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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:58am On Sep 03, 2023
Courz:
See? He has nothing to say. Hahahahahaha


Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master aka Janonsense, went to Google to prove something to us. He said Since Angels are messengers of God, Jesus is also a messenger of God. Therefore, Jesus is an Angel. But Mumu Janosky forgot that Men of Old in the Bible were also messengers of God. And anyone Preaching about Almighty God and Jesus is also a Messenger as well. So, the question to Mumu Janosky is, are these people above also Angels?

Mumu Janosky, keep digging your grave with these useless points. You are helping our argument o. I love it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


ACOURZD IBERIBEIST DECEIVING HIMSELF.
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[i]H4397 - mal'āḵ - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (esv) - Blue Letter Bible
www.blueletterbible.org › esv › wlc
מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or ...
Strongs's #4397: mal'ak - Greek/Hebrew Definitions - Bible Tools
www.bibletools.org › Lexicon.show › m...
an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):--ambassador, angel, king, messenger. Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: mal'âk. 1) messenger, representative."
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 10:00am On Sep 03, 2023
oteneaaron:
Their greatest enemy are their own publications.

When we bring the proof of the publication, they will switch to their default mode - lying and more lying.
Na that denial I like pass by saying the screenshot is not from them. Who cares about where the screenshot comes from? grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 10:01am On Sep 03, 2023
advocatejare:
grin

Your Sifia pains, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Ozuo pro max.
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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 10:16am On Sep 03, 2023
I even had to screenshot the whole page of the book with page number. A book so popular that was made to look as if the Bible will become useless as long as that book exist. Yet one unreasonable, brain fiiled with fufu peddler said it was made up and fabricated to save his lying mouth and manipulated brains filled with fufu.

grin grin grin

You will comeback and defend your fabrications as handed to you by your GODS what they called our SPIRITUAL HERITAGE grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz:
achorladey:
Come here Aemmyjah and see your lies and manipulations exposed once again like your brothers in Jehovah. grin grin grin grin


Cc: Courz
advocatejare
Emusan
Oteneaaron


You must restate here that the publication screenshot is a fabrication. Should you change your mouth and speak something else. You 100% confirm yourself a liar and a manipulator. You also show indeed 100% that your brains are filled with FUFU the reason you are too weak to research your religious publication grin grin grin grin
achorladey, let me help you out to expose their foolishness. They think they can scrub off their history. They think people are so stupid to fall for their fraud. We are here to finish them today.

Mad MaxInDHouse, Mumu Janosky, Prosper1912 and Fornicator Aemmyjah the biggest mumu out of them all, oya come and debunk this Watchtower publication. These screenshots are straight from the original Watchtower publication called The Finished Mystery. Since your brain cells are clearly not working and you are too lazy to research your publications, here are the shots from the publication.

Fornicator Aemmyjah with his Maggot infested brain and Mumu Janosky were up there boasting of being able to research. How come they couldn't find this Watchtower publication?

Oya, Foolish JWs, come and debunk this publication. You must prove to us that Watchtower never published this.

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:41pm On Sep 03, 2023
Mumu Mad MaxInDHouse, Mumu Janosky, Fornicator Aemmyjah, come and debunk this Watchtower publication, March 1st 1918. You must provide evidence to prove that Watchtower has nothing to do with this publication.

Mumu JWs, come and debunk the 2nd shot claiming that Charles Taze Russell is the voice mentioned in the cited verse of the Book of Revelations.

Mumu JWs, Watchtower also claimed in the 3rd shot and 4th shot that Charles Taze Russell is the Seventh Angel mentioned in the Book of Revelations.

Come and debunk it and let's see your stupidity displayed to the world.

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 12:44pm On Sep 03, 2023
Courz:
achorladey, let me help you out to expose their foolishness. They think they can scrub off their history. They think people are so stupid to fall for their fraud. We are here to finish them today.

Mad MaxInDHouse, Mumu Janosky, Prosper1912 and Fornicator Aemmyjah the boggest mumu out of them all, oya come and debunk this Watchtower publication. Theae screenshots are straight from the original Watchtower publication called The Finished Mystery. Since your brain cells arw clearly not working and you arw too lazy to research your publications, here are the shots from the publications.

Fornicator Aemmyjah with his Maggot infested brain and Mumu Janosky were up there boasting of being able to research. How come they couldn't find this Watchtower publication?

Oya, Foolish JWs, come and debunk this publication. You must prove to us that Watchtower never published this.
It is that blatant denial of the works and publications of their GODS that is interesting for me. I will keep reminding them about it.


They will come back and say the screenshot is not from Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:47pm On Sep 03, 2023
Mad MaxInDHouse, Mumu Janosky and Fornicator Aemmyjah, come and debunk this one. You must prove to us that Watchtower has nothing to do with this publication. Oya!!

2nd and 3rd shots are showing Watchtower calling Charles Taze Russell The Faithful and Wise/Discreet Slave and The Laodicean messenger.

Last shot is showing Watchtower claiming that Charles Taze Russell is dead but Speaking again.

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz:
Mumu MaxInDHouse, Mumu Janosky and Fornicator Aemmyjah, come and debunk this below. You must prove to all of us that Watchtower has nothing to do with it.

The 2nd to the last shot is even talking about the destruction of Churches and how Russell will play a role in it.

Last shot is showing Watchtower claiming that Though Charles Taze Russell is dead but he is controlling every feature of the Harvest work/Preaching work of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society which he formed to finish his work. It even calls Watchtower Bible and Tract Society an Angel mentioned in Revelations same way they called Russell the Seventh Angel. grin

This is why your God The Governing body still repeated the same thing by saying that Russell started the work and he is still directing the Organisation on the path of Righteousness. Oya, debunk it!

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:06pm On Sep 03, 2023
achorladey:
It is that blatant denial of the works and publications of their GODS that is interesting for me. I will keep reminding them about it.


They will come back and say the screenshot is not from Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin
They can deny all they want I don't care. Their denial will show people that they are a Fraud! Their denial is already helping us. The whole world will see it and can't deny it.. If they like, let them bury their heads in sand. Whether they like it or not, their Satanic Founder is still running their Cult according to Watchtower. There is nothing they can do. Let them go and fight with Watchtower as to why Watchtower is still receiving messages from Russell which explains their many false prophecies and changing doctrines. A dead man is still running that Cult. You know what that means. Demonic inspiration. That's why their doctrines are dead every few years.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:31pm On Sep 03, 2023
Courz:
Mumu MaxInDHouse
Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse
Courz:
Mumu Mad MaxInDHouse,
Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse
It seems you don't understand what i'm telling you so i will make it simpler now:

No matter what you think, say or do about my religion as long as you can't present yours for me to compare and contrast so as to choose between yours and mine i will forever remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So your worries all over this forum won't change anything unless you present your own religion and mind you it must be a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:36pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Bunch of rubbish I just typed
Mumu MaxInDHouse, Go and debunk the publication I posted. Debunk it and prove to everyone reading that Watchtower has nothing to do with it. Prove with evidence o. Oya Osiso!
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Myer(m): 1:39pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It seems you don't understand what i'm telling you so i will make it simpler now:

No matter what you think, say or do about my religion as long as you can't present yours for me to compare and contrast so as to choose between yours and mine i will forever remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So your worries all over this forum won't change anything unless you present your own religion and mind you it must be a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!
This is a good answer.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:41pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It seems you don't understand what i'm telling you so i will make it simpler now:

No matter what you think, say or do about my religion as long as you can't present yours for me to compare and contrast so as to choose between yours and mine i will forever remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So your worries all over this forum won't change anything unless you present your own religion and mind you it must be a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Change the rules of the game in the middle of the match grin grin grin grin

The intention was not to make comparison. You are the one looking for better performing performance group all over nairaland when we already know your religious organization are very much like those you love to condemn from morning till night like your GODS have been doing since the existence of the organization grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:44pm On Sep 03, 2023
Courz:
Mumu MaxInDHouse, Go and debunk the publication I posted. Debunk it and prove to everyone reading that Watchtower has nothing to do with it. Prove with evidence o. Oya Osiso!
He simply cannot. The only thing he can do like the others is to lie, deny and manipulate the evidence by tagging it we hate Jesus or hate their religious organization
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:46pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
This is a good answer.
The reality here is that the intention of the post and thread had nothing to do with comparison but to expose the lies and manipulations that they say they don't do.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:49pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
This is a good answer.
What really baffles me is how i told these guys my journey regarding religion.

I was a Muslim before Jehovah's Witnesses came to present their religion, i compared what i had with what they brought and chose the one that's performing better from my own personal opinion.

So if anyone is now saying anything against Jehovah's Witnesses let them know that i have heard a lot about Islam but nothing moved me until i found a better performing organization therefore it's only the better one that can make sense to me not all these STORY STORY STORY! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Myer(m): 1:49pm On Sep 03, 2023
achorladey:
The reality here is that the intention of the post and thread had nothing to do with comparison but to expose the lies and manipulations that they say they don't do.
I understand. I lost interest in the thread when I realised Max and the other JW members were being evasive.
It's pointless engaging with such.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Myer(m): 1:51pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
What really baffles me is how i told these guys my journey regarding religion.

I was a Muslim before Jehovah's Witnesses came to present their religion, i compared what i had with what they brought and chose the one that's performing better from my own personal opinion.

So if anyone is now saying anything against Jehovah's Witnesses let them know that i have heard a lot about Islam but nothing moved me until i found a better performing organization therefore it's only the better one that can make sense to me not all these STORY STORY STORY! smiley
But you can still answer simple questions in honesty about JW without being evasive.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:51pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
I understand. I lost interest in the thread when I realised Max and the other JW members were being evasive.
It's pointless engaging with such.
Thanks
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:53pm On Sep 03, 2023
achorladey:
The reality here is that the intention of the post and thread had nothing to do with comparison but to expose the lies and manipulations that they say they don't do.
The one and only intention of this thread is to know who founded the group called Jehovah's Witnesses!

I promised to enlighten the OP about the real meaning of the word FOUNDER and afterwards prove to him that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses.

This has been resolved so anything afterwards is just STORY STORY STORY! wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:54pm On Sep 03, 2023
Janosky:


ACOURZD IBERIBEIST DECEIVING HIMSELF.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[i]H4397 - mal'āḵ - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (esv) - Blue Letter Bible
www.blueletterbible.org › esv › wlc
מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or ...
Strongs's #4397: mal'ak - Greek/Hebrew Definitions - Bible Tools
www.bibletools.org › Lexicon.show › m...
an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):--ambassador, angel, king, messenger. Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: mal'âk. 1) messenger, representative."
Yes O. Mumu Janosky every man of old in the Bible is an Angel. Your Satanic Founder Charles Taze Russell is an Angel, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society called themselves An Angel, People Preaching the word of God are Angels. Therefore, all these people above are now Spirit beings. - Above statements made by Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master aka Janonsense.

Stupidity at its peak. No Bible verse to prove the above statements made by Mumu Janosky. No wonder your fellow JWS denied you guys on this thread. You are all a Disgrace! 😀
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 1:55pm On Sep 03, 2023
Janosky:
That screenshot is NOT from JWs.

Copy and paste MUMU
. grin
Is from where?

Your gods say they are not inspired and Jesus didn't promise them perfect spiritual food.

So can you list those imperfect spiritual food they were already dished and you people swallowed? cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:55pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
But you can still answer simple questions in honesty about JW without being evasive.
The purpose of this thread has been met so if anyone wants to bring something different in then we must discuss like interaction not like you asking me questions while you won't answer me when i ask you! wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Myer(m): 1:58pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The purpose of this thread has been met so if anyone wants to bring something different in then we must discuss like interaction not like you asking me questions while you won't answer me when i ask you! wink
What do you think is the purpose of the thread?
What questions did you ask that were not answered?

We can all agree to answer one another honestly.

Truth is what sets one free. The challenge is usually when we hide the truth for one reason or the other.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey:
MaxInDHouse:
What really baffles me is how i told these guys my journey regarding religion.

I was a Muslim before Jehovah's Witnesses came to present their religion, i compared what i had with what they brought and chose the one that's performing better from my own personal opinion.

So if anyone is now saying anything against Jehovah's Witnesses let them know that i have heard a lot about Islam but nothing moved me until i found a better performing organization therefore it's only the better one that can make sense to me not all these STORY STORY STORY! smiley
Me I know you when you started your manipulations by stating that all religion should be united under one body or organisation like that carry over Muslim teaching and tenets grin grin grin.


The next is for you to start selling and marketing the religious organization of Jehovah witnesses as the only religious organization that are united or uniting people, boasting about your study and bible study conductor when the reality you and I know. It is a grand fraud. Every Wednesday announcement are made all over the world that Mr Lagbaja or Tamedu is no longer one of Jehovah’s witness.

How can members be leaving every week and someone comes to manipulate and lie that they are united. How?

And you want to come and sell that united lies and manipulations here when we know it does not exist. Down the yes after you were baptized and became a ministerial servant you typed with your own fingers that your religious organization are sinners like every other religious organization, they are influenced by the devil. They have hypocrite filled membership and members are looked with suspicious eyes.

No one forced you to utter the reality we already know yet you come here with over three different monikers with post or comments amounting to 100,000 thousands to perpetrate your lies and manipulations about your false united religious organization.

How will you (MaxInDHouse) explain the unity when a principal member of one of your congregation saying a man shouldn't have married from this or that family or this or that tribe and you are here selling me UNITED. Mock and false unity based on lies, manipulations and fear of been stoned by your GODS through disfellowshipping and shunning policies
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 2:08pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
But you can still answer simple questions in honesty about JW without being evasive.
Please understand that it is not in the nature of JWs to answer simple questions in a straight forward manner. They twist and turn words and divert discussions to something else. Why? Because the Truth is not in them and they are afraid of facing it, admitting. Admitting truth goes against the Tenets of the Cult. The Cult itself does the same. So expect its members to exhibit the same character.

Look at the way they were denying their founder whereas their organisation Watchtower views him as an Angel, a higher being. In fact, a god. I posted screenshots of their publication that was admitting that Russell is still controlling their Cult. Now, Mad MaxInDHouse can't say anything because he can't deny evidence.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:09pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
What do you think is the purpose of the thread?
What questions did you ask that were not answered?

We can all agree to answer one another honestly.

Truth is what sets one free. The challenge is usually when we hide the truth for one reason or the other.
It's not about what i think but what really led to this thread!

Advocatejare always talk about Muslims and i have once told him it's of no use because Christ taught his disciples to present the Good News of God's kingdom only that's what no religion has. But ever since then he started insulting me so i avoided him still he will follow me from thread to thread questioning me about my religion so i told him if both of us are claiming Christians then you must present your church to compare with mine. He refused so i ignored him.

Then a friend of mine (zoer) commented on his thread so i explained (quoting my friend) that the God of Abraham has no business with Muhammad going by what the Bible say.

Only for Advocatejare to start insulting me again so i told him not to worry because i only spoke for my own God so he can continue speaking for his own.

Then he was talking about Charles Taze Russell being the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization that's why i told him not to derail the thread but if he truthfully wants to know who founded Jehovah's Witnesses organization he should start another thread so we can discuss better.

That's what brought about this thread.
I have proved that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization so if anyone feels like discussing with me further then it should be a friendly discussion of comparing what you have with mine! wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Myer(m): 2:19pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's not about what i think but what really led to this thread!

Advocatejare always talk about Muslims and i have once told him it's of no use because Christ taught his disciples to present the Good News of God's kingdom only that's what no religion has. But ever since then he started insulting me so i avoided him still he will follow me from thread to thread questioning me about my religion so i told him if both of us are claiming Christians then you must present your church to compare with mine. He refused so i ignored him.

Then a friend of mine (zoer) commented on his thread so i explained (quoting my friend) that the God of Abraham has no business with Muhammad going by what the Bible say.

Only for Advocatejare to start insulting me again so i told him not to worry because i only spoke for my own God so he can continue speaking for his own.

Then he was talking about Charles Taze Russell being the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization that's why i told him not to derail the thread but if he truthfully wants to know who founded Jehovah's Witnesses organization he should start another thread so we can discuss better.

That's what brought about this thread.
I have proved that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization so if anyone feels like discussing with me further then it should be a friendly discussion of comparing what you have with mine! wink
Thanks for patiently honoring me with the background. I really appreciate.

1. Islam vs Christianity discourse is often emotionally charged but we must learn to bring our emotions under control when seeking the Truth.
I don't know if you've read my thread concerning Judaism, Christianity and Islam all being from the same Torah/Pentateich, leading to Father Abraham/Ibrahim and simply in disagreement primarily concerning the promised child (Islam) and invariably Jesus Christ (Judaism and IIslam).

2. Concerning your founder, I don't believe you have answered who the founder is. You have simply said Jehovah is the founder.

3. It is your prerogative to answer or not but please there is no need to be evasive. You can as well let us know you're not comfortable with the question.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 2:19pm On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The one and only intention of this thread is to know who founded the group called Jehovah's Witnesses!

I promised to enlighten the OP about the real meaning of the word FOUNDER and afterwards prove to him that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses.

This has been resolved so anything afterwards is just STORY STORY STORY! wink
The reality of the thread and the intention of the post and thread had nothing to do with comparison but to expose the lies and manipulations that they say they don't do which has to do with Jehovah’s witnesses don't have a founder yet you went ahead to tell us Russell sold what he formed to Jesus


Compare with the below you typed earlier

No matter what you think, say or do about my religion as long as you can't present yours for me to compare and contrast so as to choose between yours and mine i will forever remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 2:30pm On Sep 03, 2023
advocatejare created this thread to know from the mouth of JWs who their founder is. Lo and behold, one JW said Jehovah, another one said Jesus and explained that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell. I asked if Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell and is now running it, how come they don't follow Jesus? advocatejare asked Mad MaxInDHouse for the evidence of the transaction details. We have been waiting for the evidence since 1914. Since then, they have been bringing up other needless discussions because it was obvious we were exposing their lies. They brought different topics and still we shamed them.

We EXJWs showed who the founder truly is and what Watchtower truly thinks of their founder. achorladey brought up evidence to prove that Watchtower idolises Charles Taze Russell. The JWS said the evidence has nothing to do with them and therefore fabricated.

I then brought the Watchtower publication gan gan gan and exposed their foolishness. The JWs want to run away. Isn't Almighty God wonderful?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34pm On Sep 03, 2023
Myer:
Thanks for patiently honoring me with the background. I really appreciate.

1. Islam vs Christianity discourse is often emotionally charged but we must learn to bring our emotions under control when seeking the Truth.
I don't know if you've read my thread concerning Judaism, Christianity and Islam all being from the same Torah/Pentateich, leading to Father Abraham/Ibrahim and simply in disagreement primarily concerning the promised child (Islam) and invariably Jesus Christ (Judaism and IIslam).

2. Concerning your founder, I don't believe you have answered who the founder is. You have simply said Jehovah is the founder.

3. It is your prerogative to answer or not but please there is no need to be evasive. You can as well let us know you're not comfortable with the question.
First of all what is your own definition of the word FOUNDER? smiley
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