Janosky:


Gentiles & Jews bearing God's name,Acts 15:7-17 & Isaiah 43:10 (ASV)


Abeg carry your Mumu outta here.

Faithless miscreants wan change Bible

MaxInDHouse:


Quote God's word and explain to yourself!

All have sinned (including all the babies in the world) and fallen short of God's glory! Romans 6:23

So go and figure it out yourself!

jaephoenix:

This Janosky guy has removed every doubt from my mind that he's daft, every time he opens his mouth

tctrills:


Romans 6.23 is not in dispute. Even you sin I only asked you a question and it seems you did not understand it so let me break it down in to more questions.
1. Are children from God?
2. Are children gifts and heritage from God?
3. Are children God's enemies.
Note: your brother Janosky thinks it's only the Wicked that are enemies to God. So when you say all have sinned, does that include the children of JW members?

MaxInDHouse:


Why do you think we are working really hard to teach them God's standard? Deuteronomy 6:6-7

Ọmọ they are God's enemies that's why we must work really hard to make them God's friends {Proverbs 22:6; Psalms 127:4} God even told us that foolishness is tied in their hearts! Proverbs 22:15

So if you can't figure it out yourself i can't help you further!

tctrills:

I see you answered question 3 but skipped the rest. So let me ask a different question to you. Is a 2 months old JW baby also God's enemy?

MaxInDHouse:


"ALL have sinned" {Romans 3:23} even including babies in the womb! Psalms 51:5

You're just displaying your ignorance more and more on this forum despite claiming you believe (trust) in what the Bible teaches!

tctrills:

You and Janosky seem to be in different JW sects. You believe all babies are God's enemies he believes that only the babies of the evil are God's enemies.
I think from now on, I would view you guys differently.
Now to you, Do you believe that babies commit sin? You qouted Romans 3.23 so I believe you do.

MaxInDHouse:


Janosky spoke from the perspective of a parent who is FAITHFUL, my child is God's enemy from conception but due to being a faithful servant of God such a fetus is in my plan that whatever it will cost me i must make sure i inculcate in him God's standard.
So unlike the children of a faithless miscreant who is DEAD {Luke 9:60} my own child is already a prospective JW but then like the powerful archer {Psalms 127:3-4} i must do everything manly possible to inculcate the laws of my God in him otherwise i will miss him in God's Kingdom! Deuteronomy 6:6-7

tctrills:

Babies do not commit sin

Janosky:


Nah only medicine certs.com dey do EM Surgery for Nigeria?


Nah every medical info dey internet in this country?


You may have certificate (clown disrespectful to his potential clients) but you don't have SABIFICATE.

MaxInDHouse:


Sit yourself there's no need arguing with you because you're the same person i have been avoiding!

oteneaaron:


This is interesting.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't care where the money comes from.

I'm sure if they were in the shoes of that charity organization you mentioned above, they definitely wouldn't mind.

Even if the money comes from the sale of weapons of mass destruction or from a Gambling Authority, they don't care.

For Jehovah's Witnesses, the end always justifies the means.

MaxInDHouse:


Janosky spoke from the perspective of a parent who is FAITHFUL, my child is God's enemy from conception but due to being a faithful servant of God such a fetus is in my plan that whatever it will cost me i must make sure i inculcate in him God's standard.
So unlike the children of a faithless miscreant who is DEAD {Luke 9:60} my own child is already a prospective JW but then like the powerful archer {Psalms 127:3-4} i must do everything manly possible to inculcate the laws of my God in him otherwise i will miss him in God's Kingdom! Deuteronomy 6:6-7

oteneaaron:
What the video below for better context:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVvdu1DsHxs

If you watched the video above, you didn't hear wrongly.

Stephen Lett, a current member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has called babies "enemies of god" .

Here are his exact words quoted:



What do you think about this line of reasoning?

Do you truly agree with Jehovah's Witnesses that Babies are enemies of god?

I look forward to your comments.

Have a great Sunday.

tctrills:

Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin. Psalms 51:5
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 Its hard to know which of you have the JW position. Now read from your JW version of the bible Jesus, however, said: “Let the young children alone, and do not try to stop them from coming to me, for the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to such ones.
Is it clear to you now from your own version of the bible?

FxMasterz:

He was obviously using his defective logic to interpret scriptures. Meanwhile Jesus said 'Let little children come unto me for of such is the Kingdom of God." Who is he to call them God's enemies when God said they're His friends? My dear MaxinDHouse, this is one of the things I was telling you about.

MaxInDHouse:


So He destroyed all His friends along with evildoers in the days of Noah shey?

MaxInDHouse:


Is God's Kingdom for children or adults that humbly made themselves teachable like children?

FxMasterz:

You know quiet well that He destroyed only those who didn't enter the ark.

Were the animals destroyed during the floods of Noah God's enemies too?

tctrills:

Jesus was very specific here that the children would inherit his kingdom. He did not give any conditions for children. So as I always ask, do we believe you or Jesus Christ. Remember, I even quoted from your own bible.

jaephoenix:


See, Max cannot take that Densest of the Dense crown from your head. Its squarely yours.
This is what the passages you posted said.

Acts 15:7-17

7 After a lot of debating, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brothers, you know what happened some time ago. God chose me so that people who aren't Jewish could hear the Good News and believe.
8 God, who knows everyone's thoughts, showed that he approved of people who aren't Jewish by giving them the Holy Spirit as he gave the Holy Spirit to us.
9 God doesn't discriminate between Jewish and non-Jewish people. He has cleansed non-Jewish people through faith as he has cleansed us Jews.
10 So why are you testing God? You're putting a burden on the disciples, a burden neither our ancestors nor we can carry.
11 We certainly believe that the Lord Jesus saves us the same way that he saves them--through his kindness."
12 The whole crowd was silent. They listened to Barnabas and Paul tell about all the miracles and amazing things that God had done through them among non-Jewish people.
13 After they finished speaking, James responded, "Brothers, listen to me.
14 Simon has explained how God first showed his concern by taking from non-Jewish people those who would honor his name.
15 This agrees with what the prophets said. Scripture says,
16 'Afterwards, I will return. I will set up David's fallen tent again. I will restore its ruined places again. I will set it up again
17 so that the survivors and all the people who aren't Jewish over whom my name is spoken, may search for the Lord, declares the Lord
So I'm sat here, mentally scratching my head how this passage relates to JWs being mentioned in the Bible.

Then

Isaiah 43:10
10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.

So this one said humans are Yahweh's witnesses, and boom, they're suddenly talking about JW?
That particular verse can be claimed by virtually any Christian denominations. In fact when I googled the verse, the first hit was from… Latter Day Saints. Not even JW

Janosky:


Acts 24:13-14, Paul debunks your fallacy.

Which Christians dey offer animal sacrifices?

Abeg carry your Mumu outta here.

Janosky:


Dullard, which children?
Ephesians 2:3,Children of God's anger bearing their own children?

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb.
They go astray as soon as they are born."

Only children born to Jehovah's servants will inherit God's kingdom, Ephesians 2:3-8 settled this matter.

Faithless miscreants wan change the holy scriptures

Janosky:


Dullard, which children?
Ephesians 2:3,Children of God's anger bearing their own children?

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb.
They go astray as soon as they are born."

Only children born to Jehovah's servants will inherit God's kingdom, Ephesians 2:3-8 settled this matter.

Faithless miscreants wan change the holy scriptures

Janosky:



Oga, DECEIVING YOURSELF
Your FALSE claims are NOT in your Bible.
Go and write your own Bible.

Acts 24:10,13-14, Paul disgraced your LYING.
"We have found this man to be a troublemaker who is constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes.


10The governor then motioned for Paul to speak. Paul said, “I know, sir, that you have been a judge of Jewish affairs for many years, so I gladly present my defense before you . 13.These men cannot prove the things they accuse me of doing.

14“But I admit that I follow the Way, which they call a cult. I worship the God of our ancestors, and I firmly believe the Jewish law and everything written in the prophets"

jaephoenix:


See, Max cannot take that Densest of the Dense crown from your head. Its squarely yours.
This is what the passages you posted said.

Acts 15:7-17

7 After a lot of debating, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brothers, you know what happened some time ago. God chose me so that people who aren't Jewish could hear the Good News and believe.
8 God, who knows everyone's thoughts, showed that he approved of people who aren't Jewish by giving them the Holy Spirit as he gave the Holy Spirit to us.
9 God doesn't discriminate between Jewish and non-Jewish people. He has cleansed non-Jewish people through faith as he has cleansed us Jews.
10 So why are you testing God? You're putting a burden on the disciples, a burden neither our ancestors nor we can carry.
11 We certainly believe that the Lord Jesus saves us the same way that he saves them--through his kindness."
12 The whole crowd was silent. They listened to Barnabas and Paul tell about all the miracles and amazing things that God had done through them among non-Jewish people.
13 After they finished speaking, James responded, "Brothers, listen to me.
14 Simon has explained how God first showed his concern by taking from non-Jewish people those who would honor his name.
15 This agrees with what the prophets said. Scripture says,
16 'Afterwards, I will return. I will set up David's fallen tent again. I will restore its ruined places again. I will set it up again
17 so that the survivors and all the people who aren't Jewish over whom my name is spoken, may search for the Lord, declares the Lord
So I'm sat here, mentally scratching my head how this passage relates to JWs being mentioned in the Bible.

Then

Isaiah 43:10
10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.

Jaephoenix your rendition of Acts 15:14 is Maggi and pepper rendition.
"God taking a people for His name"Acts 15:14 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear screenshot PROVEN evidence.

God calls His people "You are witnesses,my chosen servants", Jehovah's witnesses.
2 Chronicles 7:14,"my people called by my name," says Jehovah God.

Acts 3:13, Matthew 3:16-17 Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness, God's chosen servant.
John 5:43," I have come in my Father's name," Jesus confessed.

jaephoenix:


So this one said humans are Yahweh's witnesses, and boom, they're suddenly talking about JW?
That particular verse can be claimed by virtually any Christian denominations. In fact when I googled the verse, the first hit was from… Latter Day Saints. Not even JW

bobestman:
you are a fool and ignorant. Paul agreed to the way of the sect but disagreed that he caused problems. He said he kept ALL THE JEWISH LAWS. Do you even follow the laws?. Keep insulting yourself. Mumu

This bobest DELUSION strong Gaan.

Acts 24:13-14, Paul PROVEN you are deluded.
"The way" is a reference to Christians,
Acts 26:28
"Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian".

Keep up your insults but the holy scriptures will continue to disgrace you.

tctrills:

Samuel, John the Baptist, Jacob, and Jeremiah were all chosen by God right from the womb. In Jacob's case, God even declared his love for him at that early stage. We're these people also God's enemies from the womb?