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baralatie:
Apostolic is su grade 1 (for the real ones o.and the serious ones don't marry outside apostolic)
So I don't expect an issue in that marriage unless other factors are creeping in and disguise as

This issue ehn it can go either way, I have a friend he was Mfm when he married, he said his wife said she can't be in a church without being a worker and Mfm doctrine is no jewelries trouser perming etcetc and she doesn't believe in not using those things, she can't pretend and so she can't stay in the church. The guy kuku joined her in RCCG. I think he's now a minister there sef.

The challenge would have been if this guy was a pastor or minister in Mfm what would have happened? Because he would see her reason as flimsy and think like what's in jewelries that you can't do without?

Originalsly:
Blame the woman. Why not the man? ... isn't he the one that chose the wife? ... Didn't he know the wife belongs to a different church?.. and if he marries her they would be unequally yoked? ... and doesn't the Bible specifically say don't be unequally yoked? So how can she be the cause of problems in the family? Isn't he the one that built his house on sand instead of solid rock? ... and when the house comes crashing down you blame the wife? Bro .... all those scriptures are irrelevant ... the one that really matters with regard to your topic is do not be unequally yoked. women can be rightfully blamed for a whole lot of stuff ... but not this one.

"God hates divorce"... really? God of love is also a hater. Why would He hate divorce when He has made provision for it? Was He the one that have people swearing at marriage until death do us part?

No wonder you are asking questions that were answered by the scriptures. You need to go and read to have knowledge.

He made the provisions because of stiff-necked people who would not read and work towards doing the will of God.

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

Your point is actually pointless. Unequally yoked with who, a Christian or a non Christian?
Who is an unbeliever according to the bible? Did they teach you that your husband who is a Christian in another church is an unbeliever? So if this is your only point, then you have no point.

You need to start reading those things you called irrelevant to gain knowledge and do the will of God. This is the same some women will they are on the right path not knowing they are not really holding unto anything.

paxonel:
But why is it that, when a Muslim woman who is married to a Christian man decides to go to mosque the husband will not see it as issue. But when a Christian woman tells her husband i don't want to go to your church, it becomes a problem?

Why are churches competing among themselves for nothing?

The union shouldn't have been in the first place. There must be agreement all sides before marriage

baralatie:
If you married someone as a man from another church,faith,sect then you as a man is the key problem here.
And I don't see the reason for you as a man now turning your house into a war zone

How is the man a problem? Did they not teach the woman to be submissive to her husband?

Unless you are saying the man knew and willingly married a disobedient woman. Whether he knew or now, a disobedient woman who strives with her husband is wasting her time going to God. The scriptures are there.

Boomark:
Many women today are the cause of the problems in their families because they have insisted on attending a church different from their husband's church. This has led to divorce/separation between husbands and wives.

What women don't know is that they are on their own before God. God hates such act of disobedience. As long as your husband didn't say you should not worship God. I will point out why it is wrong with bible verses.

1. True worshippers of God worship him in spirit and truth. These are the people that God is looking for. Not those that destroy what God has joined together because they are looking for God on a mountain, in a temple, or church. God is a spirit and is everywhere, even in your room. Jesus told us what God wants from those seeking Him in John 4:20-24.
Matthew 6:6.

God hates divorce/separation as seen in Malachi 2: 16, Matthew 19:3-9, Mark 10:2-12. Divorce is the word used for separation between husband and wife. If you are a pastor, prophet, prophetess, or a wife that breaks home because of ministry, church or mountain prayers, you have a case to answer before God on the judgement day. The warning... Matthew 19:5-8, Ephesians 5:31-33.

2. Obedience to the will of God is better than any sacrifice you think you are making for God in disobedience to your head/husband. Saul was rejected by God as king because he thought that offering fat rams to God in a temple(worship) is better than the instruction God gave. 1 Samuel 15:3, 20-23.

3. Any pastor, prophet, or prophetess who knew but kept encouraging you to keep attending his church or ministry which is causing problem between you and your husband is practising lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23. These things are not a guarantee of being right with God. Overzealousness is nothing. The will of God is above everything.

Even though they prophecy in his name, cast out demons in his name, and perform many signs and wonders in his name, they will be rejected by God on the last day. Same with the overzealous disobedient wife. Do not be deceived.

4. If your husband has this issue against you and you think by being too zealous for God that he will accept you, you are wrong and on your own. You cannot appear before God with sin as a disobedient wife who is striving with her husband and expect God to accept your work, gift, or sacrifice in the church or ministry you attend. Before God will accept you anywhere, you must go and make peace with your husband first. See it here in Matthew 5:23-24.

5. They tell you there is no husband in heaven but they won't tell you there is no church in heaven. They won't tell you that you must give account of what you did with your husband on earth before they allow you pass through the gate of heaven. If not, you are going nowhere. God only desire those that will worship him in spirit and truth wherever they are.

Know this, that if you move from one church to another, it will not be used against you on the judgment day. But when you move from one husband to another, or abandon the one that married you, you have a case to answer. God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. So if your desire to worship with a particular pastor, church, or ministry is making you to do what God hates, then you will have yourself to blame on the day of judgement.

6. This is what it means to love God, that you keep his commandments and yet his commandments are not burdensome. His will that you seek to do is not a burden that can cause problem and separation between husband and wife, Deuteronomy 30:11-14, 1 John 5:3. What he desire from us is simple, see also Micah 6:7-8.

The purest and undefiled form of religion/worship before God is to help the orphans, widows, and to stay away from worldly things, James 1:27.

7. Let no man judge you because of keeping the Sabbath day for it ts not a requirement for going to heaven, Col 2:16-17.

Submit to your husband and have deep respect for him, Ephesians 5:22-24, 1 Peter 3:1-2, 5-6.

If you are a pastor, prophet, or prophetess, and you have a member who is having such issue with her husband, it is better to do the needful accordingly to what is written in Matthew 5:23-24. Let them go make peace first with husbands and come clean before God for worship.

Even if it means they won't come back, at least you are not guilty of causing division and breaking what God has joined together.

Nigerians and stupidities......

baralatie:
Apostle Paul himself has written on this issue and it was straight forward.
It was not a do or die


If the unbelieving oarther depart no problem
If the unbelieving partner stay better


The grace of the believing partner covers the other


But the real issue is when Apostle Paul teachings on Marriage and responsibilities.
If you do not understand it.then you will be in shock and difficult corners trying to manoveu

Who is an unbelieving partner here?

A man going to Assemblies of God or his wife going to Deeper life?

Straight forward answer is needed as you said.

tricosite:
My problem is not attending the same church.
My question ❓ is why do we have different Churches?.

Doctrine is what brought about the different churches we have. Different doctrines from different churches.

papertrail:
I beg to differ on no 7.Keeping the Sabbath is a condition for making heaven

Do the differ with scripture let's see.

Everyone marry from their denominations

If you're from Deeper Life , marry your sis in peace , same as RCCG , CAC, Winners etc .

You guys like creating unnecessary problems where there's none and how many men are even attending church services these days , dem don see road chase yansh and breast finish , na church con remain .

Las las everybody go dey alright.

Boomark:
How is the man a problem? Did they not teach the woman to be submissive to her husband?

Unless you are saying the man knew and willingly married a disobedient woman. Whether he knew or now, a disobedient woman who strives with her husband is wasting her time going to God. The scriptures are there.

If a man who is a believer of his faith and sect as correct,marries into a faith and sect that he believes is not correct.
Is that man not disobedient to his faith

Boomark:
Who is an unbelieving partner here?

A man going to Assemblies of God or his wife going to Deeper life?

Straight forward answer is needed as you said.

Do the husband and wife see themselves as the same believers in faith?

NoToPile:
This issue ehn it can go either way, I have a friend he was Mfm when he married, he said his wife said she can't be in a church without being a worker and Mfm doctrine is no jewelries trouser perming etcetc and she doesn't believe in not using those things, she can't pretend and so she can't stay in the church. The guy kuku joined her in RCCG. I think he's now a minister there sef.

The challenge would have been if this guy was a pastor or minister in Mfm what would have happened? Because he would see her reason as flimsy and think like what's in jewelries that you can't do without?

The catch is what you noted
Imagine if the mfm pastor said he wanted to marry from House on the rock. or the woman is a worker from pastor Chris oyakhilomes church .

They will discuss a whole lot of issues

TheGift:
Before asking the Woman to Obey the Man, is the Man obeying God? Before asking His Woman to submit to Him, has the Man submitted to God?

If He has submitted to God, then He will focus on the major of loving and cherishing His Wife as Christ loved the Church, by giving up himself and sacrificing for her. Rather than majoring in the minor of whether she comes to His church or not.

As long as they are both going to Bible believing churches, they can come back home to fellowship and share what they learnt from
Their various churches, and there will be peace in the home.

There is no excuse for not doing the will of God. Those who were doing signs and wonders in the name of the Lord were rejected for not doing the will of God, how much more someone that is looking at a man before he or she does the will of God.

You must be submissive to your head as Christ is the head of the church. You don't tell him to focus only on loving you and avoid things that will make you obey him.

My dear if he has issue with you going to another church, don't waste your time going to church. You are not pleasing God but your pastor who you want to notice your coming. And you cannot preach to God that the man is not submissive to him. Both of you are in error. You can only save yourself by doing the will of God. You can pray for him to change his mind and with your good conduct.

baralatie:
The catch is what you noted
Imagine if the mfm pastor said he wanted to marry from House on the rock. or the woman is a worker from pastor Chris oyakhilomes church .

They will discuss a whole lot of issues

A whole lot of issues fa!

Mimicle101:
If only most of our wifes and young ladies could watch and listen to to

16 April 2023 Sunday Service message


By Prohpet Amos Child of God of Jesus Christ Temple Ministry


Believe me many marriages and homes will be saved.

I encourage everyone to listen to these man of God teachings once.

Then come back and tell your thought.

May God have mercy on Us.

Where can I see the message?

NoToPile:
A whole lot of issues fa!

That one is even small
The one that will shake congregation is when Jehovah witnesses member say he want to marry catholic.
Ehn!
Wahala

You can only disobey your husband if and when he ask you to do what is sinful before God.

Boomark:
It could be that they had an agreement before marriage. I don't know about Muslims, I wrote as a Christian.

As Christians If the man say no, there is nothing she can do about it except she can make him change his mind through prayers and good conduct.

Why will an adult stop another adult from going to where she derive joy and completeness.

Boomark:
Where can I see the message?

Today Sunday service is ended.

But you can search for it on youtube.

Search for

Jesus Christ temple Ministry on youtube. Look for today's message.

baralatie:
You are dodging the problem

My answer is glaring, "religion doesn't matter".
Wisdom is what matters ultimately.

adekolly2003:
pls don't get it wrong as a woman when you marry a man different from your Religion automatically you have to change your religion, except the man agreed for you to practice your religion, though am saying this from Africa perspective

you know, the thing about Africans that will always make make them inferior to modernity?
The man is the one that requested to marry the woman and her religion and the woman agreed. After the marriage, it is the man that will agree for the woman to practice the religion she want.

Isn't that slavery to women?

Boomark:
Many women today are the cause of the problems in their families because they have insisted on attending a church different from their husband's church. This has led to divorce/separation between husbands and wives.

What women don't know is that they are on their own before God. God hates such act of disobedience. As long as your husband didn't say you should not worship God. I will point out why it is wrong with bible verses.

1. True worshippers of God worship him in spirit and truth. These are the people that God is looking for. Not those that destroy what God has joined together because they are looking for God on a mountain, in a temple, or church. God is a spirit and is everywhere, even in your room. Jesus told us what God wants from those seeking Him in John 4:20-24.
Matthew 6:6.

God hates divorce/separation as seen in Malachi 2: 16, Matthew 19:3-9, Mark 10:2-12. Divorce is the word used for separation between husband and wife. If you are a pastor, prophet, prophetess, or a wife that breaks home because of ministry, church or mountain prayers, you have a case to answer before God on the judgement day. The warning... Matthew 19:5-8, Ephesians 5:31-33.

2. Obedience to the will of God is better than any sacrifice you think you are making for God in disobedience to your head/husband. Saul was rejected by God as king because he thought that offering fat rams to God in a temple(worship) is better than the instruction God gave. 1 Samuel 15:3, 20-23.

3. Any pastor, prophet, or prophetess who knew but kept encouraging you to keep attending his church or ministry which is causing problem between you and your husband is practising lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23. These things are not a guarantee of being right with God. Overzealousness is nothing. The will of God is above everything.

Even though they prophecy in his name, cast out demons in his name, and perform many signs and wonders in his name, they will be rejected by God on the last day. Same with the overzealous disobedient wife. Do not be deceived.

4. If your husband has this issue against you and you think by being too zealous for God that he will accept you, you are wrong and on your own. You cannot appear before God with sin as a disobedient wife who is striving with her husband and expect God to accept your work, gift, or sacrifice in the church or ministry you attend. Before God will accept you anywhere, you must go and make peace with your husband first. See it here in Matthew 5:23-24.

5. They tell you there is no husband in heaven but they won't tell you there is no church in heaven. They won't tell you that you must give account of what you did with your husband on earth before they allow you pass through the gate of heaven. If not, you are going nowhere. God only desire those that will worship him in spirit and truth wherever they are.

Know this, that if you move from one church to another, it will not be used against you on the judgment day. But when you move from one husband to another, or abandon the one that married you, you have a case to answer. God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. So if your desire to worship with a particular pastor, church, or ministry is making you to do what God hates, then you will have yourself to blame on the day of judgement.

6. This is what it means to love God, that you keep his commandments and yet his commandments are not burdensome. His will that you seek to do is not a burden that can cause problem and separation between husband and wife, Deuteronomy 30:11-14, 1 John 5:3. What he desire from us is simple, see also Micah 6:7-8.

The purest and undefiled form of religion/worship before God is to help the orphans, widows, and to stay away from worldly things, James 1:27.

7. Let no man judge you because of keeping the Sabbath day for it ts not a requirement for going to heaven, Col 2:16-17.

Submit to your husband and have deep respect for him, Ephesians 5:22-24, 1 Peter 3:1-2, 5-6.

If you are a pastor, prophet, or prophetess, and you have a member who is having such issue with her husband, it is better to do the needful accordingly to what is written in Matthew 5:23-24. Let them go make peace first with husbands and come clean before God for worship.

Even if it means they won't come back, at least you are not guilty of causing division and breaking what God has joined together.

Churches has been destroying marriages for a long time now especially FOURSQUARE church
Once they know you don't belong to der tribe u are done for evil church yes evil church

I’m just happy that husbands insisting on submission are creating unhappy wives, and these unhappy wives look for a way to extract their pound of flesh from the husbands, making them unhappy too. Lol.

No one can submit to anyone if they don’t feel safe. They don’t feel safe if the husband is out there cheating, hiding money from the wife, keeping secrets etc.

Funny thing is that most of the men insisting on submission don’t love their wives unconditionally. Una go wait tire. Mumu people. Submission ko, slavery ni.

socialmediaman:
My Philosophy for couples with traditional values is, if you’re in a relationship where you can’t obey your man and be submissive to him, don’t marry that man, find your husband. Your husband is the head of you and the family, just as Christ is the head of the church.[/b] later on.

This is why the laws of the land must permit us to beat our wives in all circumstances regardless. They are rebellious since Eve their mother brought shame to us. Gods Word will suffice for me and my household.

Boomark:
Your point is actually pointless. Unequally yoked with who, a Christian or a non Christian?

Who is an unbeliever according to the bible? Did they teach you that your husband who is a Christian in another church is an unbeliever?
So if this is your only point, then you have no point.

If they are both Christians .... but going to different churches... why the discord? They can both call themselves Christians .... one a Catholic the other a Pentecostal... but they are unequally yoked because they have different beliefs. Two Christians can be unequally yoked ... same with two non believers.

seyicodes:
That's the beauty of Islam. You can pray at any mosque in the world. The same way

do you mean: the union of the faithful under one head?

Aaronsrod:
This is why the laws of the land must permit us to beat our wives in all circumstances regardless. They are rebellious since Eve their mother brought shame to us. Gods Word will suffice for me and my household.

The laws of the land do not permit domestic violence as a punishment for a disobedient wife. There are other options like correction, separation and divorce if the issues are not reconcilable

sweetkev:
Opp, what if in a situation where one partner converted to Christianity while the other partner still remains in his/her religion. What's the one who converted going to do ?

This below is what she should do with prayers so that God will help her.

1 Peter 3:1-2 to 7
1. Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2.when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 7...so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

It is not by gragra. Gragra by fire by force is done by those who lack knowledge of the truth.

1 Corinthians 7:12-16
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

yea

geedee4real:
I am into this already and I need help! I am an Anglican! While my wife was born into the apostolic faith. She loves her church so much. While planning for our marriage I promised her that I will allow her practice her own faith. After our marriage I started attending same church with her but wasn't comfortable with their mode of worship. How do I withdraw from the church without causing any issue at home. Because I withdrawing means am withdrawing my kids also. Please I need advise

Good you kept your promise. But the children are not involved in the promise. If you wish to go with the kids it shouldn't be a problem for a wife who is submissive to her husband.

It will be wrong for her to start causing problem because of it.1Peter 3:7 said, such things can hinder prayers. That's why I said any wife making trouble her husband because of the church she attended is wasting her time. At least you allowed her to be attending the church she liked.

If any matter should arise, you can show her(and her pastor) these things in the op. Let them dispute it if they can.

Lukuluku69 post=1225499p17:
Does it matter? Is it not same Jesus that is being preached in those other Churches?

And how do you know that the Husband's Church preach the RIGHT DOCTRINES?

It matters. Same God but they are having issues? The real solution to those issues is what I posted.

I wrote out of experience. Though not personal experience.

Lukuluku69:
If ever I decide to attend a Church, my views about life will be from the Scriptures and not what my Church think.

Also, the Husband Church could be preaching wrong doctrines and also wrong views about life, so why would/should the wife follow him to his own church?

Obedience to the will of God is better than sacrifice. Even those that think they are preaching and doing miracles were rejected because they failed to do the will of the Father.

She should be studious and focus on doing the will of God. She has her bible. I add in the op that what require from his children is not burdensome (burdensome doctrines).