NaijaOlosho:
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ribbit:
I have made my stance known severally on Muslim Muslim ticket and I will repeat it again and let's hope it gets into your head unlike the rest of the zom bi dents.

Tinubu picking Muslim is not because he hates christians but because there is no christian politician in the north east that has enough clout or followership to deliver votes.


Muslims are minority in the south while christians are minority in the north.

Use logic for a minute, if a Christian northerner becomes a flag bearer of a major party and he wants to choose a vice from south east, would you advise him to pick a Igbo Muslim?
Which Igbo Muslim politician do you know that has enough clout to deliver Igbo votes?

Question you failed to ask yourself is, is Muslim Muslim ticket the reason obi ran anti Yoruba campaign against ngige? Or ostracized anyone that is catholic from his government?

When you see a tribal or religious bigot, you don't have to use whataboutism to defend him.

obyrich:
They know what they are doing. They know how an ordinary Nigerian values his tribal a nd religious identity. So they want to force tribal and religious gown on obidient movement to break their ranks. It is a divide and rule strategy. They are aware that Obi/Datti is national movement. Obi was the only candidate that went everywhere to tell people not to him because of his religion or tribe.

samsard:
Oh, and Obi campaigning in churches is definitely not because he hates Muslims but rather because he wants to appeal to the Christian section of the votes that the APC believes it does not need. It's simple logic. Also, FYI, not every Christian or pastor wants Obi simply because he's a Christian. They do genuinely believe he's a better alternative than the more controversial alleged drug and terror affiliation tickets and obvious problems with old age. I think it's highly problematic that you people try to justify the belief that northern Muslims will not vote for a ticket with a northern Christian. The example with an Igbo Muslim is a moot point. There are several ethnic groups in the north and more than a few northern states with a majority Christian population.
I suppose the majority Christian Benue state that voted for Tinubu are fools unlike the Northeast that presumably won't vote a Christian, right? What clout does Tinubu's vice have that say a Dogara does not have other than an alleged Boko Haram affiliation?
If "Tinubu does not hate Christians," then Obi simply doesn't hate Muslims either. APC started a game and tries to paint another player as a black sheep. I don't care if it's whataboutery; people shouldn't engage in open hypocrisy and point fingers.

And FYI, a lot of politicians in the APC and basically every party are open tribal and religious bigots whose utterances have led to violence that I have personally witnessed. Obi has been careful not to advocate for violence.

ribbit:
who said obi hates Muslim?

Typical zom bi dents.. always reading without understanding. Like I always say, you can't be logical person and be obidient.


The topic says obidient movement is fueled by religious and tribal sentiment. Everything obi did during his campaign pointed to exactly that.

Obi campaigned in churches (religious sentiment) asking churches to take their country back. Whenever he campaigned in Muslim dominated states, he goes to places where there is high concentration of igbos or christians. (Tribal sentiment)

Name any other candidate that did any of these?

Did tinubu go to north to campaign in Yoruba dominated areas or did he go from mosque to mosque to ask his fellow Muslim to take their country back?

Did atiku go to Oyo and went straight to sabo to go and campaign to his fellow northerners?

Which pastor will genuinely believe a failure like obi with zero track record is suddenly the chosen one to the point of threatening anyone that didn't vote him if not sentiment and emotions?

samsard:
Going by the highlighted, a man with signs of dementia and proven drug affiliations is a better candidate than one without corruption or crime baggages?
And Obi campaigned in many other places. If I am not wrong, Obi campaigned in EVERY STATE CAPITAL like every other presidential candidate, didn't he? What's the issue if he was invited to or appeared in churches?
We all know Tinubu didn't need to campaign in a mosque after clearly picking a Muslim candidate for northern Muslim votes and admitting to that. Other presidential candidates asides Obi met religious leaders and even made public or private donations.
As for Obidient movement being fueled by religious and tribal sentiment, can anyone in good conscience say that the people supporting BAT and APC aren't doing it on religious & tribal grounds? We all know how Yorubas on every platform made the election a tribal issue & ethnic slurs became so disturbing Seun had to explicitly ban ethnic slurs.
We also know that Sai Buharists were mostly people of core northern and Muslim extraction at some point to the point that a religious crisis started in Kaduna in 2011 when Buhari lost to GEJ. Yes, I was there and witnessed the carnage.
Regarding you hurling invectives, it's not for a lack of ability to hurl insults that I'm trying to have an argument with you.

ribbit:
I'm not going to go back and forth with you because that's obviously what you are ready to do .

I already addressed the reason why tinubu picked a Muslim vice. If you have anything to fault it, present it and stop sounding like a broken record.

Tinubu has solid track record of performance and not being party olosho, like atiku and obi.
What ever baggage drug case tinubu has is not against Nigerian state and Lagos is the best state in Nigeria using any indices you may want to think about thanks to his vision.

Obi has no track record in Anambra and all his current supporters wanted to hang him in the past.

Which sane pastor will vouch for a criminal that invested state fund into personal business and at the same time do everything possible to evade paying taxes from the income he made from that state and moved his money into Pandora tax haven if not sentimental pastors?


This is why tinubu picked a Muslim.
Is it logical or not?
Oya fault it.

samsard:
Most billionaires find ways to evade taxes, and as a matter of fact it's not the only reason people move their wealth to tax havens. Preparing against possible political & economic instability is one of the top reasons for African billionaires do it. If you follow economic indicators closely some people move their wealth outside during elections generally and it's the same premise. A similar argument was used against Donald Trump by Hillary Clinton and he told her she could have changed the law so the rich would pay taxes but she wouldn't because all her campaign funders are rich. It's not anyone's fault if they protected their wealth.
When it comes to crime records, we know there's absolutely no kind of conviction of seizure for Peter Obi. However, publicly available records in the US show BAT had a drug involvement. Now if you weren't biased, picture PO being the one with the drug affiliations, now tell me if you won't use that against his candidature every single time.
A lot of the people who wanted Obi simply wanted a sincere politician who will lower the cost of governance, not one of the already profligate old order to which BAT seems to belong.
As for being a party olosho, most Nigerian politicians have jumped across parties over the last 24 years unless they controlled the party, e.g Buhari and Tinubu with ANPP and AD or AC if I recall correctly.

fergie001:
In a series of tweets, the Minister of Labour and Employment (State), Festus Keyamo has hit out at the Obidient Movement.



Festus Keyamo

This man's reputation is fast disappearing like the few before the morning sun.




Festus Keyamo

ribbit:
they successfully hijacked church structure.

Have you asked yourself why places obi performed well has huge christians or Igbo settlement?

IfnobeGod20:

Have you really asked yourself why muslims refused to vote for him but voted massively for the three leading muslims on ballots? Until you answer this, you will be able to know why Obi performed massively in christian dominated areas.

ribbit:
I'm not going to go back and forth with you because that's obviously what you are ready to do .

I already addressed the reason why tinubu picked a Muslim vice. If you have anything to fault it, present it and stop sounding like a broken record.

Tinubu has solid track record of performance and not being party olosho, like atiku and obi.
What ever baggage drug case tinubu has is not against Nigerian state and Lagos is the best state in Nigeria using any indices you may want to think about thanks to his vision.

Obi has no track record in Anambra and all his current supporters wanted to hang him in the past.

Which sane pastor will vouch for a criminal that invested state fund into personal business and at the same time do everything possible to evade paying taxes from the income he made from that state and moved his money into Pandora tax haven if not sentimental pastors?


This is why tinubu picked a Muslim.
Is it logical or not?
Oya fault it.

ribbit:
have you asked your self why majority of christians didn't vote him despite pandering to christians votes and making Muslims the enemy?

When you go about campaigning in church and telling christians to take back the country, how do you expect any sane Muslim to support him?

If you as a Christian see Muslim candidate going from mosque to mosque and telling Muslim to take back the country, would you vote for such candidate?

IfnobeGod20:

Why you people like lying like your father the devil? Obi is a Catholic member and he still ostracized them. Go and google the billions of money he gave the same Catholic church to refurbish their schools and hospitals. Lying has not glory.
Also, can you name his personal business that he invested the state money in and how much income he generated from it that he refused to pay tax of it but instead took the money to Pandora Tax haven? I challenge you to this debate and let us see a liar that is desecrating the net with lies. Remember you said his personal business and I want you to stay by your lie and not start dribbling about like your roforofo APC spokesmen. Why must you people lie?
On the issue of investment on tax haven. Please which law prohibits investment of one personal money into tax haven? I need you to quote that section of the constitution and let the world see it. Obi has umpteenth times said, he invested in tax haven even before he ever contemplated of joining politics and he had not added a dime to it since he joined politics. He has challenged your kind to show course that he stole any money and put it inside any tax haven but till date nobody has challenged him but many of you doing roforofo as usual. The last time I checked, he wasn't the only politicians that had money kept in tax haven. Governor Sani Bello is one. Governor Atiku Bagudu is one. At least also two of Tinubu's family members are also there. Many private business owners are also there. If truly he stole any money and keep in tax haven, I know APC would have capitalize on that.
Tinubu picked muslim as deputy because christian is a minority in the north while muslim is a minority in the south. While majority muslims in the north won't vote for minority christian in the north does that not depict something to you? You can tell any reasonable person that there is no single competent person that is a Christian in the whole northern states. Who was Osinbajo and Jonathan in political arena but they were all voted for. There is not single justification for have denied christian candidate in the north the opportunity of VP if truly they think of equity, fairness and justice. All they need do is rally round the person, the same way they rally round Osinbajo and Jonathan in 2015 and 2007 respectively. Tinubu chose muslim VP because he needed muslims votes and nothing more than that. Let us just stop playing with words to justify our intent.

IfnobeGod20:

Why are you contradicting yourself? You claimed he was campaigning in the churches but the majority of them didn't vote for him. Which one should we believe now?

When APC went campaigning in the mosques and called their candidacy jihad, how do you want true Christians to vote for Jihad and also keep mum and at the same time making christians enemies?

I as christian have with me videos of how Islamic clerics telling their congregants to ensure Muslim-muslim ticket works and not to put shame on Islam. He even went further to say, the worst of Muslim is better than infidel.

Paratizi:
*facepalm*

No wonder you are an obidient.
Obi sure knows how to pick them.

See this one comparing apple and oranges. How is this even related?

Which of the major presidential aspirant did you see in mosque campaigning like obi?

If it's pastors campaignimg for obi without obi himself getting involved and going from church to church, do you think anyone would have cared?

When the likes of oyedepo etc were campaigning for Jonathan in 2016, did anyone tag Jonathan a religious bigot?

God gave you this brain, please use it. I beg you.

Paratizi:


Maybe if you learn to post properly I will engage you in a debate.

North east has christian minority the same way the south east has Muslim minority.
North West has plenty of christians but atiku already has north west on lock down.

Answer this question honestly, if a northern christian aspirant wants to take a vice from south east cos south west is already on lock down for the opponent, would you advise him to look for igbo Muslim candidate? would igbos rally round some unknown Igbo Muslim?


If not for the fact that you have had your head buried in i pob and ob diots propagandas and didn't have time to research the obi you carry on your head like gala, you would have known that obi invested state fund in beer business that he is in control of and took the money to tax free havens like Pandora.

He admitted to it in interviews. Go to YouTube and search for yourself instead of letting yourself get brainwashed into thinking your obi is some kind of saint

ribbit:
I'm not going to go back and forth with you because that's obviously what you are ready to do .

I already addressed the reason why tinubu picked a Muslim vice. If you have anything to fault it, present it and stop sounding like a broken record.

Tinubu has solid track record of performance and not being party olosho, like atiku and obi.
What ever baggage drug case tinubu has is not against Nigerian state and Lagos is the best state in Nigeria using any indices you may want to think about thanks to his vision.

Obi has no track record in Anambra and all his current supporters wanted to hang him in the past.

Which sane pastor will vouch for a criminal that invested state fund into personal business and at the same time do everything possible to evade paying taxes from the income he made from that state and moved his money into Pandora tax haven if not sentimental pastors?


This is why tinubu picked a Muslim.
Is it logical or not?
Oya fault it.

IfnobeGod20:

I can't even engage you because you are not in my league. You that doesn't know when Jonathan contested can't engage me because you're too small. Jonathan contested in 2015 and not 2016.
Next time jump on what you have idea about and not what you have no iota of idea about.

Which of the candidate that went to church to say vote for me or my party? Until you show me that before I know you really use your brain and not your anus.

When same Tinubu was going from one mosque to another in the north, it's no big deal because he has two heads but Obi has one. What of Maulud Nabiyy that he went to attend
https://www.nairaland.com/7485474/tinubu-attends-maulud-nabiyy-celebration/3#119244456

Until you tell me if Tinubu has ever attended any mosque in the north or any of their Maulud Nabiyy before 2022.

zomby:



Which sane pastor will vouch for a criminal that invested state fund into personal business and at the same time do everything possible to evade paying taxes from the income he made from that state and moved his money into Pandora tax haven if not sentimental pastors?

Can someone tell the senseless obidientsss that this move is illegal?

Just until a few months ago Peter Obi was still a member of the PDP. In fact, he ran as Atiku’s running mate just 4 yrs ago. So, what exactly makes this man a scent?

Can one of these senseless Obidientsss explain to us what gives a governor the right to invest state fund into his personal business?
And also explain to us what makes peter Obi different from when he ran as Atiku’s running mate and now?

Please keep in mind that Atiku (PDP) still remains one of the biggest thieves in Nigeria today and definitely responsible for bringing our country down to her knees. And Peter Obi was definitely part of this team.

hobat4cash:

Hmm! So Abuja is populated by Christians and the Igbos, right? How old are you?

samsard:
Most billionaires find ways to evade taxes, and as a matter of fact it's not the only reason people move their wealth to tax havens. Preparing against possible political & economic instability is one of the top reasons for African billionaires do it. If you follow economic indicators closely some people move their wealth outside during elections generally and it's the same premise. A similar argument was used against Donald Trump by Hillary Clinton and he told her she could have changed the law so the rich would pay taxes but she wouldn't because all her campaign funders are rich. It's not anyone's fault if they protected their wealth.
When it comes to crime records, we know there's absolutely no kind of conviction of seizure for Peter Obi. However, publicly available records in the US show BAT had a drug involvement. Now if you weren't biased, picture PO being the one with the drug affiliations, now tell me if you won't use that against his candidature every single time.
A lot of the people who wanted Obi simply wanted a sincere politician who will lower the cost of governance, not one of the already profligate old order to which BAT seems to belong.
As for being a party olosho, most Nigerian politicians have jumped across parties over the last 24 years unless they controlled the party, e.g Buhari and Tinubu with ANPP and AD or AC if I recall correctly.

Konjiboii:
Werey are grasping on straws, the Obidient movement is the most peaceful non-tribal or religious movement ever witness in the country ,just my street alone there are Hausa Muslims ,Yoruba Muslims ,Igbo christians and a blend of everything in between and we are all in support of ObiDatti , there's no saving all this bastards now. We now know who the true enemies of our dear nation are.

Konjiboii:


You should be ashamed of yourself supporting your slave masters , after they have sucked the country dry and murdered innocent ones for their selfish interest ,it's either you are part of them and enjoying this nightmare or you are just a demon sent from hell and enjoy the misery of others, either way you and your demon lords are about to be cast to hell for eternal damnation..to my fellow Obidients keep the faith, we are taking our country back.

Steinmann:
KEYAMO IS MAKING THINKING NIGERIANS DOUBT HIS SANITY AND MORAL STANDING.

ribbit:
if hardship is affecting everyone, is it now a failure that was part of pdp less than 6 months to election that will come and solve that problem when he failed to solve anything in Anambra?

I mean common, if we are crying we will still see now.
Cos we are angry doesn't mean we shouldn't use our brain.

Because you are angry at a school doesn't mean all the professors are bad.
Tinubu has solid track record of performance, and cos a presidential candidate of his party failed doesn't mean he will fail.

softwareman:

The hypocrisy of you obidients is sickening.
You shamelessly REPROBATE AND APPROBATE AT THE SAME TIME!!
Make excuses for your counterfeit , corrupt obi and condemn lesser things in others.
I ask a simple question... if obi have earned his money legitimately, why is he hiding them in 0ffshore accounts like all greedy THIEFS DO?
why does he jump from one party to another if he is not a CHEAP OPPORTUNIST?
Can you bet your money that obi will stay and build LP till 2027 if PDP promises obi the ticket in 2027?
Obi is unprincipled. THAT IS WHY HE IS SO UNSTABLE IN HIS POLITICAL WAYS.
PDP TO APGA
APGA TO PDP
PDP TO LP.
Which way next for this disgusting, despicable POLITICAL PROSTITUTES?!

Paratizi:
lol so because tinubu is a Muslim , he cannot attend malud nabir celebration.

It's like posting photo of past Christian president attending Easter or Christmas celebration to counter someone going to different church and church program every Sunday to campaign.

Which of your family member goes from one church to another every Sunday? Goes from one denomination to another?

Even devil himself don't have time to jump from one church to another like obi did.

Why am I wasting my time with this f0ol?

Did anyone call Jonathan a bigot cos pastors campaigned for him?

The ediot couldn't even tell the that I was referring to 2015 election and the likes of oyedepo had campaigned for Jonathan since 2014.

This brainless dolt wants to use that as an escape root.