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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Dtruthspeaker: 2:28pm On Sep 16, 2023
achorladey:
They will come and ask you to respond properly. This one is an improper response grin grin grin grin


LIke proper and improper fractions grin grin grin
grin Did you not see that the guy shock? grin He could not process it that is why he tried deviating to perfection/Imperfection when he could not find any appropriate response . grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Aemmyjah(m): 2:28pm On Sep 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Off point! The topic is sin how a person becomes a sinner. Perfection/Imperfection is not here.

So just say you never knew this and you would take time to verify it.



He is The only One Who has a full YES to The Law! For He Fulfils

!) The Law of "After His kind"! He originates from The Holy hence why Mary being an undefiled virgin was found acceptable to carry Him to maintain His Holiness. Mathew 1:20

2) The Law of Doings! He did no sin. The Law Fully Complied with.

So; He was not "sinless", He was "Sin-None".

So, no man escapes being a sinner!
The Bible uses the term 'king' and 'slave' to show the influence of sin over us and how it dominates us like a slave, holding us captive

Let's now go back to ancient times
Imagine a nation was defeated and many are taken captives... The children are not left behind cos they did not follow and fight right? The children may not even be aware of any war or they may even condemn it but once their nation is held captive, they too are captives
Same applies with slavery... Once a slave gives birth, that child is automatically a slave to the owner (Note that I am referring to ancient times of the orientals before mad people come and start making trouble like wild dogs)...
Now slavery is in two aspects... The person by birth from slave parents and also by actions for or to his master... Whether the child works or rebels or even run away, the master will still look for 'his slave' and that is why we have terms like 'run away slaves'...

Same applies with sin... Like a genetic disease, it lies in each and everyone of us, condemning us to imperfections and death...

You cannot use Yes and No to answer that question

No man is born sinless... Sinless means perfect... Spotless... Sinless person cannot exercise faith in Jesus sacrifice or beg for his mercy

Because of their inherited sinful nature, the same law makes provision for their parents to do sin offerings for them
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 2:41pm On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
The Bible uses the term 'king' and 'slave' to show the influence of sin over us and how it dominates us like a slave, holding us captive

Let's now go back to ancient times
Imagine a nation was defeated and many are taken captives... The children are not left behind cos they did not follow and fight right? The children may not even be aware of any war or they may even condemn it but once their nation is held captive, they too are captives
Same applies with slavery... Once a slave gives birth, that child is automatically a slave to the owner (Note that I am referring to ancient times of the orientals before mad people come and start making trouble like wild dogs)...
Now slavery is in two aspects... The person by birth from slave parents and also by actions for or to his master... Whether the child works or rebels or even run away, the master will still look for 'his slave' and that is why we have terms like 'run away slaves'...

Same applies with sin... Like a genetic disease, it lies in each and everyone of us, condemning us to imperfections and death...

You cannot use Yes and No to answer that question

No man is born sinless... Sinless means perfect... Spotless... Sinless person cannot exercise faith in Jesus sacrifice or beg for his mercy

Because of their inherited sinful nature, the same law makes provision for their parents to do sin offerings for them
I know yes and no will be called improper response. You have to go into your long


Whether the child works or rebels or even run away, the master will still look for 'his slave' and that is why we have terms like 'run away slaves'.
The question you and your likes keeps running away from will that nation call those newly born babies of the slaves ENEMIES or REBELS of that nation while they are still babies? grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Dtruthspeaker: 2:42pm On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
The Bible uses the term 'king' and 'slave' to show the influence of sin over us and how it dominates us like a slave, holding us captive

Let's now go back to ancient times
Imagine a nation was defeated and many are taken captives... The children are not left behind cos they did not follow and fight right? The children may not even be aware of any war or they may even condemn it but once their nation is held captive, they too are captives
Same applies with slavery... Once a slave gives birth, that child is automatically a slave to the owner (Note that I am referring to ancient times of the orientals before mad people come and start making trouble like wild dogs)...
Now slavery is in two aspects... The person by birth from slave parents and also by actions for or to his master... Whether the child works or rebels or even run away, the master will still look for 'his slave' and that is why we have terms like 'run away slaves'...
I know but this is off point.

Aemmyjah:
Same applies with sin... Like a genetic disease, it lies in each and everyone of us, condemning us ...
Covered by The Law of After their Kind. Serpents must birth serpents and Pine Apple can never birth bitter kola. Mathew 7:17.

Aemmyjah:
No man is born sinless... Sinless means perfect... Spotless... Sinless person cannot exercise faith in Jesus sacrifice or beg for his mercy

Because of their inherited sinful nature, the same law makes provision for their parents to do sin offerings for them
The mere fact that you have confessed that "their parents have to do don offering for them proves that a sinner births a sinner as The Law of After their kind Mathew 7:17 Said.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 2:42pm On Sep 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
grin Did you not see that the guy shock? grin He could not process it that is why he tried deviating to perfection/Imperfection when he could not find any appropriate response . grin
And he has continued in his manipulations and lies peddling as captured up there grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:06pm On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
Where can this be found in the Bible?
It's found in God's action as He ordered the killing of babies in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and Jericho! cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:13pm On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's found in God's action as He ordered the killing of babies in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and Jericho! cheesy
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God's actions are recorded in the Bible. Picking one out of it that says Babies are God's enemies is the reason behind your lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

Yet the ways and thoughts of God is not MaxInDHouse ways and thoughts grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 4:29pm On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's found in God's action as He ordered the killing of babies in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and Jericho! cheesy
So you agreed it's not in the Bible

Bravooooo.

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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 4:33pm On Sep 16, 2023
achorladey:
I know yes and no will be called improper response. You have to go into your long
But they want you to use Yes and No to their own question cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

The question you and your likes keeps running away from will that nation call those newly born babies of the slaves ENEMIES or REBELS of that nation while they are still babies? grin grin grin grin
It's evident they lack in depth knowledge on the subject matter other than just defend those dishing them poisonous food. cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 4:37pm On Sep 16, 2023
achorladey:
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God's actions are recorded in the Bible. Picking one out of it that says Babies are God's enemies is the reason behind your lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin
He till thy kingdom comes, he can't provide one because if e no dey e no dey cheesy grin cheesy grin

Yet the ways and thoughts of God is not MaxInDHouse ways and thoughts grin grin grin grin
Whenever it suits them you'll see them using that verse.

Not when it was even written boldly that God will visit the INIQUITY OF their parents on children and Watchtower also teaches that with original sin one can suffer from the consequences of others.

They will throw away all this just to defend the indefensible.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
So you agreed it's not in the Bible Bravooooo.
cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
God destroyed them yet you don't grasp that they're His enemies shey?
Stop deceiving yourself o!smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 5:19pm On Sep 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
God destroyed them yet you don't grasp that they're His enemies shey?
Stop deceiving yourself o!smiley
But your organisation says one can suffer the consequences of others.

God says he will visit the INIQUITY OF parents on children even unto the fourth generation.

We know you're the one deceiving himself

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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 5:32pm On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
So you agreed it's not in the Bible

Bravooooo.

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
All along they know they cannot pick one verse that states so. grin grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 5:33pm On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
But your organisation says one can suffer the consequences of others.

God says he will visit the INIQUITY OF parents on children even unto the fourth generation.

We know you're the one deceiving himself

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
He has to peddle lies and manipulations to console himself regarding such deception
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 8:15pm On Sep 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
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I answered one question already when you said I should answer before I ask you
Keep dodging
Our attention is making you relevant here

We address different kinds of people here on this thread
You're desperate for attention

You said humans are born sinners
Being born begins at birth right?
So they were sinners from birth

As they grow and gain self consciousness of themselves and others and environment. They make choices as to what they think is good and bad and must build up merit towards God based on knowledge, making them God's friend.

Jehovah even made arrangements for sin offerings, regarding newborns... Are babies aware of such offering, who accept them and why or whether they are sinners? No. It is because they are completely innocent or ignorant (naive) as to knowledge of what sin is...

Olodo is arguing on the dictionary meaning of sin and innocent... Sin is a religious term
Ride on bro
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56pm On Sep 16, 2023
Emusan:
But your organisation says one can suffer the consequences of others.
By suffering the consequences of others mistake that's man's doing not God's own judgement.
Abraham said it's unthinkable of God to judge the good along with the wicked! Genesis 18:25

So when talking about suffering the consequences of what other caused it's not like the direct judgement from God only the wicked are destroyed by God's executioners.

People destroyed in Noah's generation, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek are God's enemies along with their BABIES! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey:
MaxInDHouse:
By suffering the consequences of others mistake that's man's doing not God's own judgement.
Abraham said it's unthinkable of God to judge the good along with the wicked! Genesis 18:25

So when talking about suffering the consequences of what other caused it's not like the direct judgement from God only the wicked are destroyed by God's executioners.

People destroyed in Noah's generation, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek are God's enemies along with their BABIES! smiley
People destroyed in Noah's generation, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek are God's enemies along with their BABIES
Are their babies enemies of God? grin grin grin grin grin grin

Your manipulations and lies peddling will never make you answer that question using a single Bible verse grin grin grin grin

Babies(innocent) were not punished for the nation’s sins(Sodom and Gomorrah), but, although they suffered the effects of it, they benefited from God’s loving-kindness. Though babies(innocent) could and did shun the nation-wide idolatries, it was difficult for them to swim against the national tide of religious delinquency.
So when talking about suffering the consequences of what other caused it's not like the direct judgement from God only the wicked are destroyed by God's executioners.
Had your brains being functioning properly without lies and manipulations you will have seen what the bold means. It is not a direct judgement on babies, babies are not wicked grin grin grin grin grin


Abraham said it's unthinkable of God to judge the good along with the wicked! Genesis 18:25
Allow your brains to function properly here too. grin grin grin grin grin The babies that died as a result of destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah suffered the consequences of others mistake not the mistake or wickedness of babies or based on the non existent ideas and ideologies packed into your manipulated brains that Babies are enemies of God.

The more you try defend your GODS on this matter, the more you show that your brains have been manipulated with lies and manipulations of the scriptures.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 11:26am On Sep 17, 2023
achorladey:
Are their babies enemies of God?
Your manipulations and lies peddling will never make you answer that question using a single Bible verse.

The more you try defend your GODS on this matter, the more you show that your brains have been manipulated with lies and manipulations of the scriptures.
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!

Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"

Only Achorladey, Emusan , Advocatejare, the LYING faithless miscreants DECEIVING THEMSELVES.
They are impure , there babies are pure.
Ozuo WOKE pro max.
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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 11:33am On Sep 17, 2023
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!

Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"

Job 25:4, Job 14:4 & Psalms 21:8,10, Psalms 51:5 have PROVEN evidences that these LYING faithless miscreants forming WOKE DECEIVING THEMSELVES. grin grin

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey:
Janosky:
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!

Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"

Only Achorladey, Emusan , Advocatejare, the LYING faithless miscreants DECEIVING THEMSELVES.
They are impure , there babies are pure.
Ozuo WOKE pro max.
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Manipulator of the scripture decides to start asking questions using the account of Job grin grin grin grin

Your Mumu and no get sense peddling brains didn't tell you or read clearly that babies are innocent. That fact was stated without raising questions grin grin grin grin

Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!
The ways and thoughts of God are far far different from ways of men. The job you quoted went ahead to state.....

Then Job said in reply to Jehovah: “Now I know that you are able to do all things And that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you(including something pure from impure). You said, ‘Who is this who is obscuring my counsel without knowledge?’ Therefore I spoke, but without understanding About things too wonderful for me, which I do not know.


Now here is what your religious organization say about Bildad who uttered the below in the screenshot .....

How can one born of a woman be innocent?"
It is in your blood to lie and manipulate the scriptures just like your GODS to advance more lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

Jobs children are enemies of God the reason he allowed calamity to befall them according to Bildad and that is the truth to support your lies and manipulations in order to defend your GODS with your no get sense and Mumu peddling brainsgrin grin grin

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 5:00pm On Sep 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
By suffering the consequences of others mistake that's man's doing not God's own judgement.
So it's not Biblical of what your organisation TAUGHT cheesy grin cheesy

Abraham said it's unthinkable of God to judge the good along with the wicked! Genesis 18:25
I can see how you boycotted Deu 5:9 cheesy grin cheesy grin

So when talking about suffering the consequences of what other caused it's not like the direct judgement from God only the wicked are destroyed by God's executioners.
It's direct judgement from Watchtower we know grin cheesy grin cheesy

People destroyed in Noah's generation, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek are God's enemies along with their BABIES! smiley
But Deu 5:9 was there, why did you jump over it?

E get why cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 5:02pm On Sep 17, 2023
achorladey:
Manipulator of the scripture decides to start asking questions using the account of Job grin grin grin grin

Your Mumu and no get sense peddling brains didn't tell you or read clearly that babies are innocent. That fact was stated without raising questions grin grin grin grin



The ways and thoughts of God are far far different from ways of men. The job you quoted went ahead to state.....

Then Job said in reply to Jehovah: “Now I know that you are able to do all things And that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you(including something pure from impure). You said, ‘Who is this who is obscuring my counsel without knowledge?’ Therefore I spoke, but without understanding About things too wonderful for me, which I do not know.


Now here is what your religious organization say about Bildad who uttered the below in the screenshot .....



It is in your blood to lie and manipulate the scriptures just like your GODS to advance more lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

Jobs children are enemies of God the reason he allowed calamity to befall them according to Bildad and that is the truth to support your lies and manipulations in order to defend your GODS with your no get sense and Mumu peddling brainsgrin grin grin
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!"


The inspired word of God stated by Job himself.

Achorladey WAILER, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 5:05pm On Sep 17, 2023
Janosky:
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!
JaNosense has sneaked in from back side with his delusion again cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"
So Babies are no more innocent.

Well we believe God who declared that Babies are INNOCENT and inspired Paul to write that believers should emulate them than your manipulator and lying 8 old men in Warwick.

Only Achorladey, Emusan , Advocatejare, the LYING faithless miscreants DECEIVING THEMSELVES.
Reason why you deluded people haven't been able to provide just one verse where God says Children are his enemies.

They are impure , there babies are pure.
Ozuo WOKE pro max. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Bible says Babies are INNOCENT. Are you saying it's a lie?

Deluded JaNosense cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 5:09pm On Sep 17, 2023
Janosky:
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!"


The inspired word of God stated by Job himself.

Achorladey WAILER, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.
But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 5:13pm On Sep 17, 2023
Emusan:
But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?
Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"

Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!"

Emusan says himself does.
FAITHLESS miscreant DECEIVING HIMSELF.
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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 5:19pm On Sep 17, 2023
Janosky:
Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be innocent?"
The Bible says Babies are INNOCENT.

True or false?

Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!"
Bible says Babies are INNOCENT, true or false?

Emusan says himself does.
FAITHLESS miscreant DECEIVING HIMSELF.[/b] grin
You didn't address my points, why? grin cheesy grin

But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?

JaNosense the worshiper of the lying 8 old men in Warwick cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 7:27pm On Sep 17, 2023
Emusan:
But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?
That question is left unanswered after close to +/- 50 pages the question came up grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 7:30pm On Sep 17, 2023
Janosky:
Job 14:4
Who can produce something pure from what is impure? No one!"


The inspired word of God stated by Job himself.

Achorladey WAILER, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Bildad words no sell again, you have clipped that one the remaining one is Job. Here it is again for your Mumu and no get sense peddling peddler brains to ponder...


The ways and thoughts of God are far far different from ways of men. The job you quoted went ahead to state.....

Then Job said in reply to Jehovah: “Now I know that you are able to do all things And that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you(including something pure from impure). You said, ‘Who is this who is obscuring my counsel without knowledge?’ Therefore I spoke, but without understanding About things too wonderful for me, which I do not know


The Bible already established that babies are innocent, your brothers in Jehovah already admit babies are innocent.

We know you have to wail and peddle your Mumu and no get sense to save your head and face.

No get sense peddling like


Bought = Use grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:36pm On Sep 17, 2023
achorladey:
That question is left unanswered after close to +/- 50 pages the question came up grin grin grin grin
That's why they are very restless jumping from verse to verse jusy to cover up the lie dished from Warwick grin grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 7:39pm On Sep 17, 2023
Emusan:
That's why they are very restless jumping from verse to verse jusy to cover up the lie dished from Warwick grin grin cheesy
They have to remain restless. Even their GODS usually warn them that any recordings of whatever they say should be used personally by their members. They already know they will dish out lies that will be easily refuted grin grin grin

This one they dish pass them grin grin grin

He came back asking questions that have been answered repeatedly.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 11:28am On Sep 18, 2023
Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse

Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent!

Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion


Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible


You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 7:55pm On Sep 18, 2023
Emusan:
That's why they are very restless jumping from verse to verse jusy to cover up the lie dished from Warwick grin grin cheesy
achorladey:
They have to remain restless. Even their GODS usually warn them that any recordings of whatever they say should be used personally by their members. They already know they will dish out lies that will be easily refuted grin grin grin

This one they dish pass them grin grin grin

He came back asking questions that have been answered repeatedly.
Job 14:4 & Job 25:4 nah the reason for these FAITHLESS miscreants WAILING.

The holy scriptures EXPOSING their MUMU
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