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MightySparrow:
Who is that man, what is his business?

Guy when sane people are talking about lies in the churches where some idiots are gathering their money to enrich an individual you're supposed to keep quiet!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy when sane people are talking about lies in the churches where some idiots are gathering their money to enrich an individual you're supposed to keep quiet!

Who are the idiots contributing in your organization? Simpletons!


Can't you see a whooping $40m to pay for sexual assault by one of your elders? Who paid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3chu1HD17xs

MightySparrow:
Who are the idiots contributing in your organization? Simpletons!


Can't you see a whooping $40m to pay for sexual assault by one of your elders? Who paid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3chu1HD17xs

Ọmọ nah lie!

Talk about what is happening here in Nigeria where you and i can testify not some cyber news that you can't verify other than pictures and videos of actors.
If something is wrong with my religion point to where it's happening here in Nigeria not far away after all you want me to see the bad fruit of my religion so it should be right in my own territory since there are practicers of the religion here in Nigeria.

People are talking about Muslims killing people of other religions not only in far away counties where we can't ascertain but it's also happening right here in Nigeria.

So provide evidence here not what nobody can verify!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ nah lie!

Talk about what is happening here in Nigeria where you and i can testify not some cyber news that you can't verify other than pictures and videos of actors.
If something is wrong with my religion point to where it's happening here in Nigeria not far away after all you want me to see the bad fruit of my religion so it should be right in my own territory since there are practicers of the religion here in Nigeria.

People are talking about Muslims killing people of other religions not only in far away counties where we can't ascertain but it's also happening right here in Nigeria.

So provide evidence here not what nobody can verify!

Hahaha. .
Not once, not twice.....
My Papa is using my money to buy jet.
You elder is using your fortune to booze ( Toni Morris) and pay court fines for lewdness.
My Papa has church also in US nah.

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. .
Not once, not twice.....
My Papa is using my money to buy jet.
You elder is using your fortune to booze ( Toni Morris) and pay court fines for lewdness.
My Papa has church also in US nah.

It's a lie but since you choose to believe it that's your cup of coffee.
Before claiming that Jesus taught his disciples to betray themselves it's not just what Judas Iscariot did once and regretted it badly rather it should be what is happening in congregation everywhere. Your Papa is a Nigerian so it's here that his greed could be clearly seen i have heard lots of things about sects whose branches are far away from Africa but it's when such is happening in my neighbourhood that i can say confidently that it's their way of doing things but as for news that's coming from afar i can never ever use that to quantify a group that i know in my territory to be good people.

MaxInDHouse:
It's a lie but since you choose to believe it that's your cup of coffee.
Before claiming that Jesus taught his disciples to betray themselves it's not just what Judas Iscariot did once and regretted it badly rather it should be what is happening in congregation everywhere. Your Papa is a Nigerian so it's here that his greed could be clearly seen i have heard lots of things about sects whose branches are far away from Africa but it's when such is happening in my neighbourhood that i can say confidently that it's their way of doing things but as for news that's coming from afar i can never ever use that to quantify a group that i know in my territory to be good people.

No one except detractors and cynics like you always run down anything and anyone other than you and yours. Tell us what you know about the running of Winners and other churches, you don't know. All the litigations and maltreatment of your ex members are published loud and large to uncover your hypocrisies..

What oyinbo reported, no Sahara Reporters is not authentic. I laugh in JW's paradise language.



You pay heavy fines yearly to cover evil. You disfellowship people that fault your doctrines.

Delusion is your middle name.

MindHacker9009:
How do you know what is fake and what is real. What research have you ever done into the history of your invented Jesus Christ other then what you have been spoon feed with.

Only worshipping God Almighty of the Jews without the Roman empire invented Jesus Christ is the only true way.

You mean superior Christian weapon from mami water spirits, that makes followers of the Roman empire invented Jesus Christ to have a bat in their wardrobes in secret but in the open be shouting in Jesus Name or like general overseers preaching Jesus Christ but going to get power from marine spirits because they know your invented Jesus Christ is FAKE.

Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina the mermaid left me went to
the general overseer
and brought out a golden cross and chain
from her stomach and wore it on the neck
of the general overseer who gave her
some money the mermaid thanked him and
went back to the sea.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.

Sources:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I

Good grief dude!! I know there were always false prophets and there are false prophets today who use the name of Jesus Christ with another evil intent.

But the existence of EVIL or DARKNESS does not NEGATE the existence of GOOD and LIGHT!!

You have to go back to the Scripture...the Bible. The Bible itself bears witness of the Power it has whenever the name of Jesus Christ is spoken in Truth and Sincerity....no need to consult any other extra dark power....the Power of God in Jesus Christ can prove Himself to anyone.

I am a witness to the Mercy and Grace that is in the Gospel of JEsus Christ...that same Grace that was able to save me from my sins, and heal my sicknesses...and comfort my spirit through the Holy Spirit...were all very Powerful witnesses to me that the Word of God is REAL!! And that JEsus Christ is who He says HE is.

There was a time I was so ill...no medicine could help me. I was shivering with a high fever and blistering headache. It was only when someone I knew sat beside me and simply READ a Chapter from the Bible to me about God's Love and Healing....that I gradually began to recover. After reading, the same person prayed for me in the name of Jesus Christ....then read more of the Bible to me. By the time the friend finished reading the whole Chapter...I was completely healed. Before that, I thought I was on my death bed. So tell me ....what other evidence do you need to be convinced of the fact that the Bible is REAL. Jesus is REAL. And all that HE says He is is very true!!!

Please repent. Accept Jesus Christ into your life today. Time is running out!

J3susFr3ak:
Good grief dude!! I know there were always false prophets and there are false prophets today who use the name of Jesus Christ with another evil intent.

But the existence of EVIL or DARKNESS does not NEGATE the existence of GOOD and LIGHT!!

You have to go back to the Scripture...the Bible. The Bible itself bears witness of the Power it has whenever the name of Jesus Christ is spoken in Truth and Sincerity....no need to consult any other extra dark power....the Power of God in Jesus Christ can prove Himself to anyone.

I am a witness to the Mercy and Grace that is in the Gospel of JEsus Christ...that same Grace that was able to save me from my sins, and heal my sicknesses...and comfort my spirit through the Holy Spirit...were all very Powerful witnesses to me that the Word of God is REAL!! And that JEsus Christ is who He says HE is.

There was a time I was so ill...no medicine could help me. I was shivering with a high fever and blistering headache. It was only when someone I knew sat beside me and simply READ a Chapter from the Bible to me about God's Love and Healing....that I gradually began to recover. After reading, the same person prayed for me in the name of Jesus Christ....then read more of the Bible to me. By the time the friend finished reading the whole Chapter...I was completely healed. Before that, I thought I was on my death bed. So tell me ....what other evidence do you need to be convinced of the fact that the Bible is REAL. Jesus is REAL. And all that HE says He is is very true!!!

Please repent. Accept God Almighty into your life today and not the pagan idol called Jesus Christ. Time is running out for J3susFr3ak! if you do not repent

God Almighty in the Old Testament has not changed. A Jew today too can tell you how he prayed directly to God Almighty and he was healed.
Jesus Christ was used as a psychological warfare against Jewish people about 2000 years ago when Rome were occupying Israel. Then when Africa colonized it was Jesus Christ was forced on Africans as psychological control.

God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only true GOD and in the Old Testament.

JESUS Christ was a fictional character invented by the Romans as a form of ‘psychological warfare’ against Jewish people, a biblical scholar has sensationally claimed.

Joseph Atwill, author of ‘Caesar’s Messiah’, claims to have found ancient confessions from the Romans which states authorities created a ‘messiah’ to pacify Jews in Palestine. The American author says Jesus was not based on a historical figure, but the Romans drew inspiration from historical figures from the First Jewish-Roman War. Mr Atwill said: “Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century.

“When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.

“That’s when the ‘peaceful’ Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give onto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Mr Atwill says he first discovered this revelation when noticing Jesus is “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”.

By comparing the New Testament to the ‘War of the Jews’ by Josephus – the sole surviving account of first century Judea – he found the parallels between the two.

Mr Atwill: “What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus.

“This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1152674/christianity-news-jesus-christ-hoax-bible-romans-jewish







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

MindHacker9009:
God Almighty in the Old Testament has not changed. A Jew today too can tell you how he prayed directly to God Almighty and he was healed.
Jesus Christ was used as a psychological warfare against Jewish people about 2000 years ago when Rome were occupying Israel. Then when Africa colonized it was Jesus Christ was forced on Africans as psychological control.

God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only true GOD and in the Old Testament.

JESUS Christ was a fictional character invented by the Romans as a form of ‘psychological warfare’ against Jewish people, a biblical scholar has sensationally claimed.

Joseph Atwill, author of ‘Caesar’s Messiah’, claims to have found ancient confessions from the Romans which states authorities created a ‘messiah’ to pacify Jews in Palestine. The American author says Jesus was not based on a historical figure, but the Romans drew inspiration from historical figures from the First Jewish-Roman War. Mr Atwill said: “Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century.

“When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.

“That’s when the ‘peaceful’ Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give onto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Mr Atwill says he first discovered this revelation when noticing Jesus is “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”.

By comparing the New Testament to the ‘War of the Jews’ by Josephus – the sole surviving account of first century Judea – he found the parallels between the two.

Mr Atwill: “What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus.

“This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1152674/christianity-news-jesus-christ-hoax-bible-romans-jewish







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

If you truly understand the basis and roots of Christianity, you will understand that it had its core foundations in the writings of the Prophets in the Old Testament affirming to a coming new promise from God for a New Covenant or New Testament. This New Covenant was predicted by Jeremiah the Prophet:

“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of
Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” -- Jeremiah 31:31-34

But if you noticed the last line of the Scripture above talked about forgiveness of sins. Yet even the Jews knew that without the "Shedding of blood, there cannot be forgiveness of sins!"
Hebrews 9:22 says, “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

And the blood of sheep and goat in the Old Testament was never perfect enough to wash away the guilt and sins of the people who made those sacrifices. This is why God Himself chose to be the PERFECT SACRIFICE for the sins of all mankind by dying on the Cross. This is why anyone who chooses to believe in Jesus and ask for forgiveness will experience the thorough cleansing of their consciences and souls from the deadliness of sins to the true Life that is only found in Jesus Christ. This forms the basis of the New covenant Prophets like Jeremiah foretold in the Old Testament. No other blood in this world can wash away your sins and guilt when you confess and ask for God's Mercy. And God will only respect or hear your prayers if you ONLY pray in the name of Jesus Christ and trust ONLY in His Death and Resurrection for your sins.

The Romans DID NOT invent any "Jesus" for any psychological warfare. Stop believing confusion and lies by silly so -called scholars headed for hell.

One of the prominent non-Christian account about the person and existence of Jesus Christ came from a Jewish man called Josephus. Josephus was a Pharisee who participated in the violent revolt against the Roman Empire. But right before the Romans ravaged and sacked Jerusalem, Josephus surrendered to the Romans and his life was spared. He was later tasked to write about the History of the Jews in his large writings on Jewish Antiquities. There, we noticed that someone who even hated the Romans and initially fought against them--who was a staunch Jewish person and may have met and probably disliked a lot of Jewish Christians who did not think they should fight the Romans (heeding to Jesus' warnings in Matthew 24) went about to give an account of the existence of Jesus Christ.. https://www.thefaithexplained.com/blog/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-flavius-josephus/ and https://www.jonathanmorrow.org/what-did-the-jewish-historian-josephus-really-say-about-jesus/

No. The Romans did not "invent" Jesus as a means of Psychological warfare. The same God of the Old Testament through His Supernatural Wisdom and Power humbled Himself to become a human being (the Word become flesh according to John 1:1-5) so that only HE alone as a human being (Jesus Christ) can become the perfect sinless sacrifice for the sins of all mankind who believe in Him--so that they can all be a part of the New Covenant (Jews and Gentile alike) foretold by God through Jeremiah in the Old Testament.

Please stop believing lies. Jesus loves you and wants you to embrace the Truth. Jesus is Lord and Truth!

You need to start by reading this:

sonmvayina:
DEAR CHRISTIANS WHAT IS A SACRIFICE?

1) Lev 4:32
A sin offering had to be a FEMALE GOAT OR SHEEP! Last I checked Jesus pbuh was a MALE HUMAN!

2) Lev 22:22
A sin offering could NOT be INJURED or have WOUNDS or SORES on it's body! According to the so called "gospels" Jesus pbuh aledgedly had multiply bloody wounds on his body before his aledged death on a cross/stake etc

3) Lev 22:25
A sin offering could NOT have ANY INJURIES or DEFECTS on it's body. Jesus pbuh was aledgedly BRUTALLY BEATEN, WHIPPED & PIERCED prior to his aledged death on a cross/stake etc.

4) Deut 12:13-14
A sin offering had to be taken to the priest & sacrificed on the ALTAR in the TEMPLE OF GOD.
To offer a sacrifice ANYWHERE ELSE was a sin & would make the sacrifice UNACCEPTABLE to God.

Jesus pbuh aledgedly died on a cross/stake on a hill.

5) Deut 12:31 & 18:10 + Ezek 16:20,Jeremiah 19:4-5

The Bible speaks about HUMAN SACRIFICE of ANY KIND is an ABOMINATION to God! This idea comes from the pagans, idolators, polytheists etc that did this to please their false gods!

The days of sacrifice have come. Let us sacrifice good fat animals in large numbers.

Meanwhile it is very sad that Christian insist on sacrificing a human being. Pagans are one who were sacrificing innocent sons.

Deautronomy 12:30-31. Deautronomy 18:9-10, Jeremiah 19:4-6.
God do not allow to sacrifice a human being.

He already ransomed Abraham AS. And gave him a ram.

And Abraham sacrifice was part of test .to see his faith not sins sacrifice.
Moses practiced sins sacrifice by sacrificing animals.

Not human beings.
Bible condemned sons sacrifice its a pagans way. God never commanded or knew it or came into his heart. According to Jeremiah 19:4-6

Plus an animal to be sacrificed is not brutally beaten or tossed . so Christianity has no knowledge what a sacrifice is.

It is high priests who were tasked to do sacrifice not dirty people like Plato, herod.
Sacrifice is a peaceful process. Not paying Judas Iscariot to go and arrest Jesus and u call it a sacrifice. .

Have u seen A son Abraham was sacrificing to be tortured or beaten? .

And Abraham sacrifice was not part of sins cleansing .
Abraham sacrifice was to test his faith. And he passed the test .
And he was about to slaughter his son and God stopped him.

That is to tell us that God don't allow shedding a blood of a human being as a sacrifice.
If it was allowed. Then God would have let Abraham to proceed.
But God stopped it and later on hr condemned such practices as pagans evil practices.
Deautronomy 12:30-31!
God already warned the Jews before entering Canaan not to follow such evil practices.
Such evil practice was already happening in cannaan.
Worshippers of Baal were sacrificin their sons.
Deautronomy 18:9-10
Shedding blood of innocent sons. Jeremiah 19:4-5 .
And Jesus confirmed that he was a human being. John 8:40! Luke 24;39

Killing Jesus is evil and break of major law as well.
Thou shall not kill.
Exodus 20:13
So do u mean God led people to break his own major law thou shall not kill?

Thou shall not sacrifice a son?

So such is evil practice from pagans and Paul copied such faith as we know Paul moved around among the pagans .all teachings of Paul contradicted the laws of Moses.
Even Jews condemned him. Acts 21:21

U have created falsehood against God in all department of your faith
Shame on Christianity
So Christianity faith is pagans founded.

May be u will say no Jesus is a lamb/sheep not a human.
Let look into that.
Bible also call people as sheeps.
My sheep hear my voice. John 10:28-29

Mathew 15:24! I was sent to the lost sheep's.
So the question is u mean when are called as a sheep we can kill u?
Can we kill u in regard that u are called a sheep.?
Why u fail to understand anything?
Bible address people as sheep's/lamb /sharped /snakes /vipers etc.

God prohibited shedding blood of a human being.
God condemned the Jews for killing his prophets.
1 king 19:10, Mathew 23:31-33, Mathew 23:37
So do u mean same God sent one of his beloved servant to be killed as well!!!!?-

Lastly let u know that sacrifice is not a top priority to God.
God's top priority is in obeying his commands turning away from wicked ways.2 chronicles 7:14 .

. ARE WE SUPPOSE TO APPEASE GOD FOR OUR SINS OR HE IS SUPPOSE TO APPEASE US AFTER WE HAVE SINNED AGAINST HIM........?
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Repeating the question, may I please know if we the sinners are obliged to appease GOD for our sins and iniquities OR He God is rather obliged to appease we who have SINNED!......? Zaynab Bello

In the past generations when the SIN OFFERING system was active, was it GOD who was sending the rams & goats down from Heaven to be used in appeasing Him OR the sacrificial animal was meant to

come from the flock owned by the SINNER or TRANSGRESSOR to serve as a form of punishment for Him who Might have been rearing that animal for so long a time to sell and raise some money for family upkeep....................?

Since when did God now decide to appease the one who has SINNED AGAINST Him by giving away Someone that precious to Him to be KILLED by the SINFUL hands of the SINNER before He GOD can FORGIVE the SINNER............?

But the funny aspect is, considering all the goats, rams and pigeons used by the SINNERS as a form of appeasing God, this is what He said about them.............Listen carefully Kofi Atta Djan:
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◄ Isaiah 1:11 ►
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"The multitude of your sacrifices-- what are they to me?" says the LORD. "
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Hosea 6:6 Living Bible (TLB)
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6. “I don’t want your sacrifices—I want your love; I don’t want your offerings—I want you to know me.
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Psalm 40:6-8
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In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required.
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1 Samuel 15:22
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And Samuel said, “Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.
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#Why would Such ☝ a God who takes NO delight in SINNERS constantly appeasing Him with offering of goats, Rams e.t.c.....instead of obeying His command take the trouble of appeasing the SINNER rather with one of His beloved!....................................................................?abomination.

sonmvayina:
The above post was copied from a colleague wall on Facebook

J3susFr3ak:
If you truly understand the basis and roots of Christianity, you will understand that it had its core foundations in the writings of the Prophets in the Old Testament affirming to a coming new promise from God for a New Covenant or New Testament. This New Covenant was predicted by Jeremiah the Prophet:

“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of
Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” -- Jeremiah 31:31-34

But if you noticed the last line of the Scripture above talked about forgiveness of sins. Yet even the Jews knew that without the "Shedding of blood, there cannot be forgiveness of sins!"
Hebrews 9:22 says, “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

And the blood of sheep and goat in the Old Testament was never perfect enough to wash away the guilt and sins of the people who made those sacrifices. This is why God Himself chose to be the PERFECT SACRIFICE for the sins of all mankind by dying on the Cross. This is why anyone who chooses to believe in Jesus and ask for forgiveness will experience the thorough cleansing of their consciences and souls from the deadliness of sins to the true Life that is only found in Jesus Christ. This forms the basis of the New covenant Prophets like Jeremiah foretold in the Old Testament. No other blood in this world can wash away your sins and guilt when you confess and ask for God's Mercy. And God will only respect or hear your prayers if you ONLY pray in the name of Jesus Christ and trust ONLY in His Death and Resurrection for your sins.

The Romans DID NOT invent any "Jesus" for any psychological warfare. Stop believing confusion and lies by silly so -called scholars headed for hell.

One of the prominent non-Christian account about the person and existence of Jesus Christ came from a Jewish man called Josephus. Josephus was a Pharisee who participated in the violent revolt against the Roman Empire. But right before the Romans ravaged and sacked Jerusalem, Josephus surrendered to the Romans and his life was spared. He was later tasked to write about the History of the Jews in his large writings on Jewish Antiquities. There, we noticed that someone who even hated the Romans and initially fought against them--who was a staunch Jewish person and may have met and probably disliked a lot of Jewish Christians who did not think they should fight the Romans (heeding to Jesus' warnings in Matthew 24) went about to give an account of the existence of Jesus Christ.. https://www.thefaithexplained.com/blog/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-flavius-josephus/ and https://www.jonathanmorrow.org/what-did-the-jewish-historian-josephus-really-say-about-jesus/

No. The Romans did not "invent" Jesus as a means of Psychological warfare. The same God of the Old Testament through His Supernatural Wisdom and Power humbled Himself to become a human being (the Word become flesh according to John 1:1-5) so that only HE alone as a human being (Jesus Christ) can become the perfect sinless sacrifice for the sins of all mankind who believe in Him--so that they can all be a part of the New Covenant (Jews and Gentile alike) foretold by God through Jeremiah in the Old Testament.

Please stop believing lies. Jesus loves you and wants you to embrace the Truth. Jesus is Lord and Truth!

I think you have still quoted a lot of the Scripture you referenced there out of context MindHacker9009.

You are inferring that any belief system that required any sacrifices that involves a human being is pagan.

Are you also not forgetting that so many pagan world cultures/beliefs in the past and even today also require animal sacrifices too? Does the fact that pagan and occult beliefs require the sacrifice of goats, sheep or even rams make the same Old Testament requirements that used to exist less valid? No!

The same way, even though so many pagan cultures/beliefs had an evil system of human sacrifices does not negate the fact that ONCE and FOR ALL--God Himself took the substitutionary place and position as the ONLY PERFECT SACRIFICE of all mankind --making it very unnecessary for any other animal or human sacrifices ever again only if we believe in Jesus Christ.

You even quoted a FB post from a certain Muslim. Do you not also understand why the Islamic Faith is ever continuously violent and deadly is because of the very FALSE BELIEF that they can wage a Jihad, and TAKE THE LIFE OF AN INFIDEL AS A WAY TO PLEASE THEIR ALLAH AND MAKE HEAVEN? In a way, the Muslim killings of other people who do not share their faith is their own twisted bastardized system of a "substitutionary sacrifice" where the life of the guilty infidel assures the salvation of the blood-thirsty Muslim.

So tell me as we reason this thing together. Which sacrificial system makes more sense to you? Is the One initiated by God as a self-less and sinless sacrifice meant to take the PUNISHMENT (once for all time!) of any guilty soul who believes in Jesus Christ? Or is the one that wants to boast before a certain god that they are zealous enough to kill the soul of unbelievers as a way to assert their own salvation?


How did we get here? The concept of "substitutionary sacrifice" is as old as the Fall of man in the Garden of Eden. When man sinned and discovered they were naked and hid in shame from the presence of God...they covered themselves with "fig leaves". Fig leaves connote every man-made attempt to assuage their guilt or ease their shame with false beliefs. God decided to kill an animal and use the skin of the animal to clothe Adam and Eve. This one action was to tell Adam and Eve the severity of their sins. It created the consequence of introducing death into this world. God killing that first animal to clothe Adam and Eve was a type to show that for every sin, there is a serious consequence of death but to cover Adam and Eve in their sins, the blood of an innocent animal was shed. The Bible says Life is in the blood.

Even after Moses introduced the Law, so many animal sacrifices were made to signify the seriousness of every sin. To mark the seriousness of any violation of said law, the blood from innocent animals was made to cover the shame and unclothedness of the sins of Israel in God's eyes.

Yet...all the blood of animals that was shed under the law could NEVER transform the spirits or hearts of those who kept those laws. It is because the blood of animals under the Law could not fulfill the promise and requirement of the New Covenant. Only the sinless Blood of God Himself could guarantee this much inner transformation and genuine forgiveness of sins. This is why Jesus came. This is why Jesus died...and rose again.

"While God didn’t kill Adam immediately, the breaking of the Edenic covenant brought death. Something had to cover humanity’s sin to restore the broken covenant. The Mosaic covenant provided some relief; it was what Matthew Henry calls “a covenant of grace” where the Israelites shed animals’ blood to cover their sins.

However, the old covenant’s solution wasn’t enough. The high priest had return each year to the tabernacle to make another blood sacrifice and intercede for the people. Also, as Hebrews 8 explains, people kept breaking the covenant. Something more permanent, something higher, had to fulfill all the old promises and create a new agreement. Since Jesus was God’s Son, fully God and fully human, his shed blood could cover all of humanity’s sins throughout all time. Through Jesus’ shed blood, God himself paid the deadly price for humanity breaking the covenants.

When Jesus’ blood was shed on the cross, it not only set up a new covenant. It showed what all the old covenant sacrifices had been trying to show: that sin required a perfect sacrifice to cover the sinners’ actions. Nothing from the natural world could be that perfect, so God became the sacrifice himself, fulfilling his promise to save the lost.

“All the blood on Jewish altars for thousands of years pointed to Him. It proclaimed that what God said, He would also do. When Christ died, the Word was clear. God’s own heart was revealed. He lifted up his hand and made an oath for all heaven and earth to witness.” Robert E. Coleman,

-- https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/why-hebrews-922-say-without-the-shedding-of-blood-there-is-no-forgiveness.html

@J3susFr3ak
There was nothing quoted out of context in what I posted. I did not mention about Islam. All the verses quoted are from the Old Testament and show that Jesus Christ has nothing to do with the Old Testament as he was invented by the Roman empire.
This was who the Roman empire used: Josephus a Jewish priest and the leader of the Jewish rebellion in Galilee against Roman occupation around 66 AD and to save his life had to switch sides to the Roman empire and he was given accommodation in the King's palace in Rome and used him as a tool to help them to invent a gentle messiah called Jesus Christ so that the Jewish zealots can stop waging war against them as there were no Jewish Christians and the Jews were only militaristic and expecting a Messiah like Moses or David to come and help them to defeat the Romans from the land of Israel.

Josephus was born around 37 AD and never saw your invented Jesus Christ, he did not say much about him and this was written long after the invented Jesus' ascension.

You now need to ask yourself how Christianity became the official religion in Rome. It was because your invented Jesus Christ decided to go and appear in Rome 300 yrs later to help a pagan Roman emperor called Constantine to win a Roman civil war that made your invented Jesus Christ the official religion and allowed them to bring your invented Jesus Christ to Africa and the rest of the world through military conquest as you can see in the photos: https://www.nairaland.com/7749251/man-created-concept-god-inorder/5#124431536

This happened just only in the sixties. The story from adults about Oyenusi was that the military then had to remove a pot from his belly as bullets could not enter his body. But the video is now on youtude and there was not thing like that.

If there were video recorders and camera phones during the time of Jesus then all this invented story of Jesus would never have happened.
They Jews know Jesus Christ is an invention of the Roman Empire that's why they will not accept that story.

J3susFr3ak:
I think you have still quoted a lot of the Scripture you referenced there out of context MindHacker9009.

You are inferring that any belief system that required any sacrifices that involves a human being is pagan.

Are you also not forgetting that so many pagan world cultures/beliefs in the past and even today also require animal sacrifices too? Does the fact that pagan and occult beliefs require the sacrifice of goats, sheep or even rams make the same Old Testament requirements that used to exist less valid? No!

The same way, even though so many pagan cultures/beliefs had an evil system of human sacrifices does not negate the fact that ONCE and FOR ALL--God Himself took the substitutionary place and position as the ONLY PERFECT SACRIFICE of all mankind --making it very unnecessary for any other animal or human sacrifices ever again only if we believe in Jesus Christ.

You even quoted a FB post from a certain Muslim. Do you not also understand why the Islamic Faith is ever continuously violent and deadly is because of the very FALSE BELIEF that they can wage a Jihad, and TAKE THE LIFE OF AN INFIDEL AS A WAY TO PLEASE THEIR ALLAH AND MAKE HEAVEN? In a way, the Muslim killings of other people who do not share their faith is their own twisted bastardized system of a "substitutionary sacrifice" where the life of the guilty infidel assures the salvation of the blood-thirsty Muslim.

So tell me as we reason this thing together. Which sacrificial system makes more sense to you? Is the One initiated by God as a self-less and sinless sacrifice meant to take the PUNISHMENT (once for all time!) of any guilty soul who believes in Jesus Christ? Or is the one that wants to boast before a certain god that they are zealous enough to kill the soul of unbelievers as a way to assert their own salvation?


How did we get here? The concept of "substitutionary sacrifice" is as old as the Fall of man in the Garden of Eden. When man sinned and discovered they were naked and hid in shame from the presence of God...they covered themselves with "fig leaves". Fig leaves connote every man-made attempt to assuage their guilt or ease their shame with false beliefs. God decided to kill an animal and use the skin of the animal to clothe Adam and Eve. This one action was to tell Adam and Eve the severity of their sins. It created the consequence of introducing death into this world. God killing that first animal to clothe Adam and Eve was a type to show that for every sin, there is a serious consequence of death but to cover Adam and Eve in their sins, the blood of an innocent animal was shed. The Bible says Life is in the blood.

Even after Moses introduced the Law, so many animal sacrifices were made to signify the seriousness of every sin. To mark the seriousness of any violation of said law, the blood from innocent animals was made to cover the shame and unclothedness of the sins of Israel in God's eyes.

Yet...all the blood of animals that was shed under the law could NEVER transform the spirits or hearts of those who kept those laws. It is because the blood of animals under the Law could not fulfill the promise and requirement of the New Covenant. Only the sinless Blood of God Himself could guarantee this much inner transformation and genuine forgiveness of sins. This is why Jesus came. This is why Jesus died...and rose again.

"While God didn’t kill Adam immediately, the breaking of the Edenic covenant brought death. Something had to cover humanity’s sin to restore the broken covenant. The Mosaic covenant provided some relief; it was what Matthew Henry calls “a covenant of grace” where the Israelites shed animals’ blood to cover their sins.

However, the old covenant’s solution wasn’t enough. The high priest had return each year to the tabernacle to make another blood sacrifice and intercede for the people. Also, as Hebrews 8 explains, people kept breaking the covenant. Something more permanent, something higher, had to fulfill all the old promises and create a new agreement. Since Jesus was God’s Son, fully God and fully human, his shed blood could cover all of humanity’s sins throughout all time. Through Jesus’ shed blood, God himself paid the deadly price for humanity breaking the covenants.

When Jesus’ blood was shed on the cross, it not only set up a new covenant. It showed what all the old covenant sacrifices had been trying to show: that sin required a perfect sacrifice to cover the sinners’ actions. Nothing from the natural world could be that perfect, so God became the sacrifice himself, fulfilling his promise to save the lost.

“All the blood on Jewish altars for thousands of years pointed to Him. It proclaimed that what God said, He would also do. When Christ died, the Word was clear. God’s own heart was revealed. He lifted up his hand and made an oath for all heaven and earth to witness.” Robert E. Coleman,

-- https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/why-hebrews-922-say-without-the-shedding-of-blood-there-is-no-forgiveness.html

MindHacker9009:
@J3susFr3ak
There was nothing quoted out of context in what I posted. I did not mention about Islam. All the verses quoted are from the Old Testament and show that Jesus Christ has nothing to do with the Old Testament as he was invented by the Roman empire.
This was who the Roman empire used: Josephus a Jewish priest and the leader of the Jewish rebellion in Galilee against Roman occupation around 66 AD and to save his life had to switch sides to the Roman empire and he was given accommodation in the King's palace in Rome and used him as a tool to help them to invent a gentle messiah called Jesus Christ so that the Jewish zealots can stop waging war against them as there were no Jewish Christians and the Jews were only militaristic and expecting a Messiah like Moses or David to come and help them to defeat the Romans from the land of Israel.

Josephus was born around 37 AD and never saw your invented Jesus Christ, he did not say much about him and this was written long after the invented Jesus' ascension.

You now need to ask yourself how Christianity became the official religion in Rome. It was because your invented Jesus Christ decided to go and appear in Rome 300 yrs later to help a pagan Roman emperor called Constantine to win a Roman civil war that made your invented Jesus Christ the official religion and allowed them to bring your invented Jesus Christ to Africa and the rest of the world through military conquest as you can see in the photos: https://www.nairaland.com/7749251/man-created-concept-god-inorder/5#124431536

This happened just only in the sixties. The story from adults about Oyenusi was that the military then had to remove a pot from his belly as bullets could not enter his body. But the video is now on youtude and there was not thing like that.

If there were video recorders and camera phones during the time of Jesus then all this invented story of Jesus would never have happened.
They Jews know Jesus Christ is an invention of the Roman Empire that's why they will not accept that story.

What year were you born? And that year you were born is based on whose real life and birth again? Even the year your country got its independence is based on the Life of Christ. Wiser people have existed before you...deep scholars have studied longer and harder than you have...atheists have argued and gotten tired trying to dismiss the historical and supernatural Reality of who Jesus is.

You cannot fight Truth and Reality and win. Your logic and arguments are all flawed.

J3susFr3ak:
What year were you born? And that year you were born is based on whose real life and birth again? Even the year your country got its independence is based on the Life of Christ. Wiser people have existed before you...deep scholars have studied longer and harder than you have...atheists have argued and gotten tired trying to dismiss the historical and supernatural Reality of who Jesus is.
You cannot fight Truth and Reality and win. Your logic and arguments are all flawed.

The Jews have their own Jewish calendar so also do other religions too. The fact that we are using the Roman empire calendar is because Nigeria was colonized by the Europeans does not prove that Jesus Christ was not a fictional character.
If Nigeria was colonized by the Jews then we have been using the Jewish calender not based on the birth of anyone.

You keep beleiving this that a pagan god mated with another man's wife to have his only begotten son and then offered the only begotten son as sacrifice to himself.
If not then post verses in the Old Testament where we can find such.

Here are other accounts about the name Jesus during the same time as Jesus Christ from Flavius Josephus the Jewish first century historian:

"But before he could speak to them, the most warlike of the
insurgents made a sally upon them with their arms ; their leader
was one whose name was Jesus, the son of Shaphat, the captain
of a band of robbers." - The Jewish War 1st Century

"Jesus and his men led off to the city, and rejoiced as if
they had taken them in battle and not by surprise.
Now the elders of the people, and such as seemed
of principal authority among them, fearing what would be
the issue of the matter, fled to the camp of the Romans :
and taking their king mth them, fell down before Vespa-
sian as suppliants, and besought him not to despise
them, nor to impute the madness of a few to the whole
city, but to spare a people that had ever been friendly to
the Romans, and to bring the authors of this revolt to
punishment, who had hitherto so watched them, that
though they had long been anxious to give the Romans the
security of their right hands, they had not yet found an
opportunity to do so." - The Jewish war 1st Century

"but Jesus and those that -were with him left
the garrison and fled through the country, when others
ran down to the lake, and met the enemy face to face ; and
some were slain as they were trying to get on board their
ships, and others as they attempted to swim to those ships
that had already put out to the middle of the lake." - The Jewish war 1st Century

"The best esteemed also of the high priests, as Jesus
the son of Gramala, and Ananus the son of Ananus, at their
assemblies bitterly reproached the people for their apathy,
and excited them against the Zealots, for that was the name
those audacious persons went by, as if they were zealous in
good practices, and were not rather zealous and extravagant
in the worst actions." - The Jewish war 1st Century

And this is what followers of the invented Jesus Christ based all your historical claim on:

"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, 9 those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; 10 as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day." The Jews at Rome 1st Century

Sources: https://ia800309.us.archive.org/17/items/cu31924074297205/cu31924074297205.pdf
https://www.pdfbooksworld.com/bibi/pre.html?book=315.epub