Broveens42:


That's why I said it's not relatable because the concept of marriage itself is a scam... It doesn't matter what you do in it.
Follow my other submissions.

if I tell you marriage is a scam among animals or birds, you may seem confused a bit, you know why? because it's not relatable.
Going by logic of the op, I can make a case for the birds, because they were also blessed to be fruitful

So it's basically a language problem... I was trying to point out ... making THEM male and female was just for procreation and has nothing to do with the concept of marriage.

GEN 1
21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to THEIR KIND, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be FRUITFUL and MULTIPLY, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”

GEN 1
27...god created man in his image; He made 'THEM' male and female and blessed them saying "be fruitful and multiply.."

That's why I said all u said above is Offpoint. You haven't answered the question based on your claim. Below u gave the reason why marriage is a scam

Broveens42:


Going forward, further deliberate attempt to paint marriage as a union where the man is expected to foot most of the bills(a man who can't take care of his family as an infidel) shows why it's a scam.
I Know what's confusing you.
Marriage itself is a doctrine. So in doctrines you see so many elements that qualify it as a scam

Hence my question....How does a man taking care of his family make marriage a scam?

Jashub:
It doesn't go both ways. For example, a man can be working for Exxon Mobil yet choose to date a girl who's illiterate and working for Calabar kitchen but this isn't so with women. A woman is an opportunistic lover , who will only dates above her status and level.

Such a man is doing it for his selfish interest, not necessarily love. He only wants a woman's he can control.

Secondly, all men really want from women is just sex ...in fact, 90% of most relationships are based on sex , which is why women have absolutely nothing to offer other than the keys to sex

If your relationship is based on sex, your marriage will not last. The two of you will grow tired of sex over time and nothing will keep you together again.

tonytony208:


Such a man is doing it for his selfish interest, not necessarily love. He only wants a woman's he can control.



If your relationship is based on sex, your marriage will not last. The two of you will grow tired of sex over time and nothing will keep you together again.

Why do you tag it as control? Why must you shame a man for having preference...? Secondly, love for a woman is transactional ; and it is based on "give me this and I give you access to sex ".

Jashub:
Why do you tag it as control? Why must you shame a man for having preference...? Secondly, love for a woman is transactional ; and it is based on "give me this and I give you access to sex ".

Good. I like your choice of word "preference".

You applaud a man for having preference but condemn a woman for having preference.

Isn't that double standard?

tonytony208:


Good. I like your choice of word "preference".

You applaud a man for having preference but condemn a woman for having preference.

Isn't that double standard?

Women are the ones having the double standard.

Infact , women have always had preferences...which is why when you go on Tinder , you'll see profile of girls saying " I'm a woman of 29 looking for a God-fearing man to look after my 4 boys.He must also be 6 feet , making 6 figures and having 6packs ".

But men don't have such profiles because society considers such preferences as shaming to women

Jashub:
Women are the ones having the double standard.

Infact , women have always had preferences...which is why when you go on Tinder , you'll see profile of girls saying " I'm a woman of 29 looking for a God-fearing man to look after my 4 boys.He must also be 6 feet , making 6 figures and having 6packs ".

But men don't have such profiles because society considers such preferences as shaming to women

You are about in a circle.

Women have preference, Yes

But you just declared that it is right for men to have preference
In fact, a man without preference in marriage is an unserious man.

tonytony208:


You are about in a circle.

Women have preference, Yes

But you just declared that it is right for men to have preference
In fact, a man without preference in marriage is an unserious man.

So you finally agree to what I saying right ? Good

Jashub:
So you finally agree to what I saying right ? Good

You claimed that women are only after their selfish interest in marriage, but also proved by your responses that men too are after their selfish interests in marriage.

I'm not agreeing with you; you are only using your own words to counter yourself.

tonytony208:


You claimed that women are only after their selfish interest in marriage, but also proved by your responses that men too are after their selfish interests in marriage.

I'm not agreeing with you; you are only using your own words to counter yourself.

You're not making any sense even after explaning this to you in simple terms .

But for the record , all women go into marriage , just get a man for the opportunities that that man can provide in the present or the future.

A man on the other hand , only goes into marriage with the intention to love, provide , protect and care for his wife and offspring .

These are two different things reaosns , which makes your argument pointless

Jashub:
You're not making any sense even after explaning this to you in simple terms .

But for the record women only get into a marriage , just get a man just for the opportunities that man can provide in present and the future.

A man on the other hand , goes into a marriage with the intention to love, provide and care for his wife and offspring .

These are two different things about men and women and your argument is pointless

And you think the man isn't also marrying the woman for his selfish interests?
Everyone is selfish, both men and women.

tonytony208:


And you think the man isn't also marrying the woman for his selfish interests?
Everyone is selfish, both men and women.

False . Men don't marry for selfish reasons which is why you'll see a guy marrying a girl who doesn't even have a dine to her name .

Summary :

Men truly love women ...but women only love men base on what they can offer to them.

Jokanem:
What Does the Bible Say About Marriage?

After creating the first man and woman, God brought them together in marriage. He instituted marriage as a special bond between a man and a woman as a foundation for the family unit.—Genesis 1:27, 28; 2:18.

God wants married couples to be happy. (Proverbs 5:18) In the Bible, he provides standards for marriage as well as principles that can help a marriage succeed.

What are God’s standards for marriage?
From the beginning, God created marriage to be a union of one man and one woman. (Genesis 2:24) God does not approve of polygamy, homosexual acts, or couples living together without marriage. (1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:3) Jesus taught his followers to adhere to God’s original standard for marriage.—Mark 10:6-8.

In God’s eyes, marriage creates a permanent bond. When a man and a woman get married, they promise to be loyal to each other and to stay together for as long as they are both alive. God expects them to keep that promise.—Mark 10:9.

What about separation and divorce?

There may be times when a husband and wife must be apart from each other, such as when one mate needs to travel to care for a family emergency. But the Bible discourages separation resulting from marital problems. Instead, it urges couples in such a situation to work toward reconciliation.—1 Corinthians 7:10.

Adultery is the only Scriptural grounds for divorce. (Matthew 19:9) Hence, if a husband and wife decide to separate or to divorce for any reason other than adultery, neither partner is Scripturally free to date someone else or to remarry.—Matthew 5:32; 1 Corinthians 7:11.

Does a marriage need to be registered legally to be approved by God?

God expects Christians to obey secular laws regarding marriage. (Titus 3:1) When it is possible for a couple to register their marriage legally, their doing so shows respect for secular authorities and for God’s standard that marriage is a lasting commitment. a

What roles and responsibilities does the Bible assign to husbands and wives?

Shared responsibilities. Husbands and wives should treat each other with love and respect. (Ephesians 5:33) They should care for each other’s sexual needs in a loving way and avoid all forms of unfaithfulness. (1 Corinthians 7:3; Hebrews 13:4) If they have children, husbands and wives share the responsibility of raising them.—Proverbs 6:20

The Bible does not discuss in detail how married couples should share secular work and household chores. They can decide together what will work best for their family.

A husband’s role.

The Bible says that “a husband is head of his wife.” (Ephesians 5:23) He is the head in the sense that he should guide his family and make decisions that will benefit his wife and children.

He should strive to ensure that their physical, emotional, and spiritual needs are cared for. (1 Timothy 5: He shows that he values his wife’s qualities and capabilities by working closely with her and by carefully considering her opinion and feelings when making decisions. (Proverbs 31:11, 28) The Bible says that a husband ought to care for his responsibilities in a loving way.—Colossians 3:19.

A wife’s role.

The Bible says that a “wife should have deep respect for her husband.” (Ephesians 5:33) God is pleased when a wife respects the role that he assigned to her husband.

Her role is to assist her husband, helping him to make good decisions and supporting his headship. (Genesis 2:18) The Bible speaks highly of a wife who fulfills her important role in marriage.—Proverbs 31:10.

Does God require married couples today to have children?

No. In the past, God commanded some of his worshippers to have children. (Genesis 1:28; 9:1) But Christians are not bound by that instruction. Jesus never commanded his followers to have children. Neither did any of his early disciples say that married couples must have children. Couples can decide for themselves whether they will raise a family.

How can the Bible help your marriage?

The Bible contains principles that can help couples get their marriage off to a good start. Bible principles can also help couples to avoid or overcome difficulties.

Bible principles can help a married couple to . . .

show true love.—1 Corinthians 13:4-7; Colossians 3:14.

deal with differences.—1 Corinthians 10:24.

be good listeners.—James 1:19.

show respect.—Romans 12:10.

be forgiving.—1 Peter 4:8.

be loyal.—Mark 10:9.

be patient.—Ephesians 4:2, 3.

work as a team.—Ecclesiastes 4:9.

strengthen their commitment.—Song of Solomon 8:7.

Regarding the Bible’s view of customary or tribal marriages, see The Watchtower of October 15, 2006, page 21, paragraph 12.

Bible verses about marriage
Proverbs 18:22: “The one who finds a good wife has found something good.”

Meaning: The Bible speaks positively about marriage.

Malachi 2:15: “Do not deal treacherously with the wife of your youth.”

Meaning: God wants husbands and wives to be faithful to each other and to treat each other respectfully, even after many years of marriage.

Mark 10:9: “What God has yoked together, let no man put apart.”

Meaning: God intended for marriage to be a permanent bond of companionship.

Hebrews 13:4: “Let marriage be honorable among all.”

Meaning: Couples should place a high value on their marriage and work hard to protect it.

1 Corinthians 7:28: “Those who [marry] will have tribulation in their flesh.”

Meaning: No marriage is perfect; couples need to work together to overcome challenges.

Read the bible as it says it. Matt 5 32 and Matt 19 9 says that shall not put away your wife except for fornication. Adultery is sleeping with another man's wife. Fornication is the only reason for divorce. Question now is can a married woman commit fornication? Yes. If you marry a non virgin as a wife, she is commanded to be stoned to death in front of her father's house for being a harlot.

Jashub:
False . Men don't marry for selfish reasons which is why you'll see a guy marrying a girl who doesn't even have a dine to her name .

Summary :

Men truly love women ...but women only love men base on what they can offer to them.

You see things only from the perspective of money. There is more to selfishness than that.

A man may marry a jobless, penniless girl because she:

-is Beautiful
- is presentable
-has a well rounded ass and sweet looking boobs.
-is a good cook
-can take care of the home
-is good in bed.
-is educated
-doesn't demand for too much money from him.
-will not argue with him.

All these are elements of selfishness on the part of the man.

So, selfishness in marriage goes both ways.

The love of God for us


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.


When Adam sinned, he lost the direct access he initially had with God. (Genesis 3) God decided to send his only begotten son (Jesus) to pay the price for our sins on the cross of calvary because of his love for us. When Christ resurrected, he restored all privileges that we once had and brought redemption to us all. All we need is to believe that he died for our sin and has once again granted us direct access with God. No longer through an intermediary! (Mathew 27:50-53).

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

If our earthly parents care so much for us, how much more our father in heaven! (Luke 11:11-13). God’s love for us is infinite. He has promised to supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. (Philipians 4:19).


Prayer of Salvation

Lord Jesus, I accept and acknowledge you as my personal lord and savior. I sincerely ask that you forgive my sins. Come into my life and pour out your spirit on me. By faith, I receive the promise of the father, which is the holy spirit. (John 14:16) I thank you for the price that you paid for me on the cross of calvary. Thank you for my redemption. I pray that your power, grace and favor will abide with me now and forever more. Amen.

tonytony208:


You see things only from the perspective of money. There is more to selfishness than that.

A man may marry a jobless, penniless girl because she:

-is Beautiful
- is presentable
-has a well rounded ass and sweet looking boobs.
-is a good cook
-can take care of the home
-is good in bed.
-is educated
-doesn't demand for too much money from him.
-will not argue with him.

All these are elements of selfishness on the part of the man.

So, selfishness in marriage goes both ways.

So what's wrong with a man marrying for the above reason ? And why do you call it selfishness once a man has a particular standard or preference...?


Secondly, those are noble traits which any sane man with a sane mind would want ....so how are they selfish? Or you want men to accept women who are disrespectful, overweight , dressing like hoes and rebellious?

Jashub:
So what's wrong with a man marrying for the above reason ? And why do you call it selfishness once a man has a particular standard or preference...?


Secondly, those are noble traits which any sane man with a sane mind would want ....so how are they selfish? Or you want men to accept women who are disrespectful, overweight , dressing like hoes and rebellious?

According to you, a man is free to have criteria when choosing a woman, but a woman isn't free to have criteria when choosing a man.

There is nothing noble in choosing a wife based on big ass and boobs.

It is also noble for a woman to expect a man to be a provider

Broveens42:


Shows you don't even read your Bible. But rely on what you were told

god's original idea in Genesis was for man to be ALONE.....The creation of Eve was an after thought when he realized how lonely Adam was.

Paul also indirectly advocated for god's original idea when he said " it's good for man to be ALONE but for temptation every man should have his wife..."

marriage has nothing to do with the character "god" when you read contextually

Opposite sex is accurately relatable

Please don't be ignorant of the Bible.

God who knows all things from the end to the beginning created Adam and Eve together:

“Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”
— Genesis 5:2 (KJV)

God ordained marriage when He created Adam.

[quote author=Jokanem post=124020990]What Does the Bible Say About Marriage?

After creating the first man and woman, God brought them together in marriage. He instituted marriage as a special bond between a man and a woman as a foundation for the family unit.—Genesis 1:27, 28; 2:18.

God wants married couples to be happy. (Proverbs 5:18) In the Bible, he provides standards for marriage as well as principles that can help a marriage succeed.

What are God’s standards for marriage?
From the beginning, God created marriage to be a union of one man and one woman. (Genesis 2:24) God does not approve of polygamy, homosexual acts, or couples living together without marriage. (1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:3) Jesus taught his followers to adhere to God’s original standard for marriage.—Mark 10:6-8.

In God’s eyes, marriage creates a permanent bond. When a man and a woman get married, they promise to be loyal to each other and to stay together for as long as they are both alive. God expects them to keep that promise.—Mark 10:9.

What about separation and divorce?

There may be times when a husband and wife must be apart from each other, such as when one mate needs to travel to care for a family emergency. But the Bible discourages separation resulting from marital problems. Instead, it urges couples in such a situation to work toward reconciliation.—1 Corinthians 7:10.

Adultery is the only Scriptural grounds for divorce. (Matthew 19:9) Hence, if a husband and wife decide to separate or to divorce for any reason other than adultery, neither partner is Scripturally free to date someone else or to remarry.—Matthew 5:32; 1 Corinthians 7:11.

Does a marriage need to be registered legally to be approved by God?

God expects Christians to obey secular laws regarding marriage. (Titus 3:1) When it is possible for a couple to register their marriage legally, their doing so shows respect for secular authorities and for God’s standard that marriage is a lasting commitment. a

What roles and responsibilities does the Bible assign to husbands and wives?

Shared responsibilities. Husbands and wives should treat each other with love and respect. (Ephesians 5:33) They should care for each other’s sexual needs in a loving way and avoid all forms of unfaithfulness. (1 Corinthians 7:3; Hebrews 13:4) If they have children, husbands and wives share the responsibility of raising them.—Proverbs 6:20

The Bible does not discuss in detail how married couples should share secular work and household chores. They can decide together what will work best for their family.

A husband’s role.

The Bible says that “a husband is head of his wife.” (Ephesians 5:23) He is the head in the sense that he should guide his family and make decisions that will benefit his wife and children.

He should strive to ensure that their physical, emotional, and spiritual needs are cared for. (1 Timothy 5: He shows that he values his wife’s qualities and capabilities by working closely with her and by carefully considering her opinion and feelings when making decisions. (Proverbs 31:11, 28) The Bible says that a husband ought to care for his responsibilities in a loving way.—Colossians 3:19.

A wife’s role.

The Bible says that a “wife should have deep respect for her husband.” (Ephesians 5:33) God is pleased when a wife respects the role that he assigned to her husband.

Her role is to assist her husband, helping him to make good decisions and supporting his headship. (Genesis 2:18) The Bible speaks highly of a wife who fulfills her important role in marriage.—Proverbs 31:10.

Does God require married couples today to have children?

No. In the past, God commanded some of his worshippers to have children. (Genesis 1:28; 9:1) But Christians are not bound by that instruction. Jesus never commanded his followers to have children. Neither did any of his early disciples say that married couples must have children. Couples can decide for themselves whether they will raise a family.

How can the Bible help your marriage?

The Bible contains principles that can help couples get their marriage off to a good start. Bible principles can also help couples to avoid or overcome difficulties.

Bible principles can help a married couple to . . .

show true love.—1 Corinthians 13:4-7; Colossians 3:14.

deal with differences.—1 Corinthians 10:24.

be good listeners.—James 1:19.

show respect.—Romans 12:10.

be forgiving.—1 Peter 4:8.

be loyal.—Mark 10:9.

be patient.—Ephesians 4:2, 3.

work as a team.—Ecclesiastes 4:9.

strengthen their commitment.—Song of Solomon 8:7.

Regarding the Bible’s view of customary or tribal marriages, see The Watchtower of October 15, 2006, page 21, paragraph 12.

Bible verses about marriage
Proverbs 18:22: “The one who finds a good wife has found something good.”

Meaning: The Bible speaks positively about marriage.

Malachi 2:15: “Do not deal treacherously with the wife of your youth.”

Meaning: God wants husbands and wives to be faithful to each other and to treat each other respectfully, even after many years of marriage.

Mark 10:9: “What God has yoked together, let no man put apart.”

Meaning: God intended for marriage to be a permanent bond of companionship.

Hebrews 13:4: “Let marriage be honorable among all.”

Meaning: Couples should place a high value on their marriage and work hard to protect it.

1 Corinthians 7:28: “Those who [marry] will have tribulation in their flesh.”

Meaning: No marriage is perfect; couples need to work together to overcome challenges.
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Likoya:
You and your stupid God can go to hell with your stupid rules.... I didn't ask anybody to bring me to this world, I just found myself here. Yet the idiot claims to give people freedom of choice...Why didn't you give me freedom to choose if I wanted to come to this world first?

Sadly you were a sperm who struggled and overcame others to come. For all you care to know, your parent might at the time you came not had any intention of bringing you here...you were here on your own volition. But know that you are already here, the only way you can help yourself is to seek for truth and the truth you will find if you diligently seek. Rebellion can't save you.