NairaLTQ:

Pardon my error please

Quran 39.60
Qur'an 40:27
Quran 40:35
Qur'an 59:23
Corrected!

NairaLTQ:

The name of Allah Al-Adl" (العدل) takes care of justice or punishing wrong doing by Allah. This is different from Ad-Darr the bone of contention.

The term "Ad-Darr" (الضَّرّ) can be translated as "The Afflictor" or "the Harm" or "The Bringer of Adversity."


In ordinary day-to-day Arabic usage, the word "Darr" (ضرّ) refers to harm, damage, or adversity. It is a common term used to describe anything that causes negative effects, discomfort, or trouble. Darr in Arabic usage is ALWAYS used in negative connotation. So, in everyday Arabic conversation, "Darr" is used to refer to harm, damage, or any negative consequences.

Therefore, it is correct that Allah is one who causes Harm to people by his nature.

Ohyoudidnt:
See for yourself, in the example Q6:17 you give there are both بِضُرٍّ and بِخَيۡرٍ

"And if Allah should touch you with adversity, there is no remover of it except Him. And if He touches you with good - then He is over all things competent."

Why do you focus on the former as the name of Allah and ignore the latter? Is it hard for you to comprehend that Allah encompasses everything? You are quick to agree the Devil is bad and evil yet fail to acknowledge the supremacy of Allah that Devil can do norhing outside whay Allah allows.

If you agree that adversity results in distress then explain from your own book how this spirit of distress proceeds from your God?

1 Samuel 16:
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and a distressing spirit from the Lord troubled him.
15 And Saul’s servants said to him, Surely, a distressing spirit from God is troubling you.
16 Let our master now command your servants, who are before you, to seek out a man who is a skillful player on the harp. And it shall be that he will play it with his hand when the distressing spirit from God is upon you, and you shall be well.”

NairaLTQ:

Can you infer from this that God is a DISTRESSOR?

I gave a very simple analogy to express this:

A medical doctor can cause his patient great distress in the cause of his treatment : however, it doesn't make the Doctor a DISTRESSOR!


Any one who says God cannot cause distress for people is a LIAR and doesn't know the power of God.
However, the issue is that God by His nature is NOT a DISTRESSOR

Can God kill?
YES!
Is God a Killer?
NO!

This is the difference you refused to see!

God is NOT a DISTRESSOR!
God is NOT a BELIEVER
God is NOT ARROGANT!

These are not nature's of God!

Ohyoudidnt:
A whole 60% of what you typed was false/wrong and a sorry waste od time?

Anyway in those verse where the derivatives appear, are they in reference to God or the unbelievers?

In your desire to prove a point you loose track of your goal?

Ohyoudidnt:
Oh Please! It states distressing spirit from your God i.e the distressing spirit is part of your God or how does it come from your God?

You sure must disappoint yourself with such a no punch.

Enjoy your weekend and your life.

TenQ:
Who is this Person in such a Disguise?
Here are five Names I want us to look at today:
Why!?, because if such a person exist, he would be a very arrogant person whose aim is to mislead humanity and cause distress and harm to them through deceit and mischief which would lead to their ultimate and perpetual humiliation .

Example:
To kill a rat in the house, we mislead/deceive it to think that we are offering it free good-looking-delicious food because we care for it. Unfortunately, our objective at the end of the day that when the Rat takes our bait, it would go into a state of painful distress and sorrowful humiliating death

Seeing the similarity of the purpose of the stealing, killing and destruction, we can not help but assume that this being is Satan!


Name #1: "Al-Makir" = The Deceiver
Name #2: "Al-Fattan" = The Mischief-Maker
Name #3: "Al-Mutakabbir" = The Arrogant
Name #4: "Ad-Darr" = The Distresser/The One who Causes HARM
Name #5: "Al-Muzil" = The Misleader/The Humiliator


The Arabic Wikipedia article contains more than 10 different lists by various Islamic scholars. Some of those lists contain the name "Best of deceivers" (خير الماكرين). The lists together contain 276 names of Allah and one can comfortably assume that there are other lists with more names. So, even though 99 names are claimed, the names after collation are all together up to 276
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/أسماء_الله_الحسنى#اجتهادات_في_إحصاءها


Who is a Deceiver?
He is One who deliberately and habitually misleads another or others by a false appearance or statement, especially one who does so habitually
Example: A person who daily misleads people to Hell Fire by giving alternatives to the Truth of God

Who is a Mischief-Maker?
He is a person who deliberately and habitually creates trouble for others.
Example: A person who deliberately and habitually expresses hate for others by creating problems and pain for good people

Who is Arrogant?
He is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.
Example: Like a created being elevating himself to the statue of the Creator and Impersonating God

Who is a Distresser?
He is one who deliberately and habitually causes (someone/others) anxiety, sorrow, or pain. Sorrow is feeling of deep distress caused by loss, disappointment or misfortune suffered
Example: A person whose purpose is to habitually cause people anxiety, sorrow and pain in their lives

However, note the qualifying word "THE" before the "VERB"
It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
It is possible that a person mislead you without being "The Misleader/The Deceiver" e.g. Someone you asked for direction

The Qualifier "THE" imply that such has the nature of performing the action deliberately, innately, habitually.

There are Other names that belittle this personality so much but Muslims do not see it as derogatory for GOD.
المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23
We believe only when we have made a conclusion based on our judgment of highest probability.
For instance, we don't believe that 2+4=6. We know that 2+4=6.
Rather, we can believe that Russia would win the War against Ukraine or vice versa based on our estimation of probabilities.
Does God work by a game of probabilities or by knowing the past, present and future?



Questions:
1. Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.
2. Why do you think that God is a Believer ? Do you agree that we take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future?
3. If God is the author of Distress , why do we attribute our problems to Satan?
4. Why do you think that the objective of God is to Humiliate us if he actually commanded even the Angels to bow to man?
5. Did Muhammed know what Allah would do to him? If he doesnt as the one showing you the way, can you be sure he has not been deceived?
6. How are you sure that the Greatest of all Deceivers has no decieved you from the way of truth?



Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Ohyoudidnt:
Oh how the castle crumbled.
The Distressing spirit proceeds from the God in the Bible- 1Samuel 16: 14-16
P.S watch the Arrivals part 36

Ohyoudidnt:
It now seems obvious you don't understand the God you worship.

1 Samuel 16 reads:
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and a distressing spirit from the Lord troubled him.
15 And Saul’s servants said to him, “Surely, a distressing spirit from God is troubling you.
16 Let our master now command your servants, who are before you, to seek out a man who is a skillful player on the harp. And it shall be that he will play it with his hand when the distressing spirit from God is upon you, and you shall be well.”


How is this distressing spirit from the lord, from God and from God not God?

NairaLTQ:

Is the distressing spirit God?
You can't escape this

Why is your God the Arrogant?
Why is your God theBeliever?
Why is your God the Distressor?

Arrogant to Who?
Who is he believing in?
Why is his nature to distress?

Ohyoudidnt:
@SirTee15 on the side did you watch the Arrivals seaaon? Take a look at Part 36

Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah right.

Point is this distressing spirit proceeds from the lord or us this God?

This spirit proceeds from God like the holy spirit that's also God?

Where exactly does Allah instruct to bow down and worship a black stone? This must be your fantasy.

Ohyoudidnt:
Keep fooling yourself. com

SIRTee15:


I'm not a fan of season movies, unnecessary plot drag isn't my thing.
If there's anything in the arrival season that pertain to what we discussing here, say it and we will dissect it.

Allah is not YAHWEH
THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IS THE PROOF


You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God,

Ohyoudidnt:
Keep fooling yourself. com

NairaLTQ:

You should ask Mohammed because several billions of Muslims daily bow down facing the black stone in the kaaba. And you all struggle to kiss or touch it that the stones may remember you on the day of judgement!


Exactly the same reason you can't answer elementary questions without running into trouble.

Why is your God the Arrogant?
Why is your God theBeliever?
Why is your God the Distressor?

Arrogant to Who?
Who is he believing in?
Why is his nature to distress?

Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah right.

Point is this distressing spirit proceeds from the lord or us this God?

This spirit proceeds from God like the holy spirit that's also God?

Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah right.
Where exactly does Allah instruct to bow down and worship a black stone? This must be your fantasy.

Ohyoudidnt:
Just watch the clip it shouldn't take more than 20 minutes.

Ohyoudidnt:


No muslim worships an image.

SIRTee15:


Sorry, not interested. I'm more interested in opening your eyes to the truth.



That's a lie. Muslims bow down to the black stone.

Now what does the bible say about bowing down to stones?

‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
Lev 26.1

Any religion that tells u to bow down to a black stone is not from God.
A god that needs u to bow down to a black stone for whatever reason is not the God of the bible- YAHWEH.

Musa95:




Mashallah brother you did justice to it. I was getting ready to answer but you said my mind. Alhamdullillah. If he can't comprehend your reply, leave him alone and may Allah guide him to the truth.

Bakrabas:



Can I know your faith so that I'll know if you deserve to get my response?

NairaLTQ:

They hope for the intercession of a black stone that has been broken into pebbles for intercession on the day of judgement

They kiss it as they would kiss their prophet Muhammad : that this stone will remember them for good on the day of judgement.

The face the stone to pray their five daily prayers (but they would accuse the Catholics of Idolatory)

The stone had been part of Idolatory even before the birth of Mohammed. Anything that would bring people to the Religion of Mohammed is welcome.

The stone has the power to erase their sins: is this not Idolatory!?

NairaLTQ:

Do You want me to go with your preferred Narrative rather than what the simple texts says?

1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant

2. المذل Al-Mudhil lead astray or cause to err.

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser"

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer


These are the names you give Allah aren't they?

Bakrabas:


Jazakhumullahu Khairan for this, I'll stop disturbing myself.

NairaLTQ:

Are you responding to this


I am a Christian who years ago almost recited the shahada in my 200L. My main monika is TenQ but I received a ban yesterday night. This is temporary

gaskiyamagana:


It is narrative of Allah, Who created you and with what He gave you of reasoning that you are using negatively against Him, sent message of Q3:7 on whatever form of your misrepresentation, misinterpretation and misleading assumption. Those who are worse than you in disbelieving existed during the time of prophets Muhammad (saw) and the verse (Q3:7) and the likes of it were revealed to him. In other words, you are not the first, not the best and can never be the last in obstinate disbelief of Allah, lslam and Muhammad (saw).

gaskiyamagana:

You forgot to add that you are anti-islam roboticalized reasoning, thinking and arguing person.