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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:03pm On Aug 07, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Generally the teams tend to have poor social media handling.

However that doesn't mean that training is not going on.

With what I have seen from the Super Eagles and Super Falcons training does not go on... especially with what they share on social media..

Both teams have been playing the same style of play for the last 25 years and no improvement..
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:03pm On Aug 07, 2023
That was definitely a penalty in the first half of extra time. I just put it on my website, it was clear as day. Once again we were robbed by FIFA.

https://naijabiasfootball.com/

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:05pm On Aug 07, 2023
codemaniacs:


Its the same style of play that affected the Super Eagles both at the Nations Cup and against Ghana..

That's why I advocate for players like Nwakali in the midfield.

Demehin was the major culprit and the players distance from each other was another factor. the player Demehin was supposed to pass to kept running forward anytime Demehin got the ball and instead of Demehin to pass the ball to the other Center Back she kept playing long balls..

Both S.E and S.F need younger ball playing players like Sebastian, Ajakaye, Nathan Tella et.c..

Sadly, it all still ricochet back to Glass House. If they have a style, they'll employ coaches based on that as well. Just like how Sarina changed a lot of things with England, for example. I don't have a problem with Demehin that noticeable. The question is all those balls she gave, how were they utilized by Rash/Oshoala/etc.

Another crux is Nnadozie needs to learn goalkicks. See the reach of Earps and precise.



Its the end, I don't want it to look like we focusing on the -ve really. We've had some +ves. But style of play and with personnel that can be moulded to fit possession is welcome.


Personally if Onyenezide was in this lineup, she'll be the most fouled. Time for her to get her chance so that by next WWC, we have a better approach to attack. Her or anyone else found to be worth it.

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:05pm On Aug 07, 2023
do4luv14:
Now I See why Amaju went for Randy after Dennebyer left He wants to change our style of play, and gives direction, which Randy had effortlessly been doing,

For the first time in a very loooonnng time, SF let in just 2 goals in a World Cup proper, asin just 2goals

Nff renew his contract asap, while looking for a spon9to take care of his wages

NFF would use the money to fund the Super Eagles, fly private jets, pay for presidential suites for NFF offficials than use it to improve the Super Falcons players and coaches welfare, style of play and training facilities.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Nobody: 2:09pm On Aug 07, 2023
M7even:


Bro nothing u said there did I not understand. And u are limited by your own knowledge.
We played Morocco at WAFCON we were two players down and Morroco did everything and couldn't break us down even after extra time. We still had the threat when we attacked. Why did u think it played out that way, we are always ahead of Morocco in female football and we were not gonna give in to them even though they were the host nation and seemed to enjoy some officiating decision. In fact that tournament was our worst outing we probably wouldn't have qualified for the world cup for the fact that we finished 4th. Here is a similar situation with England whose football level is ahead of ours and you talk of breaking them down because they are a man down, however bad England played today and we couldn't get the kill punch we needed doesn't take away anything from our girls or those of us who support them for trying. It takes consistency. Today they were lucky we had them on the edge let's consolidate on what we have and work on it, it was good game play from. That's what we are saying. We want to be at the top of the food chain, and that comes with continuous grinding and hard work. I'm sure if we play England tomorrow again we can now beat them. Today before the game was played I never expected that we will have them on the edge. Based on their reputation in comparison with ours. All we have to do is work on what we have today to fear no team again. I hope we keep closing the gap at least and not expecting us to win a game we weren't
favored to win. That's my own point.
you are very correct.. this team is young and super talented..we just need one or two inputs here and there and watch this team beat any team in the world..
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:09pm On Aug 07, 2023
M7even:


Funny how we didn't end up missing Ngozi Okobi in the world cup. But how I wished we had a player like Deborah Abiodun in the extra time of this game things might have been different. Because she can go forward and create as well as mark, I guess that was why we had ordega.
Toni has no exact deputy on this team. Echegini can't play her role. That's one aspect that pained me alot. Immediately Toni got fatigued, we had to start long balls approach direct. Plus Ayinde was yanked off when Christy was actually the one more tired.

At least this proves that with the right manager, nobody is indispensable. I expect a lot of the points we seeing here to be opposite of what nff will do las las. The money issue is there too.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by bisqit: 2:09pm On Aug 07, 2023
lovewins:


Well said.

I understand people's frustration. A loss can be very painful especially when you played your best game.

But we have to count our blessings:

1. This is our best World cup performance so far

2. We played 4 games and did lose any in regular time. For context, we played World no 3 who are European Champions, World number 7 who are Olympic Champions, World Number 10 who are host nation and World no 20 and didn't lose any

3. We have the worst defensive record at the world cup. This time however, we conceded just 2 goals in 4 games. Read that again, we conceded just 2 goals in 4 games.

4. More importantly, we have a team to build on. About half of the team is 25 and less. We only need a few additions and subtractions and we'll have a better team

5. I can't believe I'm saying this.but I have to

"NFF, Renew Randy's Contract".

Give him the support needed and watch this team fly.
1999 is our best outing. Stop blabbing fables here. If you were around in 99, you won't be running your mouth helterskelter. That team performed better than this current side. This present crop of falcons are just there based on current form minus the three goals we scored against Australia
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by elyte89: 2:10pm On Aug 07, 2023
codemaniacs:


With what I have seen from the Super Eagles and Super Falcons training does not go on... especially with what they share on social media..

Both teams have been playing the same style of play for the last 25 years and no improvement..


We might need the German blueprint going forward (but eguavoen sef no do him job as technical director)
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:10pm On Aug 07, 2023
BascoVanVeli:
That was definitely a penalty in the first half of extra time. I just put it on my website, it was clear as day. Once again we were robbed by FIFA.

https://naijabiasfootball.com/

Would they have scored the penalty?

What Super Falcons needs is learning how to pass the ball effectively and effortlessly and play ultra possession football. they also need another goal scoring forward apart from Asisat and better FullBacks and midfielders so that the wingers or a midfielder can be in box when the fullbacks have the ball and play as wide forwards.

not having players in the box and outside the box made us lose chances.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:12pm On Aug 07, 2023
JohnBullMySon:


Where is the ball playing

See the gulf between shots and shots on target.

SA sabi abeg. Inside the box they sabi. But we have better personnel that can play their style even better. 20-2 compared to 13-7.... Haba.


Besides Netherlands no be yeye team to start with.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:15pm On Aug 07, 2023
BronzeTiger:

I felt the saddest for her and plumptre. The england ladies knew they were lucky after being second best almost throughout that's why they went to her. All her efforts put to a waste. Hopefully she gets a better club this simmer.
Paris FC better be ready to cash out. She's one of the best in the world. I dunno if England can be a destination or Spain. But she must japa. She's 22 and needs UWCL time now. All the best to her. England and Sarina knew they were lucky. We need such luck next time.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:18pm On Aug 07, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Give Randy his flowers abeg. Very easy to see mistakes after we have lost grin grin. I am proud of the team and the coaching crew.
My complaints are just about what to shoo in going forward. This team has made us very proud by far, especially with all the brouhaha prior to the Traveling to Australia.

Nff are saying 29matches while commentators is saying we barely had time to prepare for the tournament proper. The fact that nff still missed this simple logic tells alot about the current guys at the helm.


Anyways, let's get the Olympics up and doing. We should make a podium finish there.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:21pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:


Sadly, it all still ricochet back to Glass House. If they have a style, they'll employ coaches based on that as well. Just like how Sarina changed a lot of things with England, for example. I don't have a problem with Demehin that noticeable. The question is all those balls she gave, how were there utilized by Rash/Oshoala/etc.

Another crux is Nnadozie needs to learn goalkicks. See the reach of Earps and precise.



Its the end, I don't want it to look like we focusing on the -ve really. We've had some +ves. But style of play and with personnel that can be moulded to fit possession is welcome.


Personally if Onyenezide was in this lineup, she'll be the most fouled. Time for her to get her chance so that by next WWC, we have a better approach to attack. Her or anyone else found to be worth it.

You're right..

the only reason I have a problem with Demehin playing long balls is because the midfielders and strikers don't know how to pass the ball among themselves and anytime Demehin played the long ball forward to Oshoala or Ajibade could not keep possession, sometimes they will run ahead of ball and the defender will clear or they will head the ball and the midfielders won't be able to control it or they will head the ball forward and try to outrun the defender to get the ball.

it would have been better if Demehin passed to Plumptre then Plumptre passes the ball to the winger or midfielder using 1 - 2 passes or runs forward with the ball like she was doing in the 1st half first 20 minutes.

this is where Onumonu is better than Oshoala and the reason why Onumonu should play as a CAM when Oshoala comes because Onumonu knows how to keep ball and link the midfield with the attack.

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:21pm On Aug 07, 2023
codemaniacs:


Onyinizidane needs to be forced into the team.. Demehin was in-experience was too glaring.. so let Onyinizidane's, Ajakaye, Sebastine inexperience come and go quickly.
The logic i was using alll the while, yet many thought i was capping.

If Imuran becomes a zinchenko tomorrow, everyone will know that going to such grand stage has helped her thinking and mentality. Demehin is also inexperienced and despite a good outing, it was glaring. I'll prefer that kind upfront in worst case scenario. 16-20yos wre starting for their countries and they're not that talented. Time waits for no woman.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:27pm On Aug 07, 2023
lovewins:


Well said.

I understand people's frustration. A loss can be very painful especially when you played your best game.

But we have to count our blessings:

1. This is our best World cup performance so far

2. We played 4 games and did lose any in regular time. For context, we played World no 3 who are European Champions, World number 7 who are Olympic Champions, World Number 10 who are host nation and World no 20 and didn't lose any

3. We have the worst defensive record at the world cup. This time however, we conceded just 2 goals in 4 games. Read that again, we conceded just 2 goals in 4 games.

4. More importantly, we have a team to build on. About half of the team is 25 and less. We only need a few additions and subtractions and we'll have a better team

5. I can't believe I'm saying this.but I have to

"NFF, Renew Randy's Contract".

Give him the support needed and watch this team fly.


All, except point 5 are just sure. Especially if Randy doesn't want to continue, knowing now that he's going to be hot cake in women's national team football. The odds are against us!! US Twitter made him trend after our Australia game, they want him for them. Let's see if that becomes official too.


Besides, if we continue, we may not see attacking flair and possession buildup. I don't think i can continue with that. But it's also a long while we played with such energy and confidence. I dunno if there's a better manager out there to best this. Nff also have bad rep in a way. Nobody wants to come repeat such brouhaha.


Let's see if we can pull this through or pick a local coach from ex-ints
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 2:27pm On Aug 07, 2023
bisqit:
1999 is our best outing. Stop blabbing fables here. If you were around in 99, you won't be running your mouth helterskelter. That team performed better than this current side. This present crop of falcons are just there based on current form minus the three goals we scored against Australia

I usually do not engage people with no sense of decorum. Is it so hard to make your point without being insulting? This is a forum and we are allowed to have differing opinions. We argue and counter argue and in the process learn from one another. Don't soil the platform with condescending attitude.

To your point, I stand by my argument that this is the best Performance by the Falcons ever. In 1999, we made the quarter finals but that's because there was no round of 16 so that can't count as better outing. In the same tournament, we lost 2 games and conceded 12 goals and of course women's football was just developing so we played teams we were obviously better than. Please how is that any better than a tournament where we conceded 2 goals and didn't lose a game in regular time playing some of the world's best teams?

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by hatakekakashi: 2:32pm On Aug 07, 2023
JohnBullMySon:


Where is the ball playing
Ball playing as in ability to string passes together, not hoofing the ball at any slight opportunity. I'm not talking about playing possessive football; I'm not a fan of that particular style.

A neutral that has watched both teams play will know who's better in that regard.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 2:33pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:



All, except point 5 are just unsure. Especially if Randy doesn't want to continue, knowing now that he's going to be hot cake in women's national team football. The odds are against us!! US Twitter made him trend after our Australia game, they want him for them. Let's see if that becomes official too.


Besides, if we continue, we may not see attacking flair and possession buildup. I don't think i can continue with that. But it's also a long while we played with such energy and confidence. I dunno if there's a better manager out there to best this. Nff also have bad rep in a way. Nobody wants to come repeat such brouhaha.


Let's see if we can pull this through or pick a local coach from ex-ints

Let me reiterate again

Randy has committed to staying in the Job. He made this known to Osasu during the post match press conference. The ball is now in the NFF's court to do the needful.

However, like you rightly noted, he's upped his CV and I won't be surprised if better teams in Europe or even America comes for him. So it's better we access quickly and move fast.

On the attacking end, I really do not think that's a problem. Who would have believed this team can defend this well. I think he made the most of the time afforded him. Give him the needed support and get him assistants that will support him. With fresh bloods added to the team I think that part of our game will improve.

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by M7even(m): 2:37pm On Aug 07, 2023
ThePresenceWtf:


Everything you just wrote has nothing to do with what I was talking about... I ask yet again, did you actually read to understand or you just feel like replying?

Mtchew
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:38pm On Aug 07, 2023
codemaniacs:


You're right..

the only reason I have a problem with Demehin playing long balls is because the midfielders and strikers don't know how to pass the ball among themselves and anytime Demehin played the long ball forward to Oshoala or Ajibade could not keep possession, sometimes they will run ahead of ball and the defender will clear or they will head the ball and the midfielders won't be able to control it or they will head the ball forward and try to outrun the defender to get the ball.

it would have been better if Demehin passed to Plumptre then Plumptre passes the ball to the winger or midfielder using 1 - 2 passes or runs forward with the ball like she was doing in the 1st half first 20 minutes.

this is where Onumonu is better than Oshoala and the reason why Onumonu should play as a CAM when Oshoala comes because Onumonu knows how to keep ball and link the midfield with the attack.

Despite the red, those English defenders were using 1-2-3 passes to beat our marking. Annoyed me gaan. We started ours on the right but nothing came from them. Ajibade will be on wind and nobody within view to pass to except that useless cross that we can never ever utilize to threaten a dove.


If we get deputies to the 3 players that Randy loves, he won't need to make subs that aren't helpful in the long run. Besides, an attacker supposed to have an instinct that a tackle can win a pk. We had 3 such time when that should have been the next line of action but they all didn't think so.

Super Falcons better find one camp to train for setpieces prior to olympics
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by maidaboi(m): 2:40pm On Aug 07, 2023
Super PROUD of the Girls

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:41pm On Aug 07, 2023
lovewins:


Let me reiterate again

Randy has committed to staying in the Job. He made this known to Osasu during the post match press conference. The ball is now in the NFF's court to do the needful.

However, like you rightly noted, he's upped his CV and I won't be surprised if better teams in Europe or even America comes for him. So it's better we access quickly and move fast.

On the attacking end, I really do not think that's a problem. Who would have believed this team can defend this well. I think he made the most of the time afforded him. Give him the needed support and get him assistants that will support him. With fresh bloods added to the team I think that part of our game will improve.
Let's see what Nff does then.

All efforts at defending must lead to results on attacking. We need to get it right now, especially as majority of them are u25. Next WWC they'll be 28 and 29. Time for the u20 and u17 set to come.


Nobody dey mention Afolabi. She's too small abi? 😀
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:43pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:
The logic i was using alll the while, yet many thought i was capping.

If Imuran becomes a zinchenko tomorrow, everyone will know that going to such grand stage has helped her thinking and mentality. Demehin is also inexperienced and despite a good outing, it was glaring. I'll prefer that kind upfront in worst case scenario. 16-20yos wre starting for their countries and they're not that talented. Time waits for no woman.

You're correct.

When I said Ajakaye, Sebastian, onyiniZidane should be invited NLusers like mostob deltamani kibbs rained abuses on me.

Anyway I hope they have seen what their Ordega, Oparanozie, Glory Ogbonna all played.

See what some said below. grin grin

isan:
Rubbish

mostob:
I'm sorry to say, you analyse football like a toddler at times. I'm here LMAO grin grin

Kibbs:
It is my pleasure to tell you that everything you typed from top to bottom absolutely makes so sense and reeks of sentiments without any sensible logic whatsoever. You’ll be fine.

Danielnino00:


Don't belittle Nnadozie like that...Those of us that watched her at the u-20 world cup in 2018 prior to the women world cup the following year can attest to how good she was .. she and Ajibade were exceptional out of that poorly coached team lead by Danjuma... She rightly earned her spot in the world cup squad...
Flourish and Ajakiaye are talented,but we have enough players in their position currently so they will have to wait their time, plus,let's be honest, they are still raw... There's plenty of time on their side...
Deltamani:


So where does Onumonu and Oparanozie play??


mostob:
I should be ashamed? SMH
I just finished reading your gaffe at the other thread only to come here and meet another one.

The question I asked is who are these U20s replacing?
Do you even know the meaning and importance of exposure?
We're talking coaching here, you are promoting U20 agenda. A coach that can not properly manage professional and experienced players, how will he manage the upcoming ones?
The fact that it works for Colombia doesn't mean it will work for us oga. Try dey think before you write (type).
Man said I should be ashamed grin

mostob:
Who should they replace please? Because Colombia fielded their U20 players, we should do same too? Name the U20 players that should make the team and those that should make way for them in the current squad.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 2:44pm On Aug 07, 2023
codemaniacs:


You're correct.

When I said Ajakaye, Sebastian, onyiniZidane should be invited NLusers like mostob deltamani kibbs rained abuses on me.

Anyway I hope they have seen what their Ordega, Oparanozie, Glory Ogbonna all played.

See what some said below. grin grin















Omo. You pack receipt o👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😃

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:47pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:


Despite the red, those English defenders were using 1-2-3 passes to beat our marking. Annoyed me gaan. We started ours on the right but nothing came from them. Ajibade will be on wind and nobody within view to pass to except that useless cross that we can never ever utilize to threaten a dove.


If we get deputies to the 3 players that Randy loves, he won't need to make subs that aren't helpful in the long run. Besides, an attacker supposed to have an instinct that a tackle can win a pk. We had 3 such time when that should have been the next line of action but they all didn't think so.

Super Falcons better find one camp to train for setpieces prior to olympics

You're right.

Our players were too static. SF players will pass the ball and stand in the same position instead of running to a new position while the En:glish players will pass and run forward to another position with their other players also running forward and creating new passing channels for them to pass to.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by codemaniacs: 2:52pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:



Omo. You pack receipt o👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😃

grin grin grin

It was too much o grin grin grin

I wanted to call them out when Ordega and Oparanozie came in during the match and I didn't see or notice the impact of their presence on the field but I just decided to keep quiet and was just shaking my head anytime Ordega was spoiling our possession.

I didn't even notice Oparanozie was on the field.

At a point it was as if Super Falcons were playing with 9 players.
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Deltamani: 3:02pm On Aug 07, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Give Randy his flowers abeg. Very easy to see mistakes after we have lost grin grin. I am proud of the team and the coaching crew.


Congratulations to England for advancing to the quarters. In my opinion Sarina Couldn’t really do much as the SuperFalcons made them look very beatable.. In addition, England suffered from the physical supremacy of the Nigerians who never seemed to tire. Nigeria showed that they can measure themselves against the big teams not only physically, but also tactically thanks to Randy Waldrums... and they should have believed more given the numerical superiority due to Lauren James' sending off. Stupid mistake of frustration, Ayinde rendered her useless and Confused..
Lauren James must mature and learn to manage his anger because she exposed the English side into a serious risk as she should miss at least 2 games..
Kudos to SuperFalcons of Nigeria for a brave fight and congratulations to England…

At least we have shown the World how to handle the English side… My Support now goes to Japan 🇯🇵

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AndSunGorilla: 3:03pm On Aug 07, 2023
BascoVanVeli:
That was definitely a penalty in the first half of extra time. I just put it on my website, it was clear as day. Once again we were robbed by FIFA.

https://naijabiasfootball.com/
I agree with you on this call. That was a barge!!! PK was called for England for much less before VAR overturned it, at least the same should have applied to us, the PK should have been called and then reviewed by VAR at the very least.

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Deltamani: 3:14pm On Aug 07, 2023
The Gaffer Has Spoken... The NFF Over To You🇳🇬🦅

“I am proud of my team. I want to stay with this team and continue working towards the Olympics. But that is not a matter for me to decide,” Coach Randy said.

Meanwhile, Nigerians are hoping the American gets a contract extension so he can be at the Olympics 🏋️

That notwithstanding, the Nigeria Football Federation NFF, has the final say to his ambitions🫂

All the best Coach🌹

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by JohnBullMySon: 3:16pm On Aug 07, 2023
hatakekakashi:

Ball playing as in ability to string passes together, not hoofing the ball at any slight opportunity. I'm not talking about playing possessive football; I'm not a fan of that particular style.

A neutral that has watched both teams play will know who's better in that regard.

I'm as neutral as anything bruh. First of all SA did not play possessive football. I watched South Africa's games. There's ABSOLUTELY nothing they did better than us.

Find any stats you can find to disprove my point. I'm very sure of what I'm saying.

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Nobody: 3:16pm On Aug 07, 2023
Deltamani:
The Gaffer Has Spoken... The NFF Over To You🇳🇬🦅

“I am proud of my team. I want to stay with this team and continue working towards the Olympics. But that is not a matter for me to decide,” Coach Randy said.

Meanwhile, Nigerians are hoping the American gets a contract extension so he can be at the Olympics 🏋️

That notwithstanding, the Nigeria Football Federation NFF, has the final say to his ambitions🫂

All the best Coach🌹
He should remain and sort for Sharp striker for ajibade and co

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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by JohnBullMySon: 3:20pm On Aug 07, 2023
daveP:


See the gulf between shots and shots on target.

SA sabi abeg. Inside the box they sabi. But we have better personnel that can play their style even better. 20-2 compared to 13-7.... Haba.


Besides Netherlands no be yeye team to start with.
England is not Netherlands mate. If SA plays England, their total possession wouldn't pass 30.

There's a reason we had 20 shots in total. Count in the two bar strikes and blocked shots/header in the 18 you'll have a better picture.

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