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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by drlateef: 8:36am On Jun 26, 2023
Enemyofpeace:
I can see that some Batists and even LP supporters do not understand what just played out over the last month in court.

To break it down so it's clear.

These are PO n Atiku's prayers.

All the prayers will be DETERMINED in the FINAL JUDGMENT.

(Brief Summary of prayers pleaded in court) :

1. Eligibility

That It be determined that:

A) At the time of the Presidential Elections, 2nd & 3rd Respondents (Tinubu & Shettima) were unqualified to contest

What was tendered in court.

- BAT has multiple nationalities. Atiku's witness presented his Guinean passport - *Fact*
Derisively BATs lawyer contended it had expired. Nationality does not expire with passports.

- BAT committed perjury by submitting a Chicago University degree that was shown to be forged - *Fact*
- Tinubu Bola A. Who was admitted to CSU for a degree was shown to be a woman and American citizen - *Notarized document shows the Tinubu Bola A. Is a woman and American citizen*
Let the courts decide

Shettima was shown to have been nominated as VP, 4 days before he withdrew from the senate nomination.
- *Most people who are unaware point to the Supreme Court Judgment in May 2023. That merely threw out the case on a technicality*
The technicality was that PDP challenged it, as a pre-election matter (can only be done by a fellow APC candidate. PO n Atiku can only challenge it as a post election matter.
Let the PEPT tribunal decide this incontrovertible fact.

B) All the votes recorded to Tinubu were wasted due to qualification/disqualification of Tinubu and Shettima

- See above

C) On the basis of the remaining votes (after discountenancing Tinubu and Shettima) , Obi scored majority of the lawful votes cast in 2/3rd of the States And the FCT, therefor met the requirements to be declared winner

*This proof was submitted in the documents and evidence filed before the PEPT. That was why INEC and APC fought their own CTC documents*
LP lawyers submitted their written arguments n are not required to plead it in court. That's why you never heard much about it. They only submitted INEC CTC of the forms EC8A, EC8B, EC8C,and EC8D to the burtress their asertions.
In addition, PO challenged the results of 32 states, including Abuja, where his votes were under counted.
*Once these votes are fully allocated to him, and votes removed from BAT, it will become apparent he won the popular vote and met the spread requirements*

2) 25% in Abuja
That it be determined that Tinubu failed to score 25% in the FCT and hence ought not to have been declared winner.
- *Supreme Court in 2007 held that 25% of Abuja is a sine qua none. Thus, BAT n Atiku can not be declared as winners*

3) In Alternate, a Fresh Election

Order the cancellation of the elections and order INEC to conduct a fresh one that Tinubu & Shettima shall not participate in

- *This will only happen if BAT is disqualified and PO can not be declared absolute winner due to PO not meeting the spread (25% in 2/3 states).*
Atiku can not be declared winner since he didn't get 25% in Abuja*

4) Alternatively, they get elected by the majority of lawful votes cast

That it be determined that

A) That Tinubu was not duly elected by a majority. Therefore, his declaration as winner is unlawful, unconstitutional, and of no effect

B) Based on the valid votes cast, Obi scored the highest number of votes in 2/3rd of the States and the FCT and ought to be declared winner

C) An order directing INEC to issue Certificate of Return to Obi as duly elected President be issued

In Further Alternative to 1-4 Above:

5) Void

A) That the Presidential elections conducted on Feb 25th, 2023 is void on the grounds that it was not conducted in accordance to the Electoral Act 2022 and the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended

- *This was shown by INECs shenanigans*

B)Order the cancellation of the Presidential Elections and order INEC to conduct fresh presidential elections.

*Only comes in if PO can not be declared absolute winner. Only LP n PDP will contest this*

I've taken my time to explain all this, as I can see most people are actually ignorant of what happened at the PEPT.

Regards


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You are jumping gun without waiting for the defence of the respondents. This is not a one-sided adjudication. You must wait for the evidence the lawyers of Tinubu and Shetima and INEC will bring. Stop masturbating yourself before that.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Mordecai(m): 8:37am On Jun 26, 2023
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DMerciful:
That means you're not following the case. LP tendered evidences that the votes that INEC gave them in 21 states were not their votes but less. You expect th to make unnecessary arguments? They tendered evidences based on INEC own CTCs, its left for INEC to open defence next week and explain why they couldn't add the polling units results correctly.

You don't present witness to testify to support CTCs because they're INEC own CTCs.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by duro4chang(m): 9:19am On Jun 26, 2023
DMerciful:
What is trash here?

Even if you want Tinubu, you can't call this trash, you should actually be worried because the evidences are overwhelming.

If you think a sworn in president cannot be removed, e go shock you when the judgement will be unanimous
You posted a crap and you want people to swallow it. It's only a fool that will do such thing.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Zxcvbnmghtr: 9:23am On Jun 26, 2023
Enemyofpeace
Atiku and Peter Obi have both closed their respective cases without proving how they won the election. So, the idea of the court declaring any of them the winner of the election is out of the equation.

The second part of their plea is to get Tinubu disqualified on three grounds. Shettima’s so called double nomination that has now been thrashed by the Supreme Court. 25% of FCT that the two parties seems to have abandoned as they didn’t push this argument seriously. Even if they’ve pushed it, section 299 already made it clear FCT should be treated like a state so it won’t even matter.

The third argument is to get him disqualified by a combination of certificate forgery, dual citizenship and drug conviction.

The certificate forgery is of two nature. Chicago state university and NYSC. As regards Chicago state university, the University already issued a public statement that Bola Tinubu graduated from the University. That alone is enough to settle the matter. All the gymnastic about the color or font of certificate is nonsense.

On NYSC, I would have expected Atiku’s legal team to subpoena NYSC to prove the authenticity of the certificate submitted by Tinubu but they failed to do that. So, how did they arrive at the conclusion that the certificate was forged? NYSC is the only authority that can confirm the authenticity or otherwise of an NYSC certificate.

On the drug conviction issue, it is as empty as the lawyer PDP brought to as witness to prove the case. The witness simply helped PDP to ruin a case that was faulty right from the start. There was no criminal conviction or indictment in the forfeiture. The communication from the US government to the IGP already cleared him of all allegation.

Overall, Atiku and Peter Obi simply wasted everyone’s time. They had no case of rigging so they had to throw in a lot of allegations hoping one will stick. Sadly, they proved none. The two cases will be dismissed with heavy cost to the petitioners.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Spy360(m): 9:48am On Jun 26, 2023
Enemyofpeace:
I can see that some Batists and even LP supporters do not understand what just played out over the last month in court.

To break it down so it's clear.

These are PO n Atiku's prayers.

All the prayers will be DETERMINED in the FINAL JUDGMENT.

(Brief Summary of prayers pleaded in court) :

1. Eligibility

That It be determined that:

A) At the time of the Presidential Elections, 2nd & 3rd Respondents (Tinubu & Shettima) were unqualified to contest

What was tendered in court.

- BAT has multiple nationalities. Atiku's witness presented his Guinean passport - *Fact*
Derisively BATs lawyer contended it had expired. Nationality does not expire with passports.

- BAT committed perjury by submitting a Chicago University degree that was shown to be forged - *Fact*
- Tinubu Bola A. Who was admitted to CSU for a degree was shown to be a woman and American citizen - *Notarized document shows the Tinubu Bola A. Is a woman and American citizen*
Let the courts decide

Shettima was shown to have been nominated as VP, 4 days before he withdrew from the senate nomination.
- *Most people who are unaware point to the Supreme Court Judgment in May 2023. That merely threw out the case on a technicality*
The technicality was that PDP challenged it, as a pre-election matter (can only be done by a fellow APC candidate. PO n Atiku can only challenge it as a post election matter.
Let the PEPT tribunal decide this incontrovertible fact.

B) All the votes recorded to Tinubu were wasted due to qualification/disqualification of Tinubu and Shettima

- See above

C) On the basis of the remaining votes (after discountenancing Tinubu and Shettima) , Obi scored majority of the lawful votes cast in 2/3rd of the States And the FCT, therefor met the requirements to be declared winner

*This proof was submitted in the documents and evidence filed before the PEPT. That was why INEC and APC fought their own CTC documents*
LP lawyers submitted their written arguments n are not required to plead it in court. That's why you never heard much about it. They only submitted INEC CTC of the forms EC8A, EC8B, EC8C,and EC8D to the burtress their asertions.
In addition, PO challenged the results of 32 states, including Abuja, where his votes were under counted.
*Once these votes are fully allocated to him, and votes removed from BAT, it will become apparent he won the popular vote and met the spread requirements*

2) 25% in Abuja
That it be determined that Tinubu failed to score 25% in the FCT and hence ought not to have been declared winner.
- *Supreme Court in 2007 held that 25% of Abuja is a sine qua none. Thus, BAT n Atiku can not be declared as winners*

3) In Alternate, a Fresh Election

Order the cancellation of the elections and order INEC to conduct a fresh one that Tinubu & Shettima shall not participate in

- *This will only happen if BAT is disqualified and PO can not be declared absolute winner due to PO not meeting the spread (25% in 2/3 states).*
Atiku can not be declared winner since he didn't get 25% in Abuja*

4) Alternatively, they get elected by the majority of lawful votes cast

That it be determined that

A) That Tinubu was not duly elected by a majority. Therefore, his declaration as winner is unlawful, unconstitutional, and of no effect

B) Based on the valid votes cast, Obi scored the highest number of votes in 2/3rd of the States and the FCT and ought to be declared winner

C) An order directing INEC to issue Certificate of Return to Obi as duly elected President be issued

In Further Alternative to 1-4 Above:

5) Void

A) That the Presidential elections conducted on Feb 25th, 2023 is void on the grounds that it was not conducted in accordance to the Electoral Act 2022 and the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended

- *This was shown by INECs shenanigans*

B)Order the cancellation of the Presidential Elections and order INEC to conduct fresh presidential elections.

*Only comes in if PO can not be declared absolute winner. Only LP n PDP will contest this*

I've taken my time to explain all this, as I can see most people are actually ignorant of what happened at the PEPT.

Regards


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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by seanfer(m): 10:20am On Jun 26, 2023
Aquila99:


Calm down with all these copy and paste. The respondents will open defense today. After dat u will now come back and delete dis shit.

They will open defense next week Monday. The Tribunal adjourned to 3rd July because of sallah break.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Spy360(m): 10:29am On Jun 26, 2023
aswani:
"On the basis of the remaining votes (after discountenancing Tinubu and Shettima) , Obi scored majority of the lawful votes cast in 2/3rd of the States And the FCT, therefor met the requirements to be declared winner"

You were kind of making sense (I admit my bar is now very low considering what I read here daily) until you got to the above.

Atiku came second in the elections behind Tinubu. How exactly can he be second again when you discount Tinubu's votes?

Your summation goes against very basic principles of Mathematics.


The word discountenance has already explained it.

If you know algebra you will no that to discountenance an addition is to subtract, an vise versa. Many votes accrued to Tinubu were actually Peter Obi votes.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Spy360(m): 10:32am On Jun 26, 2023
seanfer:
It’s funny how people judge based on LP’s side. Why not wait till after the respondents Finnish their case?
Or you want the judge to give ruling based on only the witnesses and evidences of LP alone?
This is the response I expect from BATists and not insults.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by OredoPikin: 10:40am On Jun 26, 2023
aswani:
"On the basis of the remaining votes (after discountenancing Tinubu and Shettima) , Obi scored majority of the lawful votes cast in 2/3rd of the States And the FCT, therefor met the requirements to be declared winner"

You were kind of making sense (I admit my bar is now very low considering what I read here daily) until you got to the above.

Atiku came second in the elections behind Tinubu. How exactly can he be second again when you discount Tinubu's votes?

Your summation goes against very basic principles of Mathematics.


It was well explained there
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by OredoPikin: 10:44am On Jun 26, 2023
Aquila99:


Calm down with all these copy and paste. The respondents will open defense today. After dat u will now come back and delete dis shit.
July 3rd
Not today
U are not even following
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Spy360(m): 10:45am On Jun 26, 2023
Zxcvbnmghtr:
Enemyofpeace
Atiku and Peter Obi have both closed their respective cases without proving how they won the election. So, the idea of the court declaring any of them the winner of the election is out of the equation.
This is just laughable. With all the barrage of evidence and CTCs? Lol

The second part of their plea is to get Tinubu disqualified on three grounds. Shettima’s so called double nomination that has now been thrashed by the Supreme Court.
That was a pre-election hearing. This is a post election hearing. There's no way out. A video was played in court on how Tinubu told Buhari 4days before the day they claim , that he has nominated Shettima. The only response from APC lawyers was asking if Buhari was still alive. Lol
25% of FCT that the two parties seems to have abandoned as they didn’t push this argument seriously. Even if they’ve pushed it, section 299 already made it clear FCT should be treated like a state so it won’t even matter.
This argument is only meant for the court to interpret. Nothing to push. No need for argument

The third argument is to get him disqualified by a combination of certificate forgery, dual citizenship and drug conviction.
Tinubu may escape the drug conviction, but he cannot escape perjury. It's so clear

The certificate forgery is of two nature. Chicago state university and NYSC. As regards Chicago state university, the University already issued a public statement that Bola Tinubu graduated from the University. That alone is enough to settle the matter. All the gymnastic about the color or font of certificate is nonsense.
The document presented by Tinubu's lawyers was a mere letter from a secretary in HOD office. The evidence presented against him was a transcript on subpoenas. Both are incomparable in terms of weight. It's like USA Vs Sao Tome

On NYSC, I would have expected Atiku’s legal team to subpoena NYSC to prove the authenticity of the certificate submitted by Tinubu but they failed to do that. So, how did they arrive at the conclusion that the certificate was forged? NYSC is the only authority that can confirm the authenticity or otherwise of an NYSC certificate.
It's the document itself that is challenging Tinubu. Already the document he presented was not his own as it didn't beat his name. So what's the point calling NYSC? You only call NYSC if it was forged with his name on it. Just like the case in Enugu

On the drug conviction issue, it is as empty as the lawyer PDP brought to as witness to prove the case. The witness simply helped PDP to ruin a case that was faulty right from the start. There was no criminal conviction or indictment in the forfeiture. The communication from the US government to the IGP already cleared him of all allegation.
I doubt that the drug may scale judgement. But it will affect his goodwill with the judges

Overall, Atiku and Peter Obi simply wasted everyone’s time. They had no case of rigging so they had to throw in a lot of allegations hoping one will stick. Sadly, they proved none. The two cases will be dismissed with heavy cost to the petitioners.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by OredoPikin: 10:49am On Jun 26, 2023
Zxcvbnmghtr:
Enemyofpeace
Atiku and Peter Obi have both closed their respective cases without proving how they won the election. So, the idea of the court declaring any of them the winner of the election is out of the equation.

The second part of their plea is to get Tinubu disqualified on three grounds. Shettima’s so called double nomination that has now been thrashed by the Supreme Court. 25% of FCT that the two parties seems to have abandoned as they didn’t push this argument seriously. Even if they’ve pushed it, section 299 already made it clear FCT should be treated like a state so it won’t even matter.

The third argument is to get him disqualified by a combination of certificate forgery, dual citizenship and drug conviction.

The certificate forgery is of two nature. Chicago state university and NYSC. As regards Chicago state university, the University already issued a public statement that Bola Tinubu graduated from the University. That alone is enough to settle the matter. All the gymnastic about the color or font of certificate is nonsense.

On NYSC, I would have expected Atiku’s legal team to subpoena NYSC to prove the authenticity of the certificate submitted by Tinubu but they failed to do that. So, how did they arrive at the conclusion that the certificate was forged? NYSC is the only authority that can confirm the authenticity or otherwise of an NYSC certificate.

On the drug conviction issue, it is as empty as the lawyer PDP brought to as witness to prove the case. The witness simply helped PDP to ruin a case that was faulty right from the start. There was no criminal conviction or indictment in the forfeiture. The communication from the US government to the IGP already cleared him of all allegation.

Overall, Atiku and Peter Obi simply wasted everyone’s time. They had no case of rigging so they had to throw in a lot of allegations hoping one will stick. Sadly, they proved none. The two cases will be dismissed with heavy cost to the petitioners.

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Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by seanfer(m): 11:04am On Jun 26, 2023
Spy360:

This is the response I expect from BATists and not insults.

But it's just a simple logic for every Obidients to know that the court will still listen to the respondents before judgement is given... Most obidients don't even know how the court works and they are not ready to learn.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by aswani(m): 11:09am On Jun 26, 2023
Spy360:

The word discountenance has already explained it.

If you know algebra you will no that to discountenance an addition is to subtract, an vise versa. Many votes accrued to Tinubu were actually Peter Obi votes.

Duscountenance means "refuse to approve of" according to Google, usung that word alone doesn't mean Tinubu votes will be added to Obi's even in the context you did.

I guess we will find out soon enough how many votes of APC will be given to LP. It just seems if Peter Obi was so sure about your assertion, he wouldn't have wasted any time on double nomination and INEC servers (for example) but go straight to the point.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Achobaisiochu: 1:22pm On Jun 26, 2023
Zxcvbnmghtr:
Enemyofpeace
Atiku and Peter Obi have both closed their respective cases without proving how they won the election. So, the idea of the court declaring any of them the winner of the election is out of the equation.

The second part of their plea is to get Tinubu disqualified on three grounds. Shettima’s so called double nomination that has now been thrashed by the Supreme Court. 25% of FCT that the two parties seems to have abandoned as they didn’t push this argument seriously. Even if they’ve pushed it, section 299 already made it clear FCT should be treated like a state so it won’t even matter.

The third argument is to get him disqualified by a combination of certificate forgery, dual citizenship and drug conviction.

The certificate forgery is of two nature. Chicago state university and NYSC. As regards Chicago state university, the University already issued a public statement that Bola Tinubu graduated from the University. That alone is enough to settle the matter. All the gymnastic about the color or font of certificate is nonsense.

On NYSC, I would have expected Atiku’s legal team to subpoena NYSC to prove the authenticity of the certificate submitted by Tinubu but they failed to do that. So, how did they arrive at the conclusion that the certificate was forged? NYSC is the only authority that can confirm the authenticity or otherwise of an NYSC certificate.

On the drug conviction issue, it is as empty as the lawyer PDP brought to as witness to prove the case. The witness simply helped PDP to ruin a case that was faulty right from the start. There was no criminal conviction or indictment in the forfeiture. The communication from the US government to the IGP already cleared him of all allegation.

Overall, Atiku and Peter Obi simply wasted everyone’s time. They had no case of rigging so they had to throw in a lot of allegations hoping one will stick. Sadly, they proved none. The two cases will be dismissed with heavy cost to the petitioners.

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What are you insinuating? Obi tender Certified Copies from INEC and also copies from IREV portal of 21 states to the court, which him and LP claimed that if calculated well his votes will topple Tinubu's votes and that he accumulated 25% votes of 24 states. He(Obi) tendered those copies as evidences to back up their claims and witnesses also, to prove to the court ; the INEC irregularities and malpractices in their conduct of the election.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by Spy360(m): 2:20pm On Jun 26, 2023
seanfer:


But it's just a simple logic for every Obidients to know that the court will still listen to the respondents before judgement is given... Most obidients don't even know how the court works and they are not ready to learn.
Not all obedients same as not all Batist ignore the enormous evidence against BAT.
Re: A Bit Analysis Of Tribunal Outcome by osigiepurr(m): 6:00am On Jun 27, 2023
kettykin:


How in earth is this joblessness at its peak, please bring your job fullness

Oga, that long and meaningless epistles was a definition of pure joblessness at its peak.

I will advice you, to engage yourself with meaningful activities and stop vibrating up and down on nairaland like a simple pendulum.

Lazy yuut!

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