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Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by Kukutenla: 6:53pm On Jun 13, 2023
budaatum:


Those bills he signed positively affect "security, economy, peace and unity".

If we have electricity we will see the thief and unknown gunmen coming. The thief and unknown gunmen might not even need to exist if they have electricity, because they'd either be in their houses watching Man U beat Anyanwu National or bbtacha's boobs or using it to do their business, and if I'm in school I will not even need to be a thief or an unknown gun person because I'd be too busy getting value for my student loan.
But the bill will not automatically become light will it? If has to be rightly implemented to do all that. That's why it's called executive.
And i don't think a thief goes to steal because of no light to watch man u. Its more about joblessness and social insecurity

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Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by mikool007(m): 7:25pm On Jun 13, 2023
Nobody use this obidients name pass these agbado dullards
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by nedu666: 7:32pm On Jun 13, 2023
helinues:
Someone said the Obidients can never repeat this lines that something terrible might happen to them, I told him that was a lie.

Here is the lines, let's see if any Obidients would proof me right.

Better Nigeria ahead with Tinubu's presidency

1, 2, 3 set go


Only u 72,000 comments. As in 72,000. A full grown adult has spent his entire adulthood on nairaland fighting ethnic wars without a single outcome. Kai wat a waste. God forbid
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by nedu666: 7:33pm On Jun 13, 2023
mikool007:
Nobody use this obidients name pass these agbado dullards


They are in competition for who opens the most stupid threads. Wat a way to waste one's life
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by Mordecai(m): 7:41pm On Jun 13, 2023
Repeat this too and see if something terrible might happen:

"With a Peter Obi Presidency, Nigeria will progress"

helinues:
Someone said the Obidients can never repeat this lines that something terrible might happen to them, I told him that was a lie.

Here is the lines, let's see if any Obidients would proof me right.

Better Nigeria ahead with Tinubu's presidency

1, 2, 3 set go
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by Mordecai(m): 7:55pm On Jun 13, 2023
It is shocking how an apostle of Awolowo is laying groundworks for a system in which government would abdicate their role in funding education, and the followers of Awolowo are rejoicing!!!

Student loans would be a great idea for postgraduate studies, please. But the government cannot afford to leave our education, the future of the country to market forces.

Please and please, if we need anything at this point in our history, it is for our government to fund education and healthcare.

If not for free education by Awo, the SW would be grappling with the same security woes the North is facing now. It was the money spent decades ago that they're benefiting from today.

And we have a responsibility to pay it forward. Education is expensive but ignorance is costlier, yes. But that's not a good reason to leave it the students to borrow and find their way...

Please, on this issue, we need to look beyond partisan politics.


budaatum:

I should not have to be paid peanuts because of rurals! I got loan to pay back for the skills I bought that they are paying me peanuts for!

It's because of this cheap NYSC labour that Nigeria wages are derisorily low. We are worth lots more than what they currently pay which is why Nigeria is rural to UK that is stealing our doctors and nurses and teachers by paying them more.

Rural schools will just have to hire skilled teachers and doctors and nurses and so forth at the appropriate rate instead of using unskilled and underpaid labour that they recycle every year! Just as you would not tell the brewer or baker or butcher to charge less in rurals, so too must you not expect me to sell my skills for less because of rurals.

I am very aware that my task of convincing you or anyone else that you are worth more and deserve a living wage is going to be an uphill struggle. This my aluta continuatas.

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Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by budaatum: 8:48am On Jun 14, 2023
Mordecai:

It is shocking how an apostle of Awolowo is....

Don't make me insult you. Who made who apostle? And you have the gall to tell me to "look beyond partisan politics" when look at partisan politics is exactly what you've done here if you ask me.

That your so called "free education" was not so free for those who paid for it. Before Jakande, an Apostle of Awolowo spent money decades ago for free education, "rats talk jo!" Then free education, and a lot of kids in my neighbourhood could go to school to learn to read instead of talking crap. But for me the cost was hugh as I got less education than I otherwise might have gotten, as I now had to share so others could have some. I lost my maths teacher who went off to head some other school, and I lost my English teacher and a few others too, as my school was split into 4 to accommodate 2 more secondary schools and a primary school, and if it were food, it was like I now had to share my full plate of food with 4 other people, but at least I now wouldn't be surrounded by idiots, so I did not mind the cost to myself, after all, groundwork had to be laid. But times are different now. The groundwork has been laid, and people now understand the value of education, so why should it continue to be free now that we have more people needing it, and need money to invest in it to improve its standard? Do you not think everyone who can afford it should not be able to buy themself a full plate of food that they do not have to share with others, as in, get a high quality education not ravaged by strikes and handouts and lecturers who are low paid and prey on their students instead of doing an excellent job teaching them?

Ignorance is costly indeed, but Government can not fund the high quality education and healthcare that we need today to make us valuable assets to ourselves and our country, and anything they provide for free or even cheap would not be the highest quality and standard that we deserve because there's far too many of us to share it amongst, and there's no way Nigerians would be willing to pay the tax that would be required to pay for it. And when we pay for it we'd have more money to invest in it and might even start selling it at higher rates to Europeans who will come to buy it from us like they used to, which would benefit us even more.

On that very unfree note, my old students association is raising money to install electronic whiteboards in all the classes because we are fully aware that government can not fund buying them for us and return our school to the highest standard it was before we had to share. So please, here's the gofundme https://gofund.me/8cdbd9d6. Even just ₦10, if anyone can. buda will even be ever so grateful if so referenced or even if you just comment, if you can, moreso if you buy the £75 ticket and attend the fundraising even in October. Thanks very much in advance.

Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by Mordecai(m): 12:27pm On Jun 14, 2023
Lol.

First of all, you're free to throw insults. It just won't get to me. Thanks for the forewarning, anyway.

Secondly, Tinubu has always claimed he is an Awoist, and he is the one I referred to as an apostle of Awolowo. Not you. Who dash you sef?

To the main issue.

You say that because the education was free, you got less than what you should, as you had to share?
That's a load of crap if there ever was one.

On the flip side, i.e. assuming but not conceding that it happens, wouldn't it be the others that got less education because they had to share with you?

And now that you know about that, instead of demanding increased funding so that the students get more, you want to shut down the flow? Apart from security, education and healthcare, what the heck does government actually owe every citizen?

You believe those with money should pay to get education and you still went ahead to set up a GoFundMe for your old school? Why not have the current students pay for the whiteboard if they want it? That need you identified is a gap you know within yourself that government should fill. However, you know they won't. Yet you do not leave it for the students. You try to get the "community" to do that. Because you know that the responsibility is not the students' nor their parents'. You know.

Private schools will always exist for those that want far above what the public system offers. So for people like you, by all means. Pay and get full value without "sharing".

Funny enough, there are some things we really should not argue. If the government goes ahead to make education a rich people's affair, fine. We'll still come round full circle. Afterall, noone needs to tell the NE governors to educate their people cheesy.

So long.

Edit: It appears you were referring to the use of NYSC members, while I thought you were writing of the student loan bill.



budaatum:


Don't make me insult you. Who made who apostle? And you have the gall to tell me to "look beyond partisan politics" when look at partisan politics is exactly what you've done here if you ask me.

That your so called "free education" was not so free for those who paid for it. Before Jakande, an Apostle of Awolowo spent money decades ago for free education, "rats talk jo!" Then free education, and a lot of kids in my neighbourhood could go to school to learn to read instead of talking crap. But for me the cost was hugh as I got less education than I otherwise might have gotten, as I now had to share so others could have some. I lost my maths teacher who went off to head some other school, and I lost my English teacher and a few others too, as my school was split into 4 to accommodate 2 more secondary schools and a primary school, and if it were food, it was like I now had to share my full plate of food with 4 other people, but at least I now wouldn't be surrounded by idiots, so I did not mind the cost to myself, after all, groundwork had to be laid. But times are different now. The groundwork has been laid, and people now understand the value of education, so why should it continue to be free now that we have more people needing it, and need money to invest in it to improve its standard? Do you not think everyone who can afford it should not be able to buy themself a full plate of food that they do not have to share with others, as in, get a high quality education not ravaged by strikes and handouts and lecturers who are low paid and prey on their students instead of doing an excellent job teaching them?

Ignorance is costly indeed, but Government can not fund the high quality education and healthcare that we need today to make us valuable assets to ourselves and our country, and anything they provide for free or even cheap would not be the highest quality and standard that we deserve because there's far too many of us to share it amongst, and there's no way Nigerians would be willing to pay the tax that would be required to pay for it. And when we pay for it we'd have more money to invest in it and might even start selling it at higher rates to Europeans who will come to buy it from us like they used to, which would benefit us even more.

On that very unfree note, my old students association is raising money to install electronic whiteboards in all the classes because we are fully aware that government can not fund buying them for us and return our school to the highest standard it was before we had to share. So please, here's the gofundme https://gofund.me/8cdbd9d6. Even just ₦10, if anyone can. buda will even be ever so grateful if so referenced or even if you just comment, if you can, moreso if you buy the £75 ticket and attend the fundraising even in October. Thanks very much in advance.
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by budaatum: 12:39pm On Jun 14, 2023
Mordecai:
Lol.
On the flip side, i.e. assuming but not conceding that it happens, wouldn't it be the others that got less education because they had to share with you?

And now that you know about that, instead of demanding increased funding so that the students get more, you want to shut down the flow?

So, if I share what I already have with you who had nothing, it is you who is sharing with me? Guess you have a point there, but the fact is that you are getting some of what you never got while I am giving away some of what I was getting so you can get some.

And do know that I don't mind. The alternative is only I get and you get none, which will result in me being surrounded by lots of ignorant people, and while a one eyed person is king in the land of the blind, I would rather everyone have eyes, especially since we are not a monarchy but a democracy where the multitude choose who rules, and uneducated people would not elect me, or would you?

Loans will result in more money to fund education, is what you miss. Or don't you think lecturers would demand more salary and investment in the infrastructure of their workplace?

Fees will double or triple in fact, so there is even more money, especially after some is corruptly diverted, so there.
Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by Greenback: 11:02am On Jun 16, 2023
God bless these two guys budaatum and modecai so richly...see how they transformed this supposedly stupid infantile foolish thread into something so educative and entertaining and enlightening!!!

The op is so ashamed of his medieval style,he's practically disappeared from his on thread grin

I know I also tend to helplessly toe the op's line sometimes but these two guys are awesome.
Budaatum and modecai may your lights always shine.. May God bless and use you to enlighten,educate and enrich others in everything you do.

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Re: Obidients, Is This Really True? by budaatum: 11:25am On Jun 16, 2023
Greenback:
God bless these two guys budaatum and modecai so richly...see how they transformed this supposedly stupid infantile foolish thread into something so educative and entertaining and enlightening!!!

The op is so ashamed of his medieval style,he's practically disappeared from his on thread grin

I know I also tend to helplessly toe the op's line sometimes but these two guys are awesome.
Budaatum and modecai may your lights always shine.. May God bless and use you to enlighten,educate and enrich others in everything you do.

Tinubu, Repeal Decree No.51 Of 16 June 1993, please!

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