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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 7:25pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
I will make it easy for u. Apologise to TenQ for calling him a liar. That was a mistake, u shouldn't have a problem apologising to him. Mention him and apologize.
But that we will continue that conversation without apology is a BIG NO.
Tag me when u done with the apology. My holiday is over, so can't keep up like b4.
Nice dodging technique. But what else do u expect from dumb ignorant chrissies.
Ok, when you apologize to me first, then I'll reciprocate. If u don't, then consider this our parting words, you quack. Next time chose who you cross swords with.
Lemme sit back and watch as Maynmann continue to school you on your own book.
Ciao cheesy
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 7:33pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
I already gave you the evidence. Who is serapis, start from there.

Antioch Now known as present day turkey.

Argue Nazarene about what?
What exactly is the arguement on nazarene?
You are the confused one.
I asked chatgpt if Serapis were ever called Christians.
Here is the response:

Were Serapis ever called Christians

No, Serapis was not called Christians. Serapis was a syncretic deity created by Ptolemy I of Egypt in the 3rd century BCE by combining elements of Greek and Egyptian religion. Serapis was associated with the underworld and the afterlife and was often depicted as a bearded man wearing a modius (a type of Egyptian headdress).

Christianity, on the other hand, emerged several centuries later in the 1st century CE in the Roman province of Judea. The term "Christian" was first used to describe the followers of Jesus Christ in the city of Antioch in the early years of the movement, as recorded in the New Testament book of Acts.

While there were many different religious and cultural influences present in the Roman Empire during this time, including the syncretic religion of Serapis, there is no evidence to suggest that early Christians were ever associated with this deity or called by this name.


So if Herod lived in Judea, how was he able to travel to Antioch in far away turkey looking for those to call Christians..
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 7:49pm On Apr 28, 2023
jaephoenix:
Nice dodging technique. But what else do u expect from dumb ignorant chrissies.
Ok, when you apologize to me first, then I'll reciprocate. If u don't, then consider this our parting words, you quack. Next time chose who you cross swords with.
Lemme sit back and watch as Maynmann continue to school you on your own book.
Ciao cheesy
Damage control after u've been bruised and battered till u became confused.
Why did u misquote TenQ. If I may ask? Did our username looked similar to u or we were troubling your life so much u made us one.
Anyway, let's find a way to close the case.
Do u know u admit that my index case is a metastatic fungating cervical cancer stage 4 WITHOUT TREATMENT. as clearly stated here by myself.
Besides the case u posted here as evidence is stage 3.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 8:07pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Agrippa ll was the one that referred to NAZARENE as christians first in antioch.
This statement is wrong, very wrong. U may want to correct yourself.
Even your evidence says you wrong.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:11pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
I asked chatgpt if Serapis were ever called Christians.
Here is the response:

Were Serapis ever called Christians

No, Serapis was not called Christians. Serapis was a syncretic deity created by Ptolemy I of Egypt in the 3rd century BCE by combining elements of Greek and Egyptian religion. Serapis was associated with the underworld and the afterlife and was often depicted as a bearded man wearing a modius (a type of Egyptian headdress).

Christianity, on the other hand, emerged several centuries later in the 1st century CE in the Roman province of Judea. The term "Christian" was first used to describe the followers of Jesus Christ in the city of Antioch in the early years of the movement, as recorded in the New Testament book of Acts.

While there were many different religious and cultural influences present in the Roman Empire during this time, including the syncretic religion of Serapis, there is no evidence to suggest that early Christians were ever associated with this deity or called by this name.


So if Herod lived in Judea, how was he able to travel to Antioch in far away turkey looking for those to call Christians..
I said followers of serapis are called christians.
Agrippa was reigning over territories outside of judea.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 8:12pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Damage control after u've been bruised and battered till u became confused.
Why did u misquote TenQ. If I may ask? Did our username looked similar to u or we were troubling your life so much u made us one.
Anyway, let's find a way to close the case.
Do u know u admit that my index case is a metastatic fungating cervical cancer stage 4 WITHOUT TREATMENT. as clearly stated here by myself.
Besides the case u posted here as evidence is stage 3.
1. Bros, our discourse was on SR not on stage 4 SR, stop shifting the goalpost. Besides, late stages have SR as documented by journals
2. Whether it misquoted TenQ or not, is irrelevant. Dont bring up irrelevancies just like I don't bring up any which you have committed here, but I overlook
3. I can equally tell you I have a late stage prostatic CA with a SR just like you quoted your own late stage cervical CA with SR, without any evidence. But in my own case I brought out evidence from medical journals.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:13pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Christianity, on the other hand, emerged several centuries later in the 1st century CE in the Roman province of Judea. The term "Christian" was first used to describe the followers of Jesus Christ in the city of Antioch in the early years of the movement, as recorded in the New Testament book of Acts.
Who was the person that used it to describe followers of jesus?

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:14pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
This statement is wrong, very wrong. U may want to correct yourself.
Even your evidence says you wrong.
It’s right.
Point the evidence out

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:15pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Bart Erhman didn't finally admit, he was consistent in his writings that the core message was the same in all manuscripts.
Note, he didn't say it was accurate or true but that the core gospel message was stable in all manuscripts over the years. These has been the central theme in all his works.
Get his book, misquoting jesus, Jesus interrupted, triumph of Christianity. Not sure if their are free pdf.

This is an except from misquoting Jesus, conclusion chapter.

To be sure, of all the hundreds of thousands of textual changes found among our manuscripts, most of them are completely insignificant, immaterial, of no real importance for anything other than showing that scribes could not spell or keep focused any better than the rest of us'
Bert Erhman.

In Jesus interrupted, chapter 2 of the book, titled "The Historical Jesus: What We Can Know and How We Know It," Ehrman writes:

"At the heart of Jesus' message was an announcement that God's kingdom was soon to arrive on earth. This was a time of cosmic crisis, when God was going to intervene in history to overthrow the forces of evil and establish a new order of righteousness and justice. In order to prepare for this coming of God's kingdom, people needed to repent of their sins, turn to God, and live a life of holiness and devotion."
He didn’t finally admit again according to what you said earlier? cheesy
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:19pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
I asked chatgpt if Serapis were ever called Christians.
Here is the response:
.
Ask chatgpt about israelite god, yahweh and his wife, Asheerah.
It will fasten the education.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 8:44pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Ask chatgpt about israelite god, yahweh and his wife, Asheerah.
It will fasten the education.
But have we settled the matter on the identity of early Christians or u want to argue with artificial intelligence.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:44pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
But have we settled the matter on the identity of early Christians or u want to argue with artificial intelligence.
Which identity of early Christians? That they were called Nazarene?
Better ask chatgpt about what christ means.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 8:48pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
He didn’t finally admit again according to what you said earlier? cheesy
This is the one I want to share.

In his book "Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them)," Ehrman writes:

"Despite the differences in detail and perspective among the Gospel accounts, the core message of Jesus and his followers remains constant: God's kingdom is at hand, and people need to repent and prepare for its coming."
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:48pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
This is the one I want to share.

In his book "Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them)," Ehrman writes:

"Despite the differences in detail and perspective among the Gospel accounts, the core message of Jesus and his followers remains constant: God's kingdom is at hand, and people need to repent and prepare for its coming."
He didn’t say anything about manuscript here.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
It’s right.
Point the evidence out
Herod couldn't have been the first to call Jesus followers Christians. He doesn't live in Antioch.

I'm talking about your Wikipedia evidence that talked about Herod aggripa
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 8:51pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Who was the person that used it to describe followers of jesus?
Definitely not Herod, read the sentence properly. U can ask jaephoenix for help.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:51pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Herod couldn't have been the first to call Jesus followers Christians. He doesn't live in Antioch.

I'm talking about our Wikipedia evidence that talked about Herod aggripa
Herod Agrippa ll was the one that called paul and his followers christians in antioch.
He governs outside judea.
This is a christian site please read, https://www.gotquestions.org/Herod-Agrippa-II.html

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 8:53pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Definitely not Herod, read the sentence properly. U can ask jaephoenix for help.
It was herod Agrippa ll.

Read!

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 9:31pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
It was herod Agrippa ll.

Read!
In Antioch? That's my question. Did he call Jesus followers Christian in Antioch?
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 9:34pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Herod Agrippa ll was the one that called paul and his followers christians in antioch.
He governs outside judea.
This is a christian site please read, https://www.gotquestions.org/Herod-Agrippa-II.html
Herod aggripa 2 never lived in Antioch. He lived in Palestine.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:35pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
In Antioch? That's my question. Did he call Jesus followers Christian in Antioch?
Yea, Agrippa ll was talking to paul in antioch.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 9:37pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Herod aggripa 2 never lived in Antioch. He lived in Palestine.
He governs outside of judea.
Can you show me where he lived in palestine.
In AD 66 he fled FROM Jerusalem.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Ken4Christ: 9:45pm On Apr 28, 2023
jaephoenix:
The Noodly Limbs of my Lord God the Flying Spaghetti Monster would grip and squeeze you before frying you in hell
You are boasting of an unknown demon. Go ahead.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Ken4Christ: 9:47pm On Apr 28, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol. You're indeed slow. Did you see the body of my Flying Spaghetti Monster?
I seriously think you are mentally unstable. No need to converse with you. Otherwise, I will be bringing myself to your low level.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
He governs outside of judea.
Can you show me where he lived in palestine.
In AD 66 he fled FROM Jerusalem.
He never lived in or governed over Antioch. Antioch was outside of his jurisdiction.
He lived in caesarea and Jerusalem when he was king.
His initially ruled Chalcis which is in modern day Syria. Later he ruled over some areas in Galilee and Palestine including Jerusalem.
He had no business with Antioch and wasnt the first person to call Jesus followers Christians in Antioch.
U reading your Wikipedia evidence wrong.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 10:12pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
He never lived in or governed over Antioch. Antioch was outside of jurisdiction.
He lived in caesarea and Jerusalem when he was king.
His initially ruled Chalcis which is in modern day Syria. Later he ruled over some areas in Galilee and Palestine including Jerusalem.
He had no business with Antioch and wasnt the first person to call Jesus followers Christians in Antioch.
U reading your Wikipedia evidence wrong.
Where was Agrippa ll talking to paul?

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 10:21pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Yea, Agrippa ll was talking to paul in antioch.
U obviously reading the bible upside down.
Paul was defending his case in front of Herod Agrippa 2, Festus and Bernice in Caesarea. Read acts 25, I'm not quoting anything.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 10:22pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
Where was Agrippa ll talking to paul?
Paul was standing trial in Caesarea not Antioch.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 10:24pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
U obviously reading the bible upside down.
Paul was defending his case in front of Herod Agrippa 2, Festus and Bernice in Caesarea. Read acts 25, I'm not quoting anything.
It was Agrippa ll that called them christian first in antioch, the funny thing is he called them “Chrestians”.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 10:25pm On Apr 28, 2023
SIRTee15:
Paul was standing trial in Caesarea not Antioch.
It was Agrippa ll that called them chrestian in antioch.

Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 11:28pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
It was Agrippa ll that called them christian first in antioch, the funny thing is he called them “Chrestians”.
Show me where Herod's name is mentioned in that verse.
U just drowning and holding to anything to safe face. Nobody knows it all but u atheist are something else, u want to proof u are the best and never wrong. Nobody here cares, the only thing we have for u guys is pity.
U guys get caught and u start damage control.
U were wrong on John copying mark
U were wrong on serapis being called Christians
And u wrong that Herod called Jesus followers Christians in Antioch.
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by SIRTee15: 11:33pm On Apr 28, 2023
Maynman:
It was Agrippa ll that called them chrestian in antioch.
I think English language comprehension is part of your problem.
This is the Wikipedia source that you ve been quoting up and down.

It is traditionally translated as "a man from Nazareth"; the plural Nazōraioi would mean "men from Nazareth". The title is first applied to the Christians by Tertullus (Acts 24:5), though Herod Agrippa II (Acts 26:28) uses the term "Christians" which had first been used at Antioch (Acts 11:26).

It says Herod Agrippa used the term in acts 26.28 but had been used previously by other people in Antioch.
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