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Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Masterviolence(m): 9:23pm On Jul 09, 2023
Padipadi:
Keep hyping. Llordspy and WritersNG. No worry. God is still on the throne to defeat Putin and jihadists.
So you've moved from the u.s will kill Putin to God will kill Putin?

Don't compare God to mere men, but keep in mind God does not support evil.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jul 09, 2023
Masterviolence:
Read up what you wrote again.

Don't be deceived by folly narratives.
If we go by that narrative, then we all will foolishly say the Soviet union and it allies did not win in WW2 because they suffered the most losses.


Be honorable my friend.
There are no winners in war. My opinion
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Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Solitechworld(m): 9:35pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
Lol. did I say God isn't real

As for Ukraine not joining NATO, it will surely happen, they've been pushed to the wall
Na too much of CNN and BBC dey affect you... if you were the Russia president, what would you do? You will allow Ukraine to join NATO, and allow a bully and warmonger to place weapons of mass destruction at your backyard?

US can never take half of what they are doing to other countries presently....
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by LONEWOLFJOHN: 9:46pm On Jul 09, 2023
Masterviolence:
grin
Premature

All this noise will not be heard after that summit in Lithuania.

Ukraine joining NATO is all but a dream, there's a reason over 30 countries don't want to go to war with Russia.

Alone, no country can win a war against Russia conventionally, yet Ukraine decide to fight against them for an outsider.

The pace of this war was decided in the beginning by Putin and Russia, because taking over Ukraine in the beginning would've been a grave mistake for the Russians, a borden too heavy to carry.
Also killing while fighting against your own people is easier said than done.

The phase of this war now is for Ukrainians to go to the Frontlines and die.
how did Ukraine fight against Russia? You have poor brain, when you hear that Russia invaded Ukraine, so they should fold hands and not defend Thier county right? Now when it's not going as planned, you results to blaming Ukraine, typical example of stupid Nigerian mentality
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Chucks13: 9:47pm On Jul 09, 2023
Masterviolence:
Which wall?
When Russia, their elder brother was telling them that what they were doing is wrong and there are repercussions they didn't listen, they believed in the reassurance from the west in armaments and Intel.

The reason Ukraine still have a voice to speak is because there is no Stalin-like president in Russia.

Putin is just so lenient, they should thank God for that because they would've been bombarded from the surface of the earth if Stalin is the current president of Russia.
Look at how you mentioned Stallin as if you even know where Russia is located in World map.

Tell me what know about Russia pls?

Waiting for you Mr Stallin family..........
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Georgekyrian(m): 10:03pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
Do you know the country called Russia or your speaking out of hate.. Bro if those men are at war, the citizen don’t even know. Media is deceiving you drastically
USA never chop to compare to the nation called Russia
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Xkale1996(m): 10:08pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
mumu
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Kukutenla: 10:18pm On Jul 09, 2023
HonNL:
SOURCE
The biggest mistake Americans will make is to vote Biden for a second term. Ask these old clueless men need to go rest instead of plunging their country into abyss. Ask Nigerians
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Regex: 10:28pm On Jul 09, 2023
Masterviolence:
Please name those countries that can finish Russia.

In a conventional warfare the only country that can challenge Russia is the u.s.
The only problem is that the invader will be crushed, be it Russia or the u.s.
I think the US is overrated. Personally China could deal a blow but then again, these two conduct military service together.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by AfonjaPriest: 10:34pm On Jul 09, 2023
I don't pity Ukraine one bit. They allowed themselves to push foolishly into a stupid war. Zelensky has been used; only time would tell what would happen to him after cessation of hostilities or outright surrender.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by GeorgeRasks(m): 10:38pm On Jul 09, 2023
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Masterviolence:
grin
Premature

All this noise will not be heard after that summit in Lithuania.

Ukraine joining NATO is all but a dream, there's a reason over 30 countries don't want to go to war with Russia.

Alone, no country can win a war against Russia conventionally, yet Ukraine decide to fight against them for an outsider.

The pace of this war was decided in the beginning by Putin and Russia, because taking over Ukraine in the beginning would've been a grave mistake for the Russians, a borden too heavy to carry.
Also killing while fighting against your own people is easier said than done.

The phase of this war now is for Ukrainians to go to the Frontlines and die.
Simply, u just said my mind...
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by foolbuster: 10:46pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
Lolz, Ukraine will never join NATO whether it's pre or post war as long as Russia still stands
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by todugo(m): 10:46pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
Lol. did I say God isn't real

As for Ukraine not joining NATO, it will surely happen, they've been pushed to the wall
Una two dey misyarn. The truth of the matter is that America and NATO decieved Zelensky by persuading him to Join offering him money and the mumu agree. Now look at what he has turn his country into because of selfish greed.

What NATO want was to establish it military warhead close to Russia; it's like your enemy forming a camp around your gate.

Putin warned Zelensky but he was strongheaded and is now being used like a puppet. Ukraine is already gone as a country it's now a warzone for the nuclear warheads to test strength grin grin
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by tete7000(m): 11:05pm On Jul 09, 2023
LibertyRep:
You say what? At what point did they know it's premature?
After thousands have been killed in the war?

May we not be unfortunate to be used as guinea pigs for proxy wars.
Stalin couldn't be President of Russia but that of USSR. The fact that you no longer have USSR itself tells you that you can't hold people together by force, even a living Stalin wouldn't continue holding USSR together.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Olumaeme: 11:09pm On Jul 09, 2023
Yes I agree with BIDEN.
Let the war be over first and Ukraine will happily dance to NATO.

Putin will cry at the end of the day!
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Algold:
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
After NATO especially USA led Ukraine to war on Ukraine soil destroying lives and properties, my hate for USA increasing day by day. The fear of Russia is the beginning of wisdom
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Originalsly: 11:38pm On Jul 09, 2023
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
Would you have supported China and Russia if they had provided military support for Iraq and Libya when they were invaded by the US and NATO? Would you have said the invaders should pull out and go back home? I'm just checking for something.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Nobody: 1:11am On Jul 10, 2023
Masterviolence:
So you've moved from the u.s will kill Putin to God will kill Putin?

Don't compare God to mere men, but keep in mind God does not support evil.
That's why He l screw Putin, jihadists and you his Nairaland noisemaker
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Agustephenogwo: 2:14am On Jul 10, 2023
So what do you say about Bush,Tony Blair and Obama? Are they not war criminals?
Yankiss:
Zelenskiy, see your life. Biden knows exactly what he meant. Ukraine joining NATO now means NATO joining the war with Russia, a potential world war 111. Zelenskiy is not smart. He is being fed with weapons to continue destroying his country and people. The best bet is sue for peace. I am not exonerating Putin either. That one is guilty of war crimes. He is descending from hero to infamy in the cast of Adolf Hitler.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Onyiiobi7735(m): 2:29am On Jul 10, 2023
Masterviolence:
Which wall?
When Russia, their elder brother was telling them that what they were doing is wrong and there are repercussions they didn't listen, they believed in the reassurance from the west in armaments and Intel.

The reason Ukraine still have a voice to speak is because there is no Stalin-like president in Russia.

Putin is just so lenient, they should thank God for that because they would've been bombarded from the surface of the earth if Stalin is the current president of Russia.
Were Trump to be in power, this war wouldn't have been.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Onyiiobi7735(m): 2:37am On Jul 10, 2023
LibertyRep:
You say what? At what point did they know it's premature?
After thousands have been killed in the war?

May we not be unfortunate to be used as guinea pigs for proxy wars.
Exactly! The Ukrainian government was very foolish to be dancing to the manipulation of the West, thinking they can stand up to Russia.Now they are almost entirely relying on weapons sent to them by the US and its allies.I pity any country that won't learn anything from this and would dance to Western manipulation.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Onyiiobi7735(m): 2:47am On Jul 10, 2023
sad sad The Ukrainian government was very foolish to be dancing to Western manipulation and thinking they can stand up to Russia.Now the war has heavily taken its toll on them and they are relying almost entirely on Fighter jets,tanks, drones and missiles launchers sent to them by the West.
Now the US that contributed to the war says it's premature for Ukraine to join NATO.
After thousands have perished in the war?
I sincerely pity any country that won't learn anything from all these, and choose to dance to Western manipulation.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:51am On Jul 10, 2023
SangoOlukosoOba:
Oh! Finland is not a threat?

It doesn’t share long land boarders with Russia?

It’s not closer to St. Petersburg?

Say something else please!
A nuke on st Peter will hurt Finland Finland own st Peter in the older days so they won't want Russia to be nuked that is a military gain why Russia allow them join.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Minjim: 2:51am On Jul 10, 2023
Get your facts right.

Ukraine isn't fighting Russia. Ukraine is only defending it's territory and people.

It was Russia that invaded Ukraine.
Masterviolence:
grin
Premature

All this noise will not be heard after that summit in Lithuania.

Ukraine joining NATO is all but a dream, there's a reason over 30 countries don't want to go to war with Russia.

Alone, no country can win a war against Russia conventionally, yet Ukraine decide to fight against them for an outsider

The pace of this war was decided in the beginning by Putin and Russia, because taking over Ukraine in the beginning would've been a grave mistake for the Russians, a borden too heavy to carry.
Also killing while fighting against your own people is easier said than done.

The phase of this war now is for Ukrainians to go to the Frontlines and die.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:05am On Jul 10, 2023
Olumaeme:
Yes I agree with BIDEN.
Let the war be over first and Ukraine will happily dance to NATO.

Putin will cry at the end of the day!
before war will be over if Ukraine wants peace them they will sign they won't join nato and the 23% land Russia took will forever be in Russia hope you now understand it lol go study what happened to Georgia.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by royalfly(m): 3:48am On Jul 10, 2023
Peppysco:
You call this a conspiracy, after the U.S, the biggest factor in this war game just mentioned that Ukraine wouldn't be joining N.A.T.O as earlier promised, conspiracy must have a new meaning now. You expect me to be a man like Zelensky, nah, wouldn't do that. Won't trade the lives of my citizens for Western approvals, never. You also said Russia wouldn't attempt to attack Ukraine again, you're wrong, it will continue to, even if Putin is no longer the president. This war will never end, not anytime soon, the Israel and Palestine factor will always play out here.
Your perspective is a nigerian one, look at the issue from an international perspective. This war will end sooner than you thought. Ukraine was never going to join nato especially as the war started. We all knew this. It probably would have joined before the war. It may join join after the war not during the war, except nuclear weapons are used by Russia which I strongly believe that they will not. You don't get it, America did not start the war in Ukraine, these are the theories u all postulate that I call conspiracy, Ukraine us a sovereign nation and can decide her decisions as she chooses, but Russia played a bully instead of good regional politics to keep Ukraine from romancing with America. Go and read the history of Ukraine and America relationship. Russia messed up that's a fact. Only Ukrainians can defend Ukraine, nobody is trading lives. The Ukrainian flag should fly in Ukraine not the Russian flag. What is good is good what is bad is bad.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Odani: 4:12am On Jul 10, 2023
Masterviolence:
grin
Premature

All this noise will not be heard after that summit in Lithuania.

Ukraine joining NATO is all but a dream, there's a reason over 30 countries don't want to go to war with Russia.

Alone, no country can win a war against Russia conventionally, yet Ukraine decide to fight against them for an outsider.

The pace of this war was decided in the beginning by Putin and Russia, because taking over Ukraine in the beginning would've been a grave mistake for the Russians, a borden too heavy to carry.
Also killing while fighting against your own people is easier said than done.

The phase of this war now is for Ukrainians to go to the Frontlines and die.
Did u follow the war from inception? Saying Russia is dictating the pace of the war is laughable. A country dat claimed it will over run Kiev in less than a week almost 2yrs ago? Putting/Russia is no longer invincible as they made us believe in the past
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by Odani: 4:18am On Jul 10, 2023
Masterviolence:
Which wall?
When Russia, their elder brother was telling them that what they were doing is wrong and there are repercussions they didn't listen, they believed in the reassurance from the west in armaments and Intel.

The reason Ukraine still have a voice to speak is because there is no Stalin-like president in Russia.

Putin is just so lenient, they should thank God for that because they would've been bombarded from the surface of the earth if Stalin is the current president of Russia.
This ur statement spews ignorance all over. Do u know y Russia cant use air strike to bomb it's neighbour? Its d same reason isreal is still sleeping soundly despite its hostile neighbour. One air strike from Russia and seven more will face her. Go and read b4 posting sentimental write up
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by bluefilm:
God1000:
I agree with Biden, the timing is wrong.

At least this war should be over before any of such discussion, but what can Putin do if Ukraine joins NATO now? Nothing

I salute the unwavering support of the Biden administration for Ukraine, the invaders should pull out and go back home.

Putin should be more concerned about the cracks in his government, he won't survive another mutiny.

The invasion of Ukraine has further enlarged NATO with Finland membership and Sweden very soon, so what's the point of this senseless war? it has turned counterproductive.
It's not even about whether the timing is right or wrong.

Part of the conditions of joining NATO is that your country must not be in a war.

So anytime that Ukraine tries to join NATO, Russia finds a way to create a serious crisis in Ukraine.

That has been Russia's strategy for stopping Ukraine from joining NATO right from time.

Which means that as long as Russia exists, Ukraine CAN NEVER JOIN NATO!!!

That is to say, the timing WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG, unless NATO will make some exceptions for Ukraine and admit them into their fold nonetheless.
Re: Ukraine's Bid To Join NATO Is Premature - Joe Biden by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 4:38am On Jul 10, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
A nuke on st Peter will hurt Finland Finland own st Peter in the older days so they won't want Russia to be nuked that is a military gain why Russia allow them join.
The point is that, why didn’t Putin attack Finland on the verge of joining NATO? Cos if Putin wants to justify the way in Ukraine, he needs to attack Finland too.
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