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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by olat70(m): 10:26pm On Sep 16, 2023
Release more records,no presidency for you
Wailing continua
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Sonyboom: 10:30pm On Sep 16, 2023
So you don't see enough prove below of Peter Obi criminality ?


bentenny:

Isn't it interesting that none of these acclaimed allegations had no single proof attached to it?

If indeed there was evidence and not these hilarious and hapless noise,you and your paymasters would have used it to either silence obi or imprison him!

He has challenged you and your WhatsApp group handlers to show proof of your series of mindless propaganda and yet none of you have been able to do so!

Since Tinubu has the judiciary in his pocket,take him to court nah grin

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by correctguy101(m): 10:37pm On Sep 16, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
If we must be sincere with ourselves, we need to study and understand the meaning of Democracy.

Nigeria is practicing PLUTOCRACY. Not just ordinary Plutocracy, it is Gerontocracy. If we believe that Geronto-Plutocracy is what we desire, then we should welcome it.

What is worst about our case is that the Pluto-Gerontocracy is tilting towards Ethnocracy and Theocracy.

So, to coin words for our Politics, we must admit that we are a special people. Therefore our Form of Government is special.

Ethno-Theocratic-Gerontological Plutocracy. This is how confused we are as a nation in the true sense of the word,

Even the citizens are escaping, if I understand the meaning of japa correctly.

I just hope that Tinubu will use his stolen renewed hope mandate correctly. Truth is everyone should hold the State Governors of their chosen abode accountable if they need a better life for their kids.

Running away is not the long term solution.

On my name...

The only thing this daddy could understand is the bolded and the last sentence....
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 10:45pm On Sep 16, 2023
Sonyboom:
So you don't see enough prove below of Peter Obi criminality ?


Have you heard that quote before?
'He who alleges must prove'

If you accuse someone of an allegation,its your job to prove by providing evidence and charging him to court!
Failure to prove your allegation will only make your hapless links of allegations look like a mere propaganda!
Its that simple!
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by BENEAMATA: 10:51pm On Sep 16, 2023
pandoragirigory:
Gbajue himself
Obi the Gbajumo ( popular figure )
I know you thought i'd say the other one you wrote up there . Make una try to dey put swag now . We go still code what you mean grin .
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by PaulH07: 11:34pm On Sep 16, 2023
Newton2024:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/nigeria-swinging-dangerously-away-from-true-democracy-says-obi/amp/

This one is still mourning when the GCFR is already making giant strides that Nigerians and even some Obidients are beginning to be proud of...
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by BENEAMATA: 11:48pm On Sep 16, 2023
bentenny:

Have you heard that quote before?
'He who alleges must prove'

If you accuse someone of an allegation,its your job to prove by providing evidence and charging him to court!
Failure to prove your allegation will only make your hapless links of allegations look like a mere propaganda!
Its that simple!
True , the burden of proof rest with the accuser , so here is a few ,

Facts -

He invested state funds into company he has shares in . We know because Obi the dullard chatterbox bragged about it as one of his " go and verify " achievements on national tv .

He was maintaining a foreign bank account months into his tenure as a governor and public office holder , but then Obi the dullard claimed he was unaware he couldn't do such . We believed him anyway .

Then the Pandora papers started flying everywhere that exposes his dealings concerning offshore companies he runs in monaco and british virgin island while he was a governor , which was not previously declared among his assets . The crook opened an offshore company in the name of his family of four in tax haven countries and months later also opened another that it's sole purpose is to be the sole beneficiary of any funds that the first company made and of course Ali baba's first son is the only name this second " company " registered as the chairman , c.e.o . And when journalist confronted him with hard evidence , him too lie said he did it to help his children avoid inheritance tax , where there are more than half a dozen not illegitimate ways to by-pass such tax , or you simply let the beneficiaries handle paying 10% or less of their new riches .

You see , these guys are not saints . Don't glorify one crook while demonizing the other . How does that portray you as morally upright to judge ?

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:17am On Sep 17, 2023
BENEAMATA:
True , the burden of proof rest with the accuser , so here is a few ,

Facts -

He invested state funds into company he has shares in . We know because Obi the dullard chatterbox bragged about it as one of his " go and verify " achievements on national tv .

He was maintaining a foreign bank account months into his tenure as a governor and public office holder , but then Obi the dullard claimed he was unaware he couldn't do such . We believed him anyway .

Then the Pandora papers started flying everywhere that exposes his dealings concerning offshore companies he runs in monaco and british virgin island while he was a governor , which was not previously declared among his assets . The crook opened an offshore company in the name of his family of four in tax haven countries and months later also opened another that it's sole purpose is to be the sole beneficiary of any funds that the first company made and of course Ali baba's first son is the only name this second " company " registered as the chairman , c.e.o . And when journalist confronted him with hard evidence , him too lie said he did it to help his children avoid inheritance tax , where there are more than half a dozen not illegitimate ways to by-pass such tax , or you simply let the beneficiaries handle paying 10% or less of their new riches .

You see , these guys are not saints . Don't glorify one crook while demonizing the other . How does that portray as morally upright to judge ?
You started off well but ended up misconstruing allegations as facts!
Most of what you have said are more or less beer parlour gists laced with a heavy dose of hapless propaganda!

When you accuse someone of stealing,you must have important documents like account details and bank statements from source to back your claims not write-ups and insinuations that are coughed out based on sentiments to score cheap political points!

As for the Pandora's papers,the EFCC had invited Peter Obi and after that,EFCC have said nothing or linked the Pandora's papers to Peter Obi!
Its a clear case of admission that they had nothing on him with respect to the Pandora's papers!

If EFCC had new evidence to nail Peter Obi,trust me,it would have happened now but they have found nothing on him up until now even when he beat his chest to ask anyone with incriminating evidence against him to bring it forward and he will quit his political campaign!
How many politicians that have attained the milestone of Obi can say that they haven't stolen government funds with their full chest?

Your last statements are true because he had recently stated clearly he is no saint and if we are to be honest,none of us are saints and have engaged in one or two activities that are not permitted by our laws!

But if a man can come out and ask Nigerians to check if he has stolen any money from government coffers and yet no one has come out with stone wall proof,then he should be believed!
Can we say the same of a president who is trying to block or impede people from finding out the contents of his educational qualifications?
Has Obi blocked anyone from accessing his certificate from UNN?
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Sonyboom: 12:25am On Sep 17, 2023
Finally you said something sensible all day long. So all your allegations on Bola Tinubu you can now go with your father to a competent court of jurisdiction n prove it.

As long as you fail to prove it in court but still continue to malign the man without getting a conviction that is as long as I will continue to expose the criminal active of Peter Obi without seeking a conviction.

This should end the back n forth.



bentenny:

Have you heard that quote before?
'He who alleges must prove'

If you accuse someone of an allegation,its your job to prove by providing evidence and charging him to court!
Failure to prove your allegation will only make your hapless links of allegations look like a mere propaganda!
Its that simple!

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:37am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Finally you said something sensible all day long. So all your allegations on Bola Tinubu you can now go with your father to a competent court of jurisdiction n prove it.

As long as you fail to prove it in court but still continue to malign the man without getting a conviction that is as long as I will continue to expose the criminal active of Peter Obi without seeking a conviction.

This should end the back n forth.




The matter is already in court and there are evidences all over the internet which proves that there was forgery on the certificate submitted by Tinubu to INEC!
The certificates are before the judge and will soon give an expected verdict to show that the certificate Tinubu presented to INEC was fake!

Likewise, you can take your beer parlour gists with the full compliment of your family members including your own father to a competent court of law and let's see if an average judge worth its salt in Nigeria won't toss such allegations laced with hilarious hearsays to the dirt bin!

I laugh in Swahili.....
If EFCC that is part and parcel of the FG could not find anything incriminating against Obi,which other Pandora document do you want to use against him?

Keep playing!
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by nony43(m): 1:01am On Sep 17, 2023
ElSudani:
Coming from the man who didn't conduct any local government elections throughout his stay as the governor of Anambra.
Obi is dangerously dishonest. By the way, we need to see his academic records.






It is open for everyone. Not like the criminal who never denied he did drugs.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Sonyboom: 1:27am On Sep 17, 2023
Same EFCC that couldn't convict James Ibori that took fees hours for UK to jail. De play.

If EFCC conviction is the standard why then do you run your foolish mouth on Tinubu when be is yet to be convicted by same EFCC or will you like me to tell you what Ribadu said about Tinubu impeccable character ?!




bentenny:


I laugh in Swahili.....
If EFCC that is part and parcel of the FG could not find anything incriminating against Obi,which other Pandora document do you want to use against him?

Keep playing!

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 1:35am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Same EFCC that couldn't convict James Ibori that took fees hours for UK to jail. De play.


Seems you were born today!
Which party was james ibori then?
Which party was the president then?
EFCC belongs to the FG and in this case,Tinubu is now in control of them!
Are you saying EFCC is afraid of Peter Obi or does he pay their salary?
If EFCC had any evidence against Obi,he would be in jail by now until the tenure of Tinubu expires but they have nothing on him because he is not guilty!
Its that simple!

If EFCC conviction is the standard why then do you run your foolish mouth on Tinubu when be is yet to be convicted by same EFCC or will you like me to tell you what Ribadu said about Tinubu impeccable character ?!
When you have nothing to say or have exhausted the remaining matter in your cranium,you resort to insults and gutter talk only to expose your folly!
Now look at what you wrote again!
What was one of the first thing Tinubu did when he was sworn in,was it not to remove the current EFCC chairman?
Why do you think he did that?
You say EFCC is not standard,since Pandora papers is an international criminal affair,how come international security outfits like FBI or interpol have not arrested Peter Obi while he was travelling? Think oga!
Make una try dey engage una brain before typing!
Advise no be curse!
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Sonyboom: 2:00am On Sep 17, 2023
Awesome !
Can we now deduce that Tinubu is a saint as EFCC never touched for 16 years PDP ruled we all know he was in the opposition n both Obj n Ebele haunted him down yet they couldn't find a thing the man was spanking clean but what will you haters say ?

In regards to Obi, Tinubu as more important thing doing than chasing after a common criminal like Peter Obi. Let me give you a scenario imagine a governor loaded cash in his personal governor's convey n brought the money into his personal ware house all the way from Anambra to Lagos. He does this monthly till he was caught red handed by Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner of police.

Mike Okiro the DG then was also a party to this n Obasanjo had to get involved if not Pandora.Obi will be cooling off in jail right now. This is the reason for the closeness btw Obj n Obi. It was this reason Pandora agreed to leave APGA after his tenure or risk Obj-PDP tarnishing his holier than thou fraudulent criminality.

Concerning why he was not arrrested internationally you seems to have forgotten he was indeed detained in his last UK trip before he japa like the fugitive diehard criminal that he is n since then have you seen the criminal visit UK again ?

I dare Peter Obi to visit the UK anytime soon. We all know he likes blabbing why as the Pandora criminal Peter Obi refused to tell Nigerian about the deal that lead to his jailing in the UK ?




bentenny:

Seems you were born today!
Which party was james ibori then?
Which party was the president then?
EFCC belongs to the FG and in this case,Tinubu is now in control of them!
Are you saying EFCC is afraid of Peter Obi or does he pay their salary?
If EFCC had any evidence against Obi,he would be in jail by now until the tenure of Tinubu expires but they have nothing on him because he is not guilty!
Its that simple!


When you have nothing to say or have exhausted the remaining matter in your cranium,you resort to insults and gutter talk only to expose your folly!
Now look at what you wrote again!
What was one of the first thing Tinubu did when he was sworn in,was it not to remove the current EFCC chairman?
Why do you think he did that?
You say EFCC is not standard,since Pandora papers is an international criminal affair,how come international security outfits like FBI or interpol have not arrested Peter Obi while he was travelling? Think oga!
Make una try dey engage una brain before typing!
Advise no be curse!

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 2:16am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Awesome !
Can we now deduce that Tinubu is a saint as EFCC never touched for 16 years PDP ruled we all know he was in the opposition n both Obj n Ebele haunted him down yet they couldn't find a thing the man was spanking clean but what will you haters say ?

In regards to Obi, Tinubu as more important thing doing than chasing after a common criminal like Peter Obi. Let me give you a scenario imagine a governor loaded cash in his personal governor's convey n brought the money into his personal ware house all the way from Anambra to Lagos. He does this monthly till he was caught red handed by Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner of police.

Mike Okiro the DG then was also a party to this n Obasanjo had to get involved if not Pandora.Obi will be cooling off in jail right now. This is the reason for the closeness btw Obj n Obi. It was this reason Pandora agreed to leave APGA after his tenure or risk Obj-PDP tarnishing his holier than thou fraudulent criminality.

Concerning why he was not arrrested internationally you seems to have forgotten he was indeed detained in his last UK trip before he japa like the fugitive diehard criminal that he is n since then have you seen the criminal visit UK again ?

I dare Peter Obi to visit the UK anytime soon. We all know he likes blabbing why as the Pandora criminal Peter Obi refused to tell Nigerian about the deal that lead to his jailing in the UK ?


You are mixing up things and confusing yourself even more!
Well Not surprised!

The issue of tinubu bothers on the authenticity of the certificate he submitted to INEC which if proven to be fake by the judge in chicago will invalidate and disqualify Tinubu as president based on perjury (if you even know what it means)

The idea of bringing EFCC was due to the fact that you claimed to have incriminating evidence abi proof of Obi's involvement in Pandora papers!

If you do set into the different agencies and submit your claims abi evidence not on nairaland!

EFCC has invited him and he has cleared his name of any wrongdoing!
If he actually committed such crime,the likes of FBI or interpol would have been on his trail which is evidence that he is not guilty of any crime both home and abroad!

You dared Obi to visit UK and he has been there several times and even took pictures!


Please get creative with your horrendous propaganda because the ones you are spinning currently and not only stale but covered with folly!
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by oneman2k7: 4:05am On Sep 17, 2023
I supported Peter Obi. He needs to restrategise for 2027. This one is gone already.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by jonnieoneng: 4:18am On Sep 17, 2023
Newton2024:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/nigeria-swinging-dangerously-away-from-true-democracy-says-obi/amp/

Instead of doing this, why don't you start making friends in areas where you scored least votes.

With the way your Kinsmen are just running their mouths 👄 abusing other Ethnic Nationalities in Nigeria just because you lost out is doing your ambition future damages.

While I will like to one day see an Igbo Man become President of Nigeria, the Igbo ethnic nationality must do themselves a favor by putting an end to all the unprofitable political rhetorics that is making their own to lose electoral value elsewhere!

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Myer(m): 4:20am On Sep 17, 2023
jonnieoneng:


Instead of doing this, why don't you start making friends in areas where you scored least votes.

With the way your Kinsmen are just running their mouths 👄 abusing other Ethnic Nationalities in Nigeria just because you lost out is doing your ambition future damages.

While I will like to one day see an Igbo Man become President of Nigeria, the Igbo ethnic nationality must do themselves a favor by putting an end to all the unprofitable political rhetorics that is making their own to lose electoral value elsewhere!

This, they do not yet understand because they do not listen to reason.

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by TongueTwista(m): 5:04am On Sep 17, 2023
Thekaghan:
Nigeria is not thriving economically and other aspects. What track records does Obi have to turn the country around please? What’s his achievement pin governance? The day Obi assumes that office[b](a day that may never come bc his performance in the election is the best he will ever get)[/b] then the country is doomed.

Your first sentence was all I needed.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by Ceejay94: 5:13am On Sep 17, 2023
Meagainstthem:
This clown will never be my presidentgrin
Already he is doing better than your whole family
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by ReturnMan: 5:21am On Sep 17, 2023
RevDesm0ndJuju:



Ohu.


Have you not noticed that your Obi has lost all he's deluded non Ibo supporters ?



We no just get strength to de banter with una and una propaganda. Make una enjoy una criminal president with false promises 😂
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by RevDesm0ndJuju: 5:23am On Sep 17, 2023
ReturnMan:


We no just get strength to de banter with una and una propaganda. Make una enjoy una criminal president with false promises 😂

All truths are first violently rejected .

After which there is resignation to the fact of it being self evident .


Finally it is accepted as being fact.


You are on your way out of denial creek.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:25am On Sep 17, 2023
RevDesm0ndJuju:
Idiot rest.

You lost .

You are the fool who refuses to accept both the people's decision and the court's ruling.



You are the fool rather. So just shut up
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:26am On Sep 17, 2023
RevDesm0ndJuju:


Isn't that what the Ibos do anytime they lose out ?

Find a way to truncate the system.


Obi should try nonesense let's see

Show me how they truncated the system in the past? Oga see this ethnic baiting can get you arrested be very careful.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:27am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Only in Nigeria will a whole tribe complain about a criminal as governor but suddenly declare him a saint when he contest to be the president.

Now tell him if that is not tribalism n bigotry in full glare of the entire human race
.

As I know mention any name watch how bunch of pathetic foolish human from a section of the country will be quoting me relentless like say na thief their destiny into my daughter's Pandora account.

Bro this stuff from you is stale. He even asked eFCC to investigate him and the PDP controlled state house of assembly cleared him. Oga stoo being stupid naaaa.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by RevDesm0ndJuju: 5:28am On Sep 17, 2023
obyno82:


Show me how they truncated the system in the past? Oga see this ethnic baiting can get you arrested be very careful.

Nigeria is not Biafra .

James Nwafor is not head of DSS and Obi is not president that can order him to arrest and kill his political adversaries.

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Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:28am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Make God save Nigeria from tribalistic bigoted Pandora criminal such as this oloriburuku

Dude this is stale. He kept his assets in a trust in a safe haven even before his election as governor, and since the trust was not in his name, then it can't be declared as his assets. He did nothing wrong oga. Try and be sensible for once
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:29am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Make God save Nigeria from tribalistic bigoted Pandora criminal such as this oloriburuku

Shut up
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:29am On Sep 17, 2023
RevDesm0ndJuju:



Ohu.


Have you not noticed that your Obi has lost all he's deluded non Ibo supporters ?


How really? Oga just shut up abeg.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by RevDesm0ndJuju: 5:30am On Sep 17, 2023
obyno82:

How really? Oga just shut up abeg.

Ohu, do not quote me again!
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:31am On Sep 17, 2023
MrAgbako:



The Igbo tried to rule Nigeria by force, what they cannot do through the ballot box; they tried it through coup. They tried the coup, it failed and now decided to do a civil war. It was a contract. That is the basic thing.


Major General David Akpode Ejoor


The same Ejoor foiled the Jan 66 coup in Enugu by not allowing the boys arrest M.I Okpara as the battalion commander then, now changed tune after Ironi's death to criticize igbos. That was why he felt so bitter that IBB made Asaba capital of Delta state by saying that rebels are being rewarded because Asaba is an Igbo area.
Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by obyno82: 5:32am On Sep 17, 2023
Thekaghan:
Nigerians are beginning to see him as a nuisance.

No you are the nuisance that Nigerians are seeing.

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