Ebubu3:
onye iberibe.

Onye nkwukwu

Ebubu3:


Isobo people are in Ikwo Local Government Ebonyi State and are officially recognised as indigenous to Ikwo Local Government Area, Ebonyi state.

Are you trying to tell me there are Cross River people in Ikwo Local Government, Ebonyi state?

Cross River na ethnic group??

Awka

Awka, Anambra

Awka

Awka.

Awka Anambra state capital

Awka

Some of the Industries in Awka

Awka, Anamabra state capital fastest developing city in Southeast

igbos prefer to die in motor accident while attempting to escape to the sw for greener pastures than stay here why?

useless economic refugees and illegal immigrants

PoloG:
igbos prefer to die in motor accident while attempting to escape to the sw for greener pastures than stay here why?

useless economic refugees and illegal immigrants

They're milking your lazy a.ss rapidly developing their region

TundeBricklayer:

They're milking your lazy a.ss rapidly developing their region

by hawking in traffics on our roads or selling okrika on pedestrian walkways?

PoloG:
by hawking in traffics on our roads or selling okrika on pedestrian walkways?

Same way your people are hawking selling agbo all over Southeast

Ebubu3:


Isobo people are in Ikwo Local Government Ebonyi State and are officially recognised as indigenous to Ikwo Local Government Area, Ebonyi state.

Are you trying to tell me there are Cross River people in Ikwo Local Government, Ebonyi state?

There are Cross river groups scattered in Ebonyi state. The Igbo migration northeastwards from the Awka-Orlu and Nsukka Igbo heartlands met them there and absorbed most of them. Those that were not completely absorbed completely to remain in pockets across Ebonyi.

TundeBricklayer:

Same way your people are hawking selling agbo all over Southeast

there are more igbo hawkers in Ibadan alone than all Yoruba's in SE put together

scholes0:

There are Cross river groups scattered in Ebonyi state. The Igbo migration northeastwards from the Awka-Orlu and Nsukka Igbo heartlands met them there and absorbed most of them. Those that were not completely absorbed completely to remain in pockets across Ebonyi.

what does this mean?

Ebubu3:
what does this mean?

The remnant of the upper cross river groups in Ebonyi that were not absorbed by the Mgbo, Ikwo, Ezaa and Izhi. That's what it means.
They are especially very numerous in Ikwo local government.

scholes0:


The remnant of the upper cross river groups in Ebonyi that were not absorbed by the Mgbo, Ikwo, Ezaa and Izhi. That's what it means.
They are especially very numerous in Ikwo local government.

so you’re saying Ebonyi and Upper cross river groups have inter-twined history and married together and that’s why Ebonyi Igbo is UNLIKE central igbo?

Ebubu3:
so you’re saying Ebonyi and Upper cross river groups have inter-twined history and married together and that’s why Ebonyi Igbo is UNLIKE central igbo?

Yes, to a good degree.
Read Adiele Afigbo's work circa 1987 titled "The Igbos and their neighbours" You will understand why the Isobo are not igbo but Mbembe that were pushed to the left bank of the cross river.

Moh248:


Foolish man leave eastern matter for easterners.

Assumpta Owerri.

Avoid Media propaganda

Chair this is Ala Owere to be highly specific..my beloved home..proudly Owere nshi ise

scholes0:


Yes, to a good degree.
Read Adiele Afigbo's work circa 1987 titled "The Igbos and their neighbours" You will understand why the Isobo are not igbo but Mbembe that were pushed to the left bank of the cross river.

do you have the pdf? The online sources are asking for ridiculous money

Maazieze:
Ebubu3 is a jobless hater who likes pretending to be igbo to sow discord and spread misinformation.
He heard small rumour related to ebonyi state and like the chameleon he is, pushed to inflate a non issue.

Everyone must be made aware of his deceit

Igbo bu igbo, otu mba!

Personally I won't respond to that demented Afonjas he goat and I will advice all Nwafor to Ignore him.

Cooly100:
Enugu from the hills...

One day the rising Sun will Fly proudly from that point and must surely happen in our life time..Amen.

ahaz:


Personally I won't respond to that demented Afonjas he goat and I will advice all Nwafor to Ignore him.

fool

scholes0:
Isobo people are not igbos. People should stop spreading what is obviously a fallacy.

They are Mbembe people with slight influence from Ezaa and Izhi due to contact.

Did you say slight influence?

The entire language is very clearly the same Ìgbò variant as that spoken by the Ezza-Ikwo-Izhi. The entire language. Of course with influence from Upper Cross River languages.

Isobo are not Mbembe. I don't know where you got that from. They have a Facebook page where they share elements of their language and culture from time to time. And the ones among them that I have interacted with identify with the larger Ìgbò family.

RedboneSmith:


Did you say slight influence?

The entire language is very clearly the same Ìgbò variant as that spoken by the Ezza-Ikwo-Izhi. The entire language. Of course with influence from Upper Cross River languages.

Isobo are not Mbembe. I don't know where you got that from. They have a Facebook page where they share elements of their language and culture from time to time. And the ones among them that I have interacted with identify with the larger Ìgbò family.

Most of their village wards have clearly cross-river like sounding Usomotong-esque names.. Their so called dialect is barely comprehensible to an average Igbo speaker if at all. Even to many 'Ebonyians'. So yes, it is indeed lateral acculturation.

scholes0:


Most of their village wards have clearly cross-river like sounding Usomotong-esque names.. Their so called dialect is barely comprehensible to an Igbo speaker. So yes, it is indeed lateral acculturation.

I am almost convinced it is Osopong that you're mistaking for Isobo.

Isobo language or dialect (I really don't care which it is called) is as incomprehensible to the central Igbo speaker as Ezza, Ikwo, Izhi and Mgbo is incomprehensible to the central Ìgbò speaker.

An Ikwo person and an Isobo person can communicate with minimal difficulties. In fact, their traditions state that they are an extension of Ikwo across the Enyim River (i.e., Cross River). Isobo language is demonstrably part of the Abakaliki linguistic cluster within the Igbo linguistic family.

Nobody argues about this connection. Not even the Isobo themselves. Like I said, you're probably confusing them with Osopong people.

scholes0:


Even to many 'Ebonyians'. So yes, it is indeed lateral acculturation.

Any Ebonyian who does not understand Isobo is not from the Abakaliki zone. Ebonyi is not one dialect. Edda doesn't speak like Ezza. And Ishielu doesn't speak like Afikpo. Isobo and the Abakaliki dialects belong to the same sub-cluster.

RedboneSmith:


I am almost convinced it is Osopong that you're mistaking for Isobo.

Isobo language or dialect (I really don't care which it is called) is as incomprehensible to the central Igbo speaker as Ezza, Ikwo, Izhi and Mgbo is incomprehensible to the central Ìgbò speaker.

An Ikwo person and an Isobo person can communicate with minimal difficulties. In fact, their traditions state that they are an extension of Ikwo across the Enyim River (i.e., Cross River). Isobo language is demonstrably part of the Abakaliki linguistic cluster within the Igbo linguistic family.

Nobody argues about this connection. Not even the Isobo themselves. Like I said, you're probably confusing them with Osopong people.

Actually it is the Agbo people I was confusing them with, not the Osopong, but the Osopong on the West bank of the cross have similar morphology too but are Mbembe, you are right.

RedboneSmith:


Any Ebonyian who does not understand Isobo is not from the Abakaliki zone. Ebonyi is not one dialect. Edda doesn't speak like Ezza. And Ishielu doesn't speak like Afikpo. Isobo and the Abakaliki dialects belong to the same sub-cluster.

You know history well well o. So what do you think is the case for why Abakaliki dialect cluster is not understandable to the Central Igbo ? Is it due to mixture with Northern Cross River dialects ? Do Idomas and Igala have influence on their dialects at all ?

Ebubu3:

You know history well well o. So what do you think is the case for why Abakaliki dialect cluster is not understandable to the Central Igbo ? Is it due to mixture with Northern Cross River dialects ? Do Idomas and Igala have influence on their dialects at all ?

Dialect divergence is a normal thing in history. For every large language group, the dialects on the fringes are going to show considerable differences from the dialects in the centre.

The thing to note is that despite the low level of mutual intelligibility between the Abakaliki cluster and the central dialects, lexical similarity between Abakaliki dialects and the central dialects is still over 80%.

Igala influence? None that I can tell.

Some influence from Idomoid and Upper Cross dialects, but that's minimal.

The thing that I have noticed about Abakaliki dialects is that the main reason why it sounds incomprehensible is the way they pronounce words, ie, their accents and inflections. That is why written Ezza is easier to understand by a central Igbo speaker than spoken Ezza.