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jaephoenix:
Ok. No problem. But stop denying about being grilled by me

You tell lies
I asked you for your evidence
You wouldn't provide one

But you think this will bail you out

SIRTee15:
U are beginning to put words into my mouth. Where did I say they are not used. I said it's not a magic cure at that stage.

You cleverly avoided using them. Because I have been asking you this question but you haven't been aswering them. If a patient was on those modalities, the chances of remission is high. So where is the miracle? Also the fact people that don't pray to yahweh or people that don't pray at all, still experience remission, then its obvious not a miracle

jaephoenix:
Lol. Grow some balls is an idiomatic expression and there is no insult there. Nigerians are something else

Because your focus is narrow, did I hear you say there is no insult there?

SIRTee15:
My highlighted clearly states man has a right to make a choice.
Angels don't have that right- those that rebelled against God were sent to eternal damnation without any option of repentance or change of mind.

So if angels aren't created to have free will or rebel, how did Lucifer, a former angel, rebel against Yahweh? Where did that freewill come from?

jaephoenix:
Giving 2 babes orgasm is a better venture than to praying to a non existent entity. In fact I'd rather watch porn. Its more rewarding. And my life is the better for it

ok

jaephoenix:
You cleverly avoided using them. Because I have been asking you this question but you haven't been aswering them. If a patient was on those modalities, the chances of remission is high. So where is the miracle? Also the fact people that don't pray to yahweh or people that don't pray at all, still experience remission, then its obvious not a miracle

I will respond to this because it's medical related. Don't spread fallacy here
Chemo or radio for metastatic cancers still carries poor prognosis, remission do happen esp with advancement on therapy but it's not magic cure at that stage.

jaephoenix:
1. Lemme ask you, would you rather pray to Allah or watch porn? I DONT GIVE A PRAYING FVCK ABOUT YOUR YAHWEH! TELL HIM TO SVCK A DICK.
2. Again, its my wife, my marriage, not yours. Get a life!

Why would I watch porn? I have better things to do with my life than to be fantasizing about sex every time.

It’s you that left God because of orgasm, your life is about sex that is why Islam is best for you. It promises you 72 wives in their paradise that you will be having sex with for eternity and they will give you unresolving erections and strength of 100 men!

jaephoenix:
Lol. You come to my thread and make comments and expect me not to reply? Dude, its my own thread!
Besides, you quote people that don't quote you first, so why does mine irk you?
You attack muslims and the qoran copiously without them inviting you into the discourse. When its time for the bible to face scrutiny and take the heat, you dissolve into the shrubbery like Homer Simpson.

ok

SIRTee15:
Mr irreversible destiny, u are a closet Muslim. because this is what Muslims believe about life.
U are beating around the bush, u are still not clear. Come out plainly and answer this
Someone who died as an armed robber, was that his pre determined destiny when he was born?
A prostitute who ended up being murdered by her client, was that her predetermined destiny from day one of her life? To grow up and become a prostitute, nothing can change it?
Fatalist atheist? Are u kidding ? How can there be fatalism without an author or supernatural force. What's writing the script, why can't man change his choice based on his own life reflection. Why must u end up in the same circumstances irrespective of what u do? Seriously, I think u are lost.
Just like TenQ said, it's better we discuss philosophy with u guys than theology.

Africa has no hope and it's lost. Na wa o. No wonder u guys vote for irresponsible leaders since what will be will be. Maynman do you agree with him?
In that case, africans should sit their butt in Africa and stop migrating to place where they believe the prosperity and future of their countries is in their hands.

Lol. Where do I even start?
I dont care what muslims believe. I believe what I believe. If muslims believe the same, then its their business.
I dont even think you know what fatalism is.
This is the definition.
fatalism
/ˈfeɪtəlɪz(ə)m/
noun
the belief that all events are predetermined and therefore inevitable.
"fatalism can breed indifference to the human costs of war"
a submissive attitude to events, resulting from a fatalistic attitude.
"he experienced a sense of fatalism that kept his fear at bay"
Did you see anywhere they alluded to a supernatural being? Damn!
About Africa, I said if its predermined that it ll be poor then there is nothing we can do. Learn to read english

SIRTee15:
Have u actually seen a case of advanced cervical cancer with fungating mass b4? Biopsy is for what u already know which we did anyway.
I already told u she had no chemo, radio or surgery.
Guy u are beginning to sound like those Pharisees in John 9 who were pestering that blind man who was healed by Jesus.
They wouldn't believe the poor guy but still wouldn't let him be.

No. The essence of biopsy is to know the specific cervical cancer type which would determine the specific chemo to use. Why are you changing stance? You told me they used chemo and radio.
I have told you several times the causes of that remission. It looks like you don't read my posts

SIRTee15:
Already answered, no need going around in circles.
Just like TenQ said, u guys are confusing foreknowledge with destiny.

No, I'm not. Foreknowledge is having a pre-knowledge about an event. Destiny is the a predetermined fate or endpoint of a human.

jaephoenix:
No. The essence of biopsy is to know the specific cervical cancer type which would determine the specific chemo to use. Why are you changing stance? You told me they used chemo and radio.
I have told you several times the causes of that remission. It looks like you don't read my posts

Point to me where I wrote she had chemo and radio.
U sha want her to have treatment by fire by force.
She didn't have treatment, deal with it.

Essence of biopsy is to know specific cancer type? Seriously? Are u a doctor as u claim?
Let me ask u few questions, If u remove a lump from a patient, will u send that lump for Biopsy or not?
If you perform colonoscopy on a patient who presented with rectal bleed. Will u send the parts of the bowel tissue for biopsy or not?

SIRTee15:
2,3, and 4 already answered. No need going around in circles. Check my previous posts.
God don't create evil, evil was as a result of earth's corruption.
1. Bible makes it clear that there's no forgiveness of sin without atonement by blood.

Nnamdiosu offers a good explanation here, hope.it helps.
Hello Richmond. Because your answer is genuine and you have expressed a honest desire to learn, I'll explain something's to you. I know God will enlighten you to understand.

Richmond, first off all there are laws, ancient laws that rule the universe, planets, spiritual realm and physical realm.
These Laws are older than the earth, and because they were in existence before even the earth was formed, we aren't fully in understanding of them all yet.


Sin is a serious issue. Spiritually it's like a capital crime in the spirit realm.

The same way a person commits a crime and is sentenced, that's the same way sin is treated.

Nothing that God created can die per say. Even we humans, we merly leave our physical bodies and move in the spiritual realm.

What God did to the world with water was just temporary solution. That's why after that, sin came again upon the world.

In the spiritual world, evil begets evil.
Good can't come from bad.
So when man sinned, all his descendants automatically become sinners because they all SHARE THE SAME BLOOD.
In the spiritual realm, sin can only be removed by blood equal to the species level of the sinner. That's why blood of goats can't purge sin.

The son of God, who came to died for man kind, was spiritually pure, so his blood was a perfect solution or substitute for the sin of all his specie type (humans).

The Armageddon that will befall the earth will occur primary because this world has been contaminated and needs cleansing .


I wrote a very interesting discourse on the topic above, from before the creation of man to the death if the son of God. Kindly read it and a lot of your questions will be answered.

Again, you have ignored the question.
How can an omniscient god regret or be surprised? You still haven't answered it. Now youve added more problems to yourself.
At the bolded, how can an omniscient being do temporary solution? Are you saying he doesn't have a permanent one?

SIRTee15:
What has Sodom and Gomorrah got to do with the flood that happened almost 500years apart?
Only seven pair of clean and a pair of unclean animals made the ark. As I said it was a small boat.

Really? Are there only 7 animals in this world?

Maynman:
It’s you that believe yahweh is omniscience and knows the future yet he doesn’t know destiny.
Is destiny not in the future?

Africa needs thinkers who are independent of religion.

I ask once again, define foreknowledge and destiny.
Does all knowing yahweh know the exact number of people that will go to hell?

This is the exact reason Africa is the most backward continent. With the crap I'm getting from this discourse, its no wonder we're like this

TenQ:
You made a claim and I challenge you here again
1. Your evidence of how and when I ran away from debating you
2. An evidence that you won the debate by eating me alive.

Like I said: you aren't worth the trouble! You are a waste of time!

Ok then. Have a nice day

TenQ:
So, your common sense is telling you that
1. You wrote the history of Nigeria
2. Ten years after, I also wrote the history of Nigeria
3. Conclusion: I must have copied your writeup on the history of Nigeria.


See how shallow your reasoning is!?

So what is the correlation of your analogy to this dispute?
Also are you aware the Epic talks of ancient gods? And those ancient gods had virgin birth, which is the same with jesus. So who is lying amongst the 2 books? Epic and Bible?

TenQ:
You tell lies
I asked you for your evidence
You wouldn't provide one

But you think this will bail you out

Lol. If you wanna deny, no problem. I won't be bothered to go through your posts, because you will still argue. At least I gave you the specific occasions

advocatejare:
Because your focus is narrow, did I hear you say there is no insult there?

That idiomatic expression had like 10 hits. Only one said its an insult and you latched on to it. You totally ignored the other 9 explanations which are from reliable sources.
What does that make you?

jaephoenix:
That idiomatic expression had like 10 hits. Only one said its an insult and you latched on to it. You totally ignored the other 9 explanations which are from reliable sources.
What does that make you?

Grow some ball dude go and watch your porn

SIRTee15:
I will respond to this because it's medical related. Don't spread fallacy here
Chemo or radio for metastatic cancers still carries poor prognosis, remission do happen esp with advancement on therapy but it's not magic cure at that stage.

Chemo and radio are still part of palliative care.
In the screenshot, the drugs for cancer are known as chemotherapy

advocatejare:
Why would I watch porn? I have better things to do with my life than to be fantasizing about sex every time.

It’s you that left God because of orgasm, your life is about sex that is why Islam is best for you. It promises you 72 wives in their paradise that you will be having sex with for eternity and they will give you unresolving erections and strength of 100 men!

Ok I have heard

jaephoenix:
Ok I have heard

You’re learning fast. Kudos

SIRTee15:
Point to me where I wrote she had chemo and radio.
U sha want her to have treatment by fire by force.
She didn't have treatment, deal with it.

Essence of biopsy is to know specific cancer type? Seriously? Are u a doctor as u claim?
Let me ask u few questions, If u remove a lump from a patient, will u send that lump for Biopsy or not?
If you perform colonoscopy on a patient who presented with rectal bleed. Will u send the parts of the bowel tissue for biopsy or not?

1. I have given the screenshot. Hope youll not deny it.
2. If she didn't have then its spontaneous remission, which is a known idiosyncratic event in carcinomas. So keep your yahweh in your ass where it belongs
3. Yes, biopsy is done to determine the specific type of cancer. Example. In lung CAs, biopsy of the lung is taken, and taken for histology to know the type (from the arrangement of the cells). It could be an adenocarcinoma, pancoat CA, small cell CA etc. Each of them have different treatment modalities and hormone sensitivity is key.
Another example. Breast CAs. Biopsy is sent to histology to know the specific type. These are Piaget cell, Phylloides tumor, fibrosarcoma etc. Each have their level of hormone sensitivity.
So in the end the oncologist can decide to use, for example, 3 cycles of doxorubicin with radio, or tamoxifen.

4. Of course youll send for histology. Is it for cooking soup?
5. The most possible endoscopy for revealed bleed is sigmoidoscopy, not colonoscopy, and yes, you'll send for histology.
NB: A colonoscopy takes a thorough look at the whole of the large bowel, up to the end of the small bowel; while a flexible sigmoidoscopy is a short test which only examines the rectum and sigmoid colon. These common tests are used to examine the health of your digestive system

I don't understand these your points

advocatejare:
Grow some ball dude go and watch your porn

Ok. Yahweh is a better porn watcher

advocatejare:
You’re learning fast. Kudos

Thank you

jaephoenix:
1. I have given the screenshot. Hope youll not deny it.
2. If she didn't have then its spontaneous remission, which is a known idiosyncratic event in carcinomas. So keep your yahweh in your ass where it belongs
3. Yes, biopsy is done to determine the specific type of cancer. Example. In lung CAs, biopsy of the lung is taken, and taken for histology to know the type (from the arrangement of the cells). It could be an adenocarcinoma, pancoat CA, small cell CA etc. Each of them have different treatment modalities and hormone sensitivity is key.
Another example. Breast CAs. Biopsy is sent to histology to know the specific type. These are Piaget cell, Phylloides tumor, fibrosarcoma etc. Each have their level of hormone sensitivity.
So in the end the oncologist can decide to use, for example, 3 cycles of doxorubicin with radio, or tamoxifen.

4. Of course youll send for histology. Is it for cooking soup?
5. The most possible endoscopy for revealed bleed is sigmoidoscopy, not colonoscopy, and yes, you'll send for histology.
NB: A colonoscopy takes a thorough look at the whole of the large bowel, up to the end of the small bowel; while a flexible sigmoidoscopy is a short test which only examines the rectum and sigmoid colon. These common tests are used to examine the health of your digestive system

I don't understand these your points

You obviously confused and not ff the thread of conversation anymore since they are too many.
I replied your mention where u were talking about chemo being used for palliative care. It had nothing to do with the index woman.
This is my reply to your queries if the woman had treatment...
jaephoenix:

1. You said all I said was speculation? How do you know?
2. I know stage 4 CAs falls into palliative care. But they still receive chemo and radio. My question is was she on those treatments before they took her away?

2. Nope.
But common be real. So u expecting chemo and radio to do the magic for a metastatic cancer. It makes them worse if anything. Esp in Nigeria where adjuvant treatment support is poor.
Look here, the woman has received her healing, let's move on.
I can tell u another one I witnessed in uch if u interested. I get them plenty for pocket. MIRACLE IS REAL.

Oga I dont need your googled answers. I wont allow u turn this into a medical thread.
Answer simple basic medical questions? So when a woman comes to u with breast lump, whats the primary reason u would do a biopsy on the lump? To know the grade of her cancer or to know if she actually has cancer?
So those tissues from the bowel and the lump, why do we send them for biopsy?
If u have to Google to answer the above questions, then u are not a doctor.

jaephoenix:
Chemo and radio are still part of palliative care.
In the screenshot, the drugs for cancer are known as chemotherapy

We talking of 2 different things.
Pls let's not turn this thread into medical. Just go to Google and bring an evidence of spontaneous remission of stage 4 cancer without therapy.
Just one and I will give it to u. Seriously, it will rest.

jaephoenix:
Reading through your posts, its a no-brainer the insults emanated from you

Than you Sir

jaephoenix:
Lol. If you wanna deny, no problem. I won't be bothered to go through your posts, because you will still argue. At least I gave you the specific occasions

Is it so difficult!?

You accused me of something derogatory
I said it is UNTRUE!
Supply your evidence

Is it impossible?
The record is there bro, there is no way I could have erased it!

Wannabe Atheist School boy argument amount to nothing!

SIRTee15:
You obviously confused and not ff the thread of conversation anymore since they are too many.
I replied your mention where u were talking about chemo being used for palliative care. It had nothing to do with the index woman.
This is my reply to your queries if the woman had treatment...
jaephoenix:

1. You said all I said was speculation? How do you know?
2. I know stage 4 CAs falls into palliative care. But they still receive chemo and radio. My question is was she on those treatments before they took her away?

2. Nope.
But common be real. So u expecting chemo and radio to do the magic for a metastatic cancer. It makes them worse if anything. Esp in Nigeria where adjuvant treatment support is poor.
Look here, the woman has received her healing, let's move on.
I can tell u another one I witnessed in uch if u interested. I get them plenty for pocket. MIRACLE IS REAL.

Oga I dont need your googled answers. I wont allow u turn this into a medical thread.
Answer simple basic medical questions? So when a woman comes to u with breast lump, whats the primary reason u would do a biopsy on the lump? To know the grade of her cancer or to know if she actually has cancer?
So those tissues from the bowel and the lump, why do we send them for biopsy?
If u have to Google to answer the above questions, then u are not a doctor.

Does my answer look googled, this boy? Do you see this kind of specific answers on google? Simply admit your fault and move on. Or thank me for teaching you. Though you dont want to tell me your work.
Maybe I should use upper case to answer since you dont understand lower case.
IF A WOMAN COMES TO ME WITH A BREAST LUMP, THE ESSENCE OF A BIOPSY IS TO KNOW IF ITS A CANCER OR NOT, AND IF ITS A CANCER, TO KNOW THE TYPE OF CANCER. TO STAGE IT, I HAVE TO DO CHEST XRAY, AXILLARY USS, ABDL USS, LFT ETC. Even if its not a mitotic lesion, it would still need to be removed.
Again back to the thread. You ignored all the answers(screenshot) i gave and you're backpedalling

jaephoenix:
So if angels aren't created to have free will or rebel, how did Lucifer, a former angel, rebel against Yahweh? Where did that freewill come from?

Islam fixed that Sir!

Iblis/Satan is said to be a Jinn in the Quran. And like humans, the Jinns are Free willed beings.

As for Angels, they obey the commands of their Lord.