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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 12:40pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


Madison may not be perfect for the role but he's going to be miles better in that position than Mason Mount is. His ball retention, passing range, vision, and other core midfielder attributes are better than Mount's.

Zero Hang shouldn't be given too much power over transfers. Mr. P. E. teacher should've been retained to handle that.
Yea Madison is clearly the better player, though still not fit for the role.. they both are attacking midfielders.

Still I can't wrap my head how both Arsenal and Man utd chose Mount and Havertz respectively when there's Madison available and cheaper grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 12:53pm On Aug 20, 2023
melodyogonna:

Lol.

People dey muzz me sha. But it's not that simple. If he plays 6 months in the position he might start grasp what is really needed. You're being dishonest by trying to make it just another position. A CF and a Winger plays fundamentally different styles

It’s just plain over pampering and excuses for this Rashford guy😂
Most top wingers do decently at CF. Yes, they are deadlier from the wings but it does not mean they can’t fill in for the team up front
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 12:56pm On Aug 20, 2023
England. O ti lo. Sorry!!

Putellas no play anything this world cup. Fifa will still manage to give her the next Balon d'Or
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 1:05pm On Aug 20, 2023
weedtaker:
Yea Madison is clearly the better player, though still not fit for the role.. they both are attacking midfielders.

Still I can't wrap my head how both Arsenal and Man utd chose Mount and Havertz respectively when there's Madison available and cheaper grin
I'm not alone then.
If e too much, use Maddison as an understudy to Bruno.
Bruno can also pair with Case behind Maddison.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:25pm On Aug 20, 2023
TrebleChamp:
Allow Hojlund play for us first nah, you just dey attack the young man.

😂😂😂😂

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:27pm On Aug 20, 2023
Mrviktor:
Kane this.
Kane that.

Rashford was up top.
How many chances were created for him?

You dey watch Kane at all for Spurs? Kane can drop deep and orchestrate play if hes not getting the desired service up front.

Kane can also win aerial duels, something Rashford cant do even if his life depends on it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:28pm On Aug 20, 2023
afrodoc2:


He does not really know how to identify talent, so he goes back to the tried and trusted players. Funny thing is that those players originally became his players because Overmars (not ETH) identified them.
Unfortunately, there is nobody at United who has the confidence or football know-how to advise him otherwise. I always said not keeping Rangnick on as DoF was a mistake cos it looks like ETH knows the style of football he wants to play but does not know the type of players he needs to play it.

Then he should allow the DoF and scouts to do their jobs. He should tell them what he is trying to do and allow them identify and sign the players. The way he is going about it right now does not make sense at all.

Betterstill, he should ask the management for a well experienced DoF. I remember that when he was negotiating his contract, he specifically said he wants to have a significant say in transfer matters. Unfortunately, he can’t do everything. He should focus on figuring out the best set up and tactics and ask people to help him identify players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:32pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


Madison may not be perfect for the role but he's going to be miles better in that position than Mason Mount is. His ball retention, passing range, vision, and other core midfielder attributes are better than Mount's.

Zero Hang shouldn't be given too much power over transfers. Mr. P. E. teacher should've been retained to handle that.

But he asked for the power. It was a condition in his contract. I remember we were joking in here that he told Ralf to fuvk off.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:33pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


Then he should allow the DoF and scouts to do their jobs. He should tell them what he is trying to do and allow them identify and sign the players. The way he is going about it right now does not make sense at all.

Betterstill, he should ask the management for a well experienced DoF. I remember that when he was negotiating his contract, he specifically said he wants to have a significant say in transfer matters. Unfortunately, he can’t do everything. He should focus on figuring out the best set up and tactics and ask people to help him identify players.

If he wanted to allow the DoF to do their jobs he would not have insisted on Rangnick being sent packing (as we were made to believe). It seems he bet on himself to identify the players that will suit his system and if he loses the bet he will lose his job as well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nigeriagood(m): 1:37pm On Aug 20, 2023
YourBestWriter:


The match today showed their true colour clearly for all to see. They gave him ball, Bruno please head the ball inside net; wahala. Okay rashford one on one, he chop am. Sincerely manutd should have sold rashford to psg
anyhow when you are in a bad team you will look bad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:38pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


But he asked for the power. It was a condition in his contract. I remember we were joking in here that he told Ralf to fuvk off.

I warned guys here then. It is like appointing the Brighton DoF as our interim manager with the understanding that he would be our DoF next season but then cancelling his DoF contract cos he failed as a manager. But guys were emotional about Rangnick because of his performance as a manager as if the skillsets to be a manager and DoF are the same. 16 months after he said we need major surgery we have bought 6 first team players and brought in several other squad players.......and the surgery is not yet over.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 1:42pm On Aug 20, 2023
Can we swap rashford to this my beautiful crush in Spain. Salma parallulello!! grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by metodman(m): 1:46pm On Aug 20, 2023
maik99:


It’s just plain over pampering and excuses for this Rashford guy😂
Most top wingers do decently at CF. Yes, they are deadlier from the wings but it does not mean they can’t fill in for the team up front

Absolutely. Even on the wings, he's very very inconsistent and selfish. I can't wait for Holjund to come in to see if Rashford will change his attitude. The only player I know he always look out for is his useless friend (Martial), who he passes to. He plays like he has told himself that he's the most important player in the team.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:47pm On Aug 20, 2023
afrodoc2:


I warned guys here then. It is like appointing the Brighton DoF as our interim manager with the understanding that he would be our DoF next season but then cancelling his DoF contract cos he failed as a manager. But guys were emotional about Rangnick because of his performance as a manager as if the skillsets to be a manager and DoF are the same. 16 months after he said we need major surgery we have bought 6 first team players and brought in several other squad players.......and the surgery is not yet over.

Tbh, I was not ready to accept Ralf as DoF because of ETH. Having a well experienced DoF means not-enough power to the manager on transfers and what have we, which could affect elite (and stubborn) managers like ETH. I thought ETH had learnt a lot from the Ajax guys. We are in a dire situation!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:55pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


Tbh, I was not ready to accept Ralf as DoF because of ETH. Having a well experienced DoF means not-enough power to the manager on transfers and what have we, which could affect elite (and stubborn) managers like ETH. I thought ETH had learnt a lot from the Ajax guys. We are in a dire situation!

That is where you guys (and ETH) got it wrong. Even Pep had enough football people advising him at both Bayern and City. ETH himself had Overmars as an experienced DoF at Ajax.

The reason most people here didn't want Rangnick as DoF was because of his record with us as interim manager, and that reason was and remains ridiculous. I am almost certain that was also the reason why the board accepted ETH's demand to be in control of transfers. Power that he didn't have at Ajax o.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:27pm On Aug 20, 2023
We will start demanding ETH resignation lf he perform poorly in our next match. last season was enough to work out his plans. We shud b cing result now!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:28pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


But he asked for the power. It was a condition in his contract. I remember we were joking in here that he told Ralf to fuvk off.

Our history didn't give us much room for maneuvers tbh. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't decentralize that recruitment authority a bit. It's the same mistake we made with Ole. We need another experienced football person in top position apart from the coach.

EtH knows nothing about talent and team building. He only buys players who he's worked with or wanted to work with in the last. And no one could veto his decisions.

At Ajax, experienced footballers- Overmars and VDS- kept him in check. At United, John Murtough is the doF.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:33pm On Aug 20, 2023
afrodoc2:


That is where you guys (and ETH) got it wrong. Even Pep had enough football people advising him at both Bayern and City. ETH himself had Overmars as an experienced DoF at Ajax.

The reason most people here didn't want Rangnick as DoF was because of his record with us as interim manager, and that reason was and remains ridiculous. I am almost certain that was also the reason why the board accepted ETH's demand to be in control of transfers. Power that he didn't have at Ajax o.

LoL. This is what I just said.

He's only interested in his exes.

I'm starting to suspect John Murtough is putting brakes on his Amrabat purchase because he's noticing this pattern.

We should never have allowed Rangnick to go because he was a bad coach. A Rangnick-EtH combo is better than having Rangick or ETH alone at the helm of affairs.

Rangnick - below average coach, good recruiter
ETH- below average recruiter, good coach.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:49pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


LoL. This is what I just said.

He's only interested in his exes.

I'm starting to suspect John Murtough is putting brakes on his Amrabat purchase because he's noticing this pattern.

We should never have allowed Rangnick to go because he was a bad coach. A Rangnick-EtH combo is better than having Rangick or ETH alone at the helm of affairs.

Rangnick - below average coach, good recruiter
ETH- below average recruiter, good coach.

Honestly, the jury is out there on whether or not both men re who we think they are. Both might have done it in clubs/leagues of less quality and low expectations. Also, we should think about the frictions that would have occurred between both in the same club. ETH is just too stubborn!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by macjireh: 2:54pm On Aug 20, 2023
weedtaker:
Yea Madison is clearly the better player, though still not fit for the role.. they both are attacking midfielders.

Still I can't wrap my head how both Arsenal and Man utd chose Mount and Havertz respectively when there's Madison available and cheaper grin
They have won champions league,,add some respek tongue tongue tongue....who is Madison cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 2:57pm On Aug 20, 2023
metodman:


Absolutely. Even on the wings, he's very very inconsistent and selfish. I can't wait for Holjund to come in to see if Rashford will change his attitude. The only player I know he always look out for is his useless friend (Martial), who he passes to. He plays like he has told himself that he's the most important player in the team.

You know ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:58pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


LoL. This is what I just said.

He's only interested in his exes.

I'm starting to suspect John Murtough is putting brakes on his Amrabat purchase because he's noticing this pattern.

We should never have allowed Rangnick to go because he was a bad coach. A Rangnick-EtH combo is better than having Rangick or ETH alone at the helm of affairs.

Rangnick - below average coach, good recruiter
ETH- below average recruiter, good coach.
Lol ETH average recruiter? You're being economical with the truth sir

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 3:02pm On Aug 20, 2023
metodman:


Absolutely. Even on the wings, he's very very inconsistent and selfish. I can't wait for Holjund to come in to see if Rashford will change his attitude. The only player I know he always look out for is his useless friend (Martial), who he passes to He plays like he has told himself that he's the most important player in the team.
Ibeji Oran grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:03pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


Honestly, the jury is out there on whether or not both men re who we think they are. Both might have done it in clubs/leagues of less quality and low expectations. Also, we should think about the frictions that would have occurred between both in the same club. ETH is just too stubborn!

Stubbornness and friction that did not happen with Overmars and VDs at Ajax? His stubbornness is cos he can see that he is the only true football ball mind in the room. At Ajax they cut him to size.
I was always afraid that the move to kick Rangnick out would be a mistake. Reminds me of Moyes that sacked Ferguson’s backroom staff before resuming the job.

With regards to Rangnick he set the template for the long term the success of the RB clubs. You are saying the jury is out on him as a director of football cos you are still thinking of his coaching record with us. Same mistake, different name. You can’t judge a DoF by his coaching record.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:09pm On Aug 20, 2023
nitrogen:


Honestly, the jury is out there on whether or not both men re who we think they are. Both might have done it in clubs/leagues of less quality and low expectations. Also, we should think about the frictions that would have occurred between both in the same club. ETH is just too stubborn!

I actually want that friction. I don’t like it when power is too concentrated at one source. The doF shouldn’t be too powerful, neither should the coach. This will regulate nepotism and favoritism, which should favor the club in the end.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by macjireh: 3:30pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


I actually want that friction. I don’t like it when power is too concentrated at one source. The doF shouldn’t be too powerful, neither should the coach. This will regulate nepotism and favoritism, which should favor the club in the end.

Divide and rule system
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:25pm On Aug 20, 2023
Every team knows how to score goals except our own
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 4:41pm On Aug 20, 2023
#TrashfordOUT
#TrashHagOUT
#SackTheFrauds

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:52pm On Aug 20, 2023
eph12:

Lol ETH average recruiter? You're being economical with the truth sir

I said below average. Maybe you need reading glasses.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:01pm On Aug 20, 2023
Leyqute:


I said below average. Maybe you need reading glasses.
Oh okay
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 5:17pm On Aug 20, 2023
So many pages added, thought it was for the sack of ETH, mtchew 😠😠
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:20pm On Aug 20, 2023
CrystalTiger:
So many pages added, thought it was for the sack of ETH, mtchew 😠😠

grin grin grin

Don't worry. Before they sack him the club with DM you first.

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