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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 9:20am On Jul 16, 2023
a4turitoroman:

They are bashing him for posting this
They will want to shut down any one that voices out against this.

This is why I said they are out to emasculate men. If you notice, this world is beginning to breed a lot of weak men. Men that will rather make excuses for women stupid and reprehensible behaviors just cos they feels society will celebrate them as heroes.

Na themselves them dey destroy sha....time will come when men will start avoiding them and they will beg for attention so bad.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:25am On Jul 16, 2023
grin

May page 2900 favour me and my family.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 9:43am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

Most of you are using the word consensual loosely. Do you believe an individual can't be coerced into consensual sex ?

Doesnt make it rape though.

Ask any married couple you know, this is quite common; many a time when she's ovulating.

Also, if I'm compelled into parting with my cash, does it make it robbery?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:44am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


Doesnt make it rape though.

Ask any married couple you know, this is quite common; many a time when she's ovulating.

Also, if I'm coerced into parting with my cash, does it make it robbery?
Brooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 9:53am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


Doesnt make it rape though.

Ask any married couple you know, this is quite common; many a time when she's ovulating.

Also, if I'm coerced into parting with my cash, does it make it robbery?
Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape. Harvey Weinstein is a perfect example. What are you talking about ?If you are being coerced into parting with your cash how is it not robbery. Is that not what you call 419.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:56am On Jul 16, 2023
ỌLỌGBÓN: WISDOM, BRILLIANCE AND INTELLIGENCE

Wisdom is Ọgbọ́n in Yoruba.

Brilliance is Orí pípé.

Intelligence is làákàyè.

You could be wise, but not brilliant.

You could be brilliant but not wise.

But you could not be wise without being intelligent.

You could be brilliant but not intelligent.

Wisdom comes out of intelligence that enables one to connect past events and experiences to make decisions in the present or future.

For instance, a wise person knows that you do not touch fire without getting burnt.

To act with wisdom is a demonstration of intelligence.

But could you be brilliant and not be intelligent? Yes.

You may be brilliant, but still keep getting burnt by fire.

A brilliant person may fail an examination that s/he should normally have passed easily. For example, a brilliant person may forget to bring a pen and other writing materials to the exam hall to take a writing test.

A wise person brings the pen and writing paper to the exam hall. But the wise person may still fail the exam if s/he is not brilliant enough for the test.

Brilliance seems related to genetics and may be inherited. But brilliance could also be cultivated from concentrating on a subject or idea.

Wisdom is learned. Wisdom is enlightenment that comes only from contact, experience and patience.

A brilliant person may be an unsuccessful person.

People fail not because they are not brilliant but often because they are not wise.

If you do not choose your career wisely you will most probably fail: you could probably have been a brilliant artist, but if you unwisely choose the legal profession, your brilliance is wasted.

A wise person may find success without being brilliant.

The intelligent person, from diligence, constant application and patience, may turn wisdom to brilliance and find success.

Seek intelligence, whether it is artificial (AI) or human.

May our Orí lead us to the path of success as we gather intelligence, seek wisdom and cultivate brilliance.

May Olodumare give us ọgbón, orí pípe and làákàyè in all we do, so we may enjoy a successful life.

Now, what do Yoruba people refer to as “Ọgbón àgbọ́n-ì-gbọ́n-tan?”

It is to be too clever by half; to be penny wise, and pound foolish.

Source: Prof. Moyo Okediji via FB

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:57am On Jul 16, 2023
A001:
ỌLỌGBÓN: WISDOM, BRILLIANCE AND INTELLIGENCE

Wisdom is Ọgbọ́n in Yoruba.

Brilliance is Orí pípé.

Intelligence is làákàyè.

You could be wise, but not brilliant.

You could be brilliant but not wise.

But you could not be wise without being intelligent.

You could be brilliant but not intelligent.

Wisdom comes out of intelligence that enables one to connect past events and experiences to make decisions in the present or future.

For instance, a wise person knows that you do not touch fire without getting burnt.

To act with wisdom is a demonstration of intelligence.

But could you be brilliant and not be intelligent? Yes.

You may be brilliant, but still keep getting burnt by fire.

A brilliant person may fail an examination that s/he should normally have passed easily. For example, a brilliant person may forget to bring a pen and other writing materials to the exam hall to take a writing test.

A wise person brings the pen and writing paper to the exam hall. But the wise person may still fail the exam if s/he is not brilliant enough for the test.

Brilliance seems related to genetics and may be inherited. But brilliance could also be cultivated from concentrating on a subject or idea.

Wisdom is learned. Wisdom is enlightenment that comes only from contact, experience and patience.

A brilliant person may be an unsuccessful person.

People fail not because they are not brilliant but often because they are not wise.

If you do not choose your career wisely you will most probably fail: you could probably have been a brilliant artist, but if you unwisely choose the legal profession, your brilliance is wasted.

A wise person may find success without being brilliant.

The intelligent person, from diligence, constant application and patience, may turn wisdom to brilliance and find success.

Seek intelligence, whether it is artificial (AI) or human.

May our Orí lead us to the path of success as we gather intelligence, seek wisdom and cultivate brilliance.

May Olodumare give us ọgbón, orí pípe and làákàyè in all we do, so we may enjoy a successful life.

Now, what do Yoruba people refer to as “Ọgbón àgbọ́n-ì-gbọ́n-tan?”

It is to be too clever by half; to be penny wise, and pound foolish.

Source: Prof. Moyo Okediji via FB
A thoughtful piece on the distinction between brilliance, intelligence, and wisdom.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:00am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

He won't be able to hide them from the U.S government. They would have throughly ransacked each and every transaction and I.P address he had any dealing with. Maybe you have forgotten what they did to those hackers and the Sony stolen cash that was converted to Bitcoin.
Woodberry was charged and sentenced for just one wire fraud . Nobody dey ransack anything .

Maybe u should read what he was investigated and charged for before making assumptions

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:01am On Jul 16, 2023
TrebleChamp:
I absolutely agree with this post, our polithiefcians are so wicked and heartless. Nigeria is poor, yet this heartless people want to buy cars worth ₦150m+ each for over 500 lawmakers...

OasisX, what's your opinion on this?

Especially when he related it with how we spend?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:05am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

He won't be able to hide them from the U.S government. They would have throughly ransacked each and every transaction and I.P address he had any dealing with. Maybe you have forgotten what they did to those hackers and the Sony stolen cash that was converted to Bitcoin.

lol, have you heard of tornado cash or stake.com? That's how funds are washed

Not to mention a fraudster will have other addresses that have never interacted with each other on chain, killing dead any link to him

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:07am On Jul 16, 2023
BlueRayDick:

Woodberry was charged and sentenced for just one wire fraud . Nobody dey ransack anything .

Maybe u should read what he was investigated and charged for before making assumptions
Read the post of the person I was replying to before getting defensive over nothing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:13am On Jul 16, 2023
Ibime:


lol, have you heard of tornado cash or stake.com? That's how funds are washed

Not to mention a fraudster will have other addresses that have never interacted with each other on chain, killing dead any link to him
The only way he will hide anything successfully is if the U.S government just takes his plea deal were he gave up all his known assets and relaxed on his case. If not down to the last 100 in any account in Nigeria will be found and retrieved. What they did those hackers and that sony employee tells me after God( metaphorically speaking) the next people you should fear is the FBI.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 10:16am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape. Harvey Weinstein is a perfect example. What are you talking about ?If you are being coerced into parting with your cash how is it not robbery. Is that not what you call 419.

These were not the examples that were given earlier, we were speaking of relationships with power dynamics - Which I could easily argue exist in ALL relationships. Also u skipped the example where I talked about men having sex when madam is ovulating even when they would prefer not to; Does that count as rape?

419 refers to fraud or claims to obtain money fraudulently. The mens rea is obvious here. I'm talking about parting with my cash when I dont want to because I was coerced/compelled to due to "our power dynamic" relationship. Does that count as robbery?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:21am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


These were not the examples that were given earlier, we were speaking of relationships with a power dynamics - Which I could easily argue exist in ALL relationships. Also u skipped the example where I talked about men having sex when madam is ovulating even when they would prefer not to; Does that count as rape?

419 refers to fraud or claims to obtain money fraudulently. The mens rea is obvious here. I'm talking about parting with my cash when I dont want to because I was coerced/compelled to due to "our power dynamic" relationship. Does that count as robbery?

Before going further into this back and forth argument. Do you agree that this below is a sex crime? Your answer will determine my next reply. Take note we are talking about sex in the work place and how an individual can be coerced into consent.


Bombblacks:

Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 10:23am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

He won't be able to hide them from the U.S government. They would have throughly ransacked each and every transaction and I.P address he had any dealing with. Maybe you have forgotten what they did to those hackers and the Sony stolen cash that was converted to Bitcoin.

Anybody who thinks Woodberry is coming out to meet his hidden loot or a possibility of it still doesnt know how this works or to what extent his plea bargain culminated.

Only peeps I know who get away with it in real life is in narcotics and obviously cos its in physical cash
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:25am On Jul 16, 2023
By the way sex for grade is a crime in Nigeria and punishable with jail term. Now relate that to the work place and even church.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:28am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape. Harvey Weinstein is a perfect example. What are you talking about ?If you are being coerced into parting with your cash how is it not robbery. Is that not what you call 419.

What you typed now, is that the meaning of consensual or does consensual has another meaning in your own dictionary?

You people will just go to the opposite side just to have something to argue about.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 10:28am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

Before going further into this back and forth argument. Do you agree that this below is a sex crime? Your answer will determine my next reply. Take note we are talking about sex in the work place and how an individual can be coerced into consent.



The word coercion is not the best use of all the prior examples. but yes the example you gave should fall under sex crimes
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:29am On Jul 16, 2023
You are typing coerce, threaten and still putting consensual in the same sentence.

Smhs

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:29am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


The word coercion is not the best use of all the prior examples. but yes the example you gave should fall under sex crimes

That man doesn't know what hes saying abeg.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:32am On Jul 16, 2023
larride:


What you typed now, is that the meaning of consensual or does consensual has another meaning in your own dictionary?

You people will just go to the opposite side just to have something to argue about.
Are you arguing that a consent cannot be coerced or what is this weak defense supposed to mean.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:35am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


The word coercion is not the best use of all the prior examples. but yes the example you gave should fall under sex crimes
Thats all I needed to hear.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 10:36am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


Anybody who thinks Woodberry is coming out to meet his hidden loot or a possibility of it still doesnt know how this works or to what extent his plea bargain culminated.

Only peeps I know who get away with it in real life is in narcotics and obviously cos its in physical cash
Spot on.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:38am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

Are you arguing that a consent cannot be coerced or what is this weak defense supposed to mean.

Uncle the moment you put coerce or threaten into that kind of situation, its automatically a sex crime.

You are not in the market place where they dont know the difference between having consensual sex between adults and coercing or threatening someone into sex.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:39am On Jul 16, 2023
GrammarNazi1:

I have not seen something as stupid as not punishing a false rape accuser the same way a rapist would be punished.
It's not supposed to work like this na cheesy

Do you punish a person that accused someone of committing murder to death or life imprisonment because they couldn't prove their case in court?

Rape is a crime that's very difficult to prove, doesn't mean it doesn't happen and doesn't mean by the end of this year there won't have been far more men committing rape successfully and walking away than there would be women making men go through the same ordeal as Benjamin Mendy.

Benjamin Mendy might have a case though, especially if he can prove a conspiracy by the girls to accuse him of rape, even when they knew he didn't rape them.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:43am On Jul 16, 2023
User09:


Anybody who thinks Woodberry is coming out to meet his hidden loot or a possibility of it still doesnt know how this works or to what extent his plea bargain culminated.

Only peeps I know who get away with it in real life is in narcotics and obviously cos its in physical cash

there is one difference - woodberry is being deported back to nigeria. there are very few systems in place to audit or track him in nigeria. if he was an american citizen, he would be severely limited in what he could do.

it is possible he has money stashed somewhere, but there is no guarantee what can happen in 8 years. 8 years is a long long time.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kimbeast: 10:53am On Jul 16, 2023
Bombblacks:

He won't be able to hide them from the U.S government. They would have throughly ransacked each and every transaction and I.P address he had any dealing with. Maybe you have forgotten what they did to those hackers and the Sony stolen cash that was converted to Bitcoin.
The people who created and designed the Blockchain algorithm works for them. Gone are the days when Bitcoin transaction was untraceable
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 11:01am On Jul 16, 2023
GloriousGbola:


there is one difference - woodberry is being deported back to nigeria. there are very few systems in place to audit or track him in nigeria. if he was an american citizen, he would be severely limited in what he could do.

it is possible he has money stashed somewhere, but there is no guarantee what can happen in 8 years. 8 years is a long long time.

Oh...Of course he does/did

Having access to it after eight years in electronic form is what is unlikely
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:09am On Jul 16, 2023
larride:


What you typed now, is that the meaning of consensual or does consensual has another meaning in your own dictionary?

You people will just go to the opposite side just to have something to argue about.
I honestly don’t know when consensual have another meaning

According to google
permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.
"no change may be made without the consent of all the partners"

So how can I coerce you to do something and it become consensual
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:20am On Jul 16, 2023
iamoyindamola:

I honestly don’t know when consensual have another meaning

According to google
permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.
"no change may be made without the consent of all the partners"

So how can I coerce you to do something and it become consensual

Na everything all these woke people dey redefine now . Dem don redefine even Vaginaa. Shey na ordinary consensual dem no go fit redefine ?

Dey play grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 11:21am On Jul 16, 2023
Blud typed coerce and consensual in the same sentence


Omo my brain is paining me 😭😭
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:32am On Jul 16, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Na everything all these woke people dey redefine now . Dem don redefine even Vaginaa. Shey na ordinary consensual dem no go fit redefine ?

Dey play grin
The issue I have with these people is their argument no they ever get head or tail
That was how one said sex between pastor and church member is a crime where is your proof he changed it to molested sex who did not know anything molest is a crime
Now today this one is joining coerce and consensual together I mean how do they relate sef
If I force you do something how did it become consensual

Then our resident mad man said the females are endangered species this is someone that once hunted and targeted gays
Omo this thread 😂😂😂

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