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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by vdestro: 1:43pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:You who is already mad, it tells us the amount of mkpiri opium you have running in your soul. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 1:43pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
vdestro:In your New Testament, jesus spoke Aramaic, what’s “god” in Aramaic? |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by vdestro: 1:44pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 1:46pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
vdestro:You are deep into abrahamaic religions. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by vdestro: 1:47pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
petra1:What a great feat. Explaining to a mad person. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by MindHacker9009(op): 1:47pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
vdestro:I'm not surprised when you and other followers of your invented Jesus Christ always turn to insults as the psychological opium of the invented Jesus Christ is so strong you can never reason for yourselves so as to do research and find out the truth of the origin of your invented Jesus Christ. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by vdestro: 1:47pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:You are deep into stupidity living. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by vdestro: 1:54pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:I am always surprised when you devils insult first and when i insult back, you start crying. You think The Law of do to others does not apply to you mad devils? Your fellow mad people stay in the dustbin areas of the market, go there and rant your madness. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 2:25pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:U just jumping and down. You usual straw man argument. The question is simple. Was the title elohim used for any Israelite king? It doesn't matter if elohim is a Hebrew word or not. Or it can be used as gods. Did any Israelite king ever called himself Elohim. That's my question. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 2:28pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You just displaying your ignorance. Elohim is not a chieftain title. Kings are not only the one that are referred to as elohim. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 2:36pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: This is another one for u Psalm 110 The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” 2 The Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying, “Rule in the midst of your enemies!” 3 Your troops will be willing on your day of battle. Arrayed in holy splendor, your young men will come to you like dew from the morning’s womb. 4 The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” U dumb head that should be in Sunday school learning basic bible principles would come here with kindergarten knowledge to debate Christian theology. Get ready my 500 dollars provided u have one in the first place. And as for your statement about following white man's religion. U only have a leg to stand on if u are not using anything invented by the white man that replaced what your ancestors were using. Otherwise u only making a fool of yourself because u equally insulting your own intellect. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 2:39pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Be careful of the bible VERSION you are reading. In this passage the first word (LORD) in Hebrew is the four-letter (yud-hai-vav-hai) sacred name of G-d. However the second (Lord) is a completely different word spelled (aleph-dalet-nun-yud). Although this letter combination of letters can spell a name of God, there is no example in Tanach where this particular form (prefixed by the Hebrew letter “lamed- ל” which mean “to,”) is used to mean “to my God.” In modern Hebrew, it is used like the English word "sir" or “master.” The phrase “slicha adonee” means “excuse me sir.” Based on this mistranslation many Christian English New Testaments intentionally capitalize the letter “L” to promote their opinion that this word is Divine. This are JEWISH BOOKS. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 2:40pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:Good, then Psalm 45 cannot be talking about any Israelite king. This your earlier arguments are null and void. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 2:42pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You don’t understand the Jewish books you are gobbling. A Psalm of Asaph, Psalm 82,” the first verse reads: אלוהים נצב בעדת אל בקרב אלוהים ישפט – Elohim Nitzav Ba’ehdat El Bekerev Elohim Yishpot – “…God takes His stand in the congregation of God; He judges in the midst of the rulers.” A form of the word Elohim appears three times in this verse, the first time it refers to God(yahweh)Himself, the second time it is speaking of “the congregation of God,” and the third time refers to “the rulers” of the people. The human rulers spoken of in the context of this chapter are clearly “judges,” those who make judgements for the people.
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by MindHacker9009(op): 2:49pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 2:56pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:The gods spoken about here are humans. Yes we humans are gods but this verse clearly states these gods are mortal and will die. “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” The elohim spoken about in psalm 45 cannot be human because he will reign forever. Your throne, O God,[c] will last for ever and ever; Maynman is Noe officially an anti-trinitarian. See how she's using the bible to disprove trinity...no longer Wikipedia. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:02pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Where in the verse is this? “ The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.” The throne which is the davinic line will last forever. See here. Thus, it is said: “Solomon sat upon the throne of the Lord as king, in place of his father, David, and he was successful” (1 Chronicles 29:23). And that psalm 45 was by sons of koher in a WEDDING, where the musicians doing the prophecy?
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:03pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I’m using the Tanakh do disprove the nonsense you have in your Christian bible VERSION. There’s a reason the jews reject Iesus chrestus. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:10pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:So u believe in Judaism. U believe the tanakh is true. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:11pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I know judaism, tanakh is a mythology book just like theogony. The tanakh is talking about isrealite people and their gods. Theogony about the greeks and their gods, all of them are fighting local deities in their various regions The New Testament you have is a Roman Parody. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:15pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:Here's psalm 82. God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”: 2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. 5“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” 8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance. It's not my fault u didn't see psalm 82.5 b4 jumping at the chapter as a defence against psalm 45, not knowing they actually confirm each other. That's the problem with selective reasoning. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:21pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:Is there any Davidic or Solomon lineage reigning on a physical throne today? Then psalm 45 cannot be talking about their physical lineage. The Davidic line that will rule forever is the Messiah. And his reign is a divine rulership. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:21pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Where did you read psalm 82:5 from? So god is presiding among the wicked? Because that verse is talking about the wicked, the elohims that i said are people of authority that have been anointed, judges, rulers. Verse 5 was talking about the wicked people. Verse 6 is talking about the judges that presides with yahweh. 😂😂
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:23pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Did jesus ever reign on any throne till now? Or when will the “forever” start? |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:25pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:The changing of LORD to Lord is a copy and paste problem. All English bible refers to the first word as LORD which is YAHWEH. All other sentence and words remain valid.
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:26pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You are reading a VERSION not a Translation. Calm down, I’m talking about the Second lord In this passage the first word (LORD) in Hebrew is the four-letter (yud-hai-vav-hai) sacred name of G-d. However the second (Lord) is a completely different word spelled (aleph-dalet-nun-yud). Although this letter combination of letters can spell a name of God, there is no example in Tanach where this particular form (prefixed by the Hebrew letter “lamed- ל” which mean “to,”) is used to mean “to my God.” In modern Hebrew, it is used like the English word "sir" or “master.” The phrase “slicha adonee” means “excuse me sir.” Based on this mistranslation many Christian English New Testaments intentionally capitalize the letter “L” to promote their opinion that this word is Divine.
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:37pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:Even your own laughter shows u not making any sense. So judges that presides with God will die like mere mortals. ![]() I won't continue to discuss divine theology with a confused atheist. Today he's pro- Muslim, tmrw he's pro Judaism, another time he pretends to be atheist. I remember advising u to go learn from bible critics how to research the bible, it's obvious u didn't take that advice to heart. The reason for your continued embarrassment. The thread owner has been very careful not to quote me. Obviously he quickly realised he dealing with things far beyond his depth and understanding. Otherwise himself go collect. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:40pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Psalm 82:1– yahweh standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the elohim. Read! A Psalm of Asaph, Psalm 82,” the first verse reads: אלוהים נצב בעדת אל בקרב אלוהים ישפט – Elohim Nitzav Ba’ehdat El Bekerev Elohim Yishpot – “…God takes His stand in the congregation of God; He judges in the midst of the rulers.” A form of the word Elohim appears three times in this verse, the first time it refers to God(yahweh)Himself, the second time it is speaking of “the congregation of God,” and the third time refers to “the rulers” of the people. The human rulers spoken of in the context of this chapter are clearly “judges,” those who make judgements for the people.
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:43pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:They might still be reigning ooo ![]() This are jewish myths and Roman Parody. https://news.sky.com/story/holy-oil-to-anoint-king-charles-iii-at-his-coronation-is-consecrated-in-jerusalem-12824834 He is holding globus cruciger and wearing a sceptre. Your throne, O Elohim, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy. Psalm 45.6-7
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| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:45pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:The word Lord is simply adonai. adonai is a plural word, when used in singular form, it's lord. The plural form L ord is used for God because all his names are plural. While lord is used for humans like master. The right word in this chapter is Lord. This Lord described here is a divine being and not mere human He's at the right hand of God- son of God. He has no beginning or end. The Lord has sworn And will not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.” |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by SIRTee15: 3:49pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman:The elohim that will preside over judgements with God, are they mere mortals not not. That's what I want to know. |
| Re: Easy $500 If You Can Show Where The LORD Said Jesus My Son In The Old Testament by Maynman: 3:51pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Don’t you know what singular and plural means again? Adon means lord i.e father. The pluralization of adon "my lord" is adonai "my lords. The hebrew word used there is aleph-dalet-nun-yud). It is repeated in genesis 19:2. רְחוֹב נָלִין and he said: 'Behold now, my lords, turn aside, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your way.' And they said: 'Nay; but we will abide in the broad place all night.' |
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