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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 1:23pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I keep asking you to quote where i said innocence is equal to sinless but you're just arguing blindly! cheesy
I said you lied!

Innocent /= Sinless

Whereas Watchtower and Dictionary said it is.

Simple comprehension is lacking here cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
I said you lied!

Innocent /= Sinless

Whereas Watchtower and Dictionary said it is.

Simple comprehension is lacking here cheesy grin cheesy grin
Please quote where WATCHTOWER explicitly say "innocence is equal to sinless"

That's all! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 1:37pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Please quote where WATCHTOWER explicitly say "innocence is equal to sinless"

That's all! smiley
I've done that before!

Check previous post cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 1:46pm On Sep 15, 2023
achorladey:
It was after reading again after you quoted him, his comments sink.

I no too put mind a first since I know his mumu and gibberish peddling no get rival. grin grin grin
You'll see how he will begin to jump from verse to verse just to confuse himself more on that cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
I've done that before!
Check previous post cheesy grin cheesy grin
If you can't just repost it now then i'll conclude you're just lying! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:06pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If you can't just repost it now then i'll conclude you're just lying! smiley
It's your conclusion!

But the evidence is there.

Or were you blind when I posted it? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:07pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
It's your conclusion!

But the evidence is there.

Or are you blind when I posted it? cheesy grin cheesy grin
It cost you nothing to post it now that i'm asking because if it's your stupid clinching you will post it a million times.

So stop beating about the bush just post where God's organization said
"innocence is equal to sinless" cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:31pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It cost you nothing to post it now that i'm asking because if it's your stupid clinching you will post it a million times.
Pressure till wa grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

But you already said it's your conclusion

So stop beating about the bush just post where God's organization said
"innocence is equal to sinless" cheesy
I have done that before.

Were you blind when I first posted it?

If you didn't see it that time what is the assurance that you'll see it now? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 3:59pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I keep asking you to quote where i said innocence is equal to sinless but you're just arguing blindly! cheesy
No evidence cool
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 4:00pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
No evidence cool
What does it mean to be sinless?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 4:10pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
What does it mean to be sinless?
Babies are SIN-LESS. Yes or No?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:52pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Babies are SIN-LESS. Yes or No?
Answer my question first!

Why simple question is so hard for you people to answer?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 8:09pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
The color part is what I want you to know.

Not that Bible says Babies are God's enemies but just to massage the brainwashed followers egos of those gods in Warwick is the reason for all these.



And your Babies who are Jehovah enemies will be spear

Double standard bullshit

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy



Now you're talking which means it's not that babies are God's enemies but God visiting the iniquity of the parents on their children. DEU 5:9



But your babies will be spear because their enmity is different from nonjws ones cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

We know the gist wink wink
I don't know what you mean by spear lol but God will not destroy the babies of his people undecided undecided
It he were to destroy the world today only the wicked and their babies would perish.

That doesn't change the fact that all babies are born sinners and hence they are God's enemies.
All humans are born sinners and our lives start from baby. So babies no matter what they become in the future are sinners undecided undecided
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 8:36pm On Sep 15, 2023
cornelboy:
I don't know what you mean by spear lol
Then check your dictionary.

but God will not destroy the babies of his people undecided undecided
because the Babies are not His enemies again

We understand cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

It he were to destroy the world today only the wicked and their babies would perish.
Of course, we know where the narration is tending towards. cheesy grin cheesy grin

That doesn't change the fact that all babies are born sinners and hence they are God's enemies.
Reason you can't provide just single verse to support your claim.

All humans are born sinners and our lives start from baby.
No! Our lives start from embryo. grin cheesy grin cheesy

So babies no matter what they become in the future are sinners undecided undecided
We're not talking about WHAT THEY BECOME IN THE FUTURE.

Babies know no wrong or right says YOU. grin cheesy grin grin

Your deluded brother says Babies ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, so know the difference. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:22pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
No evidence cool
Ọmọ i wonder how someone could be lying against me yet accusing me upon the lie o! huh

I told him innocence doesn't mean sinless but he's desperately looking for how to force his thought on God's people. cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 9:31pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i wonder how someone could be lying against me yet accusing me upon the lie o! huh

I told him innocence doesn't mean sinless but he's desperately looking for how to force his thought on God's people. cheesy
He's desperate for the attention

I deliberately used the word INNOCENT to lead them on
They fell for it
Now they accuse you
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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
He's desperate for the attention
I deliberately used the word INNOCENT to lead them on
They fell for it
Now they accuse you
grin
It's understandable but insisting i'm the one who said it?

Well i now understand that they're just arguing for strife they have nothing to offer. smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 9:59pm On Sep 15, 2023
Emusan:
Then check your dictionary.



because the Babies are not His enemies again

We understand cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy



Of course, we know where the narration is tending towards. cheesy grin cheesy grin



Reason you can't provide just single verse to support your claim.



No! Our lives start from embryo. grin cheesy grin cheesy



We're not talking about WHAT THEY BECOME IN THE FUTURE.

Babies know no wrong or right says YOU. grin cheesy grin grin

Your deluded brother says Babies ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, so know the difference. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
I don't want to argue fruitlessly with you.
Everyone is a sinner until we are made right with God through Jesus Christ.
We all inherited sin, sinful nature, imperfection and death from Adam right from the moment we were conceived.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:58am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
What does it mean to be sinless?
Sinless means without sin.

David said even the babies inside their mother's wombs are SINNERS! Psalms 51:5

All babies are sinners (ENEMIES of God) until God's laws are inculcated in them that's what makes them God's friends. Deuteronomy 6:6-7

So when you read about an Israelite talking about their young ones being heritage from God know that it's because they have what it takes to make their children God's friends not that all babies are God's heritage otherwise they wouldn't have killed all babies in Amalek because that will be tantamount to destroying God's heritage! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 7:08am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
Answer my question first!

Why simple question is so hard for you people to answer?
Sin-less means without sin, perfect, pure, spotless.

Now, are babies sinless or not? Yes or No?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 7:10am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
Then check your dictionary.



because the Babies are not His enemies again

We understand cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy



Of course, we know where the narration is tending towards. cheesy grin cheesy grin



Reason you can't provide just single verse to support your claim.



No! Our lives start from embryo. grin cheesy grin cheesy



We're not talking about WHAT THEY BECOME IN THE FUTURE.

Babies know no wrong or right says YOU. grin cheesy grin grin

Your deluded brother says Babies ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, so know the difference. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Were you not the one that quoted what the Bible said about babies of believers being sanctified?
You not only shoot yourself on the foot but all over your body

What merit does a baby build with God?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:08am On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Were you not the one that quoted what the Bible said about babies of believers being sanctified?
You not only shoot yourself on the foot but all over your body

What merit does a baby build with God?
Provide where I said the @bold
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:10am On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
He's desperate for the attention

I deliberately used the word INNOCENT to lead them on
They fell for it
Now they accuse you
grin
Lying liar!

I've used that word INNOCENT as what Bible says before you even think of joining with COMPLETELY INNOCENT cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 10:14am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
Provide where I said the @bold
My bad
Either you or achorladey said so


Now my question

Are babies sinless? Yes or No?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:15am On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Sinless means without sin.
So which sin do Babies commit?

David said even the babies inside their mother's wombs are SINNERS! Psalms 51:5
No! David only acknowledge his own conception NOT ALL BABIES.

All babies are sinners (ENEMIES of God)
You've been repeating this lie but no evidence from the scripture.

until God's laws are inculcated in them that's what makes them God's friends. Deuteronomy 6:6-7
And SIN is to break God's law, so how can babies sinned when GOD'S LAWS haven't been INCULCATED in them, talk less of BREAKING the Laws?

So when you read about an Israelite talking about their young ones being heritage from God know that it's because they have what it takes to make their children God's friends not that all babies are God's heritage otherwise they wouldn't have killed all babies in Amalek because that will be tantamount to destroying God's heritage! smiley
All babies are INNOCENT.

That's why Bible admonished believers to be Like them.

And Jesus said such are the kingdom of God for.

So your leaders lied against Holy scripture, babies aren't God's enemies.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:17am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
No! David only acknowledge his own conception NOT ALL BABIES.
So what sin did David commit in his mother's womb? smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 10:18am On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So what sin did David commit in his mother's womb? smiley
Pls ask him for us grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:21am On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Sin-less means without sin, perfect, pure, spotless.
Now that you agreed with this, this is also Watchtower understanding about THE DEFINITION OF INNOCENT.

Scripture says Babies are INNOCENT 1 Corin 14:20

According to Watchtower innocent means PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c

ENGLISH Dictionary also defines INNOCENT as SINLESS.

You also agreed that BABIES ARE INNOCENT.

So is INNOCENT= SINLESS?

OR do you want to change your stand that Babies are not INNOCENT again?

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

He has rope himself.

Now, are babies sinless or not? Yes or No?
Babies are INNOCENT and since you agreed that to be sinless is to be PURE, SPOTLESS (BLAMELESS) then Yes! Babies are sinless.

cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22am On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Pls ask him for us grin
They're just stupid that's it.

David a servant and prophet of God was inspired to say it's in sin that he was conceived in his mother's womb and most churchgoers he called Christians often recite this Psalms like "our father" yet he wants to say that's only applicable to David.
Walahi talahi they just want to argue blindly! cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:23am On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So what sin did David commit in his mother's womb? smiley
Olodo did David say he committed any sin IN THE WOMB?

He said "IN SIN I WAS CONCEIVED"

He didn't said "I COMMITTED SIN WHILE I WAS IN THE WOMB" grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 10:24am On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
My bad
Either you or achorladey said so
And you still put "ME" in it

cheesy grin cheesy grin

Now my question

Are babies sinless? Yes or No?
I've answered that cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25am On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
Olodo did David say he committed any sin IN THE WOMB?

He said "IN SIN I WAS CONCEIVED"

He didn't said "I COMMITTED SIN WHILE I WAS IN THE WOMB" grin cheesy grin cheesy
So what is the meaning of that statement? smiley

Perhaps you need to meditate on the whole chapter of Psalms 51 to grasp that David was talking about his own sin so how does that relate to his conception if it has nothing to do with David being the sinner o? smiley
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