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There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by lhordspy: 9:11pm On May 23, 2023
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:
"The Ukraine’s military effort is doomed and sending further aid will only lead to more deaths."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ukraine-can-t-win-war-against-russia-hungarian-premier-says

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Looking at the reality, the figures, the surroundings, the fact that NATO is not ready to send troops, it is obvious that there is no victory for the poor Ukrainians on the battlefield. That’s my position,” The Hungary Prime Minister, whose country is a member of EU and NATO declares.

The war can be stopped only if the Russians can make an agreement with the US. In Europe, we are not happy with that, but it’s the only way out.”

Hungary, which is an EU and NATO member, has been playing a balancing act since the war in Ukraine began.

Budapest has refused to break ties with Moscow and has opposed NATO enlargement. Like Turkey, Hungary has not yet ratified Sweden’s membership of the military alliance and Orban has laid out specific concerns on Ukraine’s NATO hopes.

A populist, the 59-year-old often heats up debates in Brussels whenever the bloc is tasked with making unanimous decisions on tougher sanctions against Russia or more financial and military aid to Ukraine.

Last week, Orban opposed sending more EU military aid to Ukraine after authorities in Kyiv put Hungary’s OTP Bank on a list of “war sponsors” and blacklisted the bank.

In Doha, Orban said that if Ukraine needs more money, Kyiv should respect Hungary and not sanction Hungarian companies.

He added that Budapest “does not belong to the mainstream European approach”.

“Hungary is in a unique position as Ukraine is not far away. We have ethnic minorities living in Ukraine and they are part of the war. They are conscripted, they are soldiers in the Ukrainian army and they die. So we lose lives – Hungarian lives – as well,” he said, referring to ethnic Hungarians within Ukraine.

“Our hearts are with the Ukrainians. We understand how much has happened,” he said. “But I am speaking here as a politician and the solution is to save lives.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by lhordspy: 9:11pm On May 23, 2023
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have been disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by RingRoadMafia: 9:13pm On May 23, 2023
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by God1000(m): 9:13pm On May 23, 2023
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Acekidc4(m): 9:18pm On May 23, 2023
Ukraine wey don Jonz tey tey.............. Their Comedian President don use them do comedy show to his Western Masters.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by lhordspy: 9:24pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You can't invade my country, kill my people, destroy the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you

Anyone who opposes the experiment NATO is using the innocent Ukrainian lives to carry out ;is automatically a PUTIN friend ?. Lol

Mr Man. Hungary is a member of not just EU but NATO. Man is trying to tell the world members of NATO are tired of financing a lost cause. US and UK are on their own.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by God1000(m): 9:28pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:


Anyone who opposes the experiment NATO is using the innocent Ukrainian lives to carry out ;is automatically a PUTIN friend. Lol

Mr Man. Hungary is a member of not just EU but NATO. Man is trying to tell the world members of NATO are tired of financing a lost cause.
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by lhordspy: 9:34pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian president is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone


I am not arguing with you Mr. Man, I only asked a question. I have gone through that path so many times. It is of no use. I know better this time.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by God1000(m): 9:45pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:


I am not arguing with you Mr. Man, I only asked a question. I have gone through that path so many times. It is of no use. I know better this time.

There's no need for any argument, you have decided to side with the evil and darkness, but light will surely prevail

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Antiochus(m): 9:45pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian president is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone


Let your posterity start with all U.S presidents that have ordered the invasion of weaker countries since mid 19th century down to Libya. Mr Posterity.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by God1000(m): 9:48pm On May 23, 2023
Antiochus:


Let your posterity start with all U.S presidents that have ordered the invasion of weaker countries since mid 19th century down to Libya. Mr Posterity.
And you think Russia has never committed atrocities in other countries, almost all the empires throughout human history are guilty of that.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Antiochus(m): 9:48pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian president is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone


You called him a hypocrite because he was smart enough not to hurt his country's economy by joining US vassals to sanction Russia. They Wanted him to stop buying Russian oil that his country relies on heavily but he said capital NO.

How is he a hypocrite he had been stating the fact and obvious since the beginning of the war by saying Ukraine cannot win that NATO and Ukraine should sue for peace.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Antiochus(m): 9:50pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
And you think Russia has never committed atrocities in other countries, almost all the empires in human history are guilty of that.

Name them. Please name the atrocities Russia had comitted in other countries. And at what time did they commit it in history.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Neddstark: 9:52pm On May 23, 2023
America and the West don't want Russia to take the Donbass so easily, that is why they are using Ukrainians to make it difficult for the Russians and frustrate them out of there.
Same thing America tried to do when Russia tried to invade Afghanistan in the 80s.
The only difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine is that one wasn't for a good cause while the other is for a good cause. The people of the Donbass deserve to leave Ukraine since Ukraine has chosen to war on them since 2014.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by MrBanner(m): 9:53pm On May 23, 2023
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:53pm On May 23, 2023
Hh

" It was the Russians that tore the guts of the Germany Army" - Sir Winston Churchill.


Let this sink to President Zelensky and all those who would like to hate to subscribe to the above undeniably fact.

A private army has crushed a nato army let that sink in...

Lol

As Crimea gone forever likewise Bakmut and other Ukraine lands are gone forever.

according US General Christopher Cavoli who has recently testified that Russia are winning and have been largely unaffected in military strength

US can't keep up, can't compete, can't improve... Export only wars and killing people.. This won't help USA to be independent no nation wants to be part of it secretly... So the outcome is to create Armageddon, in this one beautiful planet we live in.....

But they will be crushed in this 21 century

USA evil nato that few years ago ran away from Afghanistan farmers lol and taliban killed many USA military men that day they ran away from Afghanistan..


God bless putin God bless mother Russia.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:53pm On May 23, 2023
US over hyped F series Jets some major mishaps since 2020 among many :😂

2023:
May: F16 crashed in SK😂
F18 crashed in Spain😂
2022:
Jan: F35A belly danced crash in SK😂
F16V crashed in Taiwan 😂
F35C crashed in south China sea😂
Mar: F16 crashed in Louisiana(US)😂

2021

Jul: F16A crashed in Belgium 😂
Nov: F35B crashed in Mediterranean😂

2020:
Jan: F16 crashed in Egypt😂
MAY: F22 crashed in Florida😂
F35 crashed in US😂
Jun: F15c crashed in Northsea😂
Sep: F35B crashed in California😂

Oct: F/A-18E crashed in California 😂
Dec: F16 crashed in Michigan


So many wonder weapons have actually failed on the battle field, even the Patriot system failed. F-16 is an old fighter jet, next will be F-35, after that what next? Will you end up giving them nuclear weapons? When will you realize that Ukraine is no match for Russia? The Russians have only shown you one wonder weapon which you can't comprehend.
Which is the ultimate non hyperbolic hypersonic weapon..


Military 101
How You win a war before you fight a war

Jesus said to win a war you must have more men than the other side and which shows you must have more weapons than the other one if not seek peace quickly least you be destroyed.

Luke 14
31 “Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32 If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace.



God bless putin God bless mother Russia.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Adjovi: 9:55pm On May 23, 2023
Only an idiot will in the first place expect Ukraine to beat Russia in battle.....NATO cannot save Ukraine the earlier Ukraine goes back to the Minsk agreement the better for them. NATO cannot do more than they are doing. The fighter jets they want to give Ukraine stands no chance against Russias air defence system which is the best air defence system in the world ahead of Israel's iron Dome self. The more the war rages on, the tighter the doors of peace closes on Ukraine.......

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by StudyBarn: 9:56pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You can't invade my country, kill my people, destroy the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you




Lol. Putin is not withdrawing. Ukraine cannot be used to contain Russia without been reduced to rubble.

Negotiate, give up Donbass, be neutral and disarm then peace.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bolodo: 9:57pm On May 23, 2023
Ok
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bigmouth3: 9:57pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You can't invade my country, kill my people, destroy the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you



This Ukraine war shows the level of intelligence of so many people .
Why can't you ask why nato is encircling Russia?
What happened to the agreement of not expanding East wards ?
Will America allow Canada or Mexico to have a Russian base there ?
Have yoy ever asked how a pro Russian president was removed by America and install their puppet ?
Have you ever read about the cuban missle crisis ?

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TurnOver77: 9:58pm On May 23, 2023
War is not good

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Karnice600: 9:58pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences. The United Nation must investigate this fairly.
This your disease is strong o. Only you post, only you be first to comment.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kingfragz: 9:58pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences. The United Nation must investigate this fairly.
boss thier eye don clear...but putin will not do is to bend to the USa.He will never

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by StudyBarn: 9:58pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian president is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone


The US seems to be doing quite well, invaders are still literally sitting on centuries of stolen wealth lol.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by INDUSTRIALFAN(m): 10:00pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ukraine-can-t-win-war-against-russia-hungarian-premier-says

ALJAZEERA


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war
Zelensky….. stop being a pawn to NATO…. Vladmir is doing what any leader who needs to show that his country is his and can’t be invaded by any outside force will do. Russia is not your problem Zelensky… NATO is..

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by fijiano202(m): 10:00pm On May 23, 2023
Honestly All these man said is true ...Ukraine President is the dumb person in this Case ..like I said from the Beginning Ukraine is bound to lose more and more in the War ...

As long as the War drags on there will be nothing left in Ukraine than few cities ....


Even NATO is not assisting Ukraine ...USA is top backer for them

Now Joe Biden is Facing alot and I doubt he would Win America again

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 10:00pm On May 23, 2023
lhordspy:
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ukraine-can-t-win-war-against-russia-hungarian-premier-says

ALJAZEERA


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war

Summary:
Starve Ukraine so that they can die quickly and Putin be celebrated

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Merisbankie(m): 10:01pm On May 23, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian president is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone


History will be forced to be kind these time around

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