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bigtt76:
Exactly. Their faces and full name splashed on the news

The school has to stand their ground so as to protect their licence because a lot of international students coming to the UK used untouchable loan to get the visa. They came here with little or no money hoping to work to pay the remaining tuition fees.

They have done the university a massive favour by going to ITV, only those who are financially ready will be considering that university.

My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Can't give much advice here, but don't forget that if you go into PSW then you'll be looking at the 10yr route. Even if you switch into the 5yr track your total time before ILR would almost be at about 8.5-9yrs.
Also, all the company B has done right now is given a promise, which I doubt they'd be legally bound to, so they can turn around at the end of PSW to tell you they're unable to continue with you further.
Lastly, with stuff like mortgages, it's marginally advantageous that you're on a long-term visa like the 5yr SWV rather than that 2yr PSW, so if you're looking to get on the ladder if you haven't already then you should consider that as well. I hope you make the best decision. All the best

Very true! I want to believe they delayed payments deliberately to see if they could switch or they lied to school about their fees cleared but delayed by the banks. I know a couple of students who lied to the finance team about the funds cleared but pending whereas they didn't have it. Some others would just fill the form A online and print without submitting the present same as proof to school. Sad how our people try to play smart at times.

justwise:
The school has to stand their ground so as to protect their licence because a lot of international students coming to the UK used untouchable loan to get the visa. They came here with little or no money hoping to work to pay the remaining tuition fees.

They gave done the university a massive favour by going to ITV, only those who are financially ready will be considering that university.

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

If you later decide to go with company B at all, make sure the cost and figures are drafted in your offer letter. Congratulations. Nothing should be taken with word of mouth

A bird in hand is worth 10 in the bush. Go with company A, get your sponsorship and hopefully get your ILR the look towards company B for the name.

BTW how did you come about the new visa rates? Is that for you alone or including your family?

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

justwise:
The school has to stand their ground so as to protect their licence because a lot of international students coming to the UK used untouchable loan to get the visa. They came here with little or no money hoping to work to pay the remaining tuition fees.

They have done the university a massive favour by going to ITV, only those who are financially ready will be considering that university.

Some of those that are coming this september are still here and on the students thread watching and reading in ghost mode, thinking "nothing dey happen".

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

Company B. Sponsorship isn’t everything. Company A not covering your Visa fee doesn’t sit right with me. If they had offered that they pay for it and deduct out of your salary, that would have been better. Like someone said, ensure company B puts it in writing. Also, you don’t have to stay with company B for the whole of 2 years, being with a top firm improves your prospects for other companies. Just ensure that you get chartered as soon as you can. Best of luck.

bigtt76:
Very true! I want to believe they delayed payments deliberately to see if they could switch or they lied to school about their fees cleared but delayed by the banks. I know a couple of students who lied to the finance team about the funds cleared but pending whereas they didn't have it. Some others would just fill the form A online and print without submitting the present same as proof to school. Sad how our people try to play smart at times.

You are making unnecessary and unfair assumptions. People have gone through hell and back because of Form A and I have close friends that were impacted and almost fell into depression. Some even applied for Form A at a lower rate and they didn’t get approved on time before the free float of Naira which caused bank rates to be the same as the black market rate. They were forced to buy from LemFi causing them to be short of their school fees. Again, make una try dey calm down.

It's for my spouse and I.

Visa fee for skilled worker is 1,423/ person. Multiplied by 2.
IHS- 624/year. Multiplied by 2 as well.

New rate per what our prime minister said last month will put IHS to 1,035/year. multiply that by 5 years for 2 persons.

bigtt76:
A bird in hand is worth 10 in the bush. Go with company A, get your sponsorship and hopefully get your ILR the look towards company B for the name.

BTW how did you come about the new visa rates? Is that for you alone or including your family?

Regex:
I am very much ready to die on the hill that social media is the fall of black man. Nigerians tend to the most stupid, poorest and ill-hearted of the black race. Just imagine what these guys doing now. Our selfishness is unmatched. So will the interview with ITV solve the problem at hand or what? This will make the UK further probe their pof and would warrant them to tighten up their immigration rules. Abi the one them do UK lock up via dependant never teach them anything. The first man who bred stupidity in the form of Nigeria is one I will forever curse.

You are right about black man being the fall is some black men, America is a case study on that one. But UK will never stop student route as they need the money more than we need them.

I understand, but for career growth, working with company B is far more rewarding. And even if they refuse to sponsor after, i would be chartered by then and it wouldn't be difficult to get a job.

These are the only 2 companies i have applied and interviewed for. Or maybe i should put in more applications. However, time is no longer on my side as my visa expires November.

bigtt76:
A bird in hand is worth 10 in the bush. Go with company A, get your sponsorship and hopefully get your ILR the look towards company B for the name.

BTW how did you come about the new visa rates? Is that for you alone or including your family?

Thank you gmacnoms.

gmacnoms:
If you later decide to go with company B at all, make sure the cost and figures are drafted in your offer letter. Congratulations. Nothing should be taken with word of mouth

Thank you Kwakudtraveller.

I get the fact that it would take a bit longer to ILR, however, I do not have to stay with company B throughout my PSW. immediately i get chartered, i can switch employer. I have 4 years experience in the big 4 already. The only reason they are not offering sponsorship is based on their firm wide policy that i have to be chartered for the position i qualify for first.

If company A pays the visa and IHS fees for me and start deducting it from the salary they offered, take home will be very little compared to what i will be earning at company B. Also, the benefit and flexibility that comes with company B is so much better than company A.

My skills and experience will be better utilised at company B because of their clientele portfolio compared to company A.

kwakudtraveller:
Company B. Sponsorship isn’t everything. Company A not covering your Visa fee doesn’t sit right with me. If they had offered that they pay for it and deduct out of your salary, that would have been better. Like someone said, ensure company B puts it in writing. Also, you don’t have to stay with company B for the whole of 2 years, being with a top firm improves your prospects for other companies. Just ensure that you get chartered as soon as you can. Best of luck.

Knowlegeseeking:
I understand, but for career growth, working with company A is far more rewarding. And even if they refuse to sponsor after, i would be chartered by then and it wouldn't be difficult to get a job.

These are the only 2 companies i have applied and interviewed for. Or maybe i should put in more applications. However, time is no longer on my side as my visa expires November.

Knowlegeseeking:
Thank you Kwakudtraveller.

I get the fact that it would take a bit longer to ILR, however, I do not have to stay with company B throughout my PSW. immediately i get chartered, i can switch employer. I have 4 years experience in the big 4 already. The only reason they are not offering sponsorship is based on their firm wide policy that i have to be chartered for the position i qualify for first.

If company A pays the visa and IHS fees for me and start deducting it from the salary they offered, take home will be very little compared to what i will be earning at company B. Also, the benefit and flexibility that comes with company B is so much better than company A.

My skills and experience will be better utilised at company A because of their clientele portfolio compared to company A.

Sorry bro, now I’m a bit confused. Where will your skills be better utilised and which one of them is paying more? Company A or Company B? If it’s company B, then I believe you have your answer already.

Thank you Kode.

kode12:
Can't give much advice here, but don't forget that if you go into PSW then you'll be looking at the 10yr route. Even if you switch into the 5yr track your total time before ILR would almost be at about 8.5-9yrs.
Also, all the company B has done right now is given a promise, which I doubt they'd be legally bound to, so they can turn around at the end of PSW to tell you they're unable to continue with you further.
Lastly, with stuff like mortgages, it's marginally advantageous that you're on a long-term visa like the 5yr SWV rather than that 2yr PSW, so if you're looking to get on the ladder if you haven't already then you should consider that as well. I hope you make the best decision. All the best

Company B i meant. I have edited the response. My skills will be better utilised at company B. Company B is paying more.

kwakudtraveller:
Sorry bro, now I’m a bit confused. Where will your skills be better utilised and which one of them is paying more? Company A or Company B? If it’s company B, then I believe you have your answer already.

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

I will go with company A for the following reasons

Actual offer of sponsorship is better than promise that is not legally binding.

With company A, you are on 5 year route already, with company B you are looking at around 7 years

With company A, you can change to another company on sponsorship with better pay, you can even apply to company be after 2 years if they are willing to sponsor at that time.

With company A, change in visa policy is less likely to affect you because you are in that visa category already, if visa policy changes before company B's sponsorship come, you may be affected (who knew this dependant thing will happen so soon and who knew students would be banned from switching visa category as well? Anything can happen)

Lastly and more importantly, with company A, you have rest of mind, you are not praying for 2 years to come quick so that you will get sponsorship.

The advantage with company B is just high risk high reward. So if you like to take risk you might prefer company B.

Thank you Viruses.

Viruses:
I will go with company A for the following reasons

Actual offer of sponsorship is better than promise that is not legally binding.

With company A, you are on 5 year route already, with company B you are looking at around 7 years

With company A, you can change to another company on sponsorship with better pay, you can even apply to company be after 2 years if they are willing to sponsor at that time.

With company A, change in visa policy is less likely to affect you because you are in that visa category already, if visa policy changes before company B's sponsorship come, you may be affected (who knew this dependant thing will happen so soon and who knew students would be banned from switching visa category as well? Anything can happen)

Lastly and more importantly, with company A, you have rest of mind, you are not praying for 2 years to come quick so that you will get sponsorship.

The advantage with company B is just high risk high reward. So if you like to take risk you might prefer company B.

lavida001:
You are right about black man being the fall is some black men, America is a case study on that one. But UK will never stop student route as they need the money more than we need them.

Bro, UK needs money but Nigerians are poor. I went to Imperial College London guess who I saw there... Asians! Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos. So they can cut us off if they wanted to.

kwakudtraveller:
You are making unnecessary and unfair assumptions. People have gone through hell and back because of Form A and I have close friends that were impacted and almost fell into depression. Some even applied for Form A at a lower rate and they didn’t get approved on time before the free float of Naira which caused bank rates to be the same as the black market rate. They were forced to buy from LemFi causing them to be short of their school fees. Again, make una try dey calm down.

I'm sure a lot of people have been caught out by Form A like you said, but I wonder if there isn't more to this story because it sounds odd that the university would be so unyielding if their fees were really only late by a few hours.

I've come to realise that with immigration issues, people rarely tell the whole truth - not even to their own lawyers a lot of the time.

So the scenarios that bigtt76 mentioned might be very valid and happen a lot more than you realise.

Zahra29:
I'm sure a lot of people have been caught out by Form A like you said, but I wonder if there isn't more to this story because it sounds odd that the university would be so unyielding if their fees were really only late by a few hours.

I've come to realise that with immigration issues, people rarely tell the whole truth - not even to their own lawyers a lot of the time.

So the scenarios that bigtt76 mentioned might be very valid and happen a lot more than you realise.

If my friend had come out to tell their story, people would have assumed that they were lying or telling half truths. These people shared their story and if they were lying, the school would have refuted their claims but they didn’t. In conclusion, the fact that people lie does not in any way mean that these individuals are lying. It is a very unfortunate and sad situation to be in, and I don’t wish it on anyone.

LondyC:
@steadymoving22
@Elff

ChatGPT is an artificial intelligence software that helps you with answers to whatever you need. It’s like your personal assistant. You type in what u need answers to and it provides you with the answer. With job applications, Applicant tracking systems(ATS) would usually screen out your application if you don’t have enough keywords as in the job advert. So to do this without wasting your whole day on one application, just use ChatGPT.

First is to download the ChatGPT app from Apple Store. If you don’t use apple, you can download Bard or Bing from google play store. They also do same thing. Alternatively, u can use the ChatGPT website on your laptop browser: Openai.com if you do your job applications mostly with your laptop. Register and then start chatting with it. You will receive answers to your prompts.

So what I do is quite similar but I only use the person specifications. I still go through it to remove things I can’t defend (I no get power abeg). I also add specific qualifications or experience I have that aren’t there but I feel is important. I try not to max out their word limit so it’s short and easy to read. The fact that you are getting rejection mails shows your application even passed through their ATS which is what ChatGPT helps you achieve. So it’s some progress.

For me, I ask it to write a supporting statement using the person specifications and also NHS values. NHS wants you to talk about their values, it just shows u have researched about them. I attached a sample of the kinda prompt I use with ChatGPT. I even use it to prepare for my interviews.

I hope this helps

Can you explain the attached photo, its not working. its bringing generic answers

Short let needed for couple at Colchester and it environ from September 21 to 29.

bigtt76:
Very true! I want to believe they delayed payments deliberately to see if they could switch or they lied to school about their fees cleared but delayed by the banks. I know a couple of students who lied to the finance team about the funds cleared but pending whereas they didn't have it. Some others would just fill the form A online and print without submitting the present same as proof to school. Sad how our people try to play smart at times.

You want to believe?

Why exactly do you want to believe that and what's the basis for that assumption other than you knowing some people who did that?

You're generalising and it's terribly unfair. There are several several ways things could have gone amiss outside of their control.

I pray you don't have cause to be in a bad situation and all involved automatically think the worst of you.

Hello Great Minds,

A friend's passport expires this August and the visa on it expires Oct 2024, though she has applied for passport renewal with her biometric date coming up in October.

Pls she wants to know if she can still apply for jobs using the new application and what other means of identification can she use.

Btw, she has the Nigeria NIN.

Thanks

KolaShangOne:
There has been a history of "Real Estate companies" that do not have genuine documents. Some will collect money without allocating the lands.

First, check their history. You can google their names.

Before buying land, you also have to confirm that the estate has genuine document (Global C of O) for that land.

This you can do by going to Ministry of Lands.

ShangOne

OG before IG

I salute

In my opinion, you can get chartered at any time, but now in view of current uncertainty I still suggest you go for the one with sponsorship than wait out the PSW which we don't know what the government may decide in the future. All the best though.

Knowlegeseeking:
I understand, but for career growth, working with company B is far more rewarding. And even if they refuse to sponsor after, i would be chartered by then and it wouldn't be difficult to get a job.

These are the only 2 companies i have applied and interviewed for. Or maybe i should put in more applications. However, time is no longer on my side as my visa expires November.

Knowlegeseeking:
I understand, but for career growth, working with company B is far more rewarding. And even if they refuse to sponsor after, i would be chartered by then and it wouldn't be difficult to get a job.

These are the only 2 companies i have applied and interviewed for. Or maybe i should put in more applications. However, time is no longer on my side as my visa expires November.

There's a lot of flux in immigration law and policy at the moment, with elections coming. Best to lock in your status as a skilled worker for the full duration and then you can move later as opportunities present themselves.

Stop wishing me ill-luck. I agree several things could've gone wrong for them but I also stated my thoughts on where they may have been complacent which for free I can tell you almost 90% of the last September/January japa cohorts were involved. We may want to remain in self denial but it is not a good trend to encourage. Issues like these are what is causing the government to change their rules and universities may be forced to follow same route.

koonbey:
You want to believe?

Why exactly do you want to believe that and what's the basis for that assumption other than you knowing some people who did that?

You're generalising and it's terribly unfair. There are several several ways things could have gone amiss outside of their control.

I pray you don't have cause to be in a bad situation and all involved automatically think the worst of you.

Knowlegeseeking:
Thank you Viruses.

Sponsorship is priority. However, I would balk at committing to a company for 5 years because I believe there will be better opportunities and also considering the financial visa app implications.

I would ask comp A to reduce COS to 2 years and give financial burden as reason, I think any reasonable employer should allow this. That way you get on the ILR journey asap without having to spend so much, and you can move companies later without feeling like you have wasted funds.

Knowlegeseeking:
My people,

Thank you for helping me stay on track with my ACCA and audit career.

Please come out and help me with taking this decision.

I have 2 jobs offers. One with the audit firm (company A) i currently work with on a part time basis (unto 20hrs limit) which is offering me 5 years sponsorship and another audit firm (company B) offering me 2 years fixed contract based on me going on a PSW visa route first, and subsequent sponsorship when i get chartered.

The second company is a top 15 audit firm here with very good pay and benefits. The one i currently work with is on the lower cadre of audit firms and the pay and benefit is not as good as the former.

For company A (sponsorship), i will bear the cost of Visa and IHS for the 5 years (9,086 with the going rate or 13,624 if the new rate is applicable by October). This calculation includes my spouse and I. There is the option of paying this cost overtime by direct deduction from my salary.

But if i go with going on the PSW first and finishing my exams, I only bear PSW costs (3,926 pounds with the current rate or 5,785 if the new rate is applicable by October). company B assures bearing all costs of sponsorship when we get to that bridge.

I have considered career trajectory, interests, work-life balance, proximity, etc, and the company B tick more boxes.

In your honest opinion, please tell me what the best choice will be.

Thank you.

Money you spent on company is an investment on time cos you get pr in 5 years after which you can join any top 4 audit firm in the uk but with company B its 7 years moreso they may change mouth for your when posy study about to expire were will you run to