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Aemmyjah:
My bad
Either you or achorladey said so


Now my question

Are babies sinless? Yes or No?

Aemmyjah:
My bad
Either you or achorladey said so


Now my question

Are babies sinless? Yes or No?

Emusan:
Now that you agreed with this, this is also Watchtower understanding about THE DEFINITION OF INNOCENT.

Scripture says Babies are INNOCENT 1 Corin 14:20

According to Watchtower innocent means PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c

ENGLISH Dictionary also defines INNOCENT as SINLESS.

You also agreed that BABIES ARE INNOCENT.

So is INNOCENT= SINLESS?

OR do you want to change your stand that Babies are not INNOCENT again?



He has rope himself.



Babies are INNOCENT and since you agreed that to be sinless is to be PURE, SPOTLESS (BLAMELESS) then Yes! Babies are sinless.

MaxInDHouse:
They're just stupid that's it.

David a servant and prophet of God was inspired to say it's in sin that he was conceived in his mother's womb and most churchgoers he called Christians often recite this Psalms like "our father" yet he wants to say that's only applicable to David.
Walahi talahi they just want to argue blindly!

achorladey:


The reason I said after lying, the next step is to deny that they lied, then go the way of insults and abuses, then come back to admit that they lied, then try save their face then repeat the whole process once again

Emusan:
Olodo did David say he committed any sin IN THE WOMB?

He said "IN SIN I WAS CONCEIVED"

He didn't said "I COMMITTED SIN WHILE I WAS IN THE WOMB"

Emusan:
Olodo did David say he committed any sin IN THE WOMB?

He said "IN SIN I WAS CONCEIVED"

He didn't said "I COMMITTED SIN WHILE I WAS IN THE WOMB"

Aemmyjah:
He won't humble himself accept truth
As long as they are from us, he will not accept

Emusan:
And you still put "ME" in it





I've answered that

Aemmyjah:
See this ode trying to put me in his shoes

Ok, lemme Bring it down to your small understanding

Are babies born perfect or sinners?
Yes or No?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you want to drain his brain o.

He doesn't know that sinless means perfect o!

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes and No!

Yes because of The Law of creations "after theirkind"! So if your parents are snake, the children must be snakes. Pepper can never birth Mango. And Pineapple can never birth bittercola.

No! Because of The Law of sin requires you to do something. Actus Reus

Aemmyjah:
Babies are innocent and completely innocent
They are naive and can't do anything as they don't have this self consciousness of themselves and others and environment. They only suck and sleep and are totally dependant on others


Are babies born perfect (sinless) or imperfect (sinners)

Emusan:
This is how your own translation puts it "Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin."

And in explaining original sin, Watchtower asked this question, how does original sin affect us?

Here is the answer, "Adam and Eve passed on their sinful condition to all their descendants. This is similar to the way human parents pass on genetic defects. (Romans 5:12) Thus, all humans have been born “in sin,” meaning that we are born imperfect and inclined toward error. —Psalm 51:5; Ephesians 2:3.



No! David was talking about HIS CONCEPTION, babies in the womb don't know anything about God's laws talk less of breaking it and breaking God's laws make us His enemies.

The 3 pix attached from Watchtower is what I've been telling you people since yet arguing blindly when your own leaders said the same.


Bible study 101.

Emusan:
Babies can't break God's law.

Do you want me to use hammer to force it into your dull skull?

Besides, Noah and Lot aren't an Israelite.

Courz:
I just love how you are using their own publications to show their stupidity. You who is not a JW knows their publication like the back of your hand much more than them, which really disgraces them and makes them look really stupid in public.

The good thing about Watchtower publications is you can use them as a weapon against them. They say one thing in year 2000, they will say another thing that contradicts them in year 2002, they will then go back to the previous thing in 2000 again and they go round and round and round. Na JWs stupid pass for taking their statements seriously. Look at a good example of this in the pic below. They say Jesus is an Angel. But they also said God never sent an angel to rescue Mankind. Who takes such a Joker of a religion serious? Only Brainless Idiots! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

Emusan:
Do you agree with your organisation first?



But God is not a liar when He said He will visit the iniquity of the parents on their children even unto the fourth generation.



Your organisation said WE CAN SUFFER FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF OTHERS.

God says He can visit the INIQUITY OF THE PARENTS on their children.

The fact is that Babies are INNOCENT and can't break God's laws.

Aemmyjah:


I answered one question already when you said I should answer before I ask you
Keep dodging

Our attention is making you relevant here

We address different kinds of people here on this thread
You're desperate for attention

You said humans are born sinners
Being born begins at birth right?
So they were sinners from birth

As they grow and gain self consciousness of themselves and others and environment. They make choices as to what they think is good and bad and must build up merit towards God based on knowledge, making them God's friend.

Jehovah even made arrangements for sin offerings, regarding newborns... Are babies aware of such offering, who accept them and why or whether they are sinners? No. It is because they are completely innocent or ignorant (naive) as to knowledge of what sin is...

Olodo is arguing on the dictionary meaning of sin and innocent... Sin is a religious term

MaxInDHouse:
Funny churchgoer.

If God says the descendants of His enemies will be treated like their parents.

Are such babies God's enemies?

Faithful ones were not punished for the nation’s sins, but, although they suffered the effects of it, they benefited from God’s loving-kindness. Though individuals could and did shun the nation-wide idolatries, it was difficult for them to swim against the national tide of religious delinquency.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the believe of all Jehovah's Witnesses right from ancient Israel till today!

All babies are God's enemies!

That's why Israelites won't name their child until the eighth day when they circumcise them.
That's why they strive to inculcate God's laws in the minds of those little devils so they can make peace with God.

Whether you like it or not the Bible and God's people stand on that note saying:

All babies are God's enemies until they're taught God's laws and they embrace it! 2Timothy 3:15

Aemmyjah:
He won't humble himself accept truth
As long as they are from us, he will not accept

achorladey:
Your mouth will change to more lies and manipulations even denial of your GODS


Faithful ones were not punished for the nation’s sins, but, although they suffered the effects of it, they benefited from God’s loving-kindness. Though individuals could and did shun the nation-wide idolatries, it was difficult for them to swim against the national tide of religious delinquency.

Let rephrase as it applies to babies.....


Babies were not punished for the nation’s sins(Sodom and Gomorrah), but, although they suffered the effects of it, they benefited from God’s loving-kindness. Though babies could and did shun the nation-wide idolatries(innocent), it was difficult for them to swim against the national tide of religious delinquency.

Emusan:
You are even minding them.

You can see after that Bible study from their own publication.

They change gear again

Aemmyjah:
You have bring your own

SIN and perfection are two opposites
Just

How can it be yes and no

Sin brings about imperfection and death

That is why they are also liable to sickness, disabilities and even death
God's law commands parents to atone for the sins of newborns. Abi u no read am?
That is why I used the word INNOCENT to describe them

Aemmyjah:
Only one person was born sinless - Jesus Christ

He's the only person described as such in the Bible

Emusan:
Provide the verse.



Where can this be found in the Bible?



You even called them LITTLE DEVILS

Bravooooo



If Bible is standing on that note, you'll provide the Bible verse here.

But Bible is saying that Babies are INNOCENT.

Paul admonished believers to be like THEM.

JESUS our Lord and Saviour says SUCH are the kingdom of God fit.

If they are God's enemies, Jesus won't say such nor God inspired Paul to write that.

So anyone standing on that false doctrine is standing on his/her own.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ it's clear to him now that JWs have the truth on that matter he just want to change the topic now into exchange of hurtful words!

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes and No!

Yes because of The Law of creations "after theirkind"! So if your parents are snake, the children must be snakes. Pepper can never birth Mango. And Pineapple can never birth bittercola.

No! Because of The Law of sin requires you to do something. Actus Reus

achorladey:
It can really be an eye opener to see how these lots can to any extent to defend what don't exist with continuous lies and manipulations of the scripture

You really tried with those exposition from their own publications and yet those ungrateful lot decides to change gear and start another lies with manipulations

Dtruthspeaker:
Correct Goal! The fool no know anything.

achorladey:
When you ask him in future that he calls people demons and devils, his lying and manipulating brains will go into full gear asking for quotes to deny his lies and manipulations

MaxInDHouse:
If he accept how can he prove that the GB who are teaching us aren't qualified to lead faithful people?

Aemmyjah:
You have bring your own

SIN and perfection are two opposites
Just

How can it be yes and no

Sin brings about imperfection and death

That is why they are also liable to sickness, disabilities and even death
God's law commands parents to atone for the sins of newborns. Abi u no read am?
That is why I used the word INNOCENT to describe them

Only one person was born sinless - Jesus Christ

He's the only person described as such in the Bible