investment. I'm sure u would have almost pay it off. I'm not sure if Preston is a high valued area but collecting rents in pounds and spending in naira is a wise economic decision.
So why don't u allow others to go n try their luck. Instead u come to nairaland all the time to make it seem like UK is a disaster that immigrants will forever regret.
Property is the wisest investment any immigrant can have for himself. Return back home later in life and enjoy the proceeds of the investment in local currency. Meanwhile your kids already have an edge over there colleagues in case they choose no to return. U do t need to stress yourself over old age or govt paying pension. U also don't need to disturb your kids over what to eat.
Your estacode comment is meaningless. exept u saying every tom dick and Harry Nigerian picks 20k pounds estacode working for company then I don't know how that helps the common man u fighting for.

oh and some parts of Preston are high value like fulwood and penwortham etc etc

Kaycee54321:


I'll assume that you've come from a background of relative wealth.

Are you saying that you see those who earn 200k
in Naira per month as "slaves" for migrating to Europe (or even the "shitty" UK?

Are you saying it doesn't make economic sense?

In a country where majority of people do not even see up to 150k per month and minimum wage is 33k?

I don't want to believe that you're thinking that a lot of people spent "20 million Naira" to relocate...not when greater than 80percent of the Nigerian population have less than 500k liquid in their accounts...and a large number (which I cannot remember) live below the poverty line..

what I am saying brother is ? Try to migrate to the USA or forget it. UK is sapa land. UK is somewhere to go spend money , not to make money. If you are looking for money ? Go to America

sukkot:
what I am saying brother is ? Try to migrate to the USA or forget it. UK is sapa land. UK is somewhere to go spend money , not to make money. If you are looking for money ? Go to America

Moving directly from Naija to USA is HARD currently.

People move to the UK (at least those I know) for leverage. At least, you'd get decent living in Preston compared to Ilorin.

Then, you can shift your focus to the US. The money is definitely in the States...

SIRTee15:

I'm not here to brag but to correct your disinformation. U are the one misguiding people about UK.
Now if it's true u bought your first house in 2002 in Preston, is that not a good investment. I'm sure u would have almost pay it off. I'm not sure if Preston is a high valued area but collecting rents in pounds and spending in naira is a wise economic decision.
So why don't u allow others to go n try their luck. Instead u come to nairaland all the time to make it seem like UK is a disaster that immigrants will forever regret.
Property is the wisest investment any immigrant can have for himself. Return back home later in life and enjoy the proceeds of the investment in local currency. Meanwhile your kids already have an edge over there colleagues in case they choose no to return. U do t need to stress yourself over old age or govt paying pension. U also don't need to disturb your kids over what to eat.
Your estacode comment is meaningless. exept u saying every tom dick and Harry Nigerian picks 20k pounds estacode working for company then I don't know how that helps the common man u fighting for.

Rich man Sukkot. Lol.

Come to think of it, You get like 2 million naira you are not using at the moment? I need it urgently. Say the truth or I'll report you to immigration. 😅😂🤣😁

But take it easy bro. 👍

sukkot:
yeah I was even being generous when I said that over 90 percent. Truly no white man in the UK wants any black man over the age of 50 sitting in his office or his establishment . At that age you are like hard to train plus also the racism factor. So in the UK as a black man if you are over 50 the only job you can get is security work . That's the only time they want you in their office and mostly at night when they don't have to interact with you. So truly it's over 99 percent of Nigerian men over the age of 50 in the UK are security guards. The only way you are doing good in the UK over the age of 50 is if you are a medical doctor. That's it.

Thumbs up Sukkot for this very engaging thread! You spoke near-absolute truth as usual here in your convo with @SisiOge.

On the other hand, it's better for those UK-based Nigerian male folks aged over 50 to retool themselves and become investors and entrepreneurs after due diligence. The richest and most successful immigrants in Canada, UK, U.S.A, etc, are business people tbh.

sukkot:
hehe sister forget that thing ooooo it's those who will get stuck in those menial jobs that are the most. I know one oga who has been driving taxi in America for 30 years now. Some will driver Uber forever. In London almost 90 percent of naija men over the age of 50 are security guards and have been doing it for over 30 years. Forget that thing oooo sister . But make we leave am for here as you talk. Make God bless us all

Lol.

XAUBulls:

Thumbs up Sukkot for this very engaging thread! You spoke near-absolute truth as usual here in your convo with @SisiOge.

On the other hand, it's better for those UK-based Nigerian male folks aged over 50 to retool themselves and become investors and entrepreneurs after due diligence. The richest and most successful immigrants in Canada, UK, U.S.A, etc, are business people tbh.

its great advice Chief but not everyone is cut out for business . some people are just workers

ShaqFu:
Rich man Sukkot. Lol.

Come to think of it, You get like 2 million naira you are not using at the moment? I need it urgently. Say the truth or I'll report you to immigration. 😅😂🤣😁

But take it easy bro. 👍

am not rich ooo but i am around richness. i just need to tap in