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Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:12pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: There is no meaning in the post rather than heresy.... so Jesus is no longer the son of God but a constitution... this is blasphemy... am done reading nonsense... you jehovah witnesses are the worst set of Christians I always come across... your doctrines are so annoying... you people should kukuma create your own world and religion. Period |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:13pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. The one arguing blindly here is you as you pretend to find faults when the faults are made by your person. The God who you pretend to attach yourself to made clear through those very prophets you listed earlier that no man can do what you claim to have done. So is this God a liar? You say no man can be God yet the same man said He would come down and do for His people what they have failed to do on their own. Since when did men begin to tell God what He can or cannot do? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Let me guess, you don't even understand what any of those prophets you referenced earlier were saying but you pretend they gave you permission to connect directly to God outside of that defined by God Himself? Are you for real? 2. Oh boy! I am not a Christian but a Jehovah witness. Stop digging these holes. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:19pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Look at you... keep going in circles... talking the words of men but thinking it is of God.... this idea of yours is why Nigerians have been enslaved by all these nonsense MOGs... I don't need any i..dio.tic fellow who calls himself man of God to preach God to me.... God transacts with man directly... if you don't know this then hold on to what you know... go and read your bible very well... go and meet your pastors and ask... you can't brainwash me like they did to you... your spell is not working... there are serious faults in your jargons so far... nobody is making those mistakes but you by yourself... go away joor |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:23pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: And that is my pain... you jehovah witnesses are a shame to christendom... that's why everybody hates you folks... just look at what you have been dishing out so far... you people have personality disorder syndrome... you don't call yourselves Christians... you have weird beliefs... who are you... what are you... what is your religion |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:25pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Do you mean the word of Moses, Elijah, and the prophets you mentioned earlier are now just mere words of men? 1950Mack:2. So, God was idiotic to have declared through the same prophets that He would come down to do His own work Himself? 3. Brainwash? I am asking you to actually read the book you keep pretending you know, and you think I am attempting to brainwash you by that? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:25pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: The prophets are just instances of how God transacts with men in the times of old... I operate with such grace and it works for me. And am not pretending... God answers my prayers more and faster than when I was attending church. Simple |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:27pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. But, God never directly accessed any of those prophets in the way you pretend yourself able to. So, what's clear is that the God you are accessing is definitely not the one spoken of by those same prophets. You are probably accessing something else which you keep confusing with the God of Scripture unless, of course, you believe instead that GOd is a liar! 2. I should also mention at this point that grace, as used in scripture, simply means eternal life, so? 3. As for answers to prayers, if your deity answers your prayers, that is fine but the God of scripture makes clear that He does not answer the prayers of those who are not first holy and righteous — abiding strictly by His Law and Constitution. So, you definitely aren't connecting with the same God of scripture. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:30pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Look... I don't fancy the bible... you can say whatever you like... keep insulting God by calling him idiotic From the conversations so far it appears I have bible knowledge more than you... my CRS is B2 in both waec and neco... yes... the words of the prophets are the words of men... period... but the prophets indeed existed... that's all I need... plus you are too small to fool me with your dogmas.... jehovah witnesses are a menace to christendom |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:36pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Hehehehehe... that is why I remain a mystery to people like you... you will never be able to understand... that is why people like you will forever be brainwashed... pastors will consume you like fast food for your lack of knowledge and understanding... so you're now in my mind now to know what I worship... you're drunk... people like you turn boko haram... what a st.upid religious extremist... stop quoting the scripture you don't even believe in... you jehovah witnesses have your own quack bible... talking of grace... you know nothing about it... you're a quack |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:38pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. I am not the one insulting the God of scripture here. You are by claiming you connect to Him via other means apart from that stipulated by Him. 2. Now the statements in bold are what can easily constitute a contradiction. 3. So, let me get these straight. These men existed as prophets but the words they spoke were of musings of the minds of ordinary men— opinions and nothing more? Yet you are here to convince us that by believing those opinions, you have been able to grasp God? Doesn't that sound like someone here needs his head checked? 4. fool you? I have no time for that as I am instead interested in your obtaining the true identity of what it is you have roaming around in your head there as it is definitely not the same God of scripture spoken of by men who you believe were also prophets. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:39pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. You are not a mystery to me as I have seen and listened to lots of folks like you in my time enough to realize the damage a lot of these absurd ideas of religion can afflict on the human mind. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:50pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Am sure you failed in your classes back in school... you lack the ability to reason effectively... if you must be a bigot be one with basic sense of reason... am still on my point from beginning... I haven't swayed atall, you're the one exhibiting religious madness... I don't fancy religion and everything it holds except God.... I only believe in God and engage him as he is directly... I don't use your beloved bible... no religious strings attached... how many times will I repeat these. Are they that hard to comprehend. When God has not condemned my approach who are you then to castigate me... a mere mortal. The grace and mercy of the most high shall depart from you this day for rebuking me. Ba.sta.rds like you claim God speaks through them when it is in fact the devil... you maim and destroy ignorant people with lousy gospel, you deceive, you steal... you will all perish from earth... no more judgment day. If you don't believe in personal encounter with God then go to hell. Your head is full of s.hi.t |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 11:52pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: People like me know better than you bigots... you only know how to recite scriptures yet are woefully lacking in Godliness. We shall forever be a surprise to you. Soon, your churches will become empty when more people realize your frauds, quote me today |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:58pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Access your own education while you are at it abeg! God of scripture talk say no man can approach him outside of His Covenants. You, however, labeled Him a liar by claiming you were able to approach Him outside of His Contracts/agreements/Covenants/Constitutional Laws. Why are you having a hard time comprehending the fact that either God is a liar or you are in this? 2. I never said God speaks through me to you since this entire conversation has instead been a battle between yourself and the prophets with you as the opposition since you oppose everything they said of God meaning you don't have access to the same God that they did. 3. It isn't a personal encounter that I don't believe in since God made clear that He will answer those who submit to and obey His contract or agreement or covenant or constitutional Law. It is instead your claim that you found a way around all of that to approach God that I don't believe at all. Again, enquire about the identity of the deity you have been in communication with. I can guarantee you that he is most definitely not the God of scripture. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 11:59pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Oh, so now I am a bigot for making clear the fact that your claims are in direct violation of scripture and hence you cannot in fact be speaking of the same God of scripture that the prophets did? 2. For the umpteenth time, I am not a Christian nor a churchian. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:02am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You're quite aggressive and totally irresponsible for a believer... better convert to Islam.... it suits you more... then head to sambisa to enrol in boko haram or iswap, I heard Taliban are also recruiting... fa.ke.a.s.s fanatic... Christian terrorist forcing beliefs on others... you're a big disgrace to christendom... when I was still attending church sef it was always preached that personal encounter with God is the best... you're now here turning things upside down in the name of phuck... tueh... I spit on your faith |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:07am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Notice how you have resorted to attacking my person rather than the points I keep stressing, the exact same tactic employed regularly by religious minds when they are cornered and their ignorance of God of scripture revealed. Are you really trying to get me to believe you don't see what you have been doing this last couple of posts? |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:11am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I said it... you're a failure If you can't believe it then leave it I am not interested in what your quack jehovah witness bible say... it is even obviously different from the bibles I used in school If I am indeed praying to a fetish diety then I pray for blessings to you and your kind, but if it be God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob I pray to, who all existed based on secular history apart from biblical accounts, then I curse you this day, with your kind. You need to be careful youngman. I've battled witches and wizards, in my family, outside my family. Twice I fought demons, physically like in prophetic churches. If I call on the devil as you think will I be able to triumph over all those challenges. You are letting me use the grace and authority vested in me for a bad course now. Stop this insanity. Stop it. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:14am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Yawn! 2. Now you reveal you even experience delusions.. great! We are finally getting somewhere in understanding your issue. 3. You need to ascertain the proper identity of the source of these delusions abeg. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:19am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You cornered nothing... you're only being adamant... same traits of religious extremists.... leave everyone alone to their faith. I am charismatic, am not a gentleman, when provoked I swear and curse, that is me. I kept my cool since but you're proving stubborn. Your argument is baseless. I met traditionalists who are more holy than so called pastors, they're doing well spiritually, some even study bibles. God works in a mysterious way, a so called sinner can be used as a vessel to do miracles, it has always happened, that is God for you, whether you believe in the bible or not God doesn't care, there are pastors and prophets in Nigeria who can't even read a bible, yet are working for God tremendously. I am not interested in religion. All these modern religions were forced on us. Leave everyone alone with their beliefs. This way the world will be peaceful. Get that into your head. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:21am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. All I have done is pose questions regarding the claims you yourself have made as far as you belief. Why you feel threatened by those questions is beyond me. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:24am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Since you never have such grace and will never, I don't expect any appreciation. Jehovah witnesses are demons with umbrellas, this is a known fact already. You don't believe in prophecies so as not to be exposed as demons, when in fact herbalists still try to read one's fortune and countenance and forsee their future, but you folks are spiritually weak... the only thing you know is the upside down meaning of the bible You're not getting anywhere except Sudan, go and find your source there. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:25am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. You are not making any sense. 2. Again, you are not making any sense. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:27am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: They're not questions but mockery. When you get an answer you make another mockery. You have persisted till now. If you can't accept one's beliefs and let them be then you're a typical extremist. You become a menace to the society. That is how Islamic terrorism works. Christians also have theirs, like you now for example. Yes, you're a Christian, because you believe in Jesus christ, that's the meaning of being a Christian, stop confusing yourself like you have been doing so far. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:30am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Yes, because you can't comprehend and interpret as usual You're so overwhelmed by your beliefs to the point of arrogance Hold your senses and leave mine alone. Thanks |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:32am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1. Mockery? Wow... so your ego is to be honored even above the God of Scripture is what you are insinuating ? 2. Again, that you feel threatened by the questions I continue to pose means you have no real confidence in your claims regarding the God of scripture. 3. I understand that you need me to be a Christian because even your attack scripts seem tailored to attacking them directly and not even their belief which you claimed earlier to be untrue. I guess much of that was more of ignorance than actual knowledge ok your part. Anyways, it is almost time for dinner so you can continue without me for now. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 12:34am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:1 . None of it has to do with a lack of comprehension on my part as I instead mean your are not making any sense given all that has been made clear to this point of the conversation. |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:41am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You're permitted to run away since you already lost Yes everyone has ego, I have too. It is your own dirty ego that makes you argue unnecessarily. Now you claim you're not a Christian, you're not a churchy... then why argue... you must be a terrorist who kills for no reason... we know your type I already gave you 1million confidence in my claims but your wacked ego will never make you accept Your mockery questions were not even close enough to be a threat If your God of the scripture doesn't relate with his creations directly then it is the devil instead... jehovah witnesses have their own god |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:43am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: It has a lot to do with lack of comprehension on your part, you were given full answers and illustrations but you're the type that even with expo written boldly before you you will still fail... you can't decipher the tiniest of details |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by 1950Mack: 12:46am On Apr 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: If you go out there and argue blindly like this you may not go home in one piece I tell you... go and try this with northern muslims for example... go and tell them Allah is not real God... I believe you know your fate already... terrorist |
Re: Can You Receive The Holy Spirit Without Speaking In Tongues? by Kobojunkie: 2:28am On Apr 28, 2023 |
1950Mack:OK |
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