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jaephoenix:
That's not the point of that passage your colleague posted, was it? He was defending you guys action of harboring rapists and molesters

MaxInDHouse:
But you prefer war to settling matters peacefully:


So you're a prospective killer!

jaephoenix:
That's not the point of that passage your colleague posted, was it? He was defending you guys action of harboring rapists and molesters.

jaephoenix:
Lol. This makes my day. Again lol.
I would have stopped engaging you for the health of my brain cells, but I'm torn between comedy and health.
1. There are what we call indications for alternative blood transfusion. Indications mean instances where they are given. Acute blood loss requires blood, especially in this part of the world. If you Max(in Nigeria), have an acute blood loss and request for artificial blood instead of real blood, you'll surely bleed to death. No caps. Even though they are trying to make better blood substitutes, they are not readily available in Nigeria due to our problems. So what are you gonna do?
2. If you can read, which I doubt you do, you'll see there has been research on going for blood substitutes since the 15th century, well before JW rascals came on this earth. And this researches have been providing blood substitutes which is almost like the real blood (but not quite). And they keep on doing their work. So which JW taught them? Do you guys even fund any of those researches?
I don't feel like cussing you out but keep on exposing your ignorance for my risible pleasure.

Janosky:
1 & 3
The same treatment that couldn't save the mother of Arthur Ashe & thousands of pregnant women in the UK.

2.

Your colleagues who manage similar emergencies successfully without BT, do they have two heads?

Oga, respect the rights of your patient.
You have already formed a prejudice against them & this prejudice must colour your assessment and management of their case.


Because of his bias,so called doctor dey yarn as if.....

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there are many alternative remedies for blood loss but since you've been programmed to think it's only by transfusing blood i pity those that paid your school fees because they have lost all their deposits.
Intelligent people makes good use of information not arguing blindly simply because you want to make a point against those you hate.
JWs don't use blood transfusion and millions stick to it throughout the world if you're truly a wise physician now is the time to add to your knowledge by finding out how JWs do manage such situations without using blood.
Not just arguing stupidly for no gain.

Whether you accept or not JWs won't accept blood transfusion so instead of sitting down in your room arguing blindly now is the time to update your knowledge regarding what to do during blood loss!

jaephoenix:
I listed 3 scenarios up there and have asked you to show me how blood transfusion subs can be used foe them, but you have been bleating like a pregnant goat, like your colleague Janosky, that there are alternatives. And you still have the mind of accusing me of arguing blindly
Nobody is saying blood substitutes dont work. I never said they don't work. I gave you scenarios where they are utterly useless. But your brainwashing was so severe you don't understand those scenarios.
Can you use erythropoietin for a baby with severe jaundice? No! What an about bleeding emeegencies? Without blood, you'll rely on plasma expanders like crystalloids but they are temporary. You still need blood. So ask your JW docs to give me a readily available substitute and stop ranting like a demented banshee

MaxInDHouse:
At least millions across the globe have learned to become peacelovers through what we preach and teach!

Janosky:
Today he claims to save lives, tomorrow he's a prospective killer

jaephoenix:
I listed 3 scenarios up there and have asked you to show me how blood transfusion subs can be used foe them, but you have been bleating like a pregnant goat, like your colleague Janosky, that there are alternatives. And you still have the mind of accusing me of arguing blindly
Nobody is saying blood substitutes dont work. I never said they don't work. I gave you scenarios where they are utterly useless. But your brainwashing was so severe you don't understand those scenarios.
Can you use erythropoietin for a baby with severe jaundice? No! What a about bleeding emeegencies? Without blood, you'll rely on plasma expanders like crystalloids but they are temporary. You still need blood. So ask your JW docs to give me a readily available substitute and stop ranting like a demented banshee

KnownUnknown:
If someone is stupid enough to refuse blood transfusion when needed because of the opinion of eight bastards in some shithole town in New York, let them!

tctrills:
That's a topic for another day. There is no good excuse for a false teaching

MaxInDHouse:
If with all your arguments you can't present a fruit of your faith then all your arguments are worthless! Matthew 7:16-18

MaxInDHouse:
If with all your arguments you can't present a fruit of your faith then all your arguments are worthless! Matthew 7:16-18

tctrills:
I have nothing to present to you but the truth as found in the gospel and if the fruit of your faith is dishonesty and guesswork then it's the case of the pot calling the kettle black

bobestman:
guy abeg help me with the phone no of the leader of your scamming organisation. I wan ask am where he get the spell he take bound una brains to make una this stupid and foolish

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is that you are human as i am and both of us are quoting the same book but interpreting it differently so if you say i'm being dishonest that's exactly what I also feel about you.
So who will settle this matter?
Well i believe it's the Son of the Author {John 3:16} through whose office humans were inspired to pen down these things! John 1:1
He declared that for anyone to gain the accurate knowledge of what was written the first thing to do is read these words carefully, study diligently, meditate thoroughly and pray fervently! Proverbs 2:1-5
But dishonest and insincere humans will also claim they have done all that so what will be the sign that honest hearted and sincere ones need to see in order to be certain that they are getting things right?
He promised saying: By their FRUITS you will recognize each gathering of imperfect humans {Matthew 7:16-18} because their sinful flesh is powerful much more than them {Romans 7:15-25} so the gathering of dishonest and insincere humans will be characterized by the works of their flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} while the gathering of honest hearted and sincere people will be controlled by God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
So by the time the gathering of imperfect humans who are gaining accurate knowledge of God are performing up to expectations {Isaiah 2:2-4} the gathering of imperfect humans who have no understanding will be turn apart as they won't agree on terms and conditions of worship! Luke 11:23
Today you keep arguing claiming you're quoting God's word but instead of presenting a practical application so we can consider the benefits of your interpretation you just feel that's not needed. Well i will present to the whole world the group that's applying what i'm saying in a practical sense (Jehovah's Witnesses) as they have formed one big and happy family {John 17:22} of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} as foretold by Christ Jesus the Son of God!
That is the one and only living evidence Jesus promised us that we will see if we are doing things right! Mark 10:28-30

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is that you are human as i am and both of us are quoting the same book but interpreting it differently so if you say i'm being dishonest that's exactly what I also feel about you.
So who will settle this matter?
Well i believe it's the Son of the Author {John 3:16} through whose office humans were inspired to pen down these things! John 1:1
He declared that for anyone to gain the accurate knowledge of what was written the first thing to do is read these words carefully, study diligently, meditate thoroughly and pray fervently! Proverbs 2:1-5
But dishonest and insincere humans will also claim they have done all that so what will be the sign that honest hearted and sincere ones need to see in order to be certain that they are getting things right?
He promised saying: By their FRUITS you will recognize each gathering of imperfect humans {Matthew 7:16-18} because their sinful flesh is powerful much more than them {Romans 7:15-25} so the gathering of dishonest and insincere humans will be characterized by the works of their flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} while the gathering of honest hearted and sincere people will be controlled by God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
So by the time the gathering of imperfect humans who are gaining accurate knowledge of God are performing up to expectations {Isaiah 2:2-4} the gathering of imperfect humans who have no understanding will be turn apart as they won't agree on terms and conditions of worship! Luke 11:23
Today you keep arguing claiming you're quoting God's word but instead of presenting a practical application so we can consider the benefits of your interpretation you just feel that's not needed. Well i will present to the whole world the group that's applying what i'm saying in a practical sense (Jehovah's Witnesses) as they have formed one big and happy family {John 17:22} of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} as foretold by Christ Jesus the Son of God!
That is the one and only living evidence Jesus promised us that we will see if we are doing things right! Mark 10:28-30

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is that you are human as i am and both of us are quoting the same book but interpreting it differently so if you say i'm being dishonest that's exactly what I also feel about you.
So who will settle this matter?
Well i believe it's the Son of the Author {John 3:16} through whose office humans were inspired to pen down these things! John 1:1
He declared that for anyone to gain the accurate knowledge of what was written the first thing to do is read these words carefully, study diligently, meditate thoroughly and pray fervently! Proverbs 2:1-5
But dishonest and insincere humans will also claim they have done all that so what will be the sign that honest hearted and sincere ones need to see in order to be certain that they are getting things right?
He promised saying: By their FRUITS you will recognize each gathering of imperfect humans {Matthew 7:16-18} because their sinful flesh is powerful much more than them {Romans 7:15-25} so the gathering of dishonest and insincere humans will be characterized by the works of their flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} while the gathering of honest hearted and sincere people will be controlled by God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
So by the time the gathering of imperfect humans who are gaining accurate knowledge of God are performing up to expectations {Isaiah 2:2-4} the gathering of imperfect humans who have no understanding will be turn apart as they won't agree on terms and conditions of worship! Luke 11:23
Today you keep arguing claiming you're quoting God's word but instead of presenting a practical application so we can consider the benefits of your interpretation you just feel that's not needed. Well i will present to the whole world the group that's applying what i'm saying in a practical sense (Jehovah's Witnesses) as they have formed one big and happy family {John 17:22} of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} as foretold by Christ Jesus the Son of God!
That is the one and only living evidence Jesus promised us that we will see if we are doing things right! Mark 10:28-30

MaxInDHouse:
Go for update on what you think you're practicing, that's why many love our AWAKE magazines because they learn a lot not just arguing blindly due to hatred.
If truly you're into physiology then this is the time to upgrade not sticking to the old info!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ wars starts from unresolved disparities but JWs have destroyed that in our midst.
If you're judgmental you can't remain in our midst because we don't judge rather we help sinners it's when a sinner refused to accept help that we shun them. That's why you see many judgmental people like you accusing us that we shield sinners whereas we pity them when they repent and turn around.

That's the difference between JWs and you who will continue agitating until you gather judgmental people like yourself, get weapons and start killing yourselves!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and make research if truly it's your field!

MaxInDHouse:
This is where you goofed big time!

MaxInDHouse:
But you prefer war to settling matters peacefully:



So you're a prospective killer!

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
JW organization is perfect not individuals in the group so learn to decipher what an imperfect individual will do when he finds out that nobody will support him to fight against his neighbour due to disparities!

jaephoenix:
You know, when you add ignorance to stupidity, you end up with a very volatile mixture.
1. This is just an example of the side effects of half knowledge.
Listen. There is no drug, vaccine, procedure, operation etc in this world without a side effect. None. Even your paracetamol that you abuse can give you liver disease and kill you. The vitamin C you also abuse can cause kidney stones and kidney failure. Does it mean everyone that take Vit C and paracetamol can have all those? Hell no! But the risk is there depending on the dose and what we call idiosyncratic reactions. I had a patient who had permanent darkening of her whole body from just taking paracetamol. And no, it wasn't a fake one. Its just how her body metabolized the drug. I can as well post side effects of paracetamol and warn everyone not to take it.
What's my point? Would you rather avoid drugs, vaccines, surgeries, blood transfusions etc because there may be side effects? No! We try to make these drugs as safe as possible and prescribe the right doses. For blood transfusions, the risks are there from infections, electrolyte ish etc but as years go by, we make them safer via better screening processes. The screenshots about BT causing cancers and heart attacks are so far-fetched they are negligible. I have practiced for 16 years, with countless blood transfusions. Yet the only issue I have had is febrile reactions which resolved after a while.

Oga,go & update your medical professional skills and STOP abusing your prospective patients on this forum.

Is BT the only form of medical treatment?
No !

You claim to be a medical doctor but are very biased & insult JWs for choosing a form of
Medical treatment APPROVED by medical services & recognised by Law.
Oga,You are telling this forum that you NEVER Sabi blood less medical practice by your insults & bias expressed on this forum.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're judgmental!

JW organization is strict but we handle matters with caution because we are all imperfect so if anyone is found wanting in our midst as long as the matter is within we punish the person according to what the Bible states but you won't know. So instead of expecting JWs to come and call you to stone our brother or sister who committed a blunder why not go and settle matters among your own people so the world can be peaceful?
We can manage our own and maintain peace if all others can do the same think of how the world will be?

Janosky:
I asked you a question:
"Is the Law not dynamic?"
Oga don't be TWISTING my post with your FALSE claim.

@ 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13 did Jesus followers cover up the sin of sexual abuse between step mother and son?

Pls wear your goggles and read 1Corinthians 5:1-2, 9-13 again.

jaephoenix:
So Mr. Non-Judgemental Max, lets assume this scenario. You have a witness bro that has molested and killed 7 women, and despite several cautions he still continues.
How do you settle this amongst yourself? I need a direct answer not this heehaws you and your ilk have been gracing us with

jaephoenix:
Now lets talk about blood substitutes. Adverse effects associated with hemoglobin-based oxygen carrier blood susbtitutes include hypertension, abdominal pain, skin rash, diarrhea, jaundice, hemoglobinuria, oliguria, fever, stroke, and laboratory anomalies such as an elevation in lipase levels etc. Adverse effects of erythropoietin, another blood substitute is hypertension and stroke. Also due to the delayed onset of erythropoiesis, it is contraindicated for acute correction of severe anemia or emergency transfusion. [/b]It should be used cautiously with patients who have a history of seizures. In patients with cancer receiving hormonal agents, biologic products, or radiotherapy.
Now whats the use of blood substitute if its side effect profile are similar to actual blood, and its also very costly and unavailable, add to that, it can't be used in all emergencies?
Ignorant peeps like you think we docs hate blood substitutes. Lol. I don't have anything against it. But if there is a more readily available, better and cheaper option, why not get it?