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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. Bro, what scenario did Serena have that she received alternative blood transfusion? Even the doctors in the US would tell you there are limitations to those alternatives and being in a reseource poor environment like Nigeria, you won't have it handy. Take for example Erythropoietin and iron sucrose . Its very costly and thus not easily available. It costs 40k to 50k weekly. And given 2x weekly. And guess what, this is for chronic anemia which happens in kidney disease or cancer.
In acute anemia, you need blood, straight up . Ask any doctor you meet. Also ask your Kingdom hall pastors(or whatever you call them),if they are honest, they'll tell you its not indicated in all cases of blood loss or anemia.
2. When you say White Supremacist gave us crap I laugh at you. Are those 8 bald headed vultures in the US that control your brain cells blacks? But if they tell you, "Max stop eating" you'll gladly ask them "for how many days?"
Unfortunately I'm not built that way. I have a thinking machine sitting on my neck. I ask questions.
Also those 'White Supremacists' gave us modern medicine. The thing with medicine is it works in any part of the world you are in. So you cant use a different drug for different ailments. Its the same. The issue is availability. There are better blood alternatives in the US, even though they take the place of real blood. But those alternatives aren't available for the average Nigerian here.
Your Serena Williams didn't have those scenarios I listed there, so please shove your ignorance where the sun don't shine
Sorry with your scenario i'm not interested! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:48pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol. This makes my day. Again lol. grin cheesy
I would have stopped engaging you for the health of my brain cells, but I'm torn between comedy and health.
1. There are what we call indications for alternative blood transfusion. Indications mean instances where they are given. Acute blood loss requires blood, especially in this part of the world. If you Max(in Nigeria), have an acute blood loss and request for artificial blood instead of real blood, you'll surely bleed to death. No caps. Even though they are trying to make better blood substitutes, they are not readily available in Nigeria due to our problems. So what are you gonna do?
2. If you can read, which I doubt you do, you'll see there has been research on going for blood substitutes since the 15th century, well before JW rascals came on this earth. And this researches have been providing blood substitutes which is almost like the real blood(but not quite). And they keep on doing their work. So which JW taught them? Do you guys even fund any of those researches?
I don't feel like cussing you out but keep on exposing your ignorance for my risible pleasure. grin
Guy you're a real novice! cheesy

JWs have all what it takes to rescue any patient without blood transfusion but since your brains has been programmed to think blood transfusion can save you i'll allow you continue in your folly.
Whatever kills a patient with our alternative remedies will surely kill anyone whether you infuse blood into their nose or brains! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:48pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
By spending billions of dollars to produce weapons and training humans how to kill their fellow humans shey?

For your information there's no evil thought that's going on in the minds of imperfect humans that JWs aren't prone to it yet with the help of God's word we are turning our swords into plowshares. Isaiah 2:4

Shame on you and all your teachers, Jehovah has proved to be the wisest! smiley
If hiding the impunities and atrocities of your fellow Witnesses qualifies as peace loving, then lemme have war!
I hate hypocrisy!
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
If hiding the impunities and atrocities of your fellow Witnesses qualifies as peace loving, then lemme have war! I hate hypocrisy!
Go and kill or get killed we will settle our disparities peacefully! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 2:54pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. Bro, what scenario did Serena have that she received alternative blood transfusion? Even the doctors in the US would tell you there are limitations to those alternatives and being in a reseource poor environment like Nigeria, you won't have it handy. Take for example Erythropoietin and iron sucrose . Its very costly and thus not easily available. It costs 40k to 50k weekly. And given 2x weekly. And guess what, this is for chronic anemia which happens in kidney disease or cancer.
In acute anemia, you need blood, straight up . Ask any doctor you meet. Also ask your Kingdom hall pastors(or whatever you call them),if they are honest, they'll tell you its not indicated in all cases of blood loss or anemia.
2. When you say White Supremacist gave us crap I laugh at you. Are those 8 bald headed vultures in the US that control your brain cells blacks? But if they tell you, "Max stop eating" you'll gladly ask them "for how many days?"
Unfortunately I'm not built that way. I have a thinking machine sitting on my neck. I ask questions.
Also those 'White Supremacists' gave us modern medicine. The thing with medicine is it works in any part of the world you are in. So you cant use a different drug for different ailments. Its the same. The issue is availability. There are better blood alternatives in the US, even though they take the place of real blood. But those alternatives aren't available for the average Nigerian here..
Your Serena Williams didn't have those scenarios I listed there, so please shove your ignorance where the sun don't shine
Oga, STOP LYING. grin grin
Speaking from experience, this happened early last year.
In a reputable Hospital, my younger one was diagnosed with acute anemia (caused by a serious health issue undetected before then) & she was treated successfully without BT.
JWs already know what to do before emergencies arise,we have mechanisms to address this matter.
But, sometimes, some of us may delay in taking swift action at the appropriate time....


Oga, JWs would love to cooperate with you & ensure our JW brothers receive the best of health care you can provide,of course without BT.

Would you welcome this initiative?
Pls, let me know.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:54pm On Apr 14, 2023
Maynman:
Same deity, Different doctrines bwahahahaha
That's part of what got me to deconvert. Christianity alone has thousands of splinter denominations, each saying their own pot of soup is the best, and claiming the rest would burn in hell. I debated with myself, being a Christian isn't even enough, so I have to be in the right sect to earn the Pearly Gates ticket.
So if I make the wrong choice of sect, I'd still burn in hell like the rest of Muslims, Buddhists etc. And all because Yahweh sent us his book which contains stupid contradictions and barefaced lies. And this book spawned lots of denominations and splinter groups.
Eventually I got my answer. It was all made for human control grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:58pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The only way to help a REAL JW get out of the organization is to present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses.
For instance try to agree on terms and conditions of worship with tctrills then come back to me and prove that you guys aren't confused! Luke 11:23 cheesy
Whenever you catch out Max in a debate, this is his mantra. And he loves it. Even though its false and a lie, its not his problem cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Whenever you catch out Max in a debate, this is his mantra. And he loves it. Even though its false and a lie, its not his problem cheesy
Guy see those having your mindset to kill and get killed due to disparities then compare to those who have vowed never to participate in killing due to disparities!

I believe those amputees have gained a lot fighting against those with whom they supposed to settle matters amicably! grin

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:05pm On Apr 14, 2023
So now you've become wise by trashing all yet you still have the mind to go on killing and getting killed due to disparities.
I just want to believe you're now wiser! cheesy

jaephoenix:
That's part of what got me to deconvert. Christianity alone has thousands of splinter denominations, each saying their own pot of soup is the best, and claiming the rest would burn in hell. I debated with myself, being a Christian isn't even enough, so I have to be in the right sect to earn the Pearly Gates ticket.
So if I make the wrong choice of sect, I'd still burn in hell like the rest of Muslims, Buddhists etc. And all because Yahweh sent us his book which contains stupid contradictions and barefaced lies. And this book spawned lots of denominations and splinter groups.
Eventually I got my answer. It was all made for human control grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 3:05pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
That's part of what got me to deconvert. Christianity alone has thousands of splinter denominations, each saying their own pot of soup is the best, and claiming the rest would burn in hell. I debated with myself, being a Christian isn't even enough, so I have to be in the right sect to earn the Pearly Gates ticket.
So if I make the wrong choice of sect, I'd still burn in hell like the rest of Muslims, Buddhists etc. And all because Yahweh sent us his book which contains stupid contradictions and barefaced lies. [/b]And this book spawned lots of denominations and splinter groups.
[b]Eventually I got my answer. It was all made for human control ;[/b]D
[b]Oh I see, you are a Atheist.

You got your answer from your imperfect fellow man who claims he knows better grin grin grin grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:08pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:
Your bias against Jehovah's witnesses is very luminous.

How was the step mother's sexual abuse of her son settled in 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13?

Is the Law not dynamic?
Rather than update your knowledge on how such matters are handled, you choose to express your prejudice & ignorance forming woke. grin

This is the Bible passage you ignorantly posted.

1.It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife.
2. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[a] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you

As you can see, Paul (or whoever) said you should not associate with heathens. But here you are, a JW bigot, using internet, food, electricity, phone etc all made by heathens. You even gladly accept money from gambling organizations but hide the fact.
Also the passage says to cast out, expunge and expel the wicked amongst you. Are you doing that? No. Instead what do you do? You hide those child molesters and tell the authorities you'll deal with it internally, which you only give the person a slap on the wrist.
As an atheist, I really find it embarrassing teaching 'christians' their own bible
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:09pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:
Oh I see, you are a Atheist.
You got your answer from your imperfect fellow man who claims he knows better grin grin grin grin
He's judgemental so even though he knows he is not perfect he demands perfection from others in order to convince himself that God exists but by the end of the day he's back to square one: ready to kill or get killed due to matters that JWs are settling peacefully! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:15pm On Apr 14, 2023
Chai! See person brain o! grin

jaephoenix:
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[a] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you

As you can see, Paul (or whoever) said you should not associate with heathens. But here you are, a JW bigot, using internet, food, electricity, phone etc all made by heathens. You even gladly accept money from gambling organizations but hide the fact.
Ọmọ go and reread the highlighted!

It says we're not to shun people who doesn't believe but those who claims they are believers in our faith yet turn to such practices.

Guy your anger is rendering you blind jọọ! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:15pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:

Your colleagues have been managing emergency situations without the medical option you prefer,do they have two heads?

Is your preferred option, the only form of medical treatment recommended & APPROVED by your colleagues & by the Law ?

Oga ,go & update your skills,stop this prejudice in public.
Haba !!!



Go and learn from your medical colleagues & leverage on your Competence.

Why do you rather than expose your bias and prejudice against people you have taken an oath of professionalism to treat without prejudice?
Lol.
So bro, can you ask those hallowed colleagues how they have been managing acute blood loss through exsanguination(carotid/femoral laceration) , severe Post Partum Hemorrhage, Severe Neonatal Jaundice etc, all without blood transfusion.
You can give me links here of such researches and management protocols. Thank you cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:18pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:
Oga,stop eating and drinking water until the month ends.

Your applying this option would build your blood volume/count tremendously.

Ozuo
grin
I used to think Max was the densest of you lots but it looks like there's a new challenger to that Densest of the Dense Throne.
What has stopping to drink and eat got to do with blood or blood transfusion? undecided
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 3:19pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Bro, don't even go there. Blood transfusion literally gives life.
1. That's woman bleeding from Post Partum Hemorrhage would instantly open her eyes when you hang blood on her. Once you hang the blood and continue the uterine massage and hang your oxycotin drip in the other hand, she is safe.
2. That man that has a lacerated spleen or liver(the commonly damaged internal organs during road accidents) or carotid gets to love once blood is one with crystalloids also infusing. While you wheel to the theater for the explorative laparotomy
3. Once that baby that has severe jaundice receives the exchange blood transfusion, s/he would be active, skin color changes and life comes back.
I just remembered one JW with post partum hemorrhage, that was begging her hubby not to let her die while she bled out. I wanted to cry.
The hubby just stood looking. See eh, forget, religion is a crime. Whoever invented it is the real devil. This man stood watching his wife die because of what some 8 balded idiots in the US said
1 & 3
The same treatment that couldn't save the mother of Arthur Ashe & thousands of pregnant women in the UK.

2.

Your colleagues who manage similar emergencies successfully without BT, do they have two heads?

Oga, respect the rights of your patient.
You have already formed a prejudice against them & this prejudice must colour your assessment and management of their case.


Because of his bias,so called doctor dey yarn as if.....

grin grin

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:20pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Sorry with your scenario i'm not interested! cheesy
Exactly what I thought. Dude is severely outta his depth. Where is Janosky and Aemyjah? Man down, man down grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol.
So bro, can you ask those hallowed colleagues how they have been managing acute blood loss through exsanguination(carotid/femoral laceration) , severe Post Partum Hemorrhage, Severe Neonatal Jaundice etc, all without blood transfusion.
You can give me links here of such researches and management protocols. Thank you cheesy
Ọmọ there are many alternative remedies for blood loss but since you've been programmed to think it's only by transfusing blood i pity those that paid your school fees because they have lost all their deposits.
Intelligent people makes good use of information not arguing blindly simply because you want to make a point against those you hate.
JWs don't use blood transfusion and millions stick to it throughout the world if you're truly a wise physician now is the time to add to your knowledge by finding out how JWs do manage such situations without using blood.
Not just arguing stupidly for no gain.

Whether you accept or not JWs won't accept blood transfusion so instead of sitting down in your room arguing blindly now is the time to update your knowledge regarding what to do during blood loss! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Exactly what I thought. Dude is severely outta his depth. Where is Janosky and Aemyjah? Man down, man down grin
Go for update on what you think you're practicing, that's why many love our AWAKE magazines because they learn a lot not just arguing blindly due to hatred.
If truly you're into physiology then this is the time to upgrade not sticking to the old info! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:27pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're a real novice! cheesy

JWs have all what it takes to rescue any patient without blood transfusion but since your brains has been programmed to think blood transfusion can save you i'll allow you continue in your folly.
Whatever kills a patient with our alternative remedies will surely kill anyone whether you infuse blood into their nose or brains! wink
So what blood substitute or non-blood maneuver can you use for exchange blood transfusion in a baby with severe neonatal jaundice with kernicterus, or a woman bleeding to death with post partum hemorrhage, or a man who has his carotids slashed in a fight
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:28pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Go and kill or get killed we will settle our disparities peacefully! cheesy
You're funny. Are you aware without a sovereign army, your sorrounding enemies can invade you? By the way what has this rubbish you typed got to do with the hypocrisy I talked about?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:35pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:
Oga, STOP LYING. grin grin
Speaking from experience, this happened early last year.
In a reputable Hospital, my younger one was diagnosed with [b]acute anemia (caused by a serious health issue undetected before then)
& she was treated successfully without BT.
JWs already know what to do before emergencies arise,we have mechanisms to address this matter.
But, sometimes, some of us may delay in taking swift action at the appropriate time....


Oga, JWs would love to cooperate with you & ensure our JW brothers receive the best of health care you can provide,of course without BT.

Would you welcome this initiative?
Pls, let me know.[/b]
Bro, what your brother had was chronic anemia, not acute. Once someone has anemia due to a chronic disease, it is chronic. Example of such disease in our environment is tuberculosis and chrnic kidney disease . In such cases, you use erythropoietin and iron sucrose, hemacel etc. You can even give the patient hematinics like iron tablets, folic acid if the PCV(Packed Cell Volume) is more than 25%(if he is not a sickle cell anemia patient).
If you ask your brother to tell you what exactly was his diagnosis, you'll understand.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:37pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy see those having your mindset to kill and get killed due to disparities then compare to those who have vowed never to participate in killing due to disparities!

I believe those amputees have gained a lot fighting against those with whom they supposed to settle matters amicably! grin
Bro, strife and war is a normal human product. You JW has strifes. Stop all this propaganda. It doesn't work with smart people
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:38pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So now you've become wise by trashing all yet you still have the mind to go on killing and getting killed due to disparities.
I just want to believe you're now wiser! cheesy
Put on your glasses and reread my deposition. Did you see anywhere I killed anybody?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:38pm On Apr 14, 2023
Janosky:
Oh I see, you are a Atheist.

You got your answer from your imperfect fellow man who claims he knows better grin grin grin grin
If you say so
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:39pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He's judgemental so even though he knows he is not perfect he demands perfection from others in order to convince himself that God exists but by the end of the day he's back to square one: ready to kill or get killed due to matters that JWs are settling peacefully! cheesy
I never demanded perfection from anyone. You're the one painting JWs as a perfect organization without strife. I was merely debunking that narrative
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 3:41pm On Apr 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Chai! See person brain o! grin



Ọmọ go and reread the highlighted!

It says we're not to shun people who doesn't believe but those who claims they are believers in our faith yet turn to such practices.

Guy your anger is rendering you blind jọọ! cheesy
That's not the point of that passage your colleague posted, was it? He was defending you guys action of harboring rapists and molesters
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:57pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
Bro, strife and war is a normal human product. You JW has strifes. Stop all this propaganda. It doesn't work with smart people
Ọmọ wars starts from unresolved disparities but JWs have destroyed that in our midst.
If you're judgmental you can't remain in our midst because we don't judge rather we help sinners it's when a sinner refused to accept help that we shun them. That's why you see many judgmental people like you accusing us that we shield sinners whereas we pity them when they repent and turn around.

That's the difference between JWs and you who will continue agitating until you gather judgmental people like yourself, get weapons and start killing yourselves! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:58pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
So what blood substitute or non-blood maneuver can you use for exchange blood transfusion in a baby with severe neonatal jaundice with kernicterus, or a woman bleeding to death with post partum hemorrhage, or a man who has his carotids slashed in a fight
Go and make research if truly it's your field! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:00pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
You're funny. Are you aware without a sovereign army, your sorrounding enemies can invade you? By the way what has this rubbish you typed got to do with the hypocrisy I talked about?
This is where you goofed big time!

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m):
jaephoenix:
Put on your glasses and reread my deposition. Did you see anywhere I killed anybody?
But you prefer war to settling matters peacefully:

jaephoenix:
If hiding the impunities and atrocities of your fellow Witnesses qualifies as peace loving, then lemme have war! I hate hypocrisy!
So you're a prospective killer! cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Apr 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
I never demanded perfection from anyone. You're the one painting JWs as a perfect organization without strife. I was merely debunking that narrative
Good!
JW organization is perfect not individuals in the group so learn to decipher what an imperfect individual will do when he finds out that nobody will support him to fight against his neighbour due to disparities! wink
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