₦airaland Forum

tuzle:
be whining urself there. Nigeria has good medical care and tinubu and buhari always go abroad for medical care. Good education pls mention the school. Even the environment u mentioned must be a joke.

Shut up and use your brain. Those leaders go abroad for treatment because of trust issues regarding their political opponents’ influence over hospital staff etc, not because they don’t think they can be treated here.

And we do have good education here with many universities ranked above some universities in the western world.

So rid yourself of your wretched inferiority complex.

savcy:
I overheard a story last week of a high ranking employee of NDPR relocating abroad to go work in elderly people's home. Kai! Una get mind no worry. Person get money to live for Gulf estate, PH, or one of theses fancy locations, and to buy better car. E abandon all only to dey work for elderly people's home for yankee... Tueh! I no fit. I go instead enroll my children for boarding school there, then dey visit periodically.

It’s not a rare case, very common.

The truth is that, Nigerians abroad don’t tell people back home the truth.

Most never know what they signing up for till they land.

hrykanu231:
Not entirely true.
What if you get kidnapped? Because I know someone who left because of this.
What if you die like that lawyer in Lagos as a result of police brutality?
What if your business collapses as a result of poor policies like boarder closure?

Most people abroad, just want to experience a functional system for themselves and their children.

What if one deranged teengager kills you inside shopping mall in the US? Gun shooting violence dey rampant there too

It is what it is! follow your heart, Japa is not for everyone. Don't go because others are going.

hrykanu231:
Not entirely true.
What if you get kidnapped? Because I know someone who left because of this.
What if you die like that lawyer in Lagos as a result of police brutality?
What if your business collapses as a result of poor policies like boarder closure?

Most people abroad, just want to experience a functional system for themselves and their children.

What if you get shot in a supermarket in the US by a mentally deranged white person?

Quintopia:
He’s telling you the truth based on experience. Right now japa seems to you to be the best thing.

But in 5 or 10 years time when you’ve been over there for some years and are reasoning your life, you could discover that you would have done much better in Nigeria. Especially if you left a promising career or business back home.

But by then it would be too late to return, as per shame from nothing to show. Happens to so many Naija folks out there.

Anybody that wants to return is free to return. This shame thing you guys always say is not true. If you save up some money abroad and wants to return you can, and nobody will shame you. You can't tell me that the returnee can't save up money to rent an apartment and even start little business. Provided you are not coming home to beg nobody will shame you. Also, Nigeria is a very big place, if prior to traveling abroad, you lived in Uyo, you can relocate to asaba on returning

Nonsense talk.who told u those running abroad sre not doing well.in Nigeria we are merely surviving,no electricity, no fuel,no good roads,no good access to medical.

U are more likely to die early in naija than abroad.

DMerciful:
You can be doing well and get killed due to insecurity. Roads are death traps, hospitals are disasters.

Doing well is not about bank account! If you live in a society where majority are not doing well, you wellbeing is at risk!

Mumu. Are you aware that 70,000 people are shot dead in America every year?

Do you know in America someone can just walk up to you and shoot you for no reason?

If they tell you the number of Nigerian cab drivers that have been shot dead in New York City just because the passenger got to his stop and didn’t want to pay, you will be shocked.

omoadeleye:
Which health problem you get self?? Wey you dey shout access to good medical care.

Is not Nigerian doctors dominating the same health sectors of the countries you want to japa to

Don't mind these ignorant people who talk as if citizens of developed countries don't also dies of medical emergencies

Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

lol...you don't understand that one can lose everything they have worked for in the blink of an eye in an unstable environment.

bdon12:
Nonsense talk.who told u those running abroad sre not doing well.in Nigeria we are merely surviving,no electricity, no fuel,no good roads,no good access to medical.

U are more likely to die early in naija than abroad.

So if you go abroad you will live forever abi?

1Sharon:
They're just greedy. People that are truly struggling are the ones that need to japa.

You labeled people who chose to do what they like with their money and life? Aunty, life matter na "live and let live".

Me I want to japa because I love adventure.
I want to taste another country.
Every country has its challenges but Nigeria carry first for challenges.

True, in the abroad, there is gun violence in America, bitterly cold weather, wild fires, etc in other places. But in Nigeria, we have:

Insecurity
Disfunctional system
High inflation
Lack of opportunities
Disfunctional educational system
Endemic corruption
Severe environmental pollution (slums gallore)
Bad roads
High level of miscreants
UGM in east, boko haram/ISWAP/bandits in the north
Cabals controlling different sectors of the economy
Terrible business environment, etc, etc, etc

I am tired! I want to try somewhere else.

Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

Please list the incentives of remaining in this country when you are financially secure.

You can jakpa and have your business in naija managed by trusted family members and employees.

But you see quality of life? It's something that when you are financially secure you start to consider. Security, good infrastructure, good schools, job prospects for your kids, sane economic environment, sane tax regime(no multiple taxation), no LASTMA, no Agberos, no fuel queues, no Power issues, SYSTEMS THAT WORK. These are things really lacking in Nigeria at the moment.

Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

In nigeria anything can kii u.i will dem.Agbero,police,reckless doctors bad roads ..d list is endless.Abroad d only thing likely to kii u is very chronic disease like cancer.in naija tyohoid n malaria dey kii us or small accidents becos of inadequate medical access.

The poster is correct to a very large extent.


If you earn a steady legitimate monthly income of 5million naira and above in Nigeria, please do not Japa to start life afresh. Instead you can combine the two if you are married by sending your wife and kids abroad while you stay back in Nigeria and visit them as often as you can while running your business in Nigeria.



It is insecurity that scare most in Nigeria, and my little advice is that if you are earning well in Nigeria, move to a very secure private estate, don't buy exotic cars, make use of clean cars that won't raise too much dust of your status, limit your night movements, don't travel a lot within Nigeria. Setup your working office within your house or a place not too far and make sure you don't move around often. Always drive or move around with a close person like a PA or relative or something

Bouncingbabyboy:
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you have been lied to!! In Nigeria with your money doctor will come to your house and treat you .... for the west nothing like that!!! No good food, LGBT propaganda in nursery schools left and right health care in Canada no get quality oo

Don't mind them...they think it is all rosy like it is seen in Hollywood movies.

That is the gospel truth.

If you are ok as per living standard no need running to obodo oyibo except for holiday abeg...

Abi1985:
Kidnapping can happen anywhere in the world.

Even to this day people are being kidnapped in USA. Kidnapping is not headline news anymore because of the mad gun violence there. Many japa cases are senseless. Someone told me that on his first trip outside Nigeria, he saw a security guard at a supermarket in London who he recognised as a former lecturer at a federal University who joined the japa train. Chai, from a decent job at home to mai-guard!

go and rest young man

Tonnierichy:
Na why dem no get sense na. Most of them are regretting it now. They are having to do ridiculous jobs they never thought they would do in their lives. My friend japa, me sef won japa! Copy copy na him dey kill people.

Japa is perfect for people that won scholarship, or people that got an all expense paid job offer abroad. High ranking bankers are now cleaning shit abroad. Rubbish

Please keep quiet already. Refrain from saying what you know little about.

Quintopia:
ILLITERATE.

Anyone listening to an ignorant dropout like you is doing himself a great disservice.

u are waiting for ordinary 200k minimum wages with all ur certificates and years u waste in school... how come me wey no go , fit employ u graduate pay u same 200k

Quintopia:
Shut up and use your brain. Those leaders go abroad for treatment because of trust issues regarding their political opponents’ influence over hospital staff etc, not because they don’t think they can be treated here.

And we do have good education here with many universities ranked above some universities in the western world.

So rid yourself of your wretched inferiority complex.

see the excuse u gave for politicians seeking medical care abroad and u said I should use my brain. Also mention the universities for me pls that can compete with universities in USA, Canada, UK. Even south Africa universities rank higher than all Nigerian uni. I don't have inferiority complex, I accept the truth and the truth is that we can't drag with any first class country in any of those things I pointed out

The main reason for me to relocate is to regain my sanity and free myself from the Nigeria corruption

Wait make you or your relatives get sick( Not my portion in Jesus name is no cure… cos you have no medical family history)
Kidney dialysis will cost like N150k/session.. so 3 session are recommended in week.. ( Go ask Ike Ekweremadu. How many people in your lineage are loaded $$ like him?? NONE
So 150k x 3 = 450k in a wk x 52 wks in a year=N23,400,000.00=N24m/yr without medications/doctors visit/nutrition and care. How many people in your village can pay N24m/yr to be alive None.
Good luck dying slowly with your small change lol

Bouncingbabyboy:
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you have been lied to!! In Nigeria with your money doctor will come to your house and treat you .... for the west nothing like that!!! No good food, LGBT propaganda in nursery schools left and right health care in Canada no get quality oo

Who be this abeg? What is life expectancy in Nigeria? Can you that to Canada?

Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc

Most of you know nothing
Good medical care you think it free? American do travel to other countries for better medical care .

Education for kids same way they have public and private schools over there same way they do in Nigeria.

Wotoporiously speaking

You have no business telling people how to go about their business, as this your assumption is baseless to me, only people without plans in life take clueless steps without acknowledging the advantages and disadvantages...

Whether you're doing well in Nigeria or not, relocating is not ruled out, whoever wants to relocate, let them and whoever wants to stay, let them, as I believe they've a concrete reason for doing so.

GboyegaD:
You labeled people who chose to do what they like with their money and life? Aunty, life matter na "live and let live".

Lol. Nigerians aren't the best people to talk about "live and let live"

ShenTeh:
People wey dey relocate, you think say na people wey dey earn #50k per month?

The op is talking about people with thriving businesses Not people that hit it once or twice a year

NaijaCowFarm:
Who be this abeg? What is life expectancy in Nigeria? Can you that to Canada?

What's this so- called life expectancy. Go to our villages and see men and women living well into grand old age. Yet, those yeye people will be disturbing us with useless figures they call life expectancy.

Kobicove:
So if you go abroad you will live forever abi?

DO YOU HAVE SENSE AT ALL

Quintopia:
He’s telling you the truth based on experience. Right now japa seems to you to be the best thing.

But in 5 or 10 years time when you’ve been over there for some years and are reasoning your life, you could discover that you would have done much better in Nigeria. Especially if you left a promising career or business back home.

But by then it would be too late to return, as per shame from nothing to show. Happens to so many Naija folks out there.

This talk about shame preventing people from returning is bogus and exist only in the head of people saying it.
In my 7 yrs abroad, I'm yet to see any naija who wants to return but shame is preventing him from doing
so.
People are actually returning, lots of them are coming back to set up business, monitor and invest in Nigeria.
The difference is very few relocates permanently. They come and go, and that's the key factor that people like u dont understand.
Nothing like shame anywhere.