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Deltamani:
I wish they would understand, Most of these Players once they shine to some extent in the Nigeria League they run to Belarus, Lithuania, Israel, Kazakhstan and some other Lower League in Europe…

Only few of them like Monday Gift, Chidinma Okeke, Blessing Demehin, Imuran and Co waited patiently for top Club In the Tougher League to sign them.

If Nigeria League was good enough in terms of financial aspect I don’t think this girls will go to those Lower Leagues in Europe, they will definitely wait patiently for Clubs from England, Spain, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, Russia, Portugal, NWSL and fast rising Mexican League etc.

💯 who no like better tin!! Football is a short term career, unfortunately many people don't have the patience to wait for Eldorado, they would rather grab whatever is available.

AndSunGorilla:
💯 who no like better tin!! Football is a short term career, unfortunately many people don't have the patience to wait for Eldorado, they would rather grab whatever is available.

Yes ooo, That’s why they run to Belarus, Israel and Co for $1000 to $1500 a month plus little little bonus cause the $200-$500 they get here at maximum sometimes hardly come regularly except the likes of Rivers, Bayelsa, Edo, Nasarawa, Confluence that pays regularly and higher a bit.

lovewins:
I am tired of comments like this. It is myopic and dishonest quite frankly. We can shift th goal post when it suits us. It's either we exalt merit as a nation or we exalt mediocrity and stick with quotas.

We shouldn't also stop at representative "home based players" (I'll come to that argument soon), we should also have quotas for tribes to reflect our diversity since we all want to be unserious.

To the argument raised, isn't it dishonest to claim that we don't have home based players represented. For God sake 4 players on the list were playing in the NWSL less than a year ago (Monday Gift, Blessing Demehin, Deborah Abiodun and Rofiat Imuran). It was sheer brilliance that distinguished them and got them contracts in better leagues they now play. Should we then say the NWSL isn't represented if folks who played in that league just a year ago (some lesser) are now world cup bound?

It's why this home based policy is stupid. We'll keep choosing players just to satisfy the policy, they move abroad and then we start looking for the next set. Suffice to say these players weren't chosen primarily because of where they play, but based on what they contribute to the team. We should always emphasise merits and not this backwards metrics for national team selection.

Mehn u are trying to change the subject. Her first point was absolutely valid, who releases a final list without 1 single training session?

Then u have Deborah Abiodun who has been balling for years and getting ignored but once she agrees to play for Waldrum at Pittsburgh she makes a world cup? This is a player that only played once or twice in the league. Make it make sense.

Deltamani:
Where as Marta has 17 World Cup goals, no African has scored more than 3 times
🇳🇬 Rita Nwadike - 3⚽ 2🅰️
🇳🇬 Nkiru Okosieme - 3⚽
🇨🇲 Gaëlle Enganamouit - 3⚽ 2🅰️
🇨🇲 Gabrielle Onguéné - 3⚽ 2🅰️
🇨🇲 Ajara Nchout - 3⚽

Who will break this record? Oshoala adding to her 2 goals or Banda reminding the world of that her 6 goal Olympics debut in 2021?

Who will be the female Ahmed Musa this time?

Echegini? Oshoala? Desire?

Why do you need a training session to release a final list? There were at least 5 or 6 countries that released their final 23 without a single traiing session. After Nigeria had played 5 matches in the past 4 months, the team was pretty much set. No need for any camp to determine who to pick. The lady's comments were completely irrelevant.

Regarding Ajibola, which once or twice did Debbie play in the league? She was with Rivers Angels during their 2021 CAF Champions League qualifications and Campaign, as well as the FIFA U20WWC. So, why is she not deserving of a spot? Your performance video of her contradicts your comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqQVRGK4iFc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZiMmi8EJM

BascoVanVeli:
Mehn u are trying to change the subject. Her first point was absolutely valid, who releases a final list without 1 single training session?

Then u have Deborah Abiodun who has been balling for years and getting ignored but once she agrees to play for Waldrum at Pittsburgh she makes a world cup? This is a player that only played once or twice in the league. Make it make sense.

BascoVanVeli:
Mehn u are trying to change the subject. Her first point was absolutely valid, who releases a final list without 1 single training session?

Then u have Deborah Abiodun who has been balling for years and getting ignored but once she agrees to play for Waldrum at Pittsburgh she makes a world cup? This is a player that only played once or twice in the league. Make it make sense.

Basco, your submission is unfair bro. You know I am one of Randy's biggest critic here but on this one he is justified.

First, many national teams didn't release a provisional list. Deltamani has updated this thread with squad list as they can out and only a few have provisional list, most just picked 23 straight up. That's because most coaches have used prior friendly games to access the depth of their squad and decided on who they'll go with. So to your first question on who does this, the answer I believe is most countries going to the world cup.

Also, I didn't change th subject, I addressed the points she raised and even put in context that 4 of the players currently in the squad literally played for the NWSL months ago and their inclusion reflects more on the NWSL than the squad they currently represent. Can you at least acknowledge that?

And to Deborah Abiodun, what you have basically suggested is that she was strong-armed into signing a deal for Randy's school and she's more or less not good enough to have earned her place in the squad. I don't even know what to say to that.

Deltamani:
Former SuperFalcons goalkeeper Judith Chime have this to say…

Imo, this is a post WWC idea to be executed. I agree that the league is hot right now. So i see about 7 home based that can join the team and compete. Doesn't mean they are less or better. If they prove themselves, all well and great for the future, as most of them are young.

Deltamani:
Yes ooo, That’s why they run to Belarus, Israel and Co for $1000 to $1500 a month plus little little bonus cause the $200-$500 they get here at maximum sometimes hardly come regularly except the likes of Rivers, Bayelsa, Edo, Nasarawa, Confluence that pays regularly and higher a bit.

Seriously they pay female footballers like N350K ($500) a month in 9ja? You sure?

AkinDS:
Why do you need a training session to release a final list? There were at least 5 or 6 countries that released their final 23 without a single traiing session. After Nigeria had played 5 matches in the past 4 months, the team was pretty much set. No need for any camp to determine who to pick. The lady's comments were completely irrelevant.

Regarding Ajibola, which once or twice did Debbie play in the league? She was with Rivers Angels during their 2021 CAF Champions League qualifications and Campaign, as well as the FIFA U20WWC. So, why is she not deserving of a spot? Your performance video of her contradicts your comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqQVRGK4iFc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZiMmi8EJM

When last have u seen Nigeria release a list direct like this? Why wouldn't an ex international speak out when u are going against the norm?

I said she played 2 matches this season in the league before she went to Pittsburgh. That is not so hard to understand. If we are going by champions league and U20 Flourish should be invited for sure cos she played in the more recent champions league.

I made those videos and I will continue to be a fan of Deborah Abiodun but this is total BS. The man used that spot to get her in his college. What is the difference between that and asking for money?

NOOOOOOO NOT SAUERBRUNN!!!!!! She's one hell of an anchor for the US Defense. So is O'Hara still in consideration or is she still dealing with injury too? The blurb is unclear to me.

USA 🇺🇸 in trouble😢

lovewins:
Basco, your submission is unfair bro. You know I am one of Randy's biggest critic here but on this one he is justified.

First, many national teams didn't release a provisional list. Deltamani has updated this thread with squad list as they can out and only a few have provisional list, most just picked 23 straight up. That's because most coaches have used prior friendly games to access the depth of their squad and decided on who they'll go with. So to your first question on who does this, the answer I believe is most countries going to the world cup.

Also, I didn't change th subject, I addressed the points she raised and even put in context that 4 of the players currently in the squad literally played for the NWSL months ago and their inclusion reflects more on the NWSL than the squad they currently represent. Can you at least acknowledge that?

And to Deborah Abiodun, what you have basically suggested is that she was strong-armed into signing a deal for Randy's school and she's more or less not good enough to have earned her place in the squad. I don't even know what to say to that.

Have we done it before? Why are u telling me about other countries.


Your comment about Deborah is ridiculous. Don't try to emotionally blackmail me. I am the one who was crying that she should be selected for the last AFCON so don't come at me like that. If Debbie stayed in the league Randy waldrum would not have selected her just like he didn't select Flourish, Onyenezide and the rest of them. That doesn't mean she isn't good enough.

Deltamani:
NOOOOOOO NOT SAUERBRUNN!!!!!! She's one hell of an anchor for the US Defense. So is O'Hara still in consideration or is she still dealing with injury too? The blurb is unclear to me.

USA 🇺🇸 in trouble😢

That kind trouble. They will replace her and still be the favourites. I also like France with Mr White Shirt

There is always a first time for everything. Doing it the 'traditional way' has never benefited Nigeria in terms of performance at the WWC, so nothing wrong it trying an alternative approach.

Flourish played more CL and NWSL games, while Debbie played only 2 NWSL games before she went to Pittsburgh. So what?
Flourish is not a critical need to the team - as a DM, Debbie is and so she made the team. Randy believed the quality of training at Pitt (and at US D1 Colleges) surpasses that in the NWSL, especially regarding the quality of players he wants on his team to prosecute the WWC.
Makes perfect sense to me!

Its funny - months ago during the qualifiers for the U20 WWC, you were adamant about Debbie being fast tracked to the National team (I recall debating you on this issue, citing she shouldn't be set up for failure). Months AFTERWARDS (U20WWC, two high profile international caps against the US and Japan, where according to you in your video, she performed brilliantly and was recruited by the University of Pittsburgh who offered a full ride scholarship), you now turn around and cry BS?

The truth of the matter is she is deserving of her WWC spot. She has EARNED it!

BascoVanVeli:
When last have u seen Nigeria release a list direct like this? Why wouldn't an ex international speak out when u are going against the norm?

I said she played 2 matches this season in the league before she went to Pittsburgh. That is not so hard to understand. If we are going by champions league and U20 Flourish should be invited for sure cos she played in the more recent champions league.

I made those videos and I will continue to be a fan of Deborah Abiodun but this is total BS. The man used that spot to get her in his college. What is the difference between that and asking for money?

AkinDS:
There is always a first time for everything. Doing it the 'traditional way' has never benefited Nigeria in terms of performance at the WWC, so nothing wrong it trying an alternative approach.

Flourish played more CL and NWSL games, while Debbie played only 2 NWSL games before she went to Pittsburgh. So what?
Flourish is not a critical need to the team - as a DM, Debbie is and so she made the team. Randy believed the quality of training at Pitt (and at US D1 Colleges) surpasses that in the NWSL, especially regarding the quality of players he wants on his team to prosecute the WWC.
Makes perfect sense to me!

Its funny - months ago during the qualifiers for the U20 WWC, you were adamant about Debbie being fast tracked to the National team (I recall debating you on this issue, citing she shouldn't be set up for failure). Months AFTERWARDS (U20WWC, two high profile international caps against the US and Japan, where according to you in your video, she performed brilliantly and was recruited by the University of Pittsburgh who offered a full ride scholarship), you now turn around and cry BS?

The truth of the matter is she is deserving of her WWC spot. She has EARNED it!

How many AWCON titles do we have? Are u OK? Never benefited Nigeria is crazy.

Which one is so what? U are the one who brought up champions league. Now u want to so wat me cos ur story isn't adding up. Outside Gift Monday, what out and out winger do we have on the team?

Deborah training Stop the CAP. Cos Pittsburgh already had their spring ball which she was not a part of and that will be it until they get ready for the season. The NCAA is not professional football, they have rules against training year round.

Deborah Abiodun already proved u wrong by getting those 2 high profile caps but i don't have a contract with her or anybody else. Right is right and wrong is wrong. U claim u didn't want to set her up for failure back then but now u agree she should make a World Cup squad after missing almost a whole season of action. Isn't that hypocritic? When she was playing in all these competitions u said she wasn't ready but now that she has gone to the US after missing basically a season of action u are all in

As always, you seem to enjoy arguing for argument sake but unfortunately for you, your arguments are typically void of facts.

Which NCAA rules are you referring to about training? Attached is the NCAA rule book - focus on 17.20.8.1.2 Out of Season. Hopefully, that would help ground you in some of the NCAA rules.

Go back and read my comments - the discussion here was not about WAFCON, but the WWC. Stop trying to conflate issues.
The two caps Debbie got were AFTER the U20WWC, just as I had previously advocated.
You really need to go back and refresh you memory on our previous discussions regarding when Debbie should be invited to the National team.

BascoVanVeli:
How many AWCON titles do we have? Are u OK? Never benefited Nigeria is crazy.

Which one is so what? U are the one who brought up champions league. Now u want to so wat me cos ur story isn't adding up. Outside Gift Monday, what out and out winger do we have on the team?

Deborah training Stop the CAP. Cos Pittsburgh already had their spring ball which she was not a part of and that will be it until they get ready for the season. The NCAA is not professional football, they have rules against training year round.

[b]Deborah Abiodun already proved u wrong by getting those 2 high profile cap[/b]s but i don't have a contract with her or anybody else. Right is right and wrong is wrong. U claim u didn't want to set her up for failure back then but now u agree she should make a World Cup squad after missing almost a whole season of action. Isn't that hypocritic? When she was playing in all these competitions u said she wasn't ready but now that she has gone to the US after missing basically a season of action u are all in

AkinDS:
As always, you seem to enjoy arguing for argument sake but unfortunately for you, your arguments are typically void of facts.

Which NCAA rules are you referring to about training? Attached is the NCAA rule book - focus on 17.20.8.1.2 Out of Season. Hopefully, that would help ground you in some of the NCAA rules.

Go back and read my comments - the discussion here was not about WAFCON, but the WWC. Stop trying to conflate issues.
The two caps Debbie got were AFTER the U20WWC, just as I had previously advocated.
You really need to go back and refresh you memory on our previous discussions regarding when Debbie should be invited to the National team.

Dude Pittsburgh are not training so stop the CAP like I said. The rules are there for all to see but u will never admit anything.

Didn't u tell me she struggled at the U20 level Now u want to change ur stance to support ur argument. But I'm the one who argues for argument sake.

Deltamani:
Former SuperFalcons goalkeeper Judith Chime have this to say…

Just One thing, this Judith had been out of the game, or should I now said its jealousy or bias,

who needs training when must of the buck, if not all of the players had played under the coach,
Not once, not twice, but more that 5 times,

pls that Lady should goan sit down

Jojodjo:
Thank God you are not Randy.
I understand your point though; disrespect is a NO.

When Ronaldo did that interview with Piers Morgan. What happened?

He too knew he wouldn't be returning to MUFC after that.

The truth is that no serious club or country will allow any player that criticisizes the coach in public to remain in the squad. Disrespect will spread like a virus in the squad. Next you know is players rejecting substitutions or positions because they "know better".

More reactions.

Which brilliant afcon ? Did okobi had a brilliant season as a Attacking midfielder or as a wing back ? Sentiment will finish nigerians

naptu2:
More reactions.

This Dropping of Okobi isn’t ending anytime soon, I just hope the Midfielder he picked do the job well if not them go too roast Randy.

Deltamani:
This Dropping of Okobi isn’t ending anytime soon, I just hope the Midfielder he picked do the job well if not them go too roast Randy.

I think people are just being sentimental and unfair. The criticisms of Randy are just bad faith. Most of the commentaries left out the fact that the list in itself is almost perfect, but rather focused on a player that they like who wasn't included.

Will the inclusion of Okobi radically change the team? How is Okobi one of the most important in the squad? She doesn't even get to play in her club for God's sake. Why crucify the man like he made a mess of the list? It's okay to have reservations about Okobi's exclusion, but don't make it seem like it's the end of that world.

Really glad that Randy won't have to deal with this in maximum two months time. I'm no fan of Randy, but people are just being unfair here.

Deltamani:
NOOOOOOO NOT SAUERBRUNN!!!!!! She's one hell of an anchor for the US Defense. So is O'Hara still in consideration or is she still dealing with injury too? The blurb is unclear to me.

USA 🇺🇸 in trouble😢

Damn! Without her, the US defense would be disorganized

Can you guys see why I have reservations about this Okobi

She'll be going on Live with David Doherty in 10 minutes, most likely to discuss her exclusion from the team. I just do not think this is professional.

She emotional right now (and rightly so) and is likely to make damning statements cause if her disposition. She's setting up herself to fail, a space could open up (God forbid through injury) and she won't be asked to take the spot cause of her unprofessionalism.

Doherty is always doing too much with blind criticism all the time

lovewins:
Can you guys see why I have reservations about this Okobi

She'll be going on Live with David Doherty in 10 minutes, most likely to discuss her exclusion from the team. I just do not think this is professional.

She emotional right now (and rightly so) and is likely to make damning statements cause if her disposition. She's setting up herself to fail, a space could open up (God forbid through injury) and she won't be asked to take the spot cause of her unprofessionalism.

lovewins:
Can you guys see why I have reservations about this Okobi

She'll be going on Live with David Doherty in 10 minutes, most likely to discuss her exclusion from the team. I just do not think this is professional.

She emotional right now (and rightly so) and is likely to make damning statements cause if her disposition. She's setting up herself to fail, a space could open up (God forbid through injury) and she won't be asked to take the spot cause of her unprofessionalism.

Let her do the interview first. People want to hear what she has to say. There is nothing unprofessional about taking an interview.

BascoVanVeli:
Let her do the interview first. People want to hear what she has to say. There is nothing unprofessional about taking an interview.

Did you watch the interview?

If you did, do you at least share my sentiments?

I watched for the most part and I believe I was justified in my submission.

She initially kept it clean, just stuck to how she felt about being left out. How that upon the conclusion of the season, she left Spain for Sweden (instead of Nigeria) to prepare for the World Cup almost convinced of her inclusion. Much of the insult to Waldrum came from viewers and not her.

Sadly the temperature of the conversation shifted after a while. Thing is, when someone is still grieving as she is, they are at thier most vulnerable state and will more often than not say things they aren't supposed to say.

She went ahead to say that though she doesn't think it's her right to be her the world cup, she "single-handedly scores the goal that qualified Nigeria to the world cup and those who didn't work or contribute to it have taken her place (I paraphrased this last part cause I can't remember verbatim). This are things that shouldn't be said of your colleagues no matter how justified you think you are. It fractures the team cause what she said in essence is she's more deserving than others (even if she didn't mean that). It's why she shouldn't have gone in that Live.

Oshoala even tried to take her off it. She accused Doherty in the comments of putting her on the spot. She even had to hop on the LIVE to share why Okobi bearing her mind isn't the best for her. Opinions changed after that and many people started clamouring for the live to end as they could see reasons (some disagreed sha).

The drama continues.

Didn't Ajibade scored the goal that seal our world cup ticket ? With an assist from onumonu

lovewins:
Did you watch the interview?

If you did, do you at least share my sentiments?

I watched for the most part and I believe I was justified in my submission.

She initially kept it clean, just stuck to how she felt about being left out. How that upon the conclusion of the season, she left Spain for Sweden (instead of Nigeria) to prepare for the World Cup almost convinced of her inclusion. Much of the insult to Waldrum came from viewers and not her.

Sadly the temperature of the conversation shifted after a while. Thing is, when someone is still grieving as she is, they are at thier most vulnerable state and will more often than not say things they aren't supposed to say.

She went ahead to say that though she doesn't think it's her right to be her the world cup, she "single-handedly scores the goal that qualified Nigeria to the world cup and those who didn't work or contribute to it have taken her place (I paraphrased this last part cause I can't remember verbatim). This are things that shouldn't be said of your colleagues no matter how justified you think you are. It fractures the team cause what she said in essence is she's more deserving than others (even if she didn't mean that). It's why she shouldn't have gone in that Live.

Oshoala even tried to take her off it. She accused Doherty in the comments of putting her on the spot. She even had to hop on the LIVE to share why Okobi bearing her mind isn't the best for her. Opinions changed after that and many people started clamouring for the live to end as they could see reasons (some disagreed sha).

lovewins:
Did you watch the interview?

If you did, do you at least share my sentiments?

I watched for the most part and I believe I was justified in my submission.

She initially kept it clean, just stuck to how she felt about being left out. How that upon the conclusion of the season, she left Spain for Sweden (instead of Nigeria) to prepare for the World Cup almost convinced of her inclusion. Much of the insult to Waldrum came from viewers and not her.

Sadly the temperature of the conversation shifted after a while. Thing is, when someone is still grieving as she is, they are at thier most vulnerable state and will more often than not say things they aren't supposed to say.

She went ahead to say that though she doesn't think it's her right to be her the world cup, she "single-handedly scores the goal that qualified Nigeria to the world cup and those who didn't work or contribute to it have taken her place (I paraphrased this last part cause I can't remember verbatim). This are things that shouldn't be said of your colleagues no matter how justified you think you are. It fractures the team cause what she said in essence is she's more deserving than others (even if she didn't mean that). It's why she shouldn't have gone in that Live.

Oshoala even tried to take her off it. She accused Doherty in the comments of putting her on the spot. She even had to hop on the LIVE to share why Okobi bearing her mind isn't the best for her. Opinions changed after that and many people started clamouring for the live to end as they could see reasons (some disagreed sha).

I get your point but these interviews are normal. If u can get interviewed after losing a game u can get interviewed any other time.

The Journos are divided over this mata.


I think the bias of making a few players not worthy of going is what's adding fuel to this. 3players. Remove those 3 and argument direction go change and pro-Ngozi no go get mouth again.


She gave hint that Randy started all of this by approaching her and saying she's not his kind of player to be in his team.


If that indeed happened, then Randy is an inglorious........😥😥


Made her a rejected stone until Japan.




As much as his selection is kinda okay to me, what is my crux is this man is not a sound game tactician or game reader. And this is the grandest of stages ever. This, to me, is the biggest deal.


If he doesn't change this fear, he's hilda-ing for thousands of Fans to exclaim "we told you so"

lovewins:
Did you watch the interview?

If you did, do you at least share my sentiments?

I watched for the most part and I believe I was justified in my submission.

She initially kept it clean, just stuck to how she felt about being left out. How that upon the conclusion of the season, she left Spain for Sweden (instead of Nigeria) to prepare for the World Cup almost convinced of her inclusion. Much of the insult to Waldrum came from viewers and not her.

Sadly the temperature of the conversation shifted after a while. Thing is, when someone is still grieving as she is, they are at thier most vulnerable state and will more often than not say things they aren't supposed to say.

She went ahead to say that though she doesn't think it's her right to be her the world cup, she "single-handedly scores the goal that qualified Nigeria to the world cup and those who didn't work or contribute to it have taken her place (I paraphrased this last part cause I can't remember verbatim). This are things that shouldn't be said of your colleagues no matter how justified you think you are. It fractures the team cause what she said in essence is she's more deserving than others (even if she didn't mean that). It's why she shouldn't have gone in that Live.

Oshoala even tried to take her off it. She accused Doherty in the comments of putting her on the spot. She even had to hop on the LIVE to share why Okobi bearing her mind isn't the best for her. Opinions changed after that and many people started clamouring for the live to end as they could see reasons (some disagreed sha).

She keeps showing us more reasons why she should not be part of the squad