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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by casualobserver: 1:37pm On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
There is solid grounds to disqualify Tinubu for certificate forgery if not that our Fraudiciary is fantastically corrupt.

Why is Bukachuwa being investigated by ICPC and DSS again?

He who asserts must prove.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:37pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kukutente23:

Atiku being fingered in Halliburton scandal is true
That he was sacked from customs is a big fat lie
Millions of dollars in Obi convoy is another big fat lie
Awkuzu Sars is another big fat lie as well

Awkuzu Sars is not a lie oga.ask any anambra person.obi as gov worked with Sars commander James nwafor to deal with his opponents.money was found in his convoy is a public knowledge.obi self publicly said he invested state funds in his brewery.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by CharleyBright(m): 1:38pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


North that you guys said will vote atiku

Who is you guys?
Is everyone for obi?
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:38pm On Sep 20, 2023
Prince111111:
from how you are feeling right now, you have admitted that the man is hiding a lot from the public right??

So
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:39pm On Sep 20, 2023
kayusely70:
Both of them have tainted past but their supporters would never admit!

Almost all politicians self

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Prince111111: 1:39pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


So
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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Exceed15: 1:43pm On Sep 20, 2023
seunmsg:


Read what you said and ask yourself if you’re making any sense. Why should CSU authenticate under oath documents presented by Tinubu in a case happening in a foreign country in which CSU is not a party? Does that make any sense to you? The only question CSU can answer is if Bola Tinubu who is currently the president of Nigeria attended and graduated from their school and they’ve done that severally and under oath.

I don't even understand your submission.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by JetApartment: 1:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais


Oga twister, English Language shouldn't be as difficult as you think, read the court judgement again and see if it corresponds with the rubbish you typed to console yourself.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:49pm On Sep 20, 2023
CharleyBright:


Who is you guys?
Is everyone for obi?

Are you not for atiku
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Bigkoko: 1:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
There is a reason why most godfathers & drug barons dont vie for office or leave their fortress....... It's called common sense! But this werey tossed his common sense away!


Toks2008:


Did you read that part where I wrote that CSU is most likely aware of the parole.

They must have done it with good arrangement at the time but never expected Tinubu to ever get to that stage where he will Want to be president.

Tinubu allowed his ambition to cloud his sense of reasoning.

In all fairness, I am not judging him for doing what he had to do but he should also know better that a man with such a shady past should think well before aspiring to be the president of a country like Nigeria.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Kukutente23: 1:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Awkuzu Sars is not a lie oga.ask any anambra person.obi as gov worked with Sars commander James nwafor to deal with his opponents.money was found in his convoy is a public knowledge.obi self publicly said he invested state funds in his brewery.
You must be high.
Does SARs answer to even commissioner of police not to mention gov? Why don't you hold Sanwo-Olu responsible for SARs killings in Lagos as well.
As for that money, it was a big fat lie. Nothing of such happened. It was simply brown envelope journalism
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Bigkoko: 1:55pm On Sep 20, 2023
More flowers for honorable Judge Jeffrey Gilbert!


Ratello:
The best part of Judge Jeffrey Gilbert's judgment was when he turned down Chicago State University's request to respond in writing to questions about BAT's documents within 7 days.

The judge ruled that they didn't show good cause to merit such & ordered them to appear in person! So, as the questions are being thrown at them, they'd have to answer immediately. No time for mago mago.

If it is inJustice Tsammani just imagine what he would have done
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by CharleyBright(m): 1:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Are you not for atiku

My name looks like Aboki name to you?
Tinubu is a fraud just admit that
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by kayusely70(m): 1:59pm On Sep 20, 2023
casualobserver:


Look my friend (and to all those reading this) many of you do not actually and have not read the petition before the court in illinois or the judgement.

let me give you a summary.

There are 4 requests sought by Atiku. the court granted all 4 however:

requests 1-3 are discretionary (they must provide if they exist) and CSU has already stated they do not keep records e.g copies of actual certificates.
request no4 is irrelevant because it has already been presented before the court in Nigeria.

Summary: the whole exercise like all Atiku's fishing exercises with Buhari is a waste of time. there will be nothing new presented at the supreme court.

Again most people on Nairaland do not bother to use the valuable tool before them to fact check or investigate before they post.
They're most of the time blinded by petty jealousy and morbid hatred!!!!!!!

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by gabicon: 2:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
Israel07:


You're clearly not intelligent, a sophisticated dumb ass. Did you even pass through primary school to be writing nonsense such as this? Damn! Agbadorians are a liability and a hinderance to the progress of this nation. I pity whoever deals in business of any kind with you.
How can he use whatever is obtained by Atiku in the next election if it's different from the initial one submitted under oath? What kind of humans are in this country ffs!

Your disposition and point of view is one of the big problems we have in Nigeria. If you have a case state your case with facts and stop the names calling. Politics and law is not an emotional game, stop being emotional about them , put your emotion in check and stop using it to pass judgement. Make rational arguements, you can be wrong or right so can I, an intellectual discuss is what determines what side we are on.

Every election cycle credentials have to be submitted, it's within the prerogative of a candidate to withdraw or add new documents. The documents Atiku used in running during the 2019 elections had to be resubmitted for the 2023 elections.

Now Atiku has got a court order to get copies of Tinubu's certificate, that court order makes the certificate a legal tender, which Tinubu or whoever else can decide to use at will. So if Tinubu doesn't want to request his certificate from his school he can use the one obtained by Atiku should he choose.

Lastly, I foresee the supreme court judgement going in favour of Tinubu, why? Because all the actions filed are technicalities. Should the certificate Tinubu submitted is forged, and he decides to submit a copy of the one obtained by Atiku, he can be sued for forgery but can't be prosecuted because of presidential immunity should he win the 2027 elections.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by casualobserver: 2:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
kayusely70:
They're most of the time blinded by petty jealousy and morbid hatred!!!!!!!

I am genuinely mortified at the rate at which seemingly educated people have lost their ability to process information and think rationally. How they embark on paths that any right thinking person can see from the onset will lead nowhere and how when indeed as expected it doesnt they double down on another senseless path. Forget about our differences whether political, tribal or religious, this is very worrisome.

A day after the election, a whole SAN and former national chairman of the NBS came on TV to say you must win 25% in Abuja....how does that make sense to any right thinking lawyer? ..these guys have lost it. One Doofus here called toks2008 is talking about a diploma certificate with the wrong sex on it as evidence. Do typists and admin staff not make errors on certificates? have you managed to track down this female Bola A Tinubu? In any event did Tinubu present this certificate to INEC and is it a certificate issued by CSU? But if you listen to the Doofus, his whole premise is based in this certificate. They will now lose a case that had no merit and will want to burn down the country. It really is so so so sad.

I can disagree with people and respect them but stupidity is nauseating!!!

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by MT: 2:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
slowice:


Documented evidences that the court of law in it's infinite corruption choose to ignore base on technicalities.

You have the opportunity to show the "infinite corruption" at the Supreme Court.

Once judgement is not in your favour, you scream "corruption" to the high heaven. And I can bet you never listened or even read the judgement as you will consider it too long.

It was strongly assumed that you base your judgement on "hearsay". So typical

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Lovenorth: 2:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can simply write and present gce or any vocational or professional certificate equivalent to school cert
That's if he has one grin
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Kennitrust(m): 2:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais

are you scare😳😳😳
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:49pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kukutente23:

You must be high.
Does SARs answer to even commissioner of police not to mention gov? Why don't you hold Sanwo-Olu responsible for SARs killings in Lagos as well.
As for that money, it was a big fat lie. Nothing of such happened. It was simply brown envelope journalism

Continue vomiting alcohol induced trash.tinubu till 2031,if you can't take it,lagoon is an option

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by trytillmake(m): 2:51pm On Sep 20, 2023
Superemememe court go tell u say, that wan na pre-election matter, why was it not proved before elections were done, so dia 4, case thrown out.

Now maybe this will help opposition in 4yrs time, since if it is not in Tinubu's favour, he cant present this again to INEC.

But in any case if there is an issue with the result, it will seriously mar Tinubu's credibility as a President.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by shiwex: 2:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
a4cube:
How are you 100% sure the issuing authority will not testify against him if he forged the certificate?
The Judge called for a deposition, this is like saying swear under oath. That is admissible in courts.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Posh2018: 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2023
casualobserver:


I am genuinely mortified at the rate at which seemingly educated people have lost their ability to process information and think rationally. How they embark on paths that any right thinking person can see from the onset will lead nowhere and how when indeed as expected it doesnt they double down on another senseless path. Forget about our differences whether political, tribal or religious, this is very worrisome.

A day after the election, a whole SAN and former national chairman of the NBS came on TV to say you must win 25% in Abuja....how does that make sense to any right thinking lawyer? ..these guys have lost it. One Doofus here called toks2008 is talking about a diploma certificate with the wrong sex on it as evidence. Do typists and admin staff not make errors on certificates? have you managed to track down this female Bola A Tinubu? In any event did Tinubu present this certificate to INEC and is it a certificate issued by CSU? But if you listen to the Doofus, his whole premise is based in this certificate. They will now lose a case that had no merit and will want to burn down the country. It really is so so so sad.

I can disagree with people and respect them but stupidity is nauseating!!!

I really feel u. The Obidient movement is breeding very dangerous unreasonable, irrational and murderous cum suicidal mentality.

The mob mentality is frightening. The end is better imagined.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by casualobserver: 3:11pm On Sep 20, 2023
Posh2018:


I really feel u. The Obidient movement is breeding very dangerous unreasonable, irrational and murderous cum suicidal mentality.

The mob mentality is frightening. The end is better imagined.
It is worrisome...no jokes! there is nothing more dangerous than irrational people.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by AskNgige2: 3:15pm On Sep 20, 2023
Naija2023:


Tinubu doesn't need to write any exams.

he will simply use the documents CSU gave to Atiku for 2027

atleast it has been confirmed that he attended CSU and got CSU certificate.

Atiku just ended up helping Tinubu to eliminate any certificate controversy in 2027

U be Efulefu..

What do u even understand?

Social media beneficiary..

Does Tinibu know you?

Hunger go finish u soon..

Who even gave u data to come online self..

Efulefu
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Kukutente23: 3:22pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Continue vomiting alcohol induced trash.tinubu till 2031,if you can't take it,lagoon is an option
Have you eaten today?
How much is the 1k you used to beg for worth now
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by BreconHills(m): 3:32pm On Sep 20, 2023
wrongnumber:


Yadayadayada.

At least it will go down history books that Nigeria once had a confirmed Drug lord, an imposter, forger... And that once upon a times, we had clueless backward thinking Nigerians who supported him.

Now run off.

I have treated you with respect even if it is clear that Iam old enough to be your father or uncle. I have provided points and given facts which you can agree with or refute in a civil manner. Your response says more about you than the matter at hand. This is why obidients will be side lined by history. In less than 5 years the entire movement will be just a footnote to more articulate expressions by people of your generation who can communicate ideas across generations with clarity and civility. Froth and foam are impressive but only for a very short time.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Psoul(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can always sit for GCE

For what purpose?
I don't understand how some ppl reason.

You're bn accused of forgery which is a crime and you're now saying he can write GCE and get another certificate and present it.

Will presenting another authentic certificate erase the crime already committed. Very unreasonable brain.

Just like someone in 3rd year in the University. It was found that he got admission with another person's WAEC certificate and you are telling the person to write GCE and present the certificate.

How will the year of the GCE cert match with year of admission into the University?

If the case of there forgery is to be overlooked by the school, your 3yrs in the school will surely be invalid.
You'll need to go back to write another JAMB and start afresh.

For Tinubu's case, if it's established that his cert is forged, the state may wish to press criminal charge against him or bam him from contesting for any government offices in Nigeria.
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 3:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
Psoul:


For what purpose?
I don't understand how some ppl reason.

You're bn accused of forgery which is a crime and you're now saying he can write GCE and get another certificate and present it.

Will presenting another authentic certificate erase the crime already committed. Very unreasonable brain.

Just like someone in 3rd year in the University. It was found that he got admission with another person's WAEC certificate and you are telling the person to write GCE and present the certificate.

How will the year of the GCE cert match with year of admission into the University?

If the case of there forgery is to be overlooked by the school, your 3yrs in the school will surely be invalid.
You'll need to go back to write another JAMB and start afresh.

For Tinubu's case, if it's established that his cert is forged, the state may wish to press criminal charge against him or bam him from contesting for any government offices in Nigeria.

You are not getting me.tinubu is the president so eveh it forgery is discovered,the apex court cant do anything as it's too late to add new evidence.he has immunity from prosecution as president.so he will simply acquire GCE from neco
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 3:54pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kukutente23:

Have you eaten today?
How much is the 1k you used to beg for worth now

Are you tired of Stony rice at yabaleft
Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by dragunov: 3:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
seunmsg:


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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by dragunov: 4:04pm On Sep 20, 2023
seunmsg:


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