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Maynman:
You are the ignorant dumb yahweh worshipper.

Send a link to the apostolic fathers that you read, you will be exposed.

Early Jewish Christians (i.e. the Jewish followers of Jesus) referred to themselves as followers of "The Way" (ἡ ὁδός: hė hodós) not “Christians”.

I'm not debating Christianity with u or what the early followers of Jesus was called.

My question is simple.
Who were the apostolic fathers?

SIRTee15:
Mr Man gather your thoughts and arrange your story in chronological order.
So who invented Jesus. It's now Paul and no longer Vespasian or Roman emperor as your video claim.

Maybe we should go back to the basics and build from there.
Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented.
Pls no long story, just simple short answers with factual evidence of necessary.
It's like u and the video u brought here are confusing each other.

My question is simple. Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented?

You are the one who is confused here. If not you would know that the invented New Testament with Paul included in it was all part of the Roman empire invention of your Iesus (Jesus) Christos with Vespasian in charge of the invention with the help of Flavius Josephus a Jewish priest and historian who had switch sides to the Romans to save his own life from the Romans after he led the Galilee resistance against the Romans which I have already mentioned before. Emperor Constantine later made it the official religion of Rome now Europe who took it to the rest of the world.

SIRTee15:
I'm not debating Christianity with u or what the early followers of Jesus was called.

My question is simple.
Who were the apostolic fathers?

Who were before the apostolic fathers?
Who made them apostolic?
Are they from Rome?

Maynman:
Who were before the apostolic fathers?
Who made them apostolic?
Are they from Rome?

If u searching for the apostolic fathers in the 4th century, them uve lost the game before it began.

Research the apostolic fathers. Their discovery will shatter the nonsense evidence u parading up and down.

SIRTee15:
If u searching for the apostolic fathers in the 4th century, them uve lost the game before it began.

Research the apostolic fathers. Their discovery will shatter the nonsense evidence u parading up and down.

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Who made them “apostolic fathers”?
Are they from Rome?

MindHacker9009:
You are the one who is confused here. If not you would know that the invented New Testament with Paul included in it was all part of the Roman empire invention of your Iesus (Jesus) Christos with Vespasian in charge of the invention with the help of Flavius Josephus a Jewish priest and historian who had switch sides to the Romans to save his own life from the Romans after he led the Galilee resistance against the Romans which I have already mentioned before. Emperor Constantine later made it the official religion of Rome now Europe who took it to the rest of the world.

Are u not the one that wrote that Paul claimed he saw the resurrected Jesus.
Now u claiming Paul was part of the script. Was he invented too? Who invented him? Vespasian, Constantine or Josephus.

This comedy from u jokers is beyond fantasy, it's turning to delusion. U guys cannot even gather your thought process and make a coherent claim.

Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented.
Let's start from there and then move up.

Maynman:
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Who made them “apostolic fathers”?
Are they from Rome?

Bye, when u ready to debate 1st century Christianity with me, let me know.
I'm not in for all your childish strawman argument.
This debate was about 1st century Christianity b4 u jumped in as usual with your garbage nobody asked u.

SIRTee15:
Bye, when u ready to debate 1st century Christianity with me, let me know.
I'm not in for all your childish strawman argument.
This debate was about 1st century Christianity b4 u jumped in as usual with your garbage nobody asked u.

There was no “Christianity” in 1st century.

Bring out the apostolic fathers, your ignorance will be exposed!

SIRTee15:
Are u not the one that wrote that Paul claimed he saw the resurrected Jesus.
Now u claiming Paul was part of the script. Was he invented too? Who invented him? Vespasian, Constantine or Josephus.

This comedy from u jokers is beyond fantasy, it's turning to delusion. U guys cannot even gather your thought process and make a coherent claim.

Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented.
Let's start from there and then move up.

It's you who is a jocker as there are enough information now to show that Jesus Christ was an invented character. Even Paul too is an invented character as there are no historical records of Paul other than in the invented New Testament.

This was the real Jesus in the first century from Flavius Josephus the Jewish first century historian you made reference to before.

"But before he could speak to them, the most warlike of the
insurgents made a sally upon them with their arms ; their leader
was one whose name was Jesus, the son of Shaphat, the captain
of a band of robbers.

Jesus and his men led off to the city, and rejoiced as if
they had taken them in battle and not by surprise.
Now the elders of the people, and such as seemed
of principal authority among them, fearing what would be
the issue of the matter, fled to the camp of the Romans :
and taking their king mth them, fell down before Vespa-
sian as suppliants, and besought him not to despise
them, nor to impute the madness of a few to the whole
city, but to spare a people that had ever been friendly to
the Romans, and to bring the authors of this revolt to
punishment, who had hitherto so watched them, that
though they had long been anxious to give the Romans the
security of their right hands, they had not yet found an
opportunity to do so." - The Jewish war 1st Century

The truth is that from the begining a son/sun was chosen/created to rule this world cos the other sons/suns/gods became rebelious. This angered the other sons/gods who started doing everything they can to destroy everything. This son was called in the book of Genesis as the seed of the woman. We also saw this replayed in Rev 12. It is a war between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. The seed of the woman are not christians but direct bloodline of the woman who many don't who she actually is. The son truly came 3000 yrs ago but the serpents did everything to destroy his mission. They killed him and changed his true stories. They then wrote their own account of what happened and told the world that his name is Jesus and many don't know it is the name of another character, actor, impostor created to steal the true stories. That name has nothing to do with the one chosen to end the wickedness of the serpent and his children. So the promised son mentioned in the OT was not "Jesus".

MindHacker9009:
It's you who is a jocker as there are enough information now to show that Jesus Christ was an invented character. Even Paul too is an invented character as there are no historical records of Paul other than in the invented New Testament.

This was the real Jesus in the first century from Flavius Josephus the Jewish first century historian you made reference to before.

"But before he could speak to them, the most warlike of the
insurgents made a sally upon them with their arms ; their leader
was one whose name was Jesus, the son of Shaphat, the captain
of a band of robbers.

Jesus and his men led off to the city, and rejoiced as if
they had taken them in battle and not by surprise.
Now the elders of the people, and such as seemed
of principal authority among them, fearing what would be
the issue of the matter, fled to the camp of the Romans :
and taking their king mth them, fell down before Vespa-
sian as suppliants, and besought him not to despise
them, nor to impute the madness of a few to the whole
city, but to spare a people that had ever been friendly to
the Romans, and to bring the authors of this revolt to
punishment, who had hitherto so watched them, that
though they had long been anxious to give the Romans the
security of their right hands, they had not yet found an
opportunity to do so." - The Jewish war 1st Century

Ok fine. So what decade did Josephus invent this imaginary Jesus. Your video said 70 AD, should we go with that?

Maynman:
There was no “Christianity” in 1st century.

Bring out the apostolic fathers, your ignorance will be exposed!

U know how to use Wikipedia. Go there and read about apostolic fathers.

SIRTee15:
U know how to use Wikipedia. Go there and read about apostolic fathers.

Go back and read, Who made them “apostolic fathers”?
Are they from Rome?

MindHacker9009:
Exodus 4:22 Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son
.

Again, that statement that you pulled out of context was in fact metaphorical description of the people of Israel by God.

21 While Moses was traveling back to Egypt, the Lord spoke to him, “When you talk to Pharaoh remember to show him all the miracles that I have given you the power to do. But I will cause Pharaoh to be very stubborn. He will not let the people go.
22 Then you should say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: Israel is my firstborn son.
23 And I am telling you to let my son go and worship me. If you refuse to let Israel go, then I will kill your firstborn son.’” - Exodus 4 vs 21 - 23

In that passage, anyone able to see could tell that God described the people of Israel as having the same importance that a firstborn son would have to the likes of Pharaoh whose firstborn son He, God, threatened.