RenegadeX:
■ What is this verse please
Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

Always, I repeat, always read a verse in context so you do not get taken for a fool by the delusions in your own mind. The entirety of the context tells you instead that it is God's declaration against the people of Israel for refusing to obey Him.

19 “The Lord saw this and became upset. His sons and daughters made him angry!
20 So he said, ‘I will turn away from them, then let’s see what happens! They are a rebellious people. They are like children who will not learn their lessons.
21 They made me jealous with things that are not really gods. They made me angry with their worthless idols. So I will use people who are not really a nation to make them jealous. I will use a worthless nation to make them angry.
22 My anger will burn like a fire, burning down to the deepest grave, burning the earth and all it produces, burning deep down below the mountains.
23 “‘I will bring troubles to the Israelites. I will shoot all my arrows at them.
24 They will become thin from hunger. Terrible diseases will destroy them. I will send wild animals against them. Poisonous snakes and lizards will bite them.
25 In the streets, soldiers will kill them. In their houses, terrible things will happen. Soldiers will kill young men and women. They will kill babies and old people.
26 “‘I thought about destroying the Israelites so that people would forget them completely!
27 But I know what their enemies would say. The enemy would not understand. They would brag and say, “The Lord did not destroy Israel. We won by our own power!”’
28 “They are foolish. They don’t understand.
29 If they were wise, they would understand; they would know what would happen to them.
30 Can one person chase away 1000 men? Can two men cause 10,000 men to run away? It will happen only if the Lord gives them to their enemy. This will happen only if their Rock sells them like slaves.
31 The ‘rock’ of our enemies is not strong like our Rock. Even our enemies know that.
32 Their vines and fields will be destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. Their grapes are like bitter poison.
33 Their wine is like the poison of deadly snakes.
34 “The Lord says, ‘I am saving that punishment. I have it locked up in my storehouse!
35 I will punish them for the bad things they did. But I am saving that punishment for when they slip and do bad things. Their time of trouble is near. Their punishment will come quickly.’
36 “The Lord will judge his people. They are his servants, and he will show them mercy. He will see that their power is gone. He will see that they are all helpless— the slaves and free people too.
37 Then the Lord will say, ‘Where are the false gods? Where is the “rock” that you ran to for protection?
38 Those false gods ate the fat of your sacrifices. And they drank the wine of your offerings. So let them get up and help you! Let them protect you! - Deuteronomy 32 vs 19 - 38

Stop with the attempts to inject what are your private delusions in between the lines of scripture and begin today allowing Scripture to speak for itself.

RenegadeX:
■ Where exactly are you? I need to feel your neck with the back of my palm. They were duds indeed

Even Isaac's blessing on Jacob was not realized. In Scripture, God is the only one with the power to bless and curse.

Kobojunkie:
Even Isaac's blessing on Jacob was not realized. In Scripture, God is the only one with the power to bless and curse.

Okay babe I have heard you, l have headache I no fit follow you Dey argue.

Goodnight honey

RenegadeX:
■ Okay babe I have heard you

For some reason, I seriously doubt that! Stopping you guys from spreading these fallacies you hold to is like an exercise in whack-a-mole. You stop 'em here, they pop up elsewhere spreading the same lies.

Kobojunkie:
For some reason, I seriously doubt that! Stopping you guys from spreading these fallacies you hold to is like an exercise in whack-a-mole. You stop 'em here, they pop up elsewhere spreading the same lies.

I know you don’t go to church that’s why you twist scriptures

RenegadeX:
■ I know you don’t go to church that’s why you twist scriptures

I challenge you to show what specific scripture I twisted here.

Kobojunkie:
I challenge you to show me what scripture I twisted here.

You are a vibe

I wish we could do this in reality seeing each other. You must be a good debater

GodWrites:


What an intelligent robot.

I doubt.

An insensitive, unfeeling robot!

DownTime44

I suggest you will mention your state of residence, who knows help may come through nairaland.

placeofallure:


I doubt.

An insensitive, unfeeling robot!

Because I'm against breeding kids without adequately caring for them?

I only pity the kids you will bring into poverty.

Mrs. Sensitive

GodWrites:


Because I'm against breeding kids without adequately caring for them?

I only pity the kids you will bring into poverty.

Mrs. Sensitive

You Dey answer them

Their own is to knack and bring innocent soul that they have no plans for to suffer

DownTime44:
Seriously I'm tired myself. He was sick recently that i had to empty my little savings for his treatment. You needed to see him physical. I bought him blood tonic and provisions. Things i can't even get for myself. He literally made me forgot myself because of his condition.

Whenever i remember having a brother like that, tears flow from my eyes.

You're a graduate and live in Lagos yea?

If you have basic IT skills(excel issh) send me your CV. DM me and I will send a mail for you to send it.

Olarewaju89:
Being the first born and first son in a poor family like this is a serious issue. Don't blame your brother too much pls. It is a spiritual things and he need a deliverance and serious councils.

To be honest with you, your mother has a lot to do in this matter not you.

I won't go further than this.

You are a very foolish person for talking about spiritual problems and deliverance. Mad man.

saasala:


You are a very foolish person for talking about spiritual problems and deliverance. Mad man.

It really is disheartening that in 2023 a Nigerian with internet access will say this and 134 people have actually liked the post.

Yes I agree the OP is not to blame but neither is this the time to blame his mother or other member of the family. This is issue is more than them. He's come for help, what he needs is suggestions and assistance.

How is this a spiritual problem? Yes, spiritual in terms of the nature of man is lawlessness which is why in a country as blessed as Nigeria with natural resources, good weather, excellent location and youthful population a 2.1 graduate can't get a job talk-less of an able bodied man of 38yrs old.

OP, please PM me, I'll send you a small token.
My prayer and desire is that someone on here offers your brother and yourself a job.
Can he cook well? Can he drive? Can he sew? What does he have passion in? Do churches around you offer training?
There's a dispatch company I use based in Magodo and I know the lady is currently looking for more riders.
OP, also consider messaging active companies on Instagram and Twitter for roles.
I pray The Lord raises more helpers for your family iJn.

GodWrites:


Because I'm against breeding kids without adequately caring for them?

I only pity the kids you will bring into poverty.

Mrs. Sensitive

You don turn am to fight because I don't share your opinion...

That's it! A further prove that you're nothing but a cold, heartless, inconsiderate and a thoughtless fool!
People plan their lives but things head southwards, not because they're not careful planners but because God above all. If things are good for you be thankful, don't see others as idiots. The race is not to the swift, time and chance happen to them all; remember that always.

As for me, I've kissed poverty goodbye. I'm good and so is my boo. Our kids are good. You should pity your kids who will be unfortunate to have an imbecilic nincompoop as a father. Radarada!

saasala:


You are a very foolish person for talking about spiritual problems and deliverance. Mad man.

Thank you bro.

RenegadeX:


If you have deeply hurt anyone in the past especially an innocent person that didn’t harm you karma is damn coming after you. All these talks of is only mother that can curse. Use it to be consoling yourself. If things are not going well for you and you are encountering setbacks better go and beg the person you offended. Perhaps you slept with a child of God’s wife and he caught you with her on his bed and he issued a curse on you. Baba e go work stop giving yourself false hope okay. Make restitutions so your life can move forward.

Yes I place success every morning on myself and I see the result. People that have done good to me I have prayed for them and blessed them and they are doing fine.

One thing about cursed people is that they are very stubborn . They will never agree that it was the words issued against them that is working. They will say it’s coincidence that bad things happen to good people at times too.

Oga I repeat their are people you don’t mess with. Karma responds to their cries fast. And you must be a child to think only parents can curse. Go and steal the elderly money living in your street na or steal their fowl. Dey play

Oga don’t quote me again. E be like say na all this unruly small pikin you be like the good for nothing I have as younger brother

LOl

That means over 133 million Nigerians living below poverty are cursed? Make i no argue with you again jare.

Damilolly:


It really is disheartening that in 2023 a Nigerian with internet access will say this and 134 people have actually liked the post.

Yes I agree the OP is not to blame but neither is this the time to blame his mother or other member of the family. This is issue is more than them. He's come for help, what he needs is suggestions and assistance.

How is this a spiritual problem? Yes, spiritual in terms of the nature of man is lawlessness which is why in a country as blessed as Nigeria with natural resources, good weather, excellent location and youthful population a 2.1 graduate can't get a job talk-less of an able bodied man of 38yrs old.

OP, please PM me, I'll send you a small token.
My prayer and desire is that someone on here offers your brother and yourself a job.
Can he cook well? Can he drive? Can he sew? What does he have passion in? Do churches around you offer training?
There's a dispatch company I use based in Magodo and I know the lady is currently looking for more riders.
OP, also consider messaging active companies on Instagram and Twitter for roles.
I pray The Lord raises more helpers for your family iJn.

God bless you ma for helping. This is what is expected of us to do. We shouldn't be arguing over something else please. How can Op and his brother escape this condition they are into. That should be a major concern. Also, if any of us have something to give. Please let's give out

God bless you ma for this.

Coolgent:
DownTime44

I suggest you will mention your state of residence, who knows help amy come through nairaland.

I live in Lagos

Damilolly:


It really is disheartening that in 2023 a Nigerian with internet access will say this and 134 people have actually liked the post.

Yes I agree the OP is not to blame but neither is this the time to blame his mother or other member of the family. This is issue is more than them. He's come for help, what he needs is suggestions and assistance.

How is this a spiritual problem? Yes, spiritual in terms of the nature of man is lawlessness which is why in a country as blessed as Nigeria with natural resources, good weather, excellent location and youthful population a 2.1 graduate can't get a job talk-less of an able bodied man of 38yrs old.

OP, please PM me, I'll send you a small token.
My prayer and desire is that someone on here offers your brother and yourself a job.
Can he cook well? Can he drive? Can he sew? What does he have passion in? Do churches around you offer training?
There's a dispatch company I use based in Magodo and I know the lady is currently looking for more riders.
OP, also consider messaging active companies on Instagram and Twitter for roles.
I pray The Lord raises more helpers for your family iJn.

Your household will not know shame. Thank you so much for coming through

0048307786 Johnson Anthonia
Stambic ibtc

Tealcrestmedia:


You're a graduate and live in Lagos yea?

If you have basic IT skills(excel issh) send me your CV. DM me and I will send a mail for you to send it.

I sent you a mail sir. Thank you so much.

It is well, I just wish u can just add your struggle with serious commitment in any Bible believing church around you for things to turn around for you and your family.

VTJN:
Op don't owe anyone apology. Stop living in fools paradise. He did no wrong

If you need wisdom to deal with this kind of situation, ask from God and look at matured people's behaviors before you ignorantly get hacked by a bitter siblings. So you won't call a faceless person a fool again, lad.

Uten9z:
It is well, I just wish u can just add your struggle with serious commitment in any Bible believing church around you for things to turn around for you and your family.

For what particular reason or purpose? Have things turned around for the 10s of thousands of people who crowd into your churches every week in that same Nigeria? I hope you are not suggesting they go join your prayer ropes?

You see, Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition, praise, offering, work, plea, sacrifice, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of plea. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you really don't understand or know God at all. undecided

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who are loved by Him. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness in order that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. And as Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the one and only path to righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

God deals indirectly with the unrighteous, the same way He deals with the unbelievers including the wicked and the ungrateful and that is by pouring out His mercy and kindness on them daily. So every time as an unrighteous you feel that God has answered your prayer know that at that same moment, or moments before that, God also provided the same mercy or similar to someone else across the world — or maybe just across from you— who does not even believe in God, nor asked God for anything. So, if answers from God are what you seek, then do what Jesus Christ said you should, which is to seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and then God's righteousness, in order that all these things —the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(including answers to prayers) can be added to you.

So, going around, telling people in their unrighteous bloom to pray for this and that as part of the solution to their real-life problem amounts to prescribing they add more stress and meaninglessness to their already stress-filled situation. If you ask me, it is a very wicked thing to do.

obama99:


If you need wisdom to deal with this kind of situation, ask from God and look at matured people's behaviors before you ignorantly get hacked by a bitter siblings. So you won't call a faceless person a fool again, lad.

I didn't mean to call you a fool. I'm sorry

placeofallure:


You don turn am to fight because I don't share your opinion...

That's it! A further prove that you're nothing but a cold, heartless, inconsiderate and a thoughtless fool!
People plan their lives but things head southwards, not because they're not careful planners but because God above all. If things are good for you be thankful, don't see others as idiots. The race is not to the swift, time and chance happen to them all; remember that always.

As for me, I've kissed poverty goodbye. I'm good and so is my boo. Our kids are good. You should pity your kids who will be unfortunate to have an imbecilic nincompoop as a father. Radarada!

Try again

ethan101:
well, there is noway he would have abandon that conductor work since he didnt have any other thing at hand as at then, Now that he has lost the conductor work, did he find anything? NO. Dont blame him bro. how can i contact him... i have a job for him by Gods grace

good morning sir

I sent you a mail.

gazilion:
DownTime44:
Bros, are you married?
Is your elder brother married?
Who pays the house rent where he lives now?
What part of Lagos do u and your brother live?
Are you the owner of the pure water business?
what did u study in the university?

good morning sir

I am not married,
My elder brother isn't married either
We do contribute to pay the house rent
We live in Ojo, Lagos
I am not the owner of the pure water business. I worked there as a labourer after my youth service
I studied Geography and Regional Planning at the university

Thank you.

DownTime44:
Hi guys


Please i put up this post basically because of my elder brother. I sincerely want to know if i was wrong talking to him, or I could have just let him be. I wasn't myself ever since i talked to him, and i was somewhat having guilty conscience since then.


I have an elder brother, he's 38 years old and also the first son. I am the fourth child in the family of five. The second child is a female and she's married. We lost our third child, that's my immediate elder brother some years back, while i have a younger brother. I came from a humble background. Lost my dad while i was in JS 3, even before his death we had been hustling on a daily basis for survival, and we live happily as one big family. My mother, siblings and i do hawk daily before we could eat. All thanks to public school in Lagos, my family wouldn't have had the opportunity to basic education. We hawk daily after school, weekdays and weekend. My family was bred and brought up in Ajegunle.


Few years after the demise of my father, we struggled to pay house rent. We had to leave Ajegunle to a local and developing area. I didn't allow my family conditions deter or weigh me down. Never! I believe I'd make it in life legitimately without venturing into crime, fraud, theft etc. After my secondary school, i was into all sorts of labour work. I worked in factory, building site, cleared bushes, laundry man , just to save up and further my education. I worked for 6 years after my secondary school, bought a bike from the little savings i had and proceed to school through jamb. I gave the bike to someone who often deliver #6,000 weekly for the upkeep of my family. I was in year 2 when i let go of the bike, it was on a higher purchase and the agreement we have had elapsed. I hustled my way through school and graduated. I'm done with service last year but couldn't land a job, probably due to my age. I'd be 29 this year and most graduate trainee often request for age below 28. Although, i had a 2.1. I'm only managing in a pure water factory to make ends meet, keep soul and body together and support my family


I sat my elder brother down and talked to him. He has been hustling like every other person in the family but i don't understand what's happening. He didn't futher his education nor learn a handwork. He's 38 but still live under his parents roof. He has been doing conductor work for many years. The family had talked to him several times to look for something else. It's fine you are hustling as a man for survival but doing conductor for many years without thinking of what else to do is wrong. A family friend of ours who later got to know what he does for a living had advice him also.


The bus he was following, the driver had misunderstanding with the owner and he collected his bus back. My elder brother had been idle for months, doing nothing. He claimed he has gone virtually everywhere in search of bus he could be working with but couldn't get any. This is a family that we all had to bring something no matter how little to survive. I was talking to him as a younger brother. I asked him why didn't he heed to people's advice when they were advising him then to stop the conductor work and look for something to learn, if perhaps he doesn't want to further his education? He doesn't believe in Nigeria education, because he could count graduates without job or those with petty job. My elder brother wear almost rag as clothes. I had to give him some of my little wears I'm managing. He has just one slippers. We don't wear same size of shoe or sandals, we could have been sharing that also. He sold his phone to feed sometime ago and had been without phone. I was initially saving to get my mum a small phone but i had to give him the phone instead.


He was crying when i was talking to him. I understand the situation of things in the country, which i myself is going through. I was just trying to know what other things he could come up with. I am not happy seeing him sitting idle doing nothing. The fact that he's the first son and found himself in this condition at that age breaks my heart daily. My mum had been so worried about his condition. I had to convince her that things will be better. I don't want her to develop high Blood Pressure that could lead to her untimely death.


Please guys was i wrong talking to my elder brother?

I wish my elder brother is still alive 😔

Kobojunkie:
Even Isaac's blessing on Jacob was not realized. In Scripture, God is the only one with the power to bless and curse.

Hiaaaan. Kobo a biakwala ozo

DownTime44:
Thank you so much sir. Mine was Idewu street, Ajegunle.

0048307786 Stambic ibtc
Anthonia Johnson

Anthonia is a female name but you say you're male...

The best part is that l didn't read that he is into any crime.