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| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by johnw47: 2:13pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 2:22pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Okay. 1. Yahweh originally told balaam not to go with them, but changed his mind and told him to go with them when they sent more goodies. Is he getting bribed or what? 2. Now when balaam obeyed him and went with them, he sent an angel to kill him, even though poor balaam was adhering to his instructions 3. After threatening balaam that he would have killed him if not for the donkey, he still went ahead to tell him to continue on the journey 4. I don't want to talk about the talking donkey ( that's some hardcore Shrek moves ) that's for another day. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:11pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
jaephoenix:[1] Balaam is not a prophet of Jehovah but a sorcerer who feared the true God so when God told him not to go it was because Balaam's life is in danger. An angel (most suspected to be Michael) is with the Israelites so whoever lay a curse on God's people will be killed by the angel of God leading the camp of Israel {Exodus 14:19} but after they have paid him Jehovah asked him to go but it's only what Jehovah puts in Balaam's mouth that he must say. [2] Balaam changed his mind and look for another means of cursing the Israelites that's why God sent the angel to destroy him. He taught the king to select attractive young girls and pay them to seduce Israelite men into committing fornication and worshiping their idols that's what led to the death of 23,000 Israelites. [3] You're citing the same case here Balaam can go with the enemies of Israel but he must not speak a word unless what Jehovah put in his mouth. [4] it's better we leave the talking donkey out of our discussion since you find it absorb even though i believe every single word found in the Bible. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:17pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:With this response, I believe you haven't read that chapter, even though I posted it here. Please I beg, do read it, and then glance through my questions. Thank you |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:31pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
Lemme make it easy for you… 20 That night God came to balaam and said, “Since these men have come to summon you, go with them, but do only what I tell you.” balaam’s Donkey 21 balaam got up in the morning, saddled his donkey and went with the Moabite officials. 22 But God was very angry when he went, and the angel of the Lord stood in the road to oppose him balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with a drawn sword in his hand, it turned off the road into a field. balaam beat it to get it back on the road. 32 The angel of the Lord asked him, “Why have you beaten your donkey these three times? I have come here to oppose you because your path is a reckless one before me.[a] 33 The donkey saw me and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away, I would certainly have killed you by now, but I would have spared it.” I have highlighted the challenging parts in case you have comprehension issues. Now read and explain what you can understand |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:22pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
jaephoenix:He changed his strategy that's why God got angry with him. He stopped thinking about how to curse the Israelites then went ahead to give the king an advice to lure the Israelites into committing fornication! |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 6:57pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please can you point out where Balaam changed his strategy or even went against Yahweh? ![]() Thank you |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:14pm On Aug 23, 2023*. Modified: 7:36pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Balaam knew Jehovah very well that He's a faithful God ever protective towards His faithful worshipers so Balaam adviced Balak to use Moabite girls against the worshipers of Jehovah so that the angel protecting them can leave the camp. That's what made Jehovah Himself turn against Israelites to afflict them with pestilence. Exodus 34:16 compare to Deuteronomy 7:4 Oh! You asked for where it's recorded that Balaam changed his strategy so open to the Bible book of Revelations: “‘Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, that you have there those adhering to the teaching of Baʹlaam, who TAUGHT Baʹlak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit sexual immorality" Revelations 2:14 This is what was missing in Moses's account of that story Jesus (Archangel Michael) later reveal to apostle John. Remember i told you that he was the angel representing Jehovah {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} in the camp of God's people as a protective shield {Daniel 12:1} Moses only discovered that many among Israelites young men started sleeping with Moabite women following them to worship their Gods that's all he knew back then! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 8:35pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Max are you sure you don't have some loose screws upstairs? I’m seriously asking cos you don't sound coherent. This is beyond poor comprehension skills. NOW FOR THE LAST TIME, CAN YOU POINT OUT IN THIS BIBLE PASSAGE WHERE BALAAM DISOBEYED YAHWEH |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Ọmọ this is not the time to turn the whole thing into insults so calm down and come out openly what exactly you really want to know. I told you what Jesus revealed to us in the Bible book of Revelations regarding Balaam's evil scheme. So if you're not comfortable just tell me it's not by force you agree you're only demanding for a reason why i BELIEVE (TRUST) the Bible nah! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:54pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
Na wah o! ![]() Someone asked why God suddenly got annoyed with the false prophet and i showed you in the same book (Bible) Neither you nor myself wrote any part of that book, the difference between you and i is that i was trained by the real BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ chosen to feed God's people this endtime {Matthew 24:45} so when i told you we know all 66 books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses so we can connect it all to teach whoever is willing to learn. So if you're not happy that i have helped you to solved the riddle just tell me and i will take my leave but know today that Jehovah's Witnesses have all the answers you need in our book, your book, God's word the Holy Bible. Thanks for your time and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
I tried to check your profile now and found this: jaephoenix:Please masturbators often suffer mood swings. Try to stop it in order to be consistent in whatever you want to do and maintain your calmness. This is life nobody is answerable to you so when people come to chat with you due to what you want to know they're not your enemies rather they're here to rub minds with you. Until you get yourself together again farewell! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:36pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Again, read Numbers 22 and point out where Balaam disobeyed Yahweh's instructions. Leave what happened in Revelations, its not related to the Yahweh-Balaam interactions because Balaam did exactly what Yahweh wanted and nearly got killed for it. Please can someone with a brain explain this to Max |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:39pm On Aug 23, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Lol. So Dr. Max where did you read that masturbators suffer mood swings? Or is it one of your Kingdom Hall medical classes that they taught you that? At least masturbation is better than child molestation(which you guys are specialist at), don't you think? By the way, you have been throwing insults my way since, I have been ignoring. I gave you a bit of your own medicine and you're foaming rubbish from your mouth |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by johnw47: 11:54pm On Aug 23, 2023*. Modified: 12:22am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:your so called real born again brothers of Christ used to hang with me, one said to me: don't keep talking about Jesus, He is no one, they would go on and on sayng the name Jehovah as if there is magic in saying the name. another false jw said see that house over there (a very nice house) that's going to be mine after armageddon (coverting) and much other like that, you people are frauds mad max, and liars: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. puffed up lost false jw mad max in this con-test between the atheist and the delusional, you have shown to have no test-is |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40am On Aug 24, 2023*. Modified: 3:56am On Aug 24, 2023 |
jaephoenix:I promised to deliver and i did using the same book (Bible) to show you where it's written that Balaam changed his strategy and incurred the wrath of Jehovah. There are many things hidden that God's son (Jesus Christ) revealed to his BORN AGAIN Christian brothers. Moses only knew that his people were dying of pestilence until Phinehas pinned an Israelite guy and Moabite lady to death while they're having s€x. So if you're pained that your most trusted bullet aimed at God's word has been rendered futile that's not my own problem. The STORY you raised is found in the Bible the answer i gave you is found in the same book (Bible) so why the sudden change in your mood? Well i have accepted your apology knowing fully well that your arrogance towards God's word will be humbled. We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that book (Bible) belongs to us so go and tell all your fellow atheists, agnostics and misinformed churchgoers criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses that i have shown you what Balaam did to offend Jehovah right inside the same book Bible. May you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:53am On Aug 24, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Below is your apology showing you've got my point that i'm not here to throw tantrums or argue aimlessly but to set matters straight picking few points. jaephoenix:So if you suddenly turned abusive while reading my comments regarding what you asked then it means something is wrong somewhere. How can you tender an apology and afterwards there has been calmness on the thread as all the followers are watching to see how our friendly conversation goes then you suddenly got provoked instead of pointing out what else you want to know? Ọmọ if you have anything tangible to say i'm in but if it's getting on your nerves there's no need to continue the discussion! Proverbs 17:14 |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21am On Aug 24, 2023 |
johnw47:Below is your runaway end-of-comments as you don't know how to answer the atheist. johnw47:So instead of throwing tantrums why not learn from real disciples of Christ how to maintain calmness in scriptural topics? 1Peter 3:15 I skillfully humbled the atheist using choicest of words to calm his nerves and after he has tendered an apology i gave him the answer he seek. All of you can learn from the way and manner i handled his case. I'm sure you guys will always remember me when i stop commenting on this forum, until then i have proved to all of you this day that the book Bible with it's 66 little books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses were written by Jehovah's Witnesses and only Jehovah's Witnesses can fish out answers to all the questions you may raise in our book, your book, God's word: The Holy Bible! May you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by johnw47: 5:31am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max your lies are never ending, you could not stop for anything, could you: false jw: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse: why not learn from real disciples of Christ how to maintain calmness in scriptural topics? 1Peter 3:15and of course u forever puffing yourself up: your delusions of greatness: A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by johnw47: 5:39am On Aug 24, 2023 |
ManinDHouse lost false jw mad max of course you run away from the main part of my post, not being able to truthfully reply false jw: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. fearful false jw rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. johnw47: your so called real born again brothers of Christ used to hang with me, one said to me: |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Nobody: 9:16am On Aug 24, 2023 |
jaephoenix:I don't know if I'm wicked, but I feel so happy that Max has been avoiding a valid response... I'm not forcing you to believe, neither am I making much effort to convince you. But our God hates the love of money. 1. Ask God for something (of worldly pleasure) too much, even after He has said no, and He'll use that thing to destroy you. Ask the Children of Israel how they managed to receive poisoned meat from their God. 2. Not everytime God gives a response, that you'll say God said it with His voice. Most times it's Angels responding, or the Holy Spirit or Jesus. Truly, God hardly speaks directly. I've forgotten the name, but a certain King inquired of the Lord before going into battle, all the prophets said God had promised victory — except one man. It is later revealed that God had allowed the prophets to receive a lying spirit that gave out that false prophecy. For me, God already told Balaam that he should not curse those people. Balaam, out of greed because of more 'money' decided to to ask God again so that perhaps, he could curse them and enjoy the money in peace (God had already said His mind). God decided to destroy Balaam because of the greed... Actually the plan was for Balaam to go and bless those people, instead of curse them. But as complex as my God is, He still had to point out that death/destruction is the penalty for greed. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Aug 24, 2023 |
preciousee17:I gave him the valid response any honest hearted inquisitor will love to hear but because he's determined to rubbish God's word that it's meaningless that's what made him really mad as i quoted Jesus telling us the evil hidden in Balaam's heart which he later carried out. preciousee17:This is exactly what the atheist expected from you people so that he tell you how hopeless your faith is in a mysterious being that's unpredictable. Well that's the difference between you people and Jehovah's Witnesses, we are the Witnesses of our own God sent to prove that our God is not a monster whose actions can't be understood. Abraham is our father {Romans 4:11} he questioned his God for going to destroy a whole city where faithful people could be found in the midst of evildoers: “Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? ....... It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:23-25 Note the highlighted in red! Abraham argued with the true God that he shouldn't do what is unexplainable meaning a worshiper of the God of Abraham should be able to explain to worshipers of other Gods whatever his God does. That's the one and only difference between the God of Abraham and all other Gods that you can't vouch for! Well Balaam changed his strategy that's the evil he did! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Nobody: 10:11am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I expected you to reply when I saw you reading the post, so I would accept that I'm the cause — for mentioning part of your name. I saw your 'Balaam change of strategy' response and even if it looks confusing, I refuse to dive deeper because that's not what OP was focusing on. He asked something simple, you gave him a far answer (I'm not saying you're wrong). I gave him a better answer — an answer that fits within the info he gave... You've ended up replying me with words I don't understand. You end up attacking where I said my God is complex. Please just explain this your quote better, point out my exact error cos I don't seem to understand at all. Seriously. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Nobody: 10:24am On Aug 24, 2023 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=125323862][/quote]I had to calm down and read your replies (you should try to be straightforward at times) Do you mean to say God is not complex? By complex, did I convey that God is monstrous? (Although He is the Lion and the Lamb. The Father and The Judge) You lots rush to misquote someone first before successfully making a point that count. Your brother ran from the other post after I dropped 18 questions, just like you ran after I dropped a couple of Bible scriptures. When the words are many and overwhelming, you guys don't see how to misquote and hence you run. (Don't worry, I'm not typing out of anger). Someone reaffirmed that you first of all announce yourself in a delusional grandeur — just like I said that you have Pride. And we both know that Pride goes before a fall. It's no wonder the devil can bring doctrines to you and you'll be too proud to confirm first. If God is complex, and the OP wants to hear that, in order to thwart God's image, should I oblige and refuse to acknowledge that my God is complex? Note: We had already agreed that 1.) My God differs from yours 2.) We are never to communicate on Nairaland so this should be my last response anyways. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31am On Aug 24, 2023*. Modified: 11:16am On Aug 24, 2023 |
preciousee17:This is all i need in your post! So instead of mentioning me in connection with you own God just go straight to talk about yours since your God totally differs from mine. I spoke as a WITNESS of my own God so speak for yours! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:58am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Lol. You really are a fruity job. These JWs did a number on your brain. Religion truly is dangerous. Reason why a whole group of people can follow someone to commit suicide, like Jim Jones etc. If you cannot read and comprehend a passage, then its not my problem. Someone gave you a passage about an event, you interpreted it with some nonsense that is completely irrelevant to the matter. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:03am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:The problem is you know nothing. From making nonsense of an explanation for an event, to stating masturbators have mood swings. And in your twisted mind, you made sense. This decisions of grandeur is getting serious. You need a good psychiatrist to shrink your brain. I'm serious, no cap. Btw, my apology was for the long initial post which I tendered to everyone here, and not to your overbloated ego. You can twist it any way you like. I'm a humble person, not a grandiose nutjob like you |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Aug 24, 2023 |
jaephoenix: jaephoenix:Thanks for your time Sir. Now you can go back to your friends it seems they have all the answers you want! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by cornelboy(f): 11:09am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Her God is "the Lion and the Lamb. The Father and The Judge". So confused. |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:13am On Aug 24, 2023 |
cornelboy:Oh! I don't expect you to comment here because she already said her God is COMPLEX so there is no need discussing about her God's action since it is COMPLEX! ![]() |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:16am On Aug 24, 2023 |
preciousee17:Now someone with some brain has replied. Hallelujah! 1. Did you read anywhere in that passage that Balaam enquired anything from Yahweh? Nope. In fact, it was Yahweh that was doing the enquiries. 9 God came to balaam and asked, “Who are these men with you?” 10 balaam said to God, “Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab, sent me this message: 11 ‘A people that has come out of Egypt covers the face of the land. Now come and put a curse on them for me. Perhaps then I will be able to fight them and drive them away.’” 12 But God said to balaam, “Do not go with them. You must not put a curse on those people, because they are blessed.” … and this 20 That night God came to balaam and said, “Since these men have come to summon you, go with them, but do only what I tell you.” On the first occasion he was asking Balaam who the men are and he(Balaam) explained to Yahweh. On the second occasion(when the men came back with more stuff), Yahweh told Balaam what to do, which he did. AT NO POINT DID BALAAM DISOBEY YAHWEH OR EVEN EXPRESS GREED. HE TOLD THEM AB INITIO THAT HE WONT CURSE ISRAEL. 2. How come an omniscient god doesn't know the future(he doesn't know who men were and he didn't even know that they were coming back) 3. How come he wanted to destroy Balaam for obeying him? |
| Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:18am On Aug 24, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:When you can read and write, we can converse. Til then, go back to kindergarten |
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