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Bounced in the Spanish national team. No club in Europe is eager to sign him.
7 penalties and your MCM no fit catch one but he say make we dey happy because the other keeper didn't catch one. But when the other keeper caught one against Villareal na manager you dey blame.

AdisaOwala:
Could this mean we have bigger issues at hand and probably prioritized wrongly w.r.t this possession based footie being talked about?

This club will always have bigger issues. We've been buying defenders, midfielders and forwards all these years.
It was time to move on from De Gea.

ChristineC:
Ten Hag spoke in the presser like he has really big roles for Mainoo and would have certainly played him at the start of the season.
I think it's fair to say he rates him above Hannibal.
kinda makes me wonder though, who was he looking to bench in the midfield that started today? Casemiro is still a tad behind in fitness though. I sincerely hope it's non of that Bruno on the wings nonsense.
we still have Amrabat coming. safe to say the competition in midfield look adequate for the season.

I think Mainoo will start with cameo appearances until we start playing twice per week or thrice in 10 days.

This fan base is filled with Trojan horses. Abi how can you be praying that your players fail so that you can gloat? And you call yourself a fan?

My brother, you’re not a fan. You’re a she-goat.

Lana1:
Bounced in the Spanish national team. No club in Europe is eager to sign him.
7 penalties and your MCM no fit catch one but he say make we dey happy because the other keeper didn't catch one. But when the other keeper caught one against Villareal na manager you dey blame.

He didn’t catch any penalty and he even lost his own.

Lana1:
This club will always have bigger issues. We've been buying defenders, midfielders and forwards all these years.
It was time to move on from De Gea.

De Gea's form was abysmal last season, no doubt and I also felt he deserved to be dropped.

However, my main concern was that many peeps here made it seem as if this ball - playing attribute could substitute/cover up for the glaring lapses that limited DDG , majorly :

1. Unreliability as a shot stopper (too many errors)

2. Inability to command his box (this has been ongoing for quite some time)

It might have been just a rough patch that might have resolved with some bench time - nobody knows

It could also be that his was getting past his prime and needed a replacement - time would tell.

Yes, it's still early days but we cannot get a replacement whose supposed "world-class" attribute would ironically become our albatross and an impediment to the team's performance. On a softer note, it's not out of place to expect that Onana should be better than DDG, after all what was needed was an upgrade

On code, I dey ask myself atimes say why Pep, the possession - crazed genius no look Onana's side...after all the Cameroonian na "Black Neuer"

patrickmuf:
Larride, please tow the path of peace. I'm a DDG fan but I won't go gaga if things go south.

No boss. I will criticize Onana for the same thing they usually criticize DDG for and still top it off if he doesn't do things better than DDG.

They can continue to cry every night. Na them sabi. Na DDG dey torment their dreams, my own na to give them nightmare whenever Onana mess up. 😂

Leyqute:
This fan base is filled with Trojan horses. Abi how can you be praying that your players fail so that you can gloat? And you call yourself a fan?

My brother, you’re not a fan. You’re a she-goat.

Stan mentality is a joke to you?
Stans fit kill person for their favs.

The craziest thing for me is, of all players to stan, na De Gea you dey stan. You no fit find better player stan

We win match but na you dey get hard on for person wey dey jobless. Yet he's talking about nightmares

Na you no go fit sleep this night

Lana1:
Stan mentality is a joke to you?
Stans fit kill person for their favs.

The craziest thing for me is, of all players to stan, na De Gea you dey stan. You no fit find better player stan

De Gea that we should have replaced 2 years ago. He doesn’t need other people to make mistakes before he concede goals. He is the mistake gangan.

I don’t know why anyone would stan someone like that.

AdisaOwala:
De Gea's form was abysmal last season, no doubt and I also felt he deserved to be dropped.

However, my main concern was that many peeps here made it seem as if this ball - playing attribute could substitute/cover up for the glaring lapses that limited DDG , majorly :

1. Unreliability as a shot stopper (too many errors)

2. Inability to command his box (this has been ongoing for quite some time)

It might have been just a rough patch that might have resolved with some bench time - nobody knows

It could also be that his was getting past his prime and needed a replacement - time would tell.

Yes, it's still early days but we cannot get a replacement whose supposed "world-class" attribute would ironically become our albatross and an impediment to the team's performance. On a softer note, it's not out of place to expect that Onana should be better than DDG, after all what was needed was an upgrade

On code, I dey ask myself atimes say why Pep, the possession - crazed genius no look Onana's side...after all the Cameroonian na "Black Neuer" - another discussion for another day.

I also criticised De Gea for his shortcomings. Poor command of his box. Reluctance to come out and claim a cross. Poor distribution. Terrible at penalties. The only thing he had going for him which is shot stopping, he was already average at it.
Nobody could say shít about 2017 De gea. The version we've had since the 2018 world cup, I no sabi where dem find am.

I would have preferred we gave Kovar and Henderson a chance this season and go from there next season but ETH seems to have a hard-on for players he has worked with in the past.

Onana offers most of what De Gea lacks so it's a no brainer that he's seen as an upgrade on De Gea. With Onana we will play a higher line than we did last season and not sitback to protect the GK like we were doing. I'm more interested to see how we will fare against teams like City and Arsenal.

I dont see why Pep would want to go for Onana. He already has Ederson that is better and already suited for PL football. Changing goalkeeper wont be his priority anytime soon unless Ederson starts to decline the way De Gea did

Mrviktor:
I was expecting lobs.. But not expecting it so soon


They will target that weakness sha

We have gone from degea that doesn't move past that penaly line..
To onana that wants to play midfield.

De Gea doesn’t need to leave his penalty line before chopping lob.

Oh gtfoh.pic.twitter.com/dHXvx0lmdI https://t.co/cmQPJrebyi

— Nse (@_nseobong) August 5, 2023

AdisaOwala:
Raumdeuter, what's your take on this "goalie-possession-buildup/Sweeper" strategy?

Reason why I am asking you is because it seems Pep/Neuer kinda re-introduced/redefined it and has now become a basis for heated debates and arguments.

Neuer was first a great shot stopper, had presence and commanded his area at a world class level

Without the sweeper keeper ability, he would still be the best keeper in the world at his prime

Pep with his style does not mind above average keepers as long as they are good sweepers and can play. We know Valdes was not a great goalkeeper but he was useful to Pep. Same with Ederson

Leyqute:
De Gea that we should have replaced 2 years ago. He doesn’t need other people to make mistakes before he concede goals. He is the mistake gangan.

I don’t know why anyone would stan someone like that.

They didn't run agenda like this when Ronaldo or Pogba left but they want to die for De Gea. O wrong nau!

raumdeuter:
Neuer was first a great shot stopper, had presence and commanded his area at a world class level

Without the sweeper keeper ability, he would still be the best keeper in the world at his prime

Pep with his style does not mind above average keepers as long as they are good sweepers and can play. We know Valdes was not a great goalkeeper but he was useful to Pep. Same with Ederson

Thanks

Really nice build-up here for the Mount chance — This is generally a goal.

Unreal clip from Onana to Dalot & comfortable control, United play outside the press & transition quickly.

Last season we concede goal/possession here & now generally score.

Those are the margins. pic.twitter.com/3GnhcZAFWq

— Stretford Trends (@StretfordTrends) August 5, 2023

Great buildup. Fantastic pass from Bruno. Mount should've scored.

We can never string together this kind of play if our GK was jittery with the ball at his feet.

Leyqute:

Really nice build-up here for the Mount chance — This is generally a goal.

Unreal clip from Onana to Dalot & comfortable control, United play outside the press & transition quickly.

Last season we concede goal/possession here & now generally score.

Those are the margins. pic.twitter.com/3GnhcZAFWq

— Stretford Trends (@StretfordTrends) August 5, 2023

Great buildup. Fantastic pass from Bruno. Mount should've scored.

We can never string together this kind of play if our GK was jittery with the ball at his feet.

Finishing remains our biggest problem. Garnacho was just giving me joy with those runs and square plays. That's what I want to see from our wingers. Not constantly cutting in and trying to bend it in.

Leyqute:
De Gea that we should have replaced 2 years ago. He doesn’t need other people to make mistakes before he concede goals. He is the mistake gangan.

I don’t know why anyone would stan someone like that.

Some of these De Gea fans are moving like they got too much sugar in their Thé. Batty boi behavior i can’t lie

Lana1:
Finishing remains our biggest problem. Garnacho was just giving me joy with those runs and square plays. That's what I want to see from our wingers. Not constantly cutting in and trying to bend it in.

Garnacho has better decision making in the final 3rd than Rashford sef, not to talk about Antony.

He knows when to go for goal and when to pass the ball. Could've gotten two assists had Mount not fumbled that ball.

We'll probably see him play left wing more this season while Rashford is pushed to the striking position.

Leyqute:
This fan base is filled with Trojan horses. Abi how can you be praying that your players fail so that you can gloat? And you call yourself a fan?

My brother, you’re not a fan. You’re a she-goat.

De Gea was not your player last season abi?

No be only Trojan horse na ransomware

Leyqute:
This fan base is filled with Trojan horses. Abi how can you be praying that your players fail so that you can gloat? And you call yourself a fan?

My brother, you’re not a fan. You’re a she-goat.

odizeey:
De Gea was not your player last season abi?

No be only Trojan horse na ransomware

And people were praying for him to fail so that they can gloat? Is your MCM not the one conceding goals via his armpit?

If a Trojan horse, ransomware and anti virus were staring you in the face, walai you won't know the difference.

ETH might soon have a good selection dilemma on his hands if Hojlund hits the ground running and Garnacho also continues to develop as expected. Assuming Antony keeps his right wing spot, one out of Rashy, Garnacho, Hojlund will be on the bench.
The situation might be further complicated by Amad and Greenwood (if he is miraculously let back into the team).

People were praying for ETH to fail after he used igbale to pursue Ragnick the tikTOK master, people also prayed for ETH to fail when he used the same igbale to pursue the Greastest Arab league player of all time, I don't see anything new or different here who fùck up na hin we go drag

This season go long sha.

afrodoc2:
ETH might soon have a good selection dilemma on his hands if Hojlund hits the ground running and Garnacho also continues to develop as expected. Assuming Antony keeps his right wing spot, one out of Rashy, Garnacho, Hojlund will be on the bench.
The situation might be further complicated by Amad and Greenwood (if he is miraculously let back into the team).

I like it. This is the kind of squad we need in order to compete with City.

Our starting front 3 will probably be Rashford, Hojlund and Antony. Amad, Greenwood (if he’s allowed back) and Garnacho can be their deputies.

If you add Sancho to the mix, that gives us 3 options at LW, 4 options at CF and another 4 options at RW. We won’t suffer very much from injuries or fixture congestions.

We just need to add one more midfield option and ETH must know how to manage his squad (not first 11) and keep them together.

afrodoc2:
ETH might soon have a good selection dilemma on his hands if Hojlund hits the ground running and Garnacho also continues to develop as expected. Assuming Antony keeps his right wing spot, one out of Rashy, Garnacho, Hojlund will be on the bench.
The situation might be further complicated by Amad and Greenwood (if he is miraculously let back into the team).

With this players, we dont need possesion ball. Just some mad attacking football and we are good.

We can even play a Diamond midfield in tight games. Rashford and Hojlund as CF and Bruno, Mount, Case, and another midfielder in the middle.

I suspect Rashford will play CF for the first month until Hojlund is fit and available. You never know, 49 might lay a claim to that starting XI and force Antony (or even Rashford- hard to take, but quite possible) out of the front 3. He has that mentality and common sense we need in attack.

Eph12 this is one of the Yoots you’ve been clamoring for ETH to play.

dreamxhaser:
With this players, we dont need possesion ball. Just some mad attacking football and we are good.

Madrid don’t play possession football. They are known for quick, direct attacks. And they’re successful.

Apart from United, Madrid are the only team to have more than 100 direct attacks last season. They also scored more goals from those attacks than us.

dreamxhaser:
With this players, we dont need possesion ball. Just some mad attacking football and we are good.

You make a good point. I think we will dominate possession more than we used to under previous managers. We will improve in possession enough to be more competitive but going by the players we have and the players we bought it just won't be in the tiki-taka model. Our vertical transitions will be quicker in order to utilize the pace we have upfront.