Leyqute:


The previous season when Man City had yet to buy Haaland and had no striker, Grealish scored just 3 premier league goals. Throughout the season.

If not for oil money, City would be demanding a 100m refund from Villa.

He flopped in his first season but not last season. Football more much more than goals and assist.

Leyqute:


If you think this is about me trying to big up Sancho, you'd be very wrong.

I don't think Sancho has measured up to what he's expected to do and I think we should find a way to ship him off.

It doesn't mean that Grealish was the polar opposite either. He was quite average for City, considering his price tag.

If you buy a player for 100m, he should at least be gettinh you double digits in goals or assists in the league.

Grealish didn't do that.

In fact, he he hadthe least goal contribution of all city attackers. If you want to dribble, go to laliga. If you wants to be a midfield controller, change positions with Rodri

The only place he'll get a pass for the kind of season he has is City- because they won.

Throw his contributions into any team apart from City, for 100m, he'd be getting some pretty heavy stick.

Grealish has spent two seasons at City, Terrible in one and very good in another. Poor in his first which is not unexpected because most of Pep signings at City has taken a season to adapt to his demands and style of play. His 2nd season performance shows he has fully adapted to Pep and should continue to improve. Let's hope Sancho will show the same adaption in his 2nd season under Ten hag. This is Sancho make or break season.

Bombblacks:

Grealish has spent two seasons at City, Terrible in one and very good in another. Poor in his first which is not unexpected because most of Pep signings at City has taken a season to adapt to his demands and style of play. His 2nd season performance shows he has fully adapted to Pep and should continue to improve. Let's hope Sancho will show the same adaption in his 2nd season under Ten hag. This is Sancho make or break season.

Agree with everything youve said but I take exception to your rating of Grealish last season and the excuses you created for him.

patrickmuf:
He flopped in his first season but not last season. Football more much more than goals and assist.

He flopped in his first season, yes. Last season wasn't really a flop but it wasn't exceptional either. He was just...average, which is quite disappointing given his price tag and performances at Villa.

Second bid for Onana goes in.

I'm surprised this club can be this swift.

And they've already agreed personal terms with Onana.

raumdeuter:


Leave resale for small clubs. Big clubs dont think about resale. They make themselves a destination club. Even in your example Liverpool is not selling Sallah because they realize that is 2 steps forward 4 steps backward

City sells players they dont need or players who want out. The ones they want like Aguero Silva, they squeeze every juice out of them

The sale value of KdB will be 150M but City is not even interested until he decides he is no longer interested

Salah has done more than enough. KDB has delivered for City since his arrival so, the question of resale value is not a thing. My only issue is that Kane at his age does not come with a guarantee of long term performance.

patrickmuf:
Salah has done more than enough. KDB has delivered for City since his arrival so, the question of resale value is not a thing. My only issue is that Kane at his age does not come with a guarantee of long term performance.

Every transfer is a gamble but Kane is a lesser gamble than other strikers available. Kane is 30yrs players like Lewandowski Benzema are playing into their mid 30s. Even if Kane gives 3yrs of performance which makes you competitive I will take it

Who are the other strikers in the market? Hojlund which is huge gamble as he has not produced at this level before, Kolo Muani same thing. Osimehn are you sure he is not as old as Kane? Plus issue with acclimatizing to a new country

raumdeuter:


Every transfer is a gamble but Kane is a lesser gamble than other strikers available. Kane is 30yrs players like Lewandowski Benzema are playing into their mid 30s. Even if Kane gives 3yrs of performance which makes you competitive I will take it

Who are the other strikers in the market? Hojlund which is huge gamble as he has not produced at this level before, Kolo Muani same thing. Osimehn are you sure he is not as old as Kane? Plus issue with acclimatizing to a new country

I will sign Hojlund and Muani for 120m or thereabout rather than sign 30 years old Kane. One of Muani or Hojlund or even both will likely make it which to me is a better long term investment.

raumdeuter:


Every transfer is a gamble but Kane is a lesser gamble than other strikers available. Kane is 30yrs players like Lewandowski Benzema are playing into their mid 30s. Even if Kane gives 3yrs of performance which makes you competitive I will take it

Who are the other strikers in the market? Hojlund which is huge gamble as he has not produced at this level before, Kolo Muani same thing. Osimehn are you sure he is not as old as Kane? Plus issue with acclimatizing to a new country

Depends on the kind of gambler/trader/investor you are.
Most high performers would always bet on anything with asymmetric return.

Kane is a short-term fix, asymmetric return off the table.
It is also possible Kane comes and for whatsoever reason, he doesn't perform as expected,. Add that to the short term reward.

Any younger player that pays off, has an asymmetric return.

Each kind of gambling has merits and demerits. To each his own. 😁😁 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

patrickmuf:
I will sign Hojlund and Muani for 120m or thereabout rather than sign 30 years old Kane. One of Muani or Hojlund or even both will likely make it which to me is a better long term investment.

Muani is quoted for between 80 to 100M. I dunno about Hojlund and none of them is guaranteed Unlike Kane

raumdeuter:


Muani is quoted for between 80 to 100M. I dunno about Hojlund and none of them is guaranteed Unlike Kane

Ramuzaki , the truth is that you want him to remain in the Bayernliga to develop fully, then "chance" him from his club to yours in typical fashion.

Smh

AdisaOwala:


Ramuzaki , the truth is that you want him to remain in the Bayernliga to develop fully, then "chance" him from his club to yours in typical fashion.

Smh

Who cares about Kolo Muani? What is exciting about a striker who scored 15 league goals

raumdeuter:


Muani is quoted for between 80 to 100M. I dunno about Hojlund and none of them is guaranteed Unlike Kane

Muani at 70m and Hojlund at 50m. A good negotiator will pull off the deal.

patrickmuf:
Muani at 70m and Hojlund at 50m. A good negotiator will pull off the deal.

Both coming to a new league are not sure like Kane

Leyqute:


If you think this is about me trying to big up Sancho, you'd be very wrong.

I don't think Sancho has measured up to what he's expected to do and I think we should find a way to ship him off.

It doesn't mean that Grealish was the polar opposite either. He was quite average for City, considering his price tag.

If you buy a player for 100m, he should at least be gettinh you double digits in goals or assists in the league.

Grealish didn't do that.

In fact, he he hadthe least goal contribution of all city attackers. If you want to dribble, go to laliga. If you wants to be a midfield controller, change positions with Rodri

The only place he'll get a pass for the kind of season he has is City- because they won.

Throw his contributions into any team apart from City, for 100m, he'd be getting some pretty heavy stick.

His role and expectations will be different in other teams, that's the point. Was this the way Grealish played while at Aston villa?

He went to City, took a while to adapt but he's finally accepted he's got a role to play for the team that's so different from the individualistic way he's been playing before.

afrodoc:


Grealish was okay last season mainly after the World Cup but he was not 100m pound okay. The season before that he was poor.

In a struggling team all those Grealish performances that you spoke of that were not accompanied with goals and assists would have fallen under serious scrutiny. There is a fine line between such performances and shaku shaku.

Mind you, I wasn’t the one who raised the issue and I am not even using it to defend Sancho who has been a huge disappointment. The fact remains though that Grealish performances over the past 2 seasons taken in totality are barely worth a 50m pound player not to talk of a 100m pound one.

He should thank his ori that his team has players like KDB, Haaland, Bernardo Silva etc

How many players consistently drop stinkers for Pep sef? Ake that was shaky at Bournemouth don dey form chairman there.

Doc almost everyone that watched enough of City last season rates him as a top 3 player for City last season. Top 3 player for a Treble winning side. 😂😂And y'all want to criticize and say he was 'okay'.

Leyqute:


The previous season when Man City had yet to buy Haaland and had no striker, Grealish scored just 3 premier league goals. Throughout the season.

If not for oil money, City would be demanding a 100m refund from Villa.

Agenda with no context. Wasn't that his first season at City? So many players will struggle to adapt to Pep's style of play initially. Especially flair players like Grealish. Leave agenda and face facts.

patrickmuf:
Muani at 70m and Hojlund at 50m. A good negotiator will pull off the deal.

Muani will be wildly overpriced. I won't even enter a negotiation for him if his club quotes a £70m fee.

Leyqute:


He flopped in his first season, yes. Last season wasn't really a flop but it wasn't exceptional either. He was just...average, which is quite disappointing given his price tag and performances at Villa.

You didn't watch a lot of Grealish last season. So stop arguing.

ChristoBam:

You didn't watch a lot of Grealish last season. So stop arguing.

Lol. I actually did.

If you did, you won’t be saying what you’re saying. Or maybe your expectations are quite low.

Why would you be satisfied with a 100m signing dropping poor numbers like that? I don’t get it.

Haaland, KdB, Gundogan and Rodri performed better.

ChristoBam:

Doc almost everyone that watched enough of City last season rates him as a top 3 player for City last season. Top 3 player for a Treble winning side. 😂😂And y'all want to criticize and say he was 'okay'.

He was not better than KDB, Rodri, or Haaland. He was not better than Bernardo Silva or Gundogan. Man City itself shortlisted Haaland, KDB, and Ake for their player of the season award. I don't know where you got your Top 3 news from.

He has not given 100m pound player output in his 2 seasons so far. That is not debatable.


This argument actually bores me. I am interested in debates about our players and transfer targets.

ChristineC:
Muani will be wildly overpriced. I won't even enter a negotiation for him if his club quotes a £70m fee.

The way teams now quote 80m and 100m for strikers with 10-15 league goals these days actually amazes me.

...

afrodoc:


He was not better than KDB, Rodri, or Haaland. He was not better than Bernardo Silva or Gundogan. Man City itself shortlisted Haaland, KDB, and Ake for their player of the season award. I don't know where you got your Top 3 news from.

He has not given 100m pound player output in his 2 seasons so far. That is not debatable.


This argument actually bores me. I am interested in debates about our players and transfer targets.

Top 3 players!!! .
Halland
Debruyne
Gudogan
Rodri
Benardo silva

U better stop the argument for your own sanity!! You will need patient to cope with some takes here. . I will even choose Alvarez over grealish

Leyqute:


Lol. I actually did.

If you did, you won’t be saying what you’re saying. Or maybe your expectations are quite low.

Why would you be satisfied with a 100m signing dropping poor numbers like that? I don’t get it.

Haaland, KdB, Gundogan and Rodri performed better.

You didn't bro. If you did, you'd realize why he was highly rated last season even with those stats.
I can bet anything you didn't 😂. I'm not even kidding.

Not again!!!
Top 3 players in man city last season by some nairaland analyst

1. Halland
2. Debruyne
3. Grealish...

Englishisamust:


Top 3 players!!! .
Halland
Debruyne
Gudogan
Rodri
Benardo silva

U better stop the argument for your own sanity!! You will need patient to cope with some takes here. . I will even choose Alvarez over grealish

I'm not able to post pictures from sites. But Goal has Grealish rated as number 2. Onevone has him rated as number 3. Those are the 2 I even checked.

You can try to shame the sources(I don't rate goal.com either). Doesn't change the fact that he was in the conversation for so many people, me included.

So many like Bernado entered the conversation because of the last 3 games of the UCL. I actually based my ratings from what I watched all season.

Maybe it's because we once almost signed Grealish. Maybe it's because we got our own flop around the same time. Maybe because it's a form of coping mechanism for the flop we're stuck with.

But for whatever reason so many United fans are so excited with the idea that Grealish's been a flop and will hold on to that thought till death.

And it should be pretty easy. Just like it was with Hazard then before he had the season he had crazy stats(not comparing them). It's easy to downplay the achievements of the ones not dropping crazy stats.

raumdeuter:


Both coming to a new league are not sure like Kane

Kane can come in and score 25-30 goals and it wouldn't make any difference because the squad is a long way off a title winning squad however, with Muani and Hojlund we are sorted in attack for a good number of years enough time for our slow-paced board to fix all the gaping holes in our team.

patrickmuf:
Kane can come in and score 25-30 goals and it wouldn't make any difference because the squad is a long way off a title winning squad however, with Muani and Hojlund we are sorted in attack for a good number of years enough time for our slow-paced board to fix all the gaping holes in our team.

What makes you believe we are a long way from a title winning squad? A good transfer window and we should be aiming for top 2 this season and deep runs in the Cups.

ChristineC:
Muani will be wildly overpriced. I won't even enter a negotiation for him if his club quotes a £70m fee.

I reckon even for 60m they'll sell...No club has gone in with a serious bid yet.