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cornelboy:
Do you believe in the trinity?

such dummies you false jw's and atheists

i don't discuss wonderful things with dogs and pigs
i will keep replying to you though, showing how dum you are etc.

Mat_7:6  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

jaephoenix:
Ummm... Whats the difference between the small g and big g. Same thing if you ask me

dope

showing how dum you are

jaephoenix:
And how exactly do you intend to 'kick this atheist bum'? By keeping quiet?

dope

i have already started kicking your bum, but you, like false jw's is to dum to see

by the way, you call cowardly and then run away for hours, funny

jaephoenix:
In trying to avoid a pitfall, you ended up running into a dam.
Can you explain what the bolded means? Doesn't it still point to an all knowing being?
Besides, you carefully ignored the Bible passages which clearly depicted your god as all knowing.
Being a JW is truly a hard business. Lol

Perhaps you only know how to use big grammars. You couldn't understand a simple sentence.

God has the power to know everything and he uses it when he wants to.

Take for example, when the people in Noah's day were committing a lot of atrocities, God wasn't aware until it was brought to his notice. He confirmed it, regretted he created them and punished them. You can go look for the chapter.

I was making a point that God doesn't constantly feeds himself with all the evils and atrocities going on in the world. He only cares for his people and watch over them and uses the power (of knowing everything) whenever it's needed.

johnw47:
such dummies you false jw's and atheists

i don't discuss wonderful things with dogs and pigs
i will keep replying to you though, showing how dum you are etc.

Mat_7:6  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

You're the dog here running after the JWs for crumbles of bread.

cornelboy:
Perhaps you only know how to use big grammars. You couldn't understand a simple sentence.
God has the power to know everything and he uses it when he wants to.
Take for example, when the people in Noah's day were committing a lot of atrocities, God wasn't aware until it was brought to his notice. He confirmed it, regretted he created them and punished them. You can go look for the chapter.
I was making a point that God doesn't constantly feeds himself with all the evils and atrocities going on in the world. He only cares for his people and watch over them and uses the power (of knowing everything) whenever it's needed.

God only knows everything whenever it's needed, so funny, you as dum as atheist

cornelboy:
You're the dog here running after the JWs for crumbles of bread.

false jw's

never able to stop lying, just like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

well girls, join you again later tonight

johnw47:
false jw's

never able to stop lying, just like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

You keep reciting the same verses for years.

johnw47:
God only knows everything whenever it's needed, so funny, you as dum as atheist

Genesis 6:5-6 NLV
[5]The lord observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and he saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil.
[6]So the lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart.

Genesis 18:20-22 NLV
[20]So the lord told Abraham, “I have heard a great outcry from Sodom and Gomorrah, because their sin is so flagrant.
[21]I am going down to see if their actions are as wicked as I have heard. If not, I want to know.”
[22]The other men turned and headed toward Sodom, but the lord remained with Abraham.

Do these sound to you that God knew everything all along?
He knows everything spontaneously all at once? No!

I was making a point the other time.
Do you think your trinity Gods feeds and enjoy themselves pleasurely with all the atrocities and immoralities happening at nightclubs around the world? You can't tell me he doesn't see and know that too.

My holy God certainly doesn't feed himself with all that.

He has the ability to know but only use it when he wants to.

cornelboy:
Do you believe in the trinity?

I thought your friend Max said its only churchgoers that derail threads. Please open your own thread on Trinidad and Tobago but face the topic on hand. Thank you

johnw47:
dope

i have already started kicking your bum, but you, like false jw's is to dum to see

by the way, you call cowardly and then run away for hours, funny

Unlike you that spend your life visiting threads which you cannot engage in, I have an offline job. Thank you

cornelboy:
Perhaps you only know how to use big grammars. You couldn't understand a simple sentence.

God has the power to know everything and he uses it when he wants to.

Take for example, when the people in Noah's day were committing a lot of atrocities, God wasn't aware until it was brought to his notice. He confirmed it, regretted he created them and punished them. You can go look for the chapter.

I was making a point that God doesn't constantly feeds himself with all the evils and atrocities going on in the world. He only cares for his people and watch over them and uses the power (of knowing everything) whenever it's needed.

In other words, he's still omniscient but chooses when to be omniscient?
Lol. Like I said, its truly hard being a theist but harder being a JW

johnw47:
well girls, join you again later tonight

So you actually run when challenged? Interesting

cornelboy:
Genesis 6:5-6 NLV
[5]The lord observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and he saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil.
[6]So the lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart.

Genesis 18:20-22 NLV
[20]So the lord told Abraham, “I have heard a great outcry from Sodom and Gomorrah, because their sin is so flagrant.
[21]I am going down to see if their actions are as wicked as I have heard. If not, I want to know.”
[22]The other men turned and headed toward Sodom, but the lord remained with Abraham.

Do these sound to you that God knew everything all along?
He knows everything spontaneously all at once? No!

I was making a point the other time.
Do you think your trinity Gods feeds and enjoy themselves pleasurely with all the atrocities and immoralities happening at nightclubs around the world? You can't tell me he doesn't see and know that too.

My holy God certainly doesn't feed himself with all that.

He has the ability to know but only use it when he wants to.

So an omniscient god(who chooses when he would be omniscient) does not know that his creations would eventually be evil?
Interesting

cornelboy:
You're the dog here running after the JWs for crumbles of bread.

He is empty nah me he wan follow talk make he just dey quote verses without applying it coherently.

jaephoenix:
So an omniscient god(who chooses when he would be omniscient) does not know that his creations would eventually be evil?
Interesting

You are the ones saying he's omniscient and want him to be what you him to be. You can't control God.

If we are talking about general knowledge, he knows everything. He knows what the universe is made of, how everything happened, how life begin, what our bodies is made of, just name it.

But when it comes to our action, what will happen in the very next minute, he doesn't know.

For example I could be going down the street tonight and see a prostitute, take her somewhere and have s3x with her or I might just ignore her temptation and please Jehovah.
God doesn't know and control these outcomes but he wants his people to do the right thing.

Do you think he knew Adam would sin and yet he still went ahead to create him? He could have created programmed robots.
Look at Satan for example, he rebelled and cause so much chaos in the world today. God wouldn't have created him in the first place.

So created us and gave us the free will to choose between good and bad. He had hope in Adam but Adam failed.
He still has hope in us today till today.
That's why he will save the good people in the future and destroy bad people.

In a nutshell, God has the ability to know the future but he doesn't control the future. He can use the ability whenever he wants to but he doesn't use it spontaneously and continuously.

jaephoenix:
In other words, he's still omniscient but chooses when to be omniscient?
Lol. Like I said, its truly hard being a theist but harder being a JW

Thank you.
And it seems very easy to be an atheist.
Every intelligence individual knows that there's a mastermind behind creation. Only the study of how our DNA work proves that. Even the nature surrounding us proves that.
Nothing can come out of nothing.

jaephoenix:
I thought your friend Max said its only churchgoers that derail threads. Please open your own thread on Trinidad and Tobago but face the topic on hand. Thank you

Lol.

cornelboy:
You are the ones saying he's omniscient and want him to be what you him to be. You can't control God.

If we are talking about general knowledge, he knows everything. He knows what the universe is made of, how everything happened, how life begin, what our bodies is made of, just name it.

But when it comes to our action, what will happen in the very next minute, he doesn't know.

I have told him this countless times but he is stuck to the teachings of Christendom churches and that's what he wants to use in judging everyone who believes the Bible.

This is what God told Abraham about Sodom and Gomorrah:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

About Abraham's faith God said:

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me" Genesis 22:12

From the two accounts does it show that God is what the churches of Christendom taught our friend?

But instead of him to rejoice that he has found the truth he is bitter!

WHY?

Because he's selfish so he wants to determine what God should be and do exactly what he wants as long as God doesn't turn out as he expected he's not only satisfied with being an atheist but to stop everyone else from having faith in God!

cornelboy:
You are the ones saying he's omniscient and want him to be what you him to be. You can't control God.

If we are talking about general knowledge, he knows everything. He knows what the universe is made of, how everything happened, how life begin, what our bodies is made of, just name it.

But when it comes to our action, what will happen in the very next minute, he doesn't know.

For example I could be going down the street tonight and see a prostitute, take her somewhere and have s3x with her or I might just ignore her temptation and please Jehovah.
God doesn't know and control these outcomes but he wants his people to do the right thing.

Do you think he knew Adam would sin and yet he still went ahead to create him? He could have created programmed robots.
Look at Satan for example, he rebelled and cause so much chaos in the world today. God wouldn't have created him in the first place.

So created us and gave us the free will to choose between good and bad. He had hope in Adam but Adam failed.
He still has hope in us today till today.
That's why he will save the good people in the future and destroy bad people.

In a nutshell, God has the ability to know the future but he doesn't control the future. He can use the ability whenever he wants to but he doesn't use it spontaneously and continuously.

Did you read any of the verses I posted from the bible? Or you just wanna be like Max who ignores other posts and spews whatever rubbish his brain tells him?

cornelboy:
Thank you.
And it seems very easy to be an atheist.
Every intelligence individual knows that there's a mastermind behind creation. Only the study of how our DNA work proves that. Even the nature surrounding us proves that.
Nothing can come out of nothing.

So if nothing can come out of nothing, where did Yahweh pop out from?

MaxInDHouse:
I have told him this countless times but he is stuck to the teachings of Christendom churches and that's what he wants to use in judging everyone who believes the Bible.

This is what God told Abraham about Sodom and Gomorrah:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

About Abraham's faith God said:

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me" Genesis 22:12

From the two accounts does it show that God is what the churches of Christendom taught our friend?

But instead of him to rejoice that he has found the truth he is bitter!

WHY?

Because he's selfish so he wants decide what God should be and do exactly what he wants as long as God doesn't turn out as he expected he's not only satisfied with being an atheist but to stop everyone else from having faith in God!

Please read those bible passages I posted on Yahweh being omniscient. Thank you

jaephoenix:
Please read those bible passages I posted on Yahweh being omniscient. Thank you

Ọmọ you're misconstruing everything and it's obvious you don't want to know the truth.

No verse tells you God is omniscient, He knows everything about His own program from start to finish but as regards what human will choose to do regarding righteousness He doesn't know.

That's why He told them:

‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that someone wicked changes his way and keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why should you die, O house of Israel?”’ Ezekiel 33:11

So man has the freewill to do good or evil just as Balaam did!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're misconstruing everything and it's obvious you don't want to know the truth.

No verse tells you God is omniscient, He knows everything about His own program from start to finish but as regards what human will choose to do regarding righteousness He doesn't know.

That's why He told them:

‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that someone wicked changes his way and keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why should you die, O house of Israel?”’ Ezekiel 33:11

So man has the freewill to do good or evil just as Balaam did!

Lemme oblige you and repost those verses again. Maybe you're dyslexic.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

What does Psalms mean by His understanding is infinite. What do you understand by the word 'infinite'?

In 1st John, the verse stated Yahweh knows all things. It didn't say he knows only about his creations. Even the other Psalms says before you utter a word, Yahweh knows it all, from what you're about to say or do(everything). Your whole anatomy, the stars etc are all laid bare(as stated by the other verses). He even knows the secret of our hearts, said Psalms 44. In fact every of your actions is noted. In fact, in Isaiah, Yahweh himself(not any prophets) stated he knows the beginning of the world to the end.
There is no limitations of his knowledge anywhere else. The only limitations comes from you and your gang.
Its unfortunate its an atheist that should explain the bible to a theist like a JW. Yahweh must be shaking his head in bemusement.

Nowhere in all these verses is "OMNISCIENT" mentioned!

So you should know that something is wrong with your interpretation.

Instead of quoting countless verses as directed by your white supremacists ATHEISTS do your own homework and pick just two or three you feel no believer can explain then present it and leave the rest to me.
Know that our understanding doesn't mean you must accept but a presentation of our own interpretation of what you quoted.

jaephoenix:
Lemme oblige you and repost those verses again. Maybe you're dyslexic.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

What does Psalms mean by His understanding is infinite. What do you understand by the word 'infinite'?

In 1st John, the verse stated Yahweh knows all things. It didn't say he knows only about his creations. Even the other Psalms says before you utter a word, Yahweh knows it all, from what you're about to say or do(everything). Your whole anatomy, the stars etc are all laid bare(as stated by the other verses). He even knows the secret of our hearts, said Psalms 44. In fact every of your actions is noted. In fact, in Isaiah, Yahweh himself(not any prophets) stated he knows the beginning of the world to the end.
There is no limitations of his knowledge anywhere else. The only limitations comes from you and your gang.
Its unfortunate its an atheist that should explain the bible to a theist like a JW. Yahweh must be shaking his head in bemusement.

MaxInDHouse:
Nowhere in all these verses is "OMNISCIENT" mentioned!

So you should know that something is wrong with your interpretation.

Instead of quoting countless verses as directed by your white supremacists ATHEISTS do your own homework and pick just two or three you feel no believer can explain then present it and leave the rest to me.
Know that our understanding doesn't mean you must accept but a presentation of our own interpretation of what you quoted.

Lol
1. Maybe you skipped kindergarten(which is highly possible considering your comprehension issues) but I learned the definition of omniscient. This is the definition
knowing everything
There was no mention of the words omnipotent or omnibenevolent in the bible. But you use those to attribute Yahweh don't you? Those words were later connotations that came up as language grew. They simply mean all powerful and all merciful, respectively. And those later 2 words all powerful and all merciful are replete in the Bible. Does it mean the words omnipotent and omnibenevolent are wrong? No.
Like I said, do your kindergarten. Learn Words and Synonyms and revert

2. Coming from a black man that receives his orders and instructions from 8 bald men in the US, this post of yours reeks of stupidity and ignorance at its finest.
And just so you know, there is no atheist Holy book or Bible. We get our morals from our conscience. No atheist would tell the other how to live his or her life, no matter how highly placed in the society he or she is. And definitely no atheist is a white supremacist. How you got that information, I wouldnt know. Maybe your Kingdom Hall pastor told you that just like they told you cholesterol is related to asthma and masturbators have mood swings. Lol

jaephoenix:
So if nothing can come out of nothing, where did Yahweh pop out from?

Oh I see. Your reasoning is so low 🤦🏾‍♂️
Some supernatural being was here all along without beginning and he created us to dominate the earth. We are the works of his hands.

He's the source of everything. There have to be a source.

The universe, creation, nature and everything is far more bigger than your tiny brain. It's like comparing a drop of water to an Ocean.

You're here asking where he came from really?
When I say nothing can't come from nothing, I was talking about that universe and life. God is the source.

jaephoenix:
Did you read any of the verses I posted from the bible? Or you just wanna be like Max who ignores other posts and spews whatever rubbish his brain tells him?

None of the verses say God sees and knows everything happening spontaneously and continuously all at once.
God won't feed himself with the evil going on in the world today.
He's more concerned about his people and the kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told him this countless times but he is stuck to the teachings of Christendom churches and that's what he wants to use in judging everyone who believes the Bible.

This is what God told Abraham about Sodom and Gomorrah:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

About Abraham's faith God said:

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me" Genesis 22:12

From the two accounts does it show that God is what the churches of Christendom taught our friend?

But instead of him to rejoice that he has found the truth he is bitter!

WHY?

Because he's selfish so he wants to determine what God should be and do exactly what he wants as long as God doesn't turn out as he expected he's not only satisfied with being an atheist but to stop everyone else from having faith in God!

Lol.
There was a day I was trying to explain to an atheist on Facebook that hell fire isn't real that hell is simply the grave. This guy started using the Bible to show me that it's real and he doesn't even believe in hell fire. He later started insulting me haha.

cornelboy:
Oh I see. Your reasoning is so low 🤦🏾‍♂️
Some supernatural being was here all along without beginning and he created us to dominate the earth. We are the works of his hands.

He's the source of everything. There have to be a source.

The universe, creation, nature and everything is far more bigger than your tiny brain. It's like comparing a drop of water to an Ocean.

You're here asking where he came from really?
When I say nothing can't come from nothing, I was talking about that universe and life. God is the source.

Cool. So Yahweh was here all along, right? So what stops the universe from being here all along? After all there is no evidence it was created

jaephoenix:
Cool. So Yahweh was here all along, right? So what stops the universe from being here all along? After all there is no evidence it was created

Really? You are asking me these?
Why should the universe be here all along?
Your question is totally invalid.