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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Ken4Christ: 3:36pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. First things first, Moses is a fictional character and never existed, and the books of pentateuch were dated hundreds of years after he supposedly lived.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis#:~:text=Tradition%20credits%20Moses%20as%20the,is%20supposed%20to%20have%20lived.
2. Yes, he appeared in his brightness a few times. But I can tell you that the radiance of his glory at those moments were not in its fullest
The bible never spoke about the level of brilliance anywhere there. So how did you, thousands of years after the bible was written, figure it out? Did you use a can a light meter for it, bro? undecided

3. No, there is no evidence those events happened in the creation either historically, archeologically or scientifically. If you dare me again, I'll open another thread and drop all the evidence grin
Waste of time talking to you. You have made up your mind on what to believe. Please, don't cry too much when you get to hell. It's your chosen destiny.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Ken4Christ: 3:37pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
Really? You are correcting Paul? Lol. This is really desperate from you
Apostle Paul in human and liable to make grammatical errors.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:43pm On Apr 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
We talking of 2 different things.
Pls let's not turn this thread into medical. Just go to Google and bring an evidence of spontaneous remission of stage 4 cancer without therapy.
Just one and I will give it to u. Seriously, it will rest.
Seriously you have reading issues. Did you see those links of scientific websites of spontaneous remissions, or not?
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 4:23pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
Seriously you have reading issues. Did you see those links of scientific websites of spontaneous remissions, or not?
This is the one you posted..

This is the first documented case of clinically
evident visceral metastases of a bronchiogenic adenocarci-
noma developing after complete resection of the primary
and then showing complete SR. The epidemiology of SR is
reviewed and possible mechanisms involved in SR are dis-
cussed.
Above is not what I'm looking for- your case had treatment.
I can't find anything in other links- look for them and post here. U are the one making a claim not me.
I'm looking for SR in a stage 4 metastatic cancer WITHOUT ANY THERAPY.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:32pm On Apr 25, 2023
TenQ:
Is it so difficult!?

You accused me of something derogatory
I said it is UNTRUE!
Supply your evidence

Is it impossible?
The record is there bro, there is no way I could have erased it!

Wannabe Atheist School boy argument amount to nothing!
What derogatory accusation
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 4:33pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
Does my answer look googled, this boy? Do you see this kind of specific answers on google? Simply admit your fault and move on. Or thank me for teaching you. Though you dont want to tell me your work.
Maybe I should use upper case to answer since you dont understand lower case.
IF A WOMAN COMES TO ME WITH A BREAST LUMP, THE ESSENCE OF A BIOPSY IS TO KNOW IF ITS A CANCER OR NOT, AND IF ITS A CANCER, TO KNOW THE TYPE OF CANCER. TO STAGE IT, I HAVE TO DO CHEST XRAY, AXILLARY USS, ABDL USS, LFT ETC. Even if its not a mitotic lesion, it would still need to be removed.
Again back to the thread. You ignored all the answers(screenshot) i gave and you're backpedalling
Highlighted is the exact answer I'm looking for. U do biopsy first to know if the lump/tissue is cancer or not. Others are secondary, if lump isn't cancer, why do want to grade or stage what's non existent.
So why did u say this below....
jaephoenix:

No. The essence of biopsy is to know the specific cervical cancer type which would determine the specific chemo to use. Why are you changing stance?
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:33pm On Apr 25, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Islam fixed that Sir!

Iblis/Satan is said to be a Jinn in the Quran. And like humans, the Jinns are Free willed beings.

As for Angels, they obey the commands of their Lord.
We're talking christian mythology here. Besides I'm no muslim
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:34pm On Apr 25, 2023
Ken4Christ:
Waste of time talking to you. You have made up your mind on what to believe. Please, don't cry too much when you get to hell. It's your chosen destiny.
Is that all u have to offer? Lol grin grin cheesy
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:35pm On Apr 25, 2023
Ken4Christ:
Apostle Paul in human and liable to make grammatical errors.
So you Ken4Christ figured out this grammatical error, which hasn't been figured out for thousands of years? grin
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:36pm On Apr 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
This is the one you posted..

This is the first documented case of clinically
evident visceral metastases of a bronchiogenic adenocarci-
noma developing after complete resection of the primary
and then showing complete SR. The epidemiology of SR is
reviewed and possible mechanisms involved in SR are dis-
cussed.
Above is not what I'm looking for- your case had treatment.
I can't find anything in other links- look for them and post here. U are the one making a claim not me.
I'm looking for SR in a stage 4 metastatic cancer WITHOUT ANY THERAPY.
DID YOU READ ANY OF THE 4 LINKS I DROPPED?
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:38pm On Apr 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
Highlighted is the exact answer I'm looking for. U do biopsy first to know if the lump/tissue is cancer or not. Others are secondary, if lump isn't cancer, why do want to grade or stage what's non existent.
So why did u say this below....
jaephoenix:

No. The essence of biopsy is to know the specific cervical cancer type which would determine the specific chemo to use. Why are you changing stance?
We were talking about cancers there in that post. In the recent post, we are talking about a lump. Thus different managements
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by ANTIlSLAM(m):
jaephoenix:
… and he's doing a poor job of it. He needs help from you
He's doing a poor job for hammering your agbari with the truth.. Tell your second to get you a copy of Torah, I want to show you something that will finish you kpatakpata
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:56pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
And the wise man shouts aloud "There is no god"
Kikikikikikiki na u be the wise man be dat oo bah
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Ken4Christ: 5:58pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
Is that all u have to offer? Lol grin grin cheesy
It's the plan truth. The words of our Lord Jesus can't fall to the ground. He is Lord.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Lukuluku69(m): 6:11pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
We're talking christian mythology here. Besides I'm no muslim
Of cos I know the discussion Sir and I also know that you are not Muslim, I chipped that in to answer the question you asked.

Sorry if that seems barging in on your Convo!
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by TenQ: 6:53pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
What derogatory accusation
It started with a prep

jaephoenix:
Dont mind those guys, especially TenQ. When atheists grill him, he'll be running away. He avoids these kinds of topics cos he'll get seriously drilled grin
Then you went full ballistic !

jaephoenix:
You have no business with atheists but you're forever taunting, opening and getting into the faces of Muslims. Isn't that funny? The few times I have engaged you, you dodged. Be a man, grow a ball and engage atheists, you'll regret your life grin
Furthermore, you said:
jaephoenix:
Go through your posts and check where LordReed an I grilled you. And another where I and one another person( I think Workch) grilled you where you were talking about science but you got eaten alive. And said you have no business with atheists grin
I then TOLD You!

TenQ:
You made a Claim, prove it!

The childishness of Atheists like you is evermore glaring to see: when two people are contesting an issue and without a recourse to an unbiased judge or referee begin to claim and celebrate epic landslide victory is simply pathetic and laughable.at best.

I challenge you here again
1. Your evidence of how and when I ran away from debating you
2. An evidence that you won the debate by eating me alive.


Like I said: you aren't worth the trouble! You are a waste of time!
So, again I say to you

I challenge you here again
1. Your evidence of how and when I ran away from debating you
2. An evidence that you won the debate by eating me alive.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 7:21pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
DID YOU READ ANY OF THE 4 LINKS I DROPPED?
Mr Man, post the stuff here yourself.
I have gone through your links and can't find what I'm looking for- A case of SR of metastatic stage 4 cancer without therapy.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 11:15pm On Apr 25, 2023
Maynman:
It’s you that believe yahweh is omniscience and knows the future yet he doesn’t know destiny.
Is destiny not in the future?

Africa needs thinkers who are independent of religion.

I ask once again, define foreknowledge and destiny.
Does all knowing yahweh know the exact number of people that will go to hell?
Yahweh doesn't think sin, he's holy. He has no business with hell.
I already told u he sees every being he created in heaven, that's his plan for all men.
Its your choice to reject him and follow the path to hell.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 11:22pm On Apr 25, 2023
jaephoenix:
This is the exact reason Africa is the most backward continent. With the crap I'm getting from this discourse, its no wonder we're like this
Why should we bother, when Africa is destined to be poor according to you
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman:
My present choice will determine my future, does yahweh know the future?

SIRTee15:
Yahweh doesn't think sin, he's holy. He has no business with hell.
I already told u he sees every being he created in heaven, that's his plan for all men.
Its your choice to reject him and follow the path to hell.
Why then did yahweh send his child to earth if he doesn’t think sin?
Sin means disobedience to yahweh, so what you mean he doesn’t think sin?
Who created hell?
Who made satan the ruler of hell according to you?
When jesus died he took control of hell according to you right yet he doesn’t have business with hell? you keep contradicting yourself.

An omniscience god knows the exact number of people that will go to heaven or hell before he even created them.
A parents also sees all his children been successfully, that’s his plans for children But it may not work out because they are not omniscience, THAT IS WHY YAHWEH REGRETTED, HIS PLAN FAILED.
Your god is not all knowing and certainly can’t see the future.

Save yourself from ignorance, and look up on the origin of the word “hell”.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman:
SIRTee15:
Why should we bother, when Africa is destined to be poor according to you
Your yahweh knows the future according to you abi
How nigeria will turn out is in the future.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by KnownUnknown: 4:37am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
Yahweh doesn't think sin, he's holy. He has no business with hell.
I already told u he sees every being he created in heaven, that's his plan for all men.
Its your choice to reject him and follow the path to hell.
Lol
Scary Hebrew fairy
living in the sky
Throws a temper tantrum
if you tell a lie
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 8:52am On Apr 26, 2023
Maynman:
My present choice will determine my future, does yahweh know the future?



Why then did yahweh send his child to earth if he doesn’t think sin?
Sin means disobedience to yahweh, so what you mean he doesn’t think sin?
Who created hell?
Who made satan the ruler of hell according to you?
When jesus died he took control of hell according to you right yet he doesn’t have business with hell? you keep contradicting yourself.

An omniscience god knows the exact number of people that will go to heaven or hell before he even created them.
A parents also sees all his children been successfully, that’s his plans for children But it may not work out because they are not omniscience, THAT IS WHY YAHWEH REGRETTED, HIS PLAN FAILED.
Your god is not all knowing and certainly can’t see the future.

Save yourself from ignorance, and look up on the origin of the word “hell”.
Once again playing with words.
As I said earlier we Christians don't believe in a fixed destiny. Your choice is influence your destiny.
God also is forever shaping your destiny with the purpose of bringing u back into the fold. So foreknowledge to God is an active word, not static.
'Foreknowledge is destiny shaping! Speaking about God's foreknowledge is a way of expressing his eternal commitment to individuals as part of his determination to bring them to faith and to all the glories and benefits of Christ's work'
God is constantly reshaping our destiny no matter how complex or disappointing it is just like Jeremiah observed at the potter's house. Jeremiah 18.1-10


Jesus descended into Hades after his soul separated from his body carrying the sins of the world and to declare victory over death.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:12am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
Once again playing with words.
As I said earlier we Christians don't believe in a fixed destiny. Your choice is influence your destiny.
God also is forever shaping your destiny with the purpose of bringing u back into the fold. So foreknowledge to God is an active word, not static.
'Foreknowledge is destiny shaping! Speaking about God's foreknowledge is a way of expressing his eternal commitment to individuals as part of his determination to bring them to faith and to all the glories and benefits of Christ's work'
God is constantly reshaping our destiny no matter how complex or disappointing it is just like Jeremiah observed at the potter's house. Jeremiah 18.1-10


Jesus descended into Hades after his soul separated from his body carrying the sins of the world and to declare victory over death.
You said nothing. If my choices influences my destiny my future, how then does your god know the future?
does your god know the future?
Is your destiny not in the future?
If your god is constantly reshaping destiny that means revelation may not happen or that one is CERTAIN to happen in the FUTURE?

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 9:16am On Apr 26, 2023
Maynman:
You said nothing. If my choices influences my destiny my future, how then does your god know the future?
does your god know the future?
Is your destiny not in the future?
If your god is constantly reshaping destiny that means revelation may not happen or that one is CERTAIN to happen in the FUTURE?
You just here to argue not to understand or learn. Bye
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:18am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
You just here to argue not to understand or learn. Bye
You are the one that don’t understand what you are saying. You can’t defend what you base your life on.
You keep contradicting yourself
Is my destiny not in the future?
Does your god know the future?

And the jeremiah you brought in, is this potter all powerful and omniscience?
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman:
SIRTee15:
You just here to argue not to understand or learn. Bye
How can you go and prepare a place for people without knowing the EXACT number of people coming?
That’s a bad planner and it is a recipe for disaster, that’s why yahweh keeps regretting.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 9:33am On Apr 26, 2023
Maynman:
You are the one that don’t understand what you are saying. You can’t defend what you base your life on.
You keep contradicting yourself
Is my destiny not in the future?
Does your god know the future?

And the jeremiah you brought in, is this potter all powerful and omniscience?
What did God tell Jeremiah in chapter 18.5-10
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:35am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
What did God tell Jeremiah in chapter 18.5-10
Tell me what omniscience yahweh said.

You keep contradicting yourself, if not for religion you should see it.
Christians don’t believe in a fixed destiny but they believe yahweh to know the future where there destiny lies, think na
If the future is not fixed then how does yahweh know the future?
How sure is yahweh that revelation will come through since future is not fixed abi

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:47am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
What did God tell Jeremiah in chapter 18.5-10
Please look up on the origin of the word “destiny”.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/destiny

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 10:04am On Apr 26, 2023
Maynman:
Tell me what omniscience yahweh said.

You keep contradicting yourself, if not for religion you should see it.
Christians don’t believe in a fixed destiny but they believe yahweh to know the future where there destiny lies, think na
If the future is not fixed then how does yahweh know the future?
How sure is yahweh that revelation will come through since future is not fixed abi
This is your answer. Man don't have a fixed destiny as affirmed by God.

Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.

Now I asked your other fake atheist the question but refused to answer, maybe u can help.
An armed robber that got killed during robbery, was that his destiny given to him the day he was born?
A prostitute that got murdered by her client. Was she destined to be a prostitute and be killed during active service right form day one of her life as a baby.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 10:10am On Apr 26, 2023
SIRTee15:
This is your answer. Man don't have a fixed destiny as affirmed by God.

Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.

Now I asked your other fake atheist the question but refused to answer, maybe u can help.
An armed robber that got killed during robbery, was that his destiny given to him the day he was born?
A prostitute that got murdered by her client. Was she destined to be a prostitute and be killed during active service right form day one of her life as a baby.
Then your god is not omniscience and does not know the future, in other mythologies gods decide the fate of man.

“ Now I asked your other fake atheist the question but refused to answer, maybe u can help.
An armed robber that got killed during robbery, was that his destiny given to him the day he was born?
A prostitute that got murdered by her client. Was she destined to be a prostitute and be killed during active service right form day one of her life as a baby.”

Fake theist it’s you that believe yahweh is omniscience and knows everything.
You said he knows the FUTURE, so surely he knows who is a armed robber and prostitute in that FUTURE BEFORE he created them.

I ask you, does yahweh know the exact number of people that will go to hell or he is hoping nobody does?

Even the definition of destiny means “make firm, established”. It has already been DECIDED!

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