livebyday:


Are you not in your 50s? why do you reason like this ? Do you understand the concept of irony sarcasm or even propaganda? Before you start jumping to say foreign doesn't mean betterask for data from which these so called foreign trained students are.from!!

People who studied in Cotonou will also tell you they are foreign trained and it's indeed true but

There is a big difference between a doctor trian3d in Russia Israel, united states United Kingdom South Africa, Egypt , Germany, Australia etc and those trained in Ghana , Niger , Ethiopia etc but on paper they are all foreign trained

d33types:


Thank you. This is the simple fact and a well sounded summary above. Unfortunately this explanation isn't for the common demographics on nairaland, most of who have chosen to be permanently bitter, obtuse and deliberately hateful to doctors as usual.

During my 500L, my teaching hospital hosted them, and I understood how/why these FMGs struggled due to being in an unfamiliar medical terrain, and coupled with the Nigerian factor which we all know, most failed. Some of those who who failed are now near being specialists with me in the UK.

I guess you took the exam as your Centre had MDCN accreditation issues?

DOM7:
Nigeria just want to hype her standard to discourage others from moving abroad.

Okiton:

Have the required jamb score of 285 to study med/surgery in Nigeria government and going the rigorous daily stress is a prove that Nigerian medical graduates are intelligent

Confirmedzombie:
Why can't they publish the names of those that passed and those that failed.

Its obvious Peter Gringory Obi will soon react on this.

jaephoenix:

Please stop posting falsehood. Do your research if you must. Nigerian medical schools aren't amongst the best in the world. We just have smart students that get trained in poor or average medical schools. We make extra efforts and dig into our 'smart boxes' when we take foreign exams

Light777:
No doctor in any teaching hospital who wouldn't know what laparoscopic surgery or bronchoscopy is, unless he or she doesn't know what he is doing...Even a medical student knows it.Dont exaggerate while trying to make sense..

But Nigeria educational curriculum is due for some adjustments though.

FreeStuffsNG:
Lobatan. Foreign doesn't mean better.They should study harder for the resit. Check my signature for free stuffs!

Brendaniel:
What this simply means is that most of the doctors that came here are among the worst from foreign countries.

So while we send most of our best to foreign countries they in turn send most of their worst to our country

Moniya4Real:
Just listen to yourself, making excuses for the white man’s level of education. Cos don’t know why you hastily believed theirs might not be included.

updatechange:



And why are most of ours meeting their own standards and theirs ain’t leveling up?

jaephoenix:

I didn’t say MDCN did something wrong. What I'm saying is the IMGs are exactly dunces for failing Nigerian exams since it wasn't their fortes. Nigerian docs also fail PLAB and USMLE too. Its how medical practice is structured

FreeStuffsNG:


https://punchng.com/529-foreign-trained-doctors-failed-medical-exam-mdcn/

jaephoenix:

Try and understand before making comments. Many diseases and management protocols are endemic to some certain climes. We don't include Cystic Fibrosis, Thalassemias, Marple Syrup disease etc in our medical training here because u would most likely not see any patient with such in 100 years of practice here.
Is it too hard for you to understand?

Jeezuzpick:


Bruh, I'm not a doctor, but I had friends in Medicine as a student.

The way they were loading their brains with stuff, I'm not sure other countries do that.

I know someone who went to LAUTECH for medicine who is outside already. He won no awards or stuff like that.

InvertedHammer:

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I beg to differ.

The question is: What is the structure of the examination?

It is difficult to study and train with modern equipment and be tested on archaic practices bordering on "cram and vomit". Many Nigerians who excelled in many professions abroad were initialed failed in Nigerian schools. Do you ever wonder why? Last time I checked, graduates from Nigerian universities are not world class. They need to update their curricula. Don't be surprised that it is the same exams that they used in the 1980s that they are still using in 2023.

Talk to doctors in your Teaching Hospitals about laparoscopic surgery or even common bronchoscopy, they will look at you like an alien.

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ponishah:

Having the highest grades and scores doesn't necessarily make one a better professional, though high grades are very fantastic. I think most best practising professionals are from around between 60% to 75% grade holders.
I don't think I have heard of a fantastic high profile Doctor or Lawyer in the field who is a first class holder.
I am curious, I love all my kids to make first class, but distinction grade makers thrive mostly in the academia, administration, research etc.
That aside, they should list the countries those who failed obtain their certs from, that is if it is getting prevalent, so that parents could be guided better. But I also believe that among the list of the 704 foreign graduates that failed the assessment, about 55% of them could be very good in practicing as professionals, even better than some new medical graduates in Nigeria. In Nigeria we lay too much emphasis on difficult exams., and less on practical.

ItisWell22:


All you mentioned were included in mine.

Talk for your set, Chief… 😊🙏

Not undermining the fact that passing foreign licensure exams are quite tough, but basic preparation expects an individual familiarizes him/herself with the prevalent diseases in the intended place of practice… 🥱

Adolak:


What are you?

A medical doctor or just a layman?

The answer will guage your level of understanding.

jaephoenix:

If you say you were managing Cystic Fibrosis, Thalassemias in Nigeria, well, I won't say you are lying. But its rare. You won't see questions from them in Nigerian medical schools, that's for sure. And you won't see MDCN examine you on them.
About the familiarization you talked about, you're only given 3 months. 3 months to do what others did in 3 years. Not fair

DSS1335:
They should be specific of what they meant by foreign-trained medical graduates.
I observed it is very easy to obtain an MBBS/BDS degree from other African institutes compared to European. I won't be surprised that the majority of those who failed this assessment were students who couldn't make it in Nigerian institutions but made it big in University of Sudan, Gambia, Mozambique, Cameroon, Lesotho, etc. Thumbs up to MBBS graduates of Uniport, UI, Unilag, UNN, etc, if they can succeed through the rigorous training here they can succeed anywhere in the world

africanman85:
Is not about exams but there attitude to work. Nigerian doctors are pompous and Neglect there patients expecially in all this teaching hospitals and Fmcs. When they go abroad, they will behave well.

spiceadole:
It still amazes me why anyone would spend so much studying overseas,only to return to Nigeria to hustle for a licence to practice.

Penny wise,pound foolish venture

JohnBullMySon:


It's because you don't understand how exams work. In Nigeria Universities, people hardly score up to 90 unlike foreign universities (US for example).

In Nigeria, academics is filled with hard jargons that are often outdated and aren't useful.

jaephoenix:
It doesn't mean the IMGs (International Medical Graduates) are dullards. It simply means we use a different yardstick here. Those IMGs satisfied their foreign trainers who based their assessments on pathologies endemic in their environment, and some management regimen obtained in their climes.
MDCN conduct their exams based on tropical diseases with Nigeria as a case point. Example is Cystic Fibrosis. Its almost impossible to see a Nigerian with this. But its common in the UK etc. So UK trained docs would be quite comfortable managing it. Thus their exams would consist more of such cases. Now look at Sickle Cell Disease. This is endemic in Nigeria and kinda rare in Caucasians. We know how to manage it and thus our exams (and this MDCN assessment) would feature it hugely. A IMG would not know much about it.
I took the exam even though I'm Nigerian trained. Long story