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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:06pm On Aug 09, 2023
olabode89:
Omo... links to Pavard and J-C Todibo. Pavard might be the better option as he can also play effectively as a RB.
Pavard is 27 yrs and more experienced but Tobido is younger at 23 yrs and has more potential...Tobido is very good at progressing with the ball from deep though while Pavard can be used as a RB without a drop in the quality of his game.

Any of them will do.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:16pm On Aug 09, 2023
DeadPresidents:
God abeg no

McTominay is a terrible CB for Erik ten Hag’s system. Poor positioning, lots of pashun but actually doesn’t mark well.

If he stays, he’ll be deployed further forward, not deeper effectively to do what Mount currently does.
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:17pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
Pavard is 27 yrs and more experienced but Tobido is younger at 23 yrs and has more potential...Tobido is very good at progressing with the ball from deep though while Pavard can be used as a RB without a drop in the quality of his game.

Any of them will do.
I agree with your point but RB is well covered, hence I hope we go for Tobido.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:27pm On Aug 09, 2023
Not keen on Pavard. I know nothing about Todibo.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 2:57pm On Aug 09, 2023
Oasis007:
I agree with your point but RB is well covered, hence I hope we go for Tobido.
That RB is not well covered o.

Na screp
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:11pm On Aug 09, 2023
Pavard is hardly ever injured and gives you a 7/10 performance in almost every other game.

If he joins, we can as well cash in on Dalot or AWB and look to the youth team for a potential 3rd choice RB...

I understand he is not one whose game and personality attract lots of attention but as a footballer, he is very solid...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:13pm On Aug 09, 2023
I wouldn't even mind if we signed Pavard and Tobido and cashed in on Dalot or AWB assuming we do not have a promising RB coming through the academy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 3:47pm On Aug 09, 2023
🚨🚨🌕| NEW: Benjamin Pavard is in concrete talks to join #mufc. All parties are working on a verbal agreement. [@Plettigoal]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nelxxy(m): 3:50pm On Aug 09, 2023
pavard
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:52pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
Pavard is hardly ever injured and gives you a 7/10 performance in almost every other game.

If he joins, we can as well cash in on Dalot or AWB and look to the youth team for a potential 3rd choice RB...

I understand he is not one whose game and personality attract lots of attention but as a footballer, he is very solid...
Are we signing him as a RB or a CB?

Dayo might be able to give more info about him but from what I have read he wants to play CB while Bayern feel he is better at RB probably because he can be prone to mistakes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 3:52pm On Aug 09, 2023
have you forgotten that Bayern only willingly sells expired products?
we could have gone for Kim Min Jae and forgotten all these balabu
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 3:57pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
Pavard is hardly ever injured and gives you a 7/10 performance in almost every other game.

If he joins, we can as well cash in on Dalot or AWB and look to the youth team for a potential 3rd choice RB...

I understand he is not one whose game and personality attract lots of attention but as a footballer, he is very solid...
Bayern are not stupid. They're selling Pavard for a reason.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:03pm On Aug 09, 2023
MRTA7:
Bayern are not stupid. They're selling Pavard for a reason.
We were meant to sign KMJ as CB but we slept on the wheel and Bayern signed him. Now we want to sign the player Bayern felt was not good enough to play CB to come to our club and play CB.

I think we should go for Todibo. From the extensively detailed 5 min YouTube clip I watched he has potential. 😄
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:24pm On Aug 09, 2023
MRTA7:
Bayern are not stupid. They're selling Pavard for a reason.
I guess Inter sold Onana for a reason and Atalanta sold Hojlund for a reason too...

Pavard offers us versatility and ye comes with experience and at a good age. We have seen top teams sell good players before who went on to achieve great things for whatever reason.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:29pm On Aug 09, 2023
afrodoc2:
Are we signing him as a RB or a CB?

Dayo might be able to give more info about him but from what I have read he wants to play CB while Bayern feel he is better at RB probably because he can be prone to mistakes.
Raumdeuter, your candid opinion, please.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:29pm On Aug 09, 2023
afrodoc2:
We were meant to sign KMJ as CB but we slept on the wheel and Bayern signed him. Now we want to sign the player Bayern felt was not good enough to play CB to come to our club and play CB.

I think we should go for Todibo. From the extensively detailed 5 min YouTube clip I watched he has potential. 😄
KMJ plays LCB not RCB. Pavard plays RCB.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 4:30pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
I guess Inter sold Onana for a reason and Atalanta sold Hojlund for a reason too...

Pavard offers us versatility and ye comes with experience and at a good age. We have seen top teams sell good players before who went on to achieve great things for whatever reason.
Pavard has been struggling to be CB in Bayern.
he is no CB in France as well. he will not displace Varane in any circumstance. besides, he's not that fast. good player but easily a misfit for what we want to achieve.

they should sign Todibo and move on. his style is similar to Bailly and there's much room for improvement there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:39pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
KMJ plays LCB not RCB. Pavard plays RCB.
That is not very important in this discussion. They are both right footed. Maguire too played LCB all those years until Rangnick moved him to RCB and ETH kept him at RCB. It is not that we were desperate for a RCB since we already have Lindelof who played there for several years and we could have bought KMJ to play LCB for us if that was necessary.

My point is that Bayern for several years insisted that Pavard was not good enough to play CB for them, bought the CB we initially wanted and now want to sell the guy they rejected to us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Aug 09, 2023
afrodoc2:
That is not very important in this discussion. They are both right footed. Maguire too played LCB all those years until Rangnick moved him to RCB and ETH kept him at RCB. It is not that we were desperate for a RCB since we already have Lindelof who played there for several years and we could have bought KMJ to play LCB for us if that was necessary.

My point is that Bayern for several years insisted that Pavard was not good enough to play CB for them, bought the CB we initially wanted and now want to sell the guy they rejected to us.
Pavard is a 6 to 7/10 defender both at RB and at CB. As a Full back he is more defensive than offensive so when we play with Davies who is wildly attacking we need a defensive RB to sort of balance things

The problem is he thinks he is better at CB and almost every coach he played with did not agree except in Stuttgart where he was RCB in a 3 man defence

In summary Pavard is not elite at either RB nor CB. He is above average at both. His best role will be as a RCB in a 3 man defence. He can be very useful depth across defence line because he can cover everywhere, I have seen him play LB sef before

Bayern will want him to stay but he wants assurance that he will play CB and no one consider him a good enough CB, He will be behind Minjae, Deligt, Upamecano in CB considerations

Its not the first time players want a different role and coaches think different.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:56pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
I guess Inter sold Onana for a reason and Atalanta sold Hojlund for a reason too...

Pavard offers us versatility and ye comes with experience and at a good age. We have seen top teams sell good players before who went on to achieve great things for whatever reason.
Your comparison is completely off and you know it. Let's not proceed with bad faith discussions.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:04pm On Aug 09, 2023
raumdeuter:
Pavard is a 6 to 7/10 defender both at RB and at CB. As a Full back he is more defensive than offensive so when we play with Davies who is wildly attacking we need a defensive RB to sort of balance things

The problem is he thinks he is better at CB and almost every coach he played with did not agree except in Stuttgart where he was RCB in a 3 man defence

In summary Pavard is not elite at either RB nor CB. He is above average at both. His best role will be as a RCB in a 3 man defence. He can be very useful depth across defence line because he can cover everywhere, I have seen him play LB sef before

Bayern will want him to stay but he wants assurance that he will play CB and no one consider him a good enough CB, He will be behind Minjae, Deligt, Upamecano in CB considerations

Its not the first time players want a different role and coaches think different.
I agree 100% with the part in bold. He is a 3-5-2 RCB. Not elite offensively enough as a RB and not elite enough defensively as a CB in a 4 man defence.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:06pm On Aug 09, 2023
patrickmuf:
I guess Inter sold Onana for a reason and Atalanta sold Hojlund for a reason too...

Pavard offers us versatility and ye comes with experience and at a good age. We have seen top teams sell good players before who went on to achieve great things for whatever reason.
Inter and Atalanta don't have a track record of squeezing their players of all the juice they have before they sell them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 5:08pm On Aug 09, 2023
I hope we use this time to sort out that midfield too instead of waiting for outgoings first.. It's very much likely that City will get Paqueta so new McTom bid might still come in and looks like Fred or DVB might leave too..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:13pm On Aug 09, 2023
raumdeuter:
Bayern will want him to stay but he wants assurance that he will play CB and no one consider him a good enough CB, He will be behind Minjae, Deligt, Upamecano in CB considerations
He's behind Upper-iweka too?

He shouldnt be in the mix for Utd CB transfers then.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Aug 09, 2023
Leyqute:
He's behind Upper-iweka too?

He shouldnt be in the mix for Utd CB transfers then.
Both at Bayern and in the French team. Whether its Naggelsman, Tuchel or Deschamps

He can be useful for depth, He will be better than using McTom AWB or Shaw as an emergency CB

Look at your CB situation you have Varane(injury) Martinez, Lindelof. You are a mosquito bite from having to play Shaw in CB again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:25pm On Aug 09, 2023
raumdeuter:
Both at Bayern and in the French team. Whether its Naggelsman, Tuchel or Deschamps

He can be useful for depth, He will be better than using McTom AWB or Shaw as an emergency CB

Look at your CB situation you have Varane(injury) Martinez, Lindelof. You are a mosquito bite from having to play Shaw in CB again
Honestly i don't think he would be better than Shaw at CB. The only problem with playing Shaw at CB is that it weakens us at LB.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Unlimited22: 5:50pm On Aug 09, 2023
raumdeuter:
Both at Bayern and in the French team. Whether its Naggelsman, Tuchel or Deschamps

He can be useful for depth, He will be better than using McTom AWB or Shaw as an emergency CB

Look at your CB situation you have Varane(injury) Martinez, Lindelof. You are a mosquito bite from having to play Shaw in CB again
Upamecano just be like Kimpembe in one aspect


Their mistakes are usually very terrible and it makes people forget that they are, or can be, capable defenders.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 5:53pm On Aug 09, 2023
raumdeuter:
Both at Bayern and in the French team. Whether its Naggelsman, Tuchel or Deschamps

He can be useful for depth, He will be better than using McTom AWB or Shaw as an emergency CB

Look at your CB situation you have Varane(injury) Martinez, Lindelof. You are a mosquito bite from having to play Shaw in CB again
Wetyn concern united fans and squad depth?🤣
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:54pm On Aug 09, 2023
Unlimited22:
Upamecano just be like Kimpembe in one aspect
Their mistakes are usually very terrible and it makes people forget that they are, or can be, capable defenders.
Yes Upamecano can be competent at one minute and next minute be a total clown which makes them unreliable especially for a team that has goals to win big things and every margin matters

Who cares about all the good thing he did vs Man City when he ruined everything with the mental shutdown
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 5:57pm On Aug 09, 2023
For me, na that central midfield dey important.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 6:15pm On Aug 09, 2023
MRTA7:
Bayern are not stupid. They're selling Pavard for a reason.
Everybody sell their players for a reason.. it doesn't mean dey r nt good. Besides age Pavard is nt bad.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 8:33pm On Aug 09, 2023
odizeey:
For me, na that central midfield dey important.
I swear!!! Eriksen, Casemiro, mount are not cm.
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