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| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by SIONKPO1(m): 12:47pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
@garfield,thank you for codedly exposing APC plot |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by kokorokoman: 1:07pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
kettykings:I like how he schooled you. I hope you have now seen the Importance of Education. It's not by shouting agbado up and down. Kudos Garfield. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by casualobserver: 1:11pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Obi has no case and he knows it. If anyone should be excited it should be Atiku but his camp isn’t because they know they have no case. It still boggles the mind how you can come 3rd and expect to be declared winner without challenging the man who came second or showing evidence that you won, or think that even if Tinubu is disqualified Obi can possibly defeat Atiku in a rerun. The brains of certain people need to be examined and studied in a lab. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Enice(m): 1:17pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
kettykings:I think you must be very dull and unlearned in real life. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by kettykings: 1:21pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Enice:I will choose to be dull and unlearned than be dead and not alive like you. A dull and unlearned person can become smart by choice, a dead person is gone |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by kettykings: 1:24pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
kokorokoman:School indeed , what education are we taking about here , education of a drug baron with a record of personification theft, drug related psst, no record history of primary and secondary school. What a waste of discussion space |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by kokorokoman: 1:30pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 1:56pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
kettykings:baba relax, you have started foaming in your mouth again, you were faced with Intellectual argument by Garfield and all you could say was "suit yourself ". Now you have started typing all these copy and paste Obidient words again and if they face you with intellectual argument again you will forget these words and run again. Illiterate Obidient. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Brendaniel: 1:44pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
garfield1:Voluntary Done or undertaken of one's own free will. Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward. Normally controlled by or subject to individual volition. The way you explained it is as if they placed a gun to Tinubu's head to collect the citizenship, please read the meaning of voluntary there, it does not mean Tinubu must make a request for it, for the fact he accepted it willingly it becomes voluntary, except Tinubu can prove he was forced to collect it. So Atiku doesn't need to prove that Tinubu is still a citizen, as long as he has proved that he was once a citizen and he lied that it wasn't voluntarily gotten then Tinubu is on the wrong side. I heard you are a lawyer, but with the way you talk most times on legal and political matters, I seriously doubt that...... |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by kokorokoman: 1:55pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Brendaniel:even at that, what atiku tendered as evidence in court was an expired passport that was downloaded from the internet. Is an expired document admissible in the law court? |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Brendaniel: 2:04pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
kokorokoman:He didn't download it from the internet, he brought the original copy, please go and verify, even if the document is expired, it is still valid as evidence, it is like saying my expired university ID which has my matric number as evidence in a court cannot be tendered as proof that I went to that particular school. If expired documents are not admissible in court then why do police officers use both expired and valid documents to investigate people. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 2:22pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Brendaniel:Voluntary acquisition of citizenship refers to citizenship that is acquired by deliberate act of an individual eg by registration,naturalization.what tinubu has is citizenship by conferment/honorary citizenship which is involuntary like citizenship by birth.moreover,atiku failed to prove that tinubu was a citizen of guinea talkless of voluntarily acquiring it.the only evidence he tendered was an expired passport which is inadmissible.in the eyes of the law,atiku brought no proof |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Penguin2: 2:30pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
garfield1: How South South South/southeast Will Vote(final Predictions) by garfield1: 12:10pm On Feb 06This was you before the election dishing out unrealistic statistics on what the outcome of the election would be in Southeast and Southsouth. You equally had something similar for other regions. We told you then that you were just hallucinating but you swore that you are a Professor of Real Politick who has been supervising elections since the 1980s. What later happened? Now, you are back to your usual sef deception. This time around you are forming Emeritus Chief Justice of Nigeria with repository of all Nigeria laws in your head, with a touch of clairvoyance to see the future. I will call you back to reality like I always do and ask you to wake up. Just like you didn’t believe what happened at the presidential election could happen, where Obi won the election and INEC had to switch off IREV to switch votes, that’s how you won’t believe what will happen at the Tribunal when they give their judgment. We know Tinubu has dispatched Wike, DG of DSS and other criminals to prevail on the Tribunal to uphold the election but let’s see how that pans out. But go and tell your paymasters that Nigeria is sitting on a keg of gunpowder, and how the judiciary rules will determine what will become of Nigeria going forward. You can break every law before our very eyes and you go and buy judgment from the Judiciary and you expect everyone to swallow it. All Eyes On The Judiciary first! |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Brendaniel: 2:32pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
garfield1:so a conferment cannot be rejected? Was he forced to take it? He voluntarily collected it.... At the same time you are saying Atiku failed to prove that Tinubu was a citizen of Guinea even after presenting an original expired passport? it is like saying my expired university ID which has my matric number as evidence in a court cannot be tendered as proof that I went to that particular school. If expired documents are not admissible in court then why do police officers use both expired and valid documents to investigate people. Oga, I seriously doubt you are a lawyer.... |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by seanfer(m): 2:38pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
garfield1:There can not be a rerun in any 18,000 units so far there are result sheets and all the parties are in custody of the results.... Why can't Obi lawyers prove that the results from those 18,000 polling units are not with them? |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by AmotekunSW: 2:38pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
matrixmuzi:Not as useless as the worthless diseased pig called Mr. Onuoha who produced a smelly waste like you. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by AmotekunSW: 2:40pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
HIGHESTPOPORI:One pig is looking hopelessly |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by vanitybutiwanti: 2:44pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Penguin2:Nigeria is not sitting on a keg of gun powder, maybe it's only the igbos that are sitting on a keg of gunpowder. How do you expect people to take you serious when you come on the internet to propagate beer parlor gossips about BAT sending DSS DG and wike to threaten judges, you're just a clown and a semi illiterate. Tinubu does not have to send anybody to the judges, hell comfortably do his 4 years and if he's alive hell do 8 and there's nothing you or people from your part of the country can do about it |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Britishpea: 2:48pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
The case was dead before it started. How can Obi and Atiku unseat Tinubu with their cases. Tinubu won the election square and fair. Online noises started the lies and we that Obi won by uploading only where they did bettter and it sank well to the small brains of the novices and educated illiterates and became the truth in their minds. This won’t sway the Judiciary from doing the right thing. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Asswipemod: 2:52pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
seunmsg:Kadoso Mutairu aka seunmsg 😆😆😆😆😆 |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Jestin: 2:53pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Time will tell |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Nobody: 2:56pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
garfield1:Aptly put. You think those folks don't know all these facts.. they just mischievously refuse to agree |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by KanwuliaExtra: 2:59pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
The first and only thing that concerns THE WORLD is EBOLA TIEFNUBU’S DISQUALIFICATION ON SEVEN GROUNDS! Say no DEMOCRATIC ILLEGITIMACY. Datti B Ahmed was 💯% CORRECT! The BASTARRRRRD PRESIDIOT MUST GO!!!!🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬 |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by muykem: 3:05pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Penguin2:it always end in frustration, bitterness, bad blood, regret, annoyance for you people while we are rejoicing. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:07pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Penguin2:Obi won which elections The one he came Third... What votes did obi score in North West East and central let alone south west... U guys should tone it down obi LP Lost the third they got and the numbers is quite Fair anyway... |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by Spy360(m): 3:12pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 4:15pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
The grandeur of disillusion. You have been feeding your head wrong information. I should have ignored but for the sake of innocent readers, once again I will debunk ALL. garfield1:This is simply irrational. Ground one: Peter obi has not proven that he won the election and has not brought any proof to that effect.all his evidences points to the fact that tinubu won and that there was irregularities.even the mathematician prof ofoedu's analysis showed the only difference in the overall results was in benue,rivers and 18,000 units that were blurred.no evidence points to peter winning.it is safe to say that obi has abandoned this prayer and wants fresh polls.The CTCs of hardcopies of results INEC gave Peter Obi which were admitted in court showed that there were no results for 8,000 Polling Units (facts). The IREV copies which were supposed to verify the hardcopies showed 18088 blurred and unreadable results of polling units. All these were supplied by INEC. This amounts to over 2.5m votes. Substantial to cancel the elections altogether. However LP on their own submitted 10,000 results from the agents which showed they won all of those PU. The INEC supplied IREV and hardcopies also showed that LP won both Rivers and Benue states. So PO won more states than Tinubu and FCT and also majority of the votes. The result of this showed that if the court considers the elections compliant then they will have to rely on the alternative 10,000 agent copies of results from LP. INEC brought no alternative hard copies mind you. They couldn't have because they don't have them. So your claim that LP didn't bring evidence is a mad man's dream. Ground 2:It is settled law that one will not only prove irregularities but do so substantially and show how it affected the overall results.Lp lawyers claim Inec promised electronic transmission but has failed to prove that inec failed to transmit electronically.the only called one witness to that effect who claimed that elections was free and fair.Atiku called five adhoc staffs who also testified to that effect.this unfortunately only affects the polling units they worked as evidence in election cases are restricted to each units.inec can easily call 10 staffs who will testify that results were sucessfully transmitted.in any case,the electoral act plus a fhc judgment gives inec the leeway to transmit anyhow.The court of appeal recently ruled that by virtue of section 60 of the EA,inec can choose,vary,change it's manner of transmission at any point.In other words,both manual and electronic transmission are allowed.those witnesses that said they couldn't transmit didn't blame inec but the bvas and eventually sent the results to the collation units.the purpose of electronic transmission by virtue of section 60-65 of the EA2022 is to aid collation.no collation officer was called to testify.again,the law says the collation officer will compare the hardcopy with the transmitted results.the transmitted result that was uploaded is still on the bvas in image form so the collation staff can easily look at the bvas image and form ec8a.The EA clearly specified transmit or transfer.transfer mainly has to do with manual activities while transmit is electronic.further reading of the manual guidelines will expose more on this.Even the respondents SANs didn't bring this foolish argument. What the FHC said was simply that INEC will choose how they will collate results. The EA gave INEC the power to decide how to collate results. The question you should be asking is what method did INEC choose? Your answer is in the INEC guidelines for election. It was the same guidelines that their staff were trained upon. By law any staff that didn't follow the guidelines can be prosecuted and jailed for minimum of 6months. What is in the guideline? Realtime upload of results to IREV and that IREV should be used as secondary data to verify hardcopies in case of disputes. Now that there is disputes IREV failed and you think there is substantial compliance? All parties agreed that the IREV data should not be different from the hardcopy. But evidence show that they are different. Fact is INEC did not follow what they prescribed. The Oyetola and Adeleke case is a clear precedent on this where the SC declared that the hardcopy and IREV are mandatory election matters. What is post election is the Record of Election Results Archive which is clearly different from IREV. Ground three: No arguments has been canvassed on the fct matter so it can be seemed abandoned.but if not,a community reading of section 28,section 42 and 299 of the constitution has placed fct as a state.the body language,orbiter dictum,innuendoes of the court has shown where they will stand.again,the principle of legal ambiguity presupposes that where an ambiguity in law exists,the jurists will choose the most sensible, meaningful option for the lawmakers are not confusionists or intend to create chaos.Again,all the laws quoted by the Lp lawyers support this position.First of all, the FCT does not need any argument. It is the prerogative of the court to interpret the constitution. And a literal interpretation simply shows that FCT is mandatory. There is no going back on this. Even Olanipekun has accepted it. I don't know why you are still being ignorant. Or are you not following the trends? Ground three: section 182 d and e clearly says within a period of 10 years,he has been imprisoned or convicted by any court in nigeria.tinubu forfeiture wasn't a conviction and even if,10 years has elapsed and the judgment wasn't registered in Nigeria.that subsection further states that he must be under imprisonment or a sentence flowing or arising from a conviction and tinubu is not under any conviction.civil cases do not lead to convictions.moreover,he was never charged,arraigned or found guilty of any thing.what happened was that three of his accounts were frozen via an exparte order by us authorities with links to two convicts.he now proved to the court and fbi that money in two accounts were his and the one belonging to the other remaining account wasn't his.so,in a mutual agreement supervised by the court,two accounts were unfrozen and one forfeited as part of a compromise or out of court settlement.The petitioners case is based on Section 134:1(d). That law did not bother itself on whether there is a conviction or not. It only stated that the person should be disqualified if they are ever fined for acts involving dishonesty. Forfeiture is a fine, and narcotics and money laundering are acts of dishonesty injurious to mankind. One thing that all parties agree to including you is that Tinubu is a drug criminal who ran away from US to avoid being jailed. The forfeiture was done as a punishment for his crimes. Ground four; the shettima issue has been buried by the supreme court.they clearly stated that it was a pre election matter and internal to a party and that it can only extend beyond if he was nominated by 2 parties.section 84 of the electoral act clearly makes nomination a pre election matter and only aspirants have locus standi.double nomination is not a constitutional matter and only constitutional matters pertaining to qualifications can be raised at a tribunal.again,the apex court found out that shettima was never guilty of double nomination and lp has no new evidence necessitating a review.Stop deceiving yourself. A matter is pre-election if election have not held. Before election only a party member can challenge. After election it becomes a post election matter where fellow contestants can challenge. Your illusion with locus standi is your undoing. Shettima was nominated as VP on 14th June the same day his name was submitted to INEC. APC submitted his withdrawal from senate race the following day on 15th June. The documents are all there. All these information came from INEC. So no capping. You should be more scared of the APM petition. That one is express disqualification based on invalid nomination. The VP placeholder Masari withdrew on the 24th of May (undisputed by all parties), Shettima was nominated on the 14th of June (undisputed by all parties). That leaves a period of more than 14days that invalidates the presidential ticket of Tinubu. This one is straight knockout. No going back. 6) concerning perjury,the inec form has two questions on nationality.whether one has ever changed nationality? This is a No for tinubu.secondly,whether tinubu has ever voluntarily acquired citizenship elsewhere.this is a no because he never sought for guinean citizenship,he was only conferred and given a diplomatic passport to that effect.Once again you are drunk on your own lies. Tinubu's EC9 form showed that he claimed not to have any other citizenship. He has also not denied having Guinean citizenship. His defence was that citizenship ends when the passports expires. That lame and foolish submission by his lawyer is the worst statement ever made in court by a SAN. As per his school certificates, what he presented to INEC were fake documents download from Pinterest. The school Chicago State University under subpoena sent the original documents which were certified as true copies. Your foolish SAN and you are arguing that no witness from the school came to testify. Are you guys on colos? A organisation that sent their CTC does not need to appear in person when the documents already speak for themselves. This matter will be dismissed with 1 billion naira fine to be paid by the petitioners each to each of the respondents.cooouurrrt.This last one is just the hallmark of the clownishness all agbado people enjoy. If the judiciary fail to disqualify Tinubu, then just know that justice will never be achieved in this country. Never. And no body will ever again approach the courts for Electoral petition. What this mean is that the country will sink into anarchy and violent settlement of election disputes. Tinubu ticks all the boxes for someone who should never be president of Nigeria. Mynd44 Nplfmod Seun Mukina2 Penguin2 Fergie001 Obinoscopy Casualobserver Coolambience Helinues Yarimo Quotasystem Svoboda Oghenaogie Efewestern Aiel123 Afamed Mrvitalis Spy360 Esseite Silvertongue Asobo Donphilopus Generalpula Muykem Alphagan Iamgrey Raumdeuter Ejimatic Zoedew Litigator[/quote] |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by casualobserver: 3:26pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Spy360:Oga stop using English words you clearly do not understand the meaning. You have not debunked anything. debunk verb [ T ] informal UK /ˌdiːˈbʌŋk/ US /ˌdiːˈbʌŋk/ Add to word list to show that something is less important, less good, or less true than it has been made to appear: debunk Add to list Share /ˈdiˌbəŋk/ /diˈbəŋk/ IPA guide Other forms: debunking; debunked; debunks When you debunk something you show it to be false. Many magicians, including Houdini and Penn and Teller, have worked to debunk the idea that magic is anything other than a very clever illusion. To debunk something is to prove it wrong. |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 3:27pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Spy360:I await the debunking but just like someone said here,you know obi has lost but choose to indulge in vain mischief |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 3:27pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
SIONKPO1:Plot how? Did obi prove anything |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 3:30pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Brendaniel:Where did he get the original when tinubu has the original? According to the evidence act 2011,an expired document worthless.additionally,he is not the maker of the document so he is not competent to speak on it |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 3:32pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Penguin2:Did the SS not disappoint you? Did obi lowest vote not come from ebonyi? Did tinubu not beat him in aks and dragged him in crs |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by garfield1(op): 3:33pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Brendaniel:I never said I am a lawyer.even if atiku proves that tinubu was a guinean citizen,he failed to prove that he voluntarily acquired it.in the end,he failed |
| Re: How The Presidential Election Tribunal May Rule: Final Analysis by otokx(m): 3:48pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
What date is the court ruling? |
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The one he came Third... What votes did obi score in North West East and central let alone south west... U guys should tone it down obi LP Lost the third they got and the numbers is quite Fair anyway...