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Chief Whole Olanipekun, a legal luminary who defended Bola Ahmed Tinubu at the CCB and Goodluck Ebele Jonathan at PEPT on the same day.... He is a genius!


Obidafts have been crying all over the place since he dropped those bombs at the PEPT.

Penguin2:
When we say you lots are pathetic it will seem as if we are talking.

Just a little education….

This Olanipekun’s address has not even been formally laid in court. That would happen tomorrow.

After tomorrow, Obi’s legal team will have 7 days to respond to the written address.

So, where did you see Obi lawyer’s address that is watery?

Obi's address will clearly be based on what happened in court and am afraid he has no answer to wole.wole took care of everything.even you know that deeply inside you

Penguin2:
When we say you lots are pathetic it will seem as if we are talking.

Just a little education….

This Olanipekun’s address has not even been formally laid in court. That would happen tomorrow.

After tomorrow, Obi’s legal team will have 7 days to respond to the written address.

So, where did you see Obi lawyer’s address that is watery?

You should wait for Obi’s watery response and stop having sleepless nights over Tinubu’s defense. You can even join Livy and the other incompetent clowns handling Peter Obi’s petition to come up with their final address. Tell them the law to quote and the one not to quote.

fergie001:
Twitter and cruise...... There is something we call context. Osun had no issue with two-thirds or 25%.

In the history of our democracy, we have only had this situation in the Awo v Shagari time.

At the time, we had 19 States with Shagari winning 12. Awo argued that two-thirds of 19 is not 12, but should be 13.

The SC affirmed Shagari in a 6-1 verdict. The only dissent was Justice Kayode Eso (of Blessed memory)

I knew the reference was about the FCT argument.

But these are the facts…

In 1979, the FCT was Lagos.

In 1979, the constitution in use was 1979 constitution.

But in 2023, the FCT is Abuja.

And the constitution in use is 1999 constitution which gave a special status to Abuja following the recommendation of the Committee on the FCT; this special status was not enjoyed by Lagos as FCT.

Again, the argument is not about satisfying “2/3” but about satisfying a quasi-independent provision of “25% in the FCT”.

You see why citing that Awolowo vs Shagari case is near useless to the case at hand?

I'm not a lawyer but, I don't think one will cite a case won by a lawyer in the team challenging his client.

If I remember correctly, Onyechi Ikpeazu (SAN) was in the legal team of Ademola Adeleke and is representing Peter Obi so, you can't blame the man, Wole Olanipekun (SAN) for ignoring the judgement and cite the one of the '70's.

That's how I see it.

mexxy1:
I'm not a lawyer but, I don't think one will cite a case won by a lawyer in the team challenging his client.

If I remember correctly, Onyechi Ikpeazu (SAN) was in the legal team of Ademola Adeleke and is representing Peter Obi so, you can't blame the man, Wole Olanipekun (SAN) for ignoring the judgement and cite the one of the '70's.

That's how I see it.

Please don’t say this in public.

People will laugh at you in a way you won’t like yourself.

helinues:
Wailers should rest IJN

Is Osun election federal election?

Why are there so many half baked lots in the opposition's camp?

I'm Aminat from Abuja. Someone came to our office and pleaded that we should help you with a job to keep you engaged. Are you literate enough to work with us?

Penguin2:
[/quote]Can you help me interpret this judgement of the SC in Bakare v Ogundipe (2021):

By virtue of the provisions of section 299 of the Constitution, it is so clear that Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory of Nigeria, has the status of a State. It is as if it is one of the States of the Federation.

(It can be found in (Pages 36-37, paragraphs E-A))

[quote author=garfield1 post=124454457]Lagos is a full state and doesn't need any special status.any special status given it will elevate it beyond other states while Abuja is less than a state and needs that special status to be equated with states

I have explained this to him before. That the FCT is below a State hence some of these Court decisions were to bring them to the status of a State.

Penguin2:
Please don’t say this in public.

People will laugh at you in a way you won’t like yourself.

Thank you. I was thinking from a layman's perspective which is why I stated in my first sentence that, 'I am not a lawyer'.

Thank you.

Penguin2:
I knew the reference was about the FCT argument.

But these are the facts…

In 1979, the FCT was Lagos.

In 1979, the constitution in use was 1979 constitution.

But in 2023, the FCT is Abuja.

And the constitution in use is 1999 constitution which gave a special status to Abuja following the recommendation of the Committee on the FCT; this special status was not enjoyed by Lagos as FCT.

Again, the argument is not about satisfying “2/3” but about satisfying a quasi-independent provision of “25% in the FCT”.

You see why citing that Awolowo vs Shagari case is near useless to the case at hand?

Lagos is a full state and doesn't need any special status.any special status given it will elevate it beyond other states while Abuja is less than a state and needs that special status to be equated with states

fergie001:
Twitter and cruise...... There is something we call context. Osun had no issue with two-thirds or 25%.

In the history of our democracy, we have only had this situation in the Awo v Shagari time.

At the time, we had 19 States with Shagari winning 12. Awo argued that two-thirds of 19 is not 12, but should be 13.

The SC affirmed Shagari in a 6-1 verdict. The only dissent was Justice Kayode Eso (of Blessed memory)

Same way, I am of the highest conviction that they will definitely affirm Bola Tinubu without any shadow of a doubt.

/How exactly is this your problem sir? You be more concerned about how Peter Obi's lawyer will prove that he won the election.

fergie001:
Can you help me interpret this judgement of the SC in Bakare v Ogundipe (2021):

By virtue of the provisions of section 299 of the Constitution, it is so clear that Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory of Nigeria, has the status of a State. It is as if it is one of the States of the Federation.

(It can be found in (Pages 36-37, paragraphs E-A))


I have explained this to him before. That the FCT is below a State hence some of these Court decisions were to bring them to the status of a State.

You think they don't know? They know but it doesn't suit their narrative.all arguments about fct being mandatory is watery and untenable.abj has no gov,has just two reps,one senator,no legislature just 6 lgas which means it is a quasi or semi state in reality but the constitution has stated that it should be seen as a state to avoid inequality,confusion, discrimination.all apex court judgments has restated this.there is no way they will now elevate abj over other states.
If Lagos or a proper state was the fct,then this argument can be tenable.we can from one to two not one and jump to 3

Penguin2:
I knew the reference was about the FCT argument.

But these are the facts…

In 1979, the FCT was Lagos.

In 1979, the constitution in use was 1979 constitution.

But in 2023, the FCT is Abuja.

And the constitution in use is 1999 constitution which gave a special status to Abuja following the recommendation of the Committee on the FCT; this special status was not enjoyed by Lagos as FCT.

Again, the argument is not about satisfying “2/3” but about satisfying a quasi-independent provision of “25% in the FCT”.

You see why citing that Awolowo vs Shagari case is near useless to the case at hand?

What special status? A lie told most often, doesn’t necessarily make it true.

Anything APC always wants to turn logic on its head. Turn truth into lie. Change black into white. This is the nauseating thing about these gangs of desperate criminals in government.

chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. When he does that, he’ll be reminded that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases like the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedents.


Now here is where the politics take place… actually the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case but they let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it, since you want to feel more recent, and case will be closed.


Why did you think they let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?

It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

You are smart

Beremx:
Wole Olanipekun is overrated. Defending Tinubu at the tribunal has exposed a lot. It is really difficult defending a stolen mandate

This election really pain you 😂😂😂😂

Unfortunately , you don't have good records among your folks here because of your support for buhari .

chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. When he does that, he’ll be reminded that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases like the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedents.


Now here is where the politics take place… actually the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case but they let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it, since you want to feel more recent, and case will be closed.


Why did you think they let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?

It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

I believe law is about precedents , when he was making his case to the Judge he stands to be corrected or challenge with objections from the opposing counsel, if they can't do that in the Presence of the Judge ... Then they should leave the matter to as " your Lordship pleases."

garfield1:
Wole is not partisan,he is just a bizman

He is partisan.

But I don't blame him. Everyone will always support their benefactors.

chatinent:
He is partisan.

But I don't blame him. Everyone will always support their benefactors.

He isn't,he doesn't belong to any party.he is defending pdp in enugu.in 2011 he defebded gej

Wrong/bad/evil doers and their supporters must surely and certainly be disgraced when time comes.


C'est la loi de la nature.

seunmsg:
In reality, this Peter Obi’s case has exposed how empty you are. You’ve never posted any reasonable opinion other than rehashing the same nonsense the headless mob are sharing.

Na woman dis one must quote..
Left the whole men for fear of being dragged like a Tiger generator. Islam head worshippers vis a vis women get as e be lol

If dem born you well...ok

Thank God/Fortunately the judges, each of them has his brain/mind/heart/conscience to lead him or them to serve the right judgement at this critical time of a sinking country called Nigeria.

Penguin2:
Reading through the written address of Tinubu and Shettima lawyers at the ongoing election petition tribunal led by supposed respected senior lawyer Wole Olanipekun, one can’t help but giggle at the hollowness and shallowness of their defense.

In the address, Mr Olanipekun was busy citing the case of Shagari vs Awolowo that happened as far back as 1979 under the 1979 Constitution and in election conducted by FEDECO, as our electoral commission was called then.

Since 1979, we’ve have had many reformations to our electoral laws and have even changed our constitution.

If anything, the most relevant case as far as election cases are concerned in Nigeria today, is the Supreme Court ruling in Osun in case of Oyetola vs Adeleke. This case is the most relevant because it is the only Supreme Court decision since the Electoral Act 2022 came into force.

Ironically, Mr Olanipekun surreptitiously ignored the Osun case which has a lot of similarities with the case at PEPT as they both bother on the place of technology in our election and to what degree INEC can choose to apply or ignore technology in our elections.

It is pertinent to state these things for the world to hear, read and see, so that we all keep an eye on the judiciary and see what comes out it.

Remember that it is not enough to do justice, justice must also be seen to have been done.

fergie001:
Can you help me interpret this judgement of the SC in Bakare v Ogundipe (2021):

By virtue of the provisions of section 299 of the Constitution, it is so clear that Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory of Nigeria, has the status of a State. It is as if it is one of the States of the Federation.

(It can be found in (Pages 36-37, paragraphs E-A))


I have explained this to him before. That the FCT is below a State hence some of these Court decisions were to bring them to the status of a State.

Instead bringing these judgments in isolation, why not also state the the matter in contention when the judgment was made?

Section 299 likened Abuja to a state strictly as it regards the administration of the territory. The section even started with a clause, “accordingly”, and then went on to enumerate what it was referring to when it said that the FCT should be treated as a state. There are 3 subsections to that section and none referred to matter of election. Now in law, what is not mentioned is not stated; you can’t add to the constitution what it did not say.

This goes to say that Section 299 likening Abuja to a State in terms of its administration does not preclude its place as part of electoral criteria that MUST be satisfied before one is validly elected president. That is to either win it or score at least 25%.

If we interpret the constitution the way you folks have been doing, then every successive section of the constitution will nullify the previous section when it regards same matter or subject.

Garfield1

garfield1:
He isn't,he doesn't belong to any party.he is defending pdp in enugu.in 2011 he defebded gej

He was its benefactor then, but now he switched sides.

It's not bad anyways. It's politics.

Penguin2:
Instead bringing these judgments in isolation, why not also state the the matter in contention when the judgment was made?

Section 299 likened Abuja to a state strictly as it regards the administration of the territory. The section even started with a clause, “accordingly”, and then went on to enumerate what it was referring to when it said that the FCT should be treated as a state. There are 3 subsections to that section and none referred to matter of election. Now in law, what is not mentioned is not stated; you can’t add to the constitution what it did not say.

This goes to say that Section 299 likening Abuja to a State in terms of its administration does not preclude its place as part of electoral criteria that MUST be satisfied before one is validly elected president. That is to either win it or score at least 25%.

If we interpret the constitution the way you folks have been doing, then every successive section of the constitution will nullify the previous section when it regards same matter or subject.

Garfield1

All judgment on Abuja has been the same,it is a state.like I've said before,once other prayers fail fct will fail

garfield1:
Lagos is a full state and doesn't need any special status.any special status given it will elevate it beyond other states while Abuja is less than a state and needs that special status to be equated with states

Was Lagos a full state when it was the Federal Capital Territory?

chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. Wole is not a charge and bail lawyer! He actually allows you to make his win very easy!

Let's think it. When he does use outdated case laws, he’ll be reminded, maybe by the other counsel that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases similar. Which other recent case would all fingers point to? It is the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedents!


Now here is where the politics take place… and what you don't know. Actually, the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case. So Wole let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it as tho standing on the recent protocol you suggested.

Guess what? Since you want to feel more recent with cases, the case will be closed and they will win. If you suggested a recent case that that case is introduced, you WILL lose the case!

Why did you think the APC let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?



It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

It's was an organised case law.

Let's check:

The APC-led administration has been subject to criticism due to the economic challenges experienced during their tenures. True.

However, it is noteworthy that they have demonstrated adeptness in engaging in strategic political maneuvers, leveraging their party networks, and creating an illusion of popular participation in decision-making processes. Meanwhile, it is all a mirage in achieving the goal!

Even the Naira design was a plan to make other parties feel there was disunity within the party and they loss guard and failed to plan.

Obi too was banking on people's participation and pity politics. He should have added a backup dark politics too. Oh don't criticize me, politics was always darker.

Check the APC's darker politicis...

During the past electoral process, a strategy is employed wherein a divisive narrative is constructed, leading to the formation of factions and subsequent tribal conflict....the Igbo-Yoruba tribal war, the Wike-pdp war, and the Kwankwaso assisting to reduce the northern votes.

During the period of tribal conflict between the Yorubas and Igbos, the candidate affiliated with the LP experienced an unexpected defeat in a situation where they were initially considered to have a significant likelihood of emerging victorious.

Check!

Consider the reasons behind the cessation of the overheated tribal conflict subsequent to the victory! The Yorubas were convinced by the APC...thr sitting government that an individual of mixed heritage was not considered a genuine Yoruba and instead was associated with the Igbo agenda. I mean, like how did you guys believe that unintelligible tact!

A significant number of individuals were deceived, resulting in the government reverting back to its previous state. The game was the focal point for the APC and they got it.

The LP also was winning the presidential election. They employed the use of commotion in the LP strongholds, and when they saw it wasn't really working cos they were winning Lagos, Aduja, Jos etc, their plan-B was the last hope... EyeNeck !


They banked on the corrupt system. Why? "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.". That's Nigeria for you! Nothing always not happen to the rich in Nigeria!

Also, don't you forget that the British never stopped colonising Nigeria. They only relocated to their country. It's cost-effective and easier to control pawns from a distance! Like no one will know it's neo-colonialism!

You see? Sometimes, democracy isn't of the people and by the people or for the people. It is actually want the govt wants and the people sees from far.

You are one of the intelligent guy in this forum, sometimes I just feel like puking reading some comment here online, no wonder their emperor was a third class graduate, when they mention Osun case they quickly forget that by that judgement the precedent will follow the supreme court judgement, I do ask them that APC lawyers were too wise, they deliberately made a resolution that none of the legal team must address the press. When they talk about FCT votes we always tell them that constitution will never make Abuja votes more superior than Abia or Kano votes. Whenever they talk about drug Case I always remember them that thesame Tinubu have been a senator and two term Governor. If Obasanjo and Jonathan could not remove Tinubu when he was in opposition it must be fooly of you to think that TINUBU will be sacked as a sitting president. What Moronic obi supporters we have here

Penguin2:
Was Lagos a full state when it was the Federal Capital Territory?

Was Lagos not one of the 19 states in 1979

garfield1:
Was Lagos not one of the 19 states in 1979

Good!

Now, if Abuja was not intended to have a special status, why was it not just designated a state in the 1999 constitution just like Lagos was a state in the 1979 constitution?

chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. Wole is not a charge and bail lawyer! He actually allows you to make his win very easy!

Let's think it. When he does use outdated case laws, he’ll be reminded, maybe by the other counsel that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases similar. Which other recent case would all fingers point to? It is the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedents!


Now here is where the politics take place… and what you don't know. Actually, the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case. So Wole let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it as tho standing on the recent protocol you suggested.

Guess what? Since you want to feel more recent with cases, the case will be closed and they will win. If you suggested a recent case that that case is introduced, you WILL lose the case!

Why did you think the APC let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?



It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

It's was an organised case law.

Let's check:

The APC-led administration has been subject to criticism due to the economic challenges experienced during their tenures. True.

However, it is noteworthy that they have demonstrated adeptness in engaging in strategic political maneuvers, leveraging their party networks, and creating an illusion of popular participation in decision-making processes. Meanwhile, it is all a mirage in achieving the goal!

Even the Naira design was a plan to make other parties feel there was disunity within the party and they loss guard and failed to plan.

Obi too was banking on people's participation and pity politics. He should have added a backup dark politics too. Oh don't criticize me, politics was always darker.

Check the APC's darker politicis...

During the past electoral process, a strategy is employed wherein a divisive narrative is constructed, leading to the formation of factions and subsequent tribal conflict....the Igbo-Yoruba tribal war, the Wike-pdp war, and the Kwankwaso assisting to reduce the northern votes.

During the period of tribal conflict between the Yorubas and Igbos, the candidate affiliated with the LP experienced an unexpected defeat in a situation where they were initially considered to have a significant likelihood of emerging victorious.

Check!

Consider the reasons behind the cessation of the overheated tribal conflict subsequent to the victory! The Yorubas were convinced by the APC...the sitting government... that an individual (Lagos indigene) was of mixed heritage and was not considered a genuine Yoruba and instead was associated with the Igbo agenda. I mean, like how did you guys believe that unintelligible tact! So poor!

A significant number of individuals were deceived or say convinced that truly it was Igbos trying to take Lagos...so they fought back, resulting in the government reverting back to its previous state. Lol. The game was the focal point for the APC and they got it.


During elections, we are not Nigerians, we name our states first!

Let's continue...

The LP also was winning the presidential election. They employed the use of commotion in the LP strongholds, and when they saw it wasn't really working cos they were winning Lagos, Aduja, Jos etc, their plan-B was the last hope... EyeNeck !

It was also necessary to adjust the LP's score to the third position to have a better legal case in case.


They banked on the corrupt system. Why? "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.". That's Nigeria for you! Nothing always not happen to the rich in Nigeria!

Also, don't you forget that the British never stopped colonising Nigeria. They only relocated to their country. It's cost-effective and easier to control pawns from a distance! Like no one will know it's neo-colonialism!

You see? Democracy isn't never of the people and by the people or for the people. It is actually want the govt wants and the people sees from far. In reality, the majority decisions do not always count!

You tried but destroyed it with your bias.apc did not rig or use inec to rig.it was just a simple calculation.they massively defeated lp in the core north which covered lp votes in se SS.why do you guys keep forgetting this? Do you even need to rig lp in zamfara,borno, sokoto?

Penguin2:
Was Lagos a full state when it was the Federal Capital Territory?

Penguin2:
Good!

Now, if Abuja was not intended to have a special status, why was it not just designated a state in the 1999 constitution just like Lagos was a state in the 1979 constitution?

Lagos as FCT was geographically and administratively different from Lagos state. Shehu Shagari appointed John Jatau Kadiya as minister of FCT while Jakande served as the democratically elected governor of Lagos state. Both existed side by side with clear boundaries until IBB moved FCT to Abuja in 1991 and Lagos FCT was merged with Lagos state to form a bigger Lagos state. Stop trying to muddle up facts when I’m here.