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MessiahOfAfrica:
Okay. Great.

So, are you educating me that "Allah" really lived The Surface of The Earth?

Where was that mentioned verbatim?

[quote author=MessiahOfAfrica post=124160056]You are Very Right Here, King.



These are some of The 3 Words that describes The Concept of "God" - Literarily. And Spitually.




Here is another:


G - Gathering

O - Of

D - Disciples.

Quote for THE LORD.

MessiahOfAfrica:
Please, What Case is this Exactly?

God used the Bible to present this CASE so it's only His anointed servants today that can help you to know the truth about this case.

In the Bible book of Genesis God said He made a lot of living creatures but only one out of them all have the ability to think about his future and improve his lifestyle: MAN Genesis 1:26
So this creature was made the overseer over all other creatures that's living on instinct! Genesis 1:27-28

Because this creature is highly intelligent he is free to do whatever pleases him as long as he's enjoying himself but he must not think of setting standards for his kind regarding right and wrong! Genesis 2:17

One of spirit sons of God (Satan) wanted to be the ruler over the intelligent creatures on earth and since God won't grant his ambitions he decided to lead a rebellion against God's sovereignty, the case now is can humans rule themselves independently without God's guidance? Genesis 3:4-5

The first human couple joined this spirit son of God and so God must wait for time to tell if mankind can find happiness and joy while ruling over themselves independently.

For thousands of years now mankind has tried all types of government and all has failed today the system of government mankind is propagating is "DEMOCRACY" they think if they all come up with ideas from the majority things will work out fine but instead it's getting worse by the day.

That's why God foretold that it's when people are practicing DEMOCRACY (the system of rule where the rulers are changed periodically based on the decision of the majority) and it's getting them nowhere that He (God) will step in to end all this shit! Daniel 2:44

It's our first human parents that choose to be independent of God by forming alliance with Satan that's why Satan became the ruler of this planet ever since then after all the other two rebels (Adam and Eve) are gone so Satan who is a spirit creature remains the only bonafide ruler since he is the last man standing among the three rebels! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19


So until mankind can see for themselves that human government is a total failure God can't step in justifiably!

AntiChristian:
I only mentioned the Qur'an, and it was revealed to the Prophet who was unlettered!

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Noted.

So, there is an alignment between You and I That The Christians and Muslims Are Brothers and Sisters from The Same Ancestors.



Who's The Prophet Unlettered, sorry?

Muh247:
Supreme being

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Better Put:

"Supreme Source."

MaxInDHouse:
God used the Bible to present this CASE so it's only His anointed servants today that can help you to know the truth about this case.

In the Bible book of Genesis God said He made a lot of living creatures but only one out of them all have the ability to think about his future and improve his lifestyle: MAN Genesis 1:26
So this creature was made the overseer over all other creatures that's living on instinct! Genesis 1:27-28

Because this creature is highly intelligent he is free to do whatever pleases him as long as he's enjoying himself but he must not think of setting standards for his kind regarding right and wrong! Genesis 2:17

One of spirit sons of God (Satan) wanted to be the ruler over the intelligent creatures on earth and since God won't grant his ambitions he decided to lead a rebellion against God's sovereignty, the case now is can humans rule themselves independently without God's guidance? Genesis 3:4-5

The first human couple joined this spirit son of God and so God must wait for time to tell if mankind can find happiness and joy while ruling over themselves independently.

For thousands of years now mankind has tried all types of government and all has failed today the system of government mankind is propagating is "DEMOCRACY" they think if they all come up with ideas from the majority things will work out fine but instead it's getting worse by the day.

That's why God foretold that it's when people are practicing DEMOCRACY (the system of rule where the rulers are changed periodically based on the decision of the majority) and it's getting them nowhere that He (God) will step in to end all this shit! Daniel 2:44

It's our first human parents that choose to be independent of God by forming alliance with Satan that's why Satan became the ruler of this planet ever since then after all the other two rebels (Adam and Eve) are gone so Satan who is a spirit creature remains the only bonafide ruler since he is the last man standing among the three rebels! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19


So until mankind can see for themselves that human government is a total failure God can't step in justifiably!

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Infact, if I could "Love" This Post; I Would Have Done So.





I'll have to take time to ask my questions one after the order following your paragraphs.



Give me some time to go through All of The Bible Passages Too.



I'll be back.

AntiChristian:
Where was that mentioned verbatim?

In Your Own Words;

You Wrote:


"Allah" is "God".


And


"God is Not Man".


But "He" Uses Whatever Pleases "Him" To Describe "Himself".






.........



Put Together;


These Statements Above Mean That:


Allah is God and He pleases To Regard Himself as "Him".


We All Know That It Takes Someone To PHYSICALLY LIVE The Surface of The Earth As A MAN For Such A Person To Be Regarded As "HIM".




That's Factual.







.....


I have an honest question;


Is It Wrong To Reference "Allah" as "Her" ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
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Infact, if I could "Love" This Post; I Would Have Done So. I'll have to take time to ask my questions one after the order following your paragraphs. Give me some time to go through All of The Bible Passages Too. I'll be back.

Any reasonable person will do exactly the same before destroying evildoers for good otherwise you can't justify their destruction simply because you're almighty.
God strongly believe in Himself and His works that Adam and Eve never had any defect in their making they deliberately choose to be rebels:

They are the ones who have acted corruptly. They are not his children, the defect is their own. They are a crooked and twisted generation! Deuteronomy 32:5

So time is needed to prove that God's work is perfect as some of Adam's descendants are now taking God's side even during most difficult times! Proverbs 27:11

MessiahOfAfrica:
In Your Own Words;

You Wrote:


"Allah" is "God".


And


"God is Not Man".


But "He" Uses Whatever Pleases "Him" To Describe "Himself".

.........

Yes, but you should know the description are what suits His majesty!

Put Together;


These Statements Above Mean That:


Allah is God and He pleases To Regard Himself as "Him".

Him, Us, I, etc as it befits His majesty!

We All Know That It Takes Someone To PHYSICALLY LIVE The Surface of The Earth As A MAN For Such A Person To Be Regarded As "HIM".

That's Factual.

.....

Not really! Allah doesn't exist physically on earth or any other planet but His knowledge encompasses all creations!

I have an honest question;

Is It Wrong To Reference "Allah" as "Her" ?

Yes, it is wrong!
He never referred to Himself with such pronoun!

MessiahOfAfrica:
Liked and Shared.

Noted.

So, there is an alignment between You and I That The Christians and Muslims Are Brothers and Sisters from The Same Ancestors.

Yeah some alignment and some major differences!

Who's The Prophet Unlettered, sorry?

The last prophet of Islam Muhammad!

AntiChristian:
Yeah some alignment and some major differences!

The last prophet of Islam Muhammad!

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I still have some questions.

We are getting somewhere already....

In line with our ongoing discussion i will like to share this message with you, it's the message JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES throughout the world are to read today.

Good morning!

Jehovah knows the best time to end this wicked world. His patience has allowed for the gathering of a great crowd, numbering into the millions, who worship and praise him. All of them are glad that Jehovah has endured long enough for them to be born, to learn to love him, and to dedicate themselves to him. Jehovah’s decision to endure will be fully justified when he joyfully rewards the millions of us who have endured to the end! Despite all the heartache and suffering Satan has caused, Jehovah remains “the happy God.” (1 Tim. 1:11) We can likewise remain joyful while we patiently wait for Jehovah to sanctify his name, vindicate his sovereignty, end all wickedness, and bring an end to our present problems. Let us be determined to endure and to take comfort in knowing that our heavenly Father is enduring too.

MaxInDHouse:
In line with our ongoing discussion i will like to share this message with you, it's the message JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES throughout the world are to read today.

Good morning!

Well Noted.


This is to say that The Name of "God" is "Jehovah" as The Bible Verse here puts it.


Historically,
Did Jehovah Live The Surface of The Earth ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
Well Noted.
This is to say that The Name of "God" is "Jehovah" as The Bible Verse here puts it.
Historically,
Did Jehovah Live The Surface of The Earth ?

After the rebellion in the garden of Eden He turned His attention away from Adam and Eve for them to experience what they desired from Him: ABSOLUTE FREEDOM!
To illustrate imagine a parent guiding a child so that the child will not get into trouble but this child accused them of withholding what he desires so much on hearing this they allowed him to go and have a taste of his wish only for the child to run insane yet despite the insanity and unclothedness this child still feels like solving the problem all by himself instead of returning home.

Do you think the parents will be happy seeing their child in that condition?

Well that's why JEHOVAH turned His attention away from mankind {Genesis 6:5-6} only to empower some of His angels with the ability to see everything that's happening on the surface of the earth {Ezekiel 10:12} these creatures are the ones reporting to Him on what humans are doing to themselves {Genesis 18:20-21} notice what He told Abraham "I am going to inspect what they told me to be sure that it's as bad as the report"

So most people think Jehovah is watching everything directly because He is Almighty but they're wrong He only get information from His loyal spirit sons who are reporting to Him because His eyes are too pure to look unto what is evil! Habakkuk 1:13

MaxInDHouse:
After the rebellion in the garden of Eden He turned His attention away from Adam and Eve for them to experience what they desired from Him: ABSOLUTE FREEDOM!
To illustrate imagine a parent guiding a child so that the child will not get into trouble but this child accused them of withholding what he desires so much on hearing this they allowed him to go and have a taste of his wish only for the child to run insane yet despite the insanity and unclothedness this child still feels like solving the problem all by himself instead of returning home.

Do you think the parents will be happy seeing their child in that condition?

Well that's why JEHOVAH turned His attention away from mankind {Genesis 6:5-6} only to empower some of His angels with the ability to see everything that's happening on the surface of the earth {Ezekiel 10:12} these creatures are the ones reporting to Him on what humans are doing to themselves {Genesis 18:20-21} notice what He told Abraham "I am going to inspect what they told me to be sure that it's as bad as the report"

So most people think Jehovah is watching everything directly because He is Almighty but they're wrong He only get information from His loyal spirit sons who are reporting to Him because His eyes are too pure to look unto what is evil! Habakkuk 1:13

Wow.

This beautiful insight is revealing.





To Your Question:

Do you think the parents will be happy seeing their child in that condition?




My response:

If I were The One; I wouldn't be happy. Hence, by now - I would have stopped (Satan) which is My Own Creation or Son from Continuing with The Exploitation of My Other Creations (Humans).



Is This Not Simple To Do ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
Wow.
This beautiful insight is revealing.
To Your Question:
Do you think the parents will be happy seeing their child in that condition?
My response:
If I were The One; I wouldn't be happy. Hence, by now - I would have stopped (Satan) which is My Own Creation or Son from Continuing with The Exploitation of My Other Creations (Humans).
Is This Not Simple To Do ?

NO, it's not that simple!

Remember that the rebels were three in number and two has fallen because they were created from dust and sustained by breath but billions of their descendants are still trapped in the scam that they can find a solution to their problems through politics.

So JEHOVAH must wait until the last system of government "DEMOCRACY" fail woefully and mankind start crying for help knowing fully well that politics can't solve their problems.

Meanwhile Jehovah has gathered millions throughout the earth and they're no longer hoping in man's effort to solve our problems with politics {Psalms 146:3-4} they're the ones Jehovah is presenting to the whole world as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10-12} proving that mankind can't find a lasting solution to our problems through politics! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

MaxInDHouse:
NO, it's not that simple!

Remember that the revels were three in number and two has fallen because they were created from dust and sustained by breath but billions of their descendants are still trapped in the scam that they can find a solution to their problems through politics.

So JEHOVAH must wait until the last system of government "DEMOCRACY" fail woefully and mankind start crying for help knowing fully well that politics can't solve their problems.

Meanwhile Jehovah has gathered millions throughout the earth and they're no longer hoping in man's effort to solve our problems with politics {Psalms 146:3-4} they're the ones Jehovah is presenting to the whole world as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10-12} proving that mankind can't find a lasting solution to our problems through politics! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

This Expository is Getting More Interesting and Somewhat Understood Through Your Explanations and Scriptural Backings.




So, Are You part of These Millions of People That Jehovah is Gathering ?


How does One Get Involved with This Millions of People ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
This Expository is Getting More Interesting and Somewhat Understood Through Your Explanations and Scriptural Backings. So, Are You part of These Millions of People That Jehovah is Gathering ? How does One Get Involved with This Millions of People ?

JEHOVAH is the greatest planner of all times!

He patiently waited until the earth is filled with people then allowed them to form all sorts of governments they like before sending His son Jesus Christ to commission a movement that will gather prospective subjects of His rule in all the corners of the earth.

So Jesus commanded his disciples to go from house to house and door to door preaching about God's government (Kingdom) and the benefits that will come with it. Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20; Act 1:8

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing that today so they will first come to you, introduced themselves and present their message if you welcome them the Prince of Peace (Jesus Christ) said their peace will rest upon you {Matthew 10:13} then God's angels serving as eyes to God will pen down your name as someone who is interested in God's government {Malachi 3:16} that's how your name could get into God's memory book known as the book of life! Revelations 20:15

This people has been gathered now, they're using the Bible to teach themselves about the kingdom of God, disparities peacefully they have settled among themselves, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Soon the world will declare a one world government forcing all the people to embrace it but then Jehovah's Witnesses will object by remaining neutral never supporting any human government so all of them will turn against Jehovah's Witnesses accusing them as the most evil people for not supporting human government {Revelations 16:13-16} only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES who stand firm with faith to the end will be ushered into Paradise {Matthew 24:13} when all our accusers are exterminated by the armies of heaven {Luke 19:27} they will notice that we are peaceful and causing no harm yet they will hate us with passion because Satan is breathing hatred into them {Revelations 12:17} that's when JEHOVAH will show up with great anger to destroy all evildoers for good! Psalms 37:7-11, 34

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH is the greatest planner of all times!

He patiently waited until the earth is filled with people then allowed them to form all sorts of governments they like before sending His son Jesus Christ to commission a movement that will gather prospective subjects of His rule in all the corners of the earth.

So Jesus commanded his disciples to go from house to house and door to door preaching about God's government (Kingdom) and the benefits that will come with it. Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20; Act 1:8

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing that today so they will first come to you, introduced themselves and present their message if you welcome them the Prince of Peace (Jesus Christ) said their peace will rest upon you {Matthew 10:13} then God's angels serving as eyes to God will pen down your name as someone who is interested in God's government {Malachi 3:16} that's how your name could get into God's memory book known as the book of life! Revelations 20:15

This people has been gathered now, they're using the Bible to teach themselves about the kingdom of God, disparities peacefully they have settled among themselves, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Soon the world will declare a one world government forcing all the people to embrace it but then Jehovah's Witnesses will object by remaining neutral never supporting any human government so all of them will turn against Jehovah's Witnesses accusing them as the most evil people for not supporting human government {Revelations 16:13-16} only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES who stand firm with faith to the end will be ushered into Paradise {Matthew 24:13} when all our accusers are exterminated by the armies of heaven {Luke 19:27} they will notice that we are peaceful and causing no harm yet they will hate us with passion because Satan is breathing hatred into them {Revelations 12:17} that's when JEHOVAH will show up with great anger to destroy all evildoers for good! Psalms 37:7-11, 34

I have always loved The Jehovah Witnesses - despite all the criticism I hear about them.

Once in a while, I attend any of the Kingdom's Hall Close To My Dwelling.


However, it's been over 2 years I visited any Kingdom Hall.




By God Destroying All Evil Doers;


I have some questions:


Does this mean condemning them to the lake of fire for eternity?


Or


They will never resurrect Anymore to Be in The Kingdom of God ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
I have always loved The Jehovah Witnesses - despite all the criticism I hear about them.
Once in a while, I attend any of the Kingdom's Hall Close To My Dwelling. However, it's been over 2 years I visited any Kingdom Hall.
By God Destroying All Evil Doers;
I have some questions:
Does this mean condemning them to the lake of fire for eternity?
Or
They will never resurrect Anymore to Be in The Kingdom of God?

God can't be happy seeing people suffering so there's no literal place called "LAKE of FIRE" it symbolically means total condemnation.

The FIRST DEATH affects all people whether good or evil but the SECOND DEATH affects only those who proved to be worthless that's why the illustration says DEATH and HELL (GRAVE) were cast into the lake of fire which means the second death {Revelations 20:14} because God is neither happy with death or grave of His obedient children!

MaxInDHouse:
God can't be happy seeing people suffering so there's no literal place called "LAKE of FIRE" it symbolically means total condemnation.

The FIRST DEATH affects all people whether good or evil but the SECOND DEATH affects only those who proved to be worthless that's why the illustration says DEATH and HELL (GRAVE) were cast into the lake of fire which means the second death {Revelations 20:14} because God is neither happy with death or grave of His obedient children!

Wow.


So, Finally - All of The Torments Here on Earth About Souls of Human Beings Being Tortured in HELL FIRE For Eternity is A LIE ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
Wow.
So, Finally - All of The Torments Here on Earth About Souls of Human Beings Being Tortured in HELL FIRE For Eternity is A LIE?

We are souls!
Any creature that's identified in any community with a unique name is a soul.
For instance your dog that you named differently from other dogs is a soul that's why nobody can kill it and tell you he will replace it with another just like killing someone and telling the family you can give them another child. So each creature with an identity is a soul. Jesus said "do not fear those who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul" {Matthew 10:28} that simply means God has that person in mind so if his or her body is destroyed beyond recognition God has the power to bring back that person with a perfect body no matter what happens but when God destroys anything nothing can bring them back!

MessiahOfAfrica:
Wow.


So, Finally - All of The Torments Here on Earth About Souls of Human Beings Being Tortured in HELL FIRE For Eternity is A LIE ?

The answer is YES
Jeremiah 7:31. There Jehovah condemned the Israelites because they adopted the pagan practice of burning their own sons alive in fire and he said the idea never came into his mind.


Roman 6:23 says that the wages (ultimate penalty) of sin is death but the gift of God is everlasting life through Jesus Christ. If everlasting life is a gift, would God use that 'gift' to punish people for all eternity cos of some evils they committed for 70 or 80 years? That is cruel and unjust... But Jehovah is love and just... Hellfire is a blasphemous teaching... Remember John 3:16 that says in part... Whosoever does believe in him (Jesus Christ) should not perish (eternal destruction) but have everlasting life...

TO illustrate
Imagine a criminal who commits crimes and for his actions, he is sentenced to death by hanging. But on the day he is to be hanged, he was found dead in his cell. If you were the one to carry out the sentence, will you go ahead and still hang his dead body? Will you try to resuscitate him to life so you can make him feel the pain of his actions? No... Romans 6:7 says that the one that has died has been acquitted (released or paid} from his sins
Hellfire is a pagan philosophy that crept into the Church. Do your research sir...

Ask yourself, Adam and Eve that brought sin into the world were sentenced with death and are now dust. Even those that preach hellfire won't tell you Adam and Eve are there. How much more us that were born sinners to spend not 1 billion years but all eternity in hellfire?

MessiahOfAfrica:
I have always loved The Jehovah Witnesses - despite all the criticism I hear about them.

Once in a while, I attend any of the Kingdom's Hall Close To My Dwelling.


However, it's been over 2 years I visited any Kingdom Hall.




By God Destroying All Evil Doers;


I have some questions:


Does this mean condemning them to the lake of fire for eternity?


Or


They will never resurrect Anymore to Be in The Kingdom of God ?

Good question
Who are the evildoers?
In a simple word, they are those that delight in evil. They know their action hurt but they enjoy the benefits from their greed, oppression, violence. So, which judgment is proper for them? If they are resurrected, will they do good or evil? There are three categories of people in Jehovah eyes. The righteous, the unrighteous and the evil ones (out rightly wicked). The unrighteous ones have the chance of resurrection as many of them acted based on ignorance or did not have enough time to express sincere repentance before they died. When they are resurrected, they will have a second chance and learn God's ways properly. If they yield, they will attain to perfection and everlasting life but if they rebel, na their own problem, death.

Before you answer that question
How did God deal with evildoers in time past?
How did he do for Pharoah and his men at the Red sea? Are they still drowning?
How did he do for Sodom and Gomorrah? Are they still burning?

Mention them

God's judgement is once for all time

So my dear, you've been misled by erroneous teaching that is blasphemous

Aemmyjah:
Good question
Who are the evildoers?
In a simple word, they are those that delight in evil. They know their action hurt but they enjoy the benefits from their greed, oppression, violence. So, which judgment is proper for them? If they are resurrected, will they do good or evil? There are three categories of people in Jehovah eyes. The righteous, the unrighteous and the evil ones (out rightly wicked). The unrighteous ones have the chance of resurrection as many of them acted based on ignorance or did not have enough time to express sincere repentance before they died. When they are resurrected, they will have a second chance and learn God's ways properly. If they yield, they will attain to perfection and everlasting life but if they rebel, na their own problem, death.

Before you answer that question
How did God deal with evildoers in time past?
How did he do for Pharoah and his men at the Red sea? Are they still drowning?
How did he do for Sodom and Gomorrah? Are they still burning?

Mention them

God's judgement is once for all time

So my dear, you've been misled by erroneous teaching that is blasphemous

This Explanation seems fairer.



Such Judgement would make a lot more sense than The Eternal Burning of All Souls that Commit Any Form of Sin.





Which Church do you attend?


Or


How Did You Come About This Philosophy ?

LegitWebsites:
This Explanation seems fairer.



Such Judgement would make a lot more sense than The Eternal Burning of All Souls that Commit Any Form of Sin.





Which Church do you attend?


Or


How Did You Come About This Philosophy ?

It's not a philosophy

Aemmyjah:
It's not a philosophy

What is it Then ?

MessiahOfAfrica:
What is it Then ?

Meanwhile;

This Time, Last Week;


We Were Very Busy Producing COOKING GAS from The Convertsion of CASSAVA Wastewater into Biogas.







Everything That You Need is Already Being Taught on The Agricultural Sensitization Thread Which You Can Access Through The Link Below:

https://www.nairaland.com/7798564/join-us-saturday-convert-cassava


So, Follow Up.


Today is DAY 7.

We Have Already Completed The Setup And Counting The Days of Decomposition of The Cassava Biomass.



43 Days is Our TARGET.


You Can See Image of The Setup Below.