Novarisammy2:


you cannot just defend the indefensible

GeneralDae:

In 1993 guidelines against drug cases were even stricter.
You are just bringing guesswork into court processes.
Court only deals with facts on ground. The facts available, not what we think could have happened.

chidiokay:




If you had your sanity On you will realize, the appropriate institutions, i.e chicago state university and FBI at different times have come out to exenorate Tinubu.

In mmiesoma case the appropriate institution is the one disparaging her as forged/forged. if jamb say her result is fake and they backup it up with evidences of her real result .. so who on social media is more qualified to authenticate jamb result if not jamb

You all have teenagers that wrote jamb why not make enquiries and see who is telling lies.

who is in best position if not FRSC to tell you if your driver license is fake or not, even if you go to court who will the judges listen to. common sense is going extinct

1stGenAmerican:


In the majority of drug cases, when there’s a judicial forfeiture, the defendant is prosecuted and sentenced—this case included. The forfeiture can mean a lighter jail sentence but that’s not guaranteed. There’s no proof that he wasn’t convicted or that he didn’t serve time because a successful expungement seals the records from a criminal case, including sentencing and time served.
The question people should be asking is why someone who wasn’t convicted of a crime file for an expungement of his records. 😏

Badgers14:


Even during Ronald Reagans tenure with his war on drugs approach..

There were plea deals in drug cases..

Again, everything depends on the circumstances and facts surrounding a case.. what prosecutors have to work with....

M4A1carbine:
All these useless Olanikpekun (SAN) wannabes.

A straight case of forfeiture of drug proceeds has just been proven by Bamidele. He was an APC witness who was brought in as an American trained lawyer to come and save a drowning Tinubu.

He instead, Nailed the Agbado Lord totally by admittance of the fact truly the forfeiture was DRUG related. As long as the case is drug related, Ogbeni Tinubu has just indicted himself.


So all these lowlife Olanikpekun (SANs) on Nairaland should just rest. Tinubu will be booted out. Keep playing with your kindergarten Propaganda...mtcheeew!

GeneralDae:

But he wasn't sentenced at all. He worked in mobil at that time and wasn't sacked. He travelled to the U.S frequently after that like he did previously and was even invited to Obama's coronation in 2012 by the Democrats.

As to why he agreed to forfeit, his lawyer at the time (who was also his nephew) said he advised him to forfeit and not to drag the case for too long because this was a fight against the U.S with all the resources they had, it could eventually dent his career.

GeneralDae:

Give me examples of these plea deals similar to Tinubu's case.
Again you are the one bringing plea deal into this.

GeneralDae:

Then why doesn't he have a criminal record with the FBI, if the forfeiture was penalty for crime?

GeneralPula:

Mtchew..

Asking same question everyday..

Tinubu had a civil forfeiture and not a criminal forfeiture. This was why he wasn't charged nor indicted for any crime or drug related crime!

The forfeited money doesn't belong to him in anyway! Like the witness stated, tinubu was never indicted nor charged cuz his forfeiture was a civil one

chidiokay:




If you had your sanity On you will realize, the appropriate institutions, i.e chicago state university and FBI at different times have come out to exenorate Tinubu.

In mmiesoma case the appropriate institution is the one disparaging her as forged/forged. if jamb say her result is fake and they backup it up with evidences of her real result .. so who on social media is more qualified to authenticate jamb result if not jamb

You all have teenagers that wrote jamb why not make enquiries and see who is telling lies.

who is in best position if not FRSC to tell you if your driver license is fake or not, even if you go to court who will the judges listen to. common sense is going extinct

1stGenAmerican:


Just because he entered the US doesn’t mean that he wasn’t convicted or sentenced. Expungement removes visa roadblocks stemming from criminal records. The records are now sealed, only the forfeiture remains.
Why was there a case and how could it have dented his career unless it was criminal? A case has to have origins and this didn’t start as a civil matter. The forfeiture was a judicial forfeiture stemming from a criminal case.

GeneralDae:

Then why doesn't he have a criminal record with the FBI, if the forfeiture was penalty for crime?

Lotanna2:


But no conviction

Nannyservices:

Money was seized from him as proceeds from Narcotics trafficking.

pafra:


Where and when did he admit it? Tinubu have never spoken about it,(give me link) festus kayamo have been denying that it was tax issue

He can't reply to you na..

ragna1991:




Ait,, I agree with you, it was civil forfeiture, but what lead to that and where is the proceed from.
I want to know, explain civil forfeiture for me,,.
However, because he was not charged nor convicted does proved him to be innocent of the accusation.

Explaintomeplease.

M4A1carbine:
The primary agency for drug related offences in the USA at federal level is the DEA. Stop disgracing ya sef here.

The confession of Bamidele has further smashed Tinubu. Stop narrative twisting. It won't work.

001Lagos:

So the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu is for what if not drug?

001Lagos:
It is only in Nigeria that a criminal drug pusher is made president by demented people

M4A1carbine:
[b]The primary agency for drug related offences in the USA at federal level is the DEA. Stop disgracing ya sef here.

Lotanna2:


It is not a ground for removal,he remains your president

GeneralDae:

Okay so are you saying a drug criminal would not have his file with the FBI? So why couldn't Obi get a report from the DEA to counter the report from the FBI that came in.2007 during the investigation of the case by Obasanjo?

lapintoz:
INEC opened their defense, presented one witness and closed their case yesterday.
APC only opened their case today, presented just one witness and closed same today.

The reason is simple, there's NO CASE to waste time upon🤣🤣🤣

Even me wey no enter Court sabi say na this Peter Obi and Atiku case be the easiest and shortest PEPT case wey Court go dismiss....

The reason is simple:
1. The election was conducted and collated MANNAULY.
2. The collation and announcement of results were done MANUALLY.
3. What was used to announced those results NATIONWIDE were PHYSICAL RECORDS MANUUALY handed over to each party agents across PUs.
4. If you have problem with blurred result on iREV, that's your wahala, take the physical one from which anything or EVERYTHING on iREV was scanned & posted, that's the PRIMARY SOURCE, not iREV.

5. If you tell me you have blurred result online, sebi I will ask you to show me the original one given to your Party physically from which the collation and announcements were made, did anyone announce result waiting for iREV when the PRIMARY SOURCE was physically used?

Don't insult me o, it's just common sense but we love the entertainment so far🤣🤣

1stGenAmerican:


Expungement seals/deletes records, making them inaccessible. People file expungements so that that criminal records can’t be produced.

GeneralDae:

Again you are going in circles. He was in Lagos working in Mobil Nigeria when the drug criminals were arrested and until the case was closed. He was never extradited or sacked by Mobil. Mobil was also questioned during the investigation.

Obi just smashed your witness, who is a certified American Attorney abi? The guy indicted Tinubu with his own statement. Are you now a SAN after Court proceedings?

A crime is a Crime...and various degrees of punishment exist, depending on the end game of the prosecuting organization. You should know that in criminal investigations prosecution organisations look at the Long-term solution. Whereby cases are airtight and the suspects won't escape justice.

As regards Tinubu, his forfeiture of illicit funds is an indictment, because it shows he knew the funds were drug related.

Just know this also...during campaigns the Agbadorian couldn't travel to the USA, because he would have been jailed. So stop trying to decieve ya sef and your teeming cartel of APC Propagandist.

Tinubu will be booted out... Facts

GeneralDae:

Okay so are you saying a drug criminal would not have his file with the FBI? So why couldn't Obi get a report from the DEA to counter the report from the FBI that came in.2007 during the investigation of the case by Obasanjo?

1stGenAmerican:


I’m not going in circles at all. Extradition wasn’t necessary because he was already here in the US.