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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Horus(m): 5:08pm On Sep 24, 2023
A pair of carved, ivory leopards presented to Queen Victoria by Admiral Sir Harry Holdsworth Rawson after the capture of Benin by British troops in 1897

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 5:09pm On Sep 24, 2023
Stoplying:

Bro, let me give you respect, but sincerely, throw the video away.
I'm not trying to bully you, but please take my advices, I want more Africans to get things right, that is why I give these advises.
I'm gone now.

Shut up. You are BROKE. You no get money. Fake physicist.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Horus(m): 5:13pm On Sep 24, 2023
Left: Sixteenth century Benin Queen Idia mask (Iyoba). A nearly identical one is in the British Museum in London
[The Metropolitan Museum of Art]

Right: Osun pendant mask from Benin Kingdom. Mask is burnt across right top and below chin
[© The Trustees of the British Museum]

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 5:32pm On Sep 24, 2023
Horus:
Left: Sixteenth century Benin Queen Idia mask (Iyoba). A nearly identical one is in the British Museum in London
[The Metropolitan Museum of Art]

Right: Osun pendant mask from Benin Kingdom. Mask is burnt across right top and below chin
[© The Trustees of the British Museum]

The pendant mask looks like the headgear of the Pharaohs, with that python on the top.

Amazing find, Horus. wink

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Ajsmart(m): 10:05am On Sep 25, 2023
You’re a perfect example of the inferior-minded idiots we’re referring to. All your hopes and aspirations in life are to serve your slave masters and you will happily do so at your own detriment.

That you aspire for higher education does not mean you must drop or consider your language as inferior in order to please foreigners who hate your guts in the first place.

You can teach and learn to perfection in your ancestral language. Japan, China, Russia are just 3 examples of nations who became top nations and didn’t have to learn/speak foreign languages in order to achieve global success. These nations are free from European bullying.

By the way, centuries ago, it was your slave masters who used to travel to Egypt and Timbuktu to study at the first universities. Inferior-minds like yourselves sold yourselves out and eventually became enslaved on your own land.


blueAgent:




Rubbish.

When you have children or if you already have don't send them to school afterall school was brought by the slave masters to enslave us.

Let them stay at home and become aduio doctors and engineers grin

Clown.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by blueAgent(m): 11:06am On Sep 25, 2023
Ajsmart:
You’re a perfect example of the inferior-minded idiots we’re referring to. All your hopes and aspirations in life are to serve your slave masters and you will happily do so at your own detriment.

That you aspire for higher education does not mean you must drop or consider your language as inferior in order to please foreigners who hate your guts in the first place.

You can teach and learn to perfection in your ancestral language. Japan, China, Russia are just 3 examples of nations who became top nations and didn’t have to learn/speak foreign languages in order to achieve global success. These nations are free from European bullying.

By the way, centuries ago, it was your slave masters who used to travel to Egypt and Timbuktu to study at the first universities. Inferior-minds like yourselves sold yourselves out and eventually became enslaved on your own land.



You are a big FOOL.

The China, Japan,Russia you see as your role models still depend on the West for their educational content and technology.

200 years ago the Japanese were paying Dutch expatriate teachers to come to Japan to teach them.

In Japan English learning is one of electives courses, so also in China and other countries.

The Japanese prime minister wears suits and tie instead of Japanese traditional clothes same with Chinese president and other world leaders.

The world have moved on, only clowns like you blame their failure and incompetence on others.

See you.
You want to learn accounting, computer engineering economics,physics, Chemistry e.t.c in Yoruba, igbo, hausa

If you had sense you would know its not workable.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by blueAgent(m): 11:13am On Sep 25, 2023
Odibembem:


I lived and worked in Benin for 11 years besides d years I spent in Uniben as a student. No axis of Benin I don't know. I have friends and family in Benin and I visit d city at least once every month. Where exactly are d ruins of this phantom wall? Have u ever lived in Benin? If so u should tell me yourself where d ruins are. I was on ground in Benin,some dreamer-writer is telling u he used helicopter and satellite to locate d walls, are helicopters sharper than eyes on ground? Hear u talking of helicopter and satellite as if Benin is an inaccessible jungle like d Amazon. I can tell u that u don't need helicopter to access anywhere in Benin City, u have no idea of d city, simple. What rubbish and infantile thought process. Why not interview d custodians of Benin history and archives themselves, go to d Palace Chiefs, go to d Edebiris, d Osuans, d Isekhures and ask them if Benin had these phantom walls. The leading authority in Benin ancient history was Jacob Egharevba, he wrote a comprehensive book on Benin history, he is d undisputed authority. No where in d book did he mention anything about Benin wall. Have u read d book? Visit Chief Osuan at Vegetable Mkt, he is d custodian and holder of d keys to d shrines of d Oba, their family came with Oranmiyan from Ife, he is an a good position to tell u if those walks existed, his family meticulously keeps records. It is not remotely in your place to have this discussion with me. As far as Benin issues are concerned, u are 'igbon'.

Excellent.

I don laugh tire.

Blacks and fantasy grin grin grin
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 5:03am On Sep 27, 2023
Stoplying:

It is tiring talking to fools who believe they have cracked the code of human knowledge.
Things disappear over time, dome things don't, it is as simple as that. The British destroyed the walls of Benin in 1897, not just with bombs and fire, but also by destroying Benin empire which had the duty of maintaining the wall. Obviously I'm not an architect, nor an archaeologist, but the latter have been complaining that Nigeria was failing it's duty to maintain the wall leading to it fading away.
Picture of some Benin city walls taken in 1897.

This is what Ringroad looked like in 1897. These walls are also similar with the defensive walls of Benin city, walls which were observed by European visitors right from the 1400's and whose trace were still noticed by archeologists. But yeah the likes of you think it is all a conspiracy, even though we are talking about a thing which was written about by eyewitnesses since the 1400's (hundreds of years of people witnessing it and writing about it) and even today, archeologists write about it. You of course have cracked the code of human knowledge.

The picture here is d earthen wall made from red clay round d Oba's palace, they were tiny walls not more than 200m in length, don't be deceived. Is this what u guys are referring to? Pls rest, u have been fed a fable
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 5:20am On Sep 27, 2023
Rossikk:



You have no brain. You are thick.

Yeah. Google fed false information into the ‘Google App’ to give us a fake image.

Google also conspired with the Guinness Book of Records who first reported the wall in1974, 40 years before Google came into existence.

You clearly have mental issues.

You’re not well.

I note the number of aggressively abusive words u have used on me not over a quarel but a supposedly educative topic. On my part I have not abused u. It shows that's how your parents raised u meaning there is no way I can help u as a person with a very troubled upbringing in an abusive home. When u are losing d logic of an argument, what other option do u have than to resort to anger and corossion?

Anyway back to d fact. No Edo wall in any Guinness Book of Records, u have again been lied to. If there is show us a link here from d authentic GWR website.
But is it that it's so easy for u guys to be lied to? Someone wakes up and says Arualan uses palm tree as chewing stick and u believe? Herein lies d trauma of most black people - belief in superstition, belief in d sensational without bordering to investigate and even think for yourself. Those pictures u saw were of d palace walls not more than 200m long. Any other image u are seeing are three dimensional artificially generated. If Benin had d great walls like China, no way they won't be preserved up to this day, d Binis are perhaps d greatest cultural preservers in Nigeria. How possible would it be for d British to go round d city to destroy d entire length u claimed of d wall? If they were so mean why didn't they also destroy d palace completely? Don't believe d nonsense about a phantom wall. E no dey, Dem lie to u



Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Stoplying: 6:51am On Sep 27, 2023
Odibembem:


The picture here is d earthen wall made from red clay round d Oba's palace, they were tiny walls not more than 200m in length, don't be deceived. Is this what u guys are referring to? Pls rest, u have been fed a fable
Can you read ?
I clearly state that these are some Benin city walls, I even state the location: ring road.
As for your 200 m comment, you just keep going on tangents. Even the fence of an ordinary average sized house will rarely be less than 200 m, the perimetre of a football field is 400 metres, and you are saying that the palace walls were less than 200 m long. And you got those extraordinary measurements from your time travelling I guess.

I believe I gave you an other picture in which I also clearly state that I believe that is the picture of a part of the wall which is subject of your tirade of hatred.

You are the one who was fed a fable, you feed yourself a fable out of jealousy. The great walls of Benin are in the Guinness book of records, your jealousy and your fable will remain in your head.

History denialism is not new, it is just an other form of conspiracy theory, your mind can't accept facts and you try to force your mental illness upon others. For the last time, the wall was witnessed and written about for hundreds of years. Now don't quote me again and perhaps you should end your obsession about Benin and rather talk about your own people. I'm tired of always having all these mentally ill Nigerians obsessing about my people for one reason or the other. It seems every mentally ill Nigerian believes Edo people owe him explanations.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 2:57pm On Sep 27, 2023
Stoplying:

Can you read ?
I clearly state that these are some Benin city walls, I even state the location: ring road.
As for your 200 m comment, you just keep going on tangents. Even the fence of an ordinary average sized house will rarely be less than 200 m, the perimetre of a football field is 400 metres, and you are saying that the palace walls were less than 200 m long. And you got those extraordinary measurements from your time travelling I guess.

I believe I gave you an other picture in which I also clearly state that I believe that is the picture of a part of the wall which is subject of your tirade of hatred.

You are the one who was fed a fable, you feed yourself a fable out of jealousy. The great walls of Benin are in the Guinness book of records, your jealousy and your fable will remain in your head.

History denialism is not new, it is just an other form of conspiracy theory, your mind can't accept facts and you try to force your mental illness upon others. For the last time, the wall was witnessed and written about for hundreds of years. Now don't quote me again and perhaps you should end your obsession about Benin and rather talk about your own people. I'm tired of always having all these mentally ill Nigerians obsessing about my people for one reason or the other. It seems every mentally ill Nigerian believes Edo people owe him explanations.

For your information I am an Edo man, my fore fathers paid homage to the reverred Omonoba, I have a sacred duty to ensure honesty and integrity in any history of d great Empire of Benin. Did u say those walls are in Ring Road? Our own Ring Road, Kings Square that has d beginnings of Airport Rd, Sapele Road, Sakpomba Road, Akpakoava Road, Mission Road, Ekenwan Road and d short drive to d Palace? I give up on, there is no need to continue this.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Stoplying: 3:11pm On Sep 27, 2023
Odibembem:


For your information I am an Edo man, my fore fathers paid homage to the reverred Omonoba, I have a sacred duty to ensure honesty and integrity in any history of d great Empire of Benin. Did u say those walls are in Ring Road? Our own Ring Road, Kings Square that has d beginnings of Airport Rd, Sapele Road, Sakpomba Road, Akpakoava Road, Mission Road, Ekenwan Road and d short drive to d Palace? I give up on, there is no need to continue this.
Again, you lack the ability to understand history, when the picture was taken, the place was part of the palace and there was no airport. The point which I was making is that THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME! That is why I brought a picture from 1897 ! That is why I showed the difference in landscape.
Your problem is that if there were no picture, you would have reverted to your "reasoning" and claim it were a fable!
You think you are being "truthful" and "honest" but in reality you are being retarded. How can you be "truthful" and "honest" about a period which you did not witness ?
Instead of speaking out of logic, you are speaking out of your personal feelings like the retarded you are.

You do not understand history, but you somehow feel you have a say in history. Ask yourself if history courses in universities just focus on teaching feelings and "honesty" and "truthfulness". You don't even understand that history is to be researched, not on the current landscape, but on (again) eyewitness written documents which you in your great delusion have baptised with the name "fable", the rest of the world call it history though.
It seems that to you, either something still exists, either there is a photo of it, either it is a fable. In how many languages must I say that you are not intellectually qualified to talk about this topic ?

And stop making unverifiable claims of your ethnic origin, if anything is a fable, it is your unending claims.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by TheMensch(m): 11:14pm On Oct 11, 2023
Stoplying:

Again, you lack the ability to understand history, when the picture was taken, the place was part of the palace and there was no airport. The point which I was making is that THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME! That is why I brought a picture from 1897 ! That is why I showed the difference in landscape.
Your problem is that if there were no picture, you would have reverted to your "reasoning" and claim it were a fable!
You think you are being "truthful" and "honest" but in reality you are being retarded. How can you be "truthful" and "honest" about a period which you did not witness ?
Instead of speaking out of logic, you are speaking out of your personal feelings like the retarded you are.

You do not understand history, but you somehow feel you have a say in history. Ask yourself if history courses in universities just focus on teaching feelings and "honesty" and "truthfulness". You don't even understand that history is to be researched, not on the current landscape, but on (again) eyewitness written documents which you in your great delusion have baptised with the name "fable", the rest of the world call it history though.
It seems that to you, either something still exists, either there is a photo of it, either it is a fable. In how many languages must I say that you are not intellectually qualified to talk about this topic ?

And stop making unverifiable claims of your ethnic origin, if anything is a fable, it is your unending claims.

Your grammar is top notch man. Bravo. I like this.
You are intellectually sound.
I'd love to converse with you physically..

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by TheMensch(m): 11:21pm On Oct 11, 2023
Mr Rossikk,
I hope this finds you well.

I love your thought provocative arguments.
Brilliant.
Your analyses are sound informed and researched. Kudos.
Continue in your research, and do not forget to share them here.

This is one of the best threads I've ever seen in Nairaland, thanks to you.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Quintopia: 1:16am On Oct 12, 2023
Stoplying:

Again, you lack the ability to understand history, when the picture was taken, the place was part of the palace and there was no airport. The point which I was making is that THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME! That is why I brought a picture from 1897 ! That is why I showed the difference in landscape.
Your problem is that if there were no picture, you would have reverted to your "reasoning" and claim it were a fable!
You think you are being "truthful" and "honest" but in reality you are being retarded. How can you be "truthful" and "honest" about a period which you did not witness ?
Instead of speaking out of logic, you are speaking out of your personal feelings like the retarded you are.

You do not understand history, but you somehow feel you have a say in history. Ask yourself if history courses in universities just focus on teaching feelings and "honesty" and "truthfulness". You don't even understand that history is to be researched, not on the current landscape, but on (again) eyewitness written documents which you in your great delusion have baptised with the name "fable", the rest of the world call it history though.
It seems that to you, either something still exists, either there is a photo of it, either it is a fable. In how many languages must I say that you are not intellectually qualified to talk about this topic ?

And stop making unverifiable claims of your ethnic origin, if anything is a fable, it is your unending claims.

Some Nigerians are so conditioned to feeling racially inferior that there is no evidence you will present to them, including physically transporting them back in time to the era under discussion, that will convince them they are not inferior. They will return and say you sent them to a fantasy world. It's as simple as that.

You can't help everyone.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 1:31am On Oct 12, 2023
Razgas:
when you tag people who support a presidential candidate as 'terrorists ' then you are worst than scum
Most hard-core ipob members hate Peter Obi. Every igbo person knows this. Strange thing you don't

The boy is truly worse than a scum and I suspect he may have an underlying mental issues.

He his an unrepentant tribal bigot.
He is worse than the lowest of scums.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 1:33am On Oct 12, 2023
justmondris:

Why do I need an internet picture to
See the wall, and where is the wall located in Benin city?

He has no answer for you. Take him seriously at your own peril.

The wall only exists in his crazed imaginations.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by DeepSight(m): 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2023
Rossikk:


Spare me that BS. Obidients are not normal. They are hardcore tribalists for the most part. They don't believe in democratic choice, and made it their job to vilify, demonise and abuse political opponents and other candidates.

Virtually all of you call Tinubu a ''drug lord'' which is OUTRAGEOUS, since he has never been convicted of any offence.

That's called character assassination.

Is it a crime to run for president? How do you think his children and grandchildren feel when you call their dad a drug lord on social media? His own people in the west..how do you think they feel when you call their champion a drug lord?

Go and LEARN how to live among others, because right now, I consider you ignorant, filthy, repulsive scum of the Earth mirroring the similarly toxic, intolerant, authoritarian IPOB.

It is a fact that he forfeited narcotic related funds.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by DeepSight(m): 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2023
Rossikk you did marvelous with this thread. Thumbs up.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by creativehubb: 4:48pm On Oct 24, 2023
The greatest empire state from West Africa, apart from Timbuktu.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 5:46pm On Oct 24, 2023
tommy589:


We were developing at our own pace until the cursed day we met the whites. Since then we have become their victim of servitude and our land theirs to plunder
you were retarding until the blessed white man rescued your ancestors from primitive existence
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by tommy589(m): 7:25pm On Oct 24, 2023
Pascal9:
you were retarding until the blessed white man rescued your ancestors from primitive existence

Try not to judge others by your ancestors standard. And true to type,apple does not fall far from the tree

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 10:14am On Oct 25, 2023
tommy589:


Try not to judge others by your ancestors standard. And true to type,apple does not fall far from the tree

tell me what your ancestors produced or invented that made a major impact on humanity
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by tommy589(m): 12:10pm On Oct 25, 2023
Pascal9:
tell me what your ancestors produced or invented that made a major impact on humanity



They had no state aggression policies of intimidating, conquering and exploiting people who lived simple lives. Japan had free time to become inventive after cornering China and Korea wealth for centuries with their military might Same with English,French, Spain,Dutch and the rest.

How was China and Korea doing until the last 70-80 years. Tell me what China and Korea invented since the last 700 years. Blacks invention in the new world surpassed what Japan,Korea and China combined invented

My answer is that they lived within their means and invented what is useful to their basic needs. Weaving mills to keep them clothed,Bows and arrows to hunt.And when they got hold of Dane guns,blacksmiths fabricated it. This is proof they were not without brains

https://www.cadcrowd.com/blog/top-101-black-inventors-african-americans-best-invention-ideas-that-changed-the-world/

Just like the African blacksmiths that fabricated guns. Imagine copied technologies and innovations indigenous blacks would have used to transform Africa if the white man imposition did not happen here

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 12:52pm On Oct 25, 2023
tommy589:




They had no state aggression policies of intimidating, conquering and exploiting people who lived simple lives. Japan had free time to become inventive after cornering China and Korea wealth for centuries with their military might Same with English,French, Spain,Dutch and the rest.

How was China and Korea doing until the last 70-80 years. Tell me what China and Korea invented since the last 700 years. Blacks invention in the new world surpassed what Japan,Korea and China combined invented

My answer is that they lived within their means and invented what is useful to their basic needs. Weaving mills to keep them clothed,Bows and arrows to hunt.And when they got hold of Dane guns,blacksmiths fabricated it. This is proof they were not without brains

https://www.cadcrowd.com/blog/top-101-black-inventors-african-americans-best-invention-ideas-that-changed-the-world/

Just like the African blacksmiths that fabricated guns. Imagine copied technologies and innovations indigenous blacks would have used to transform Africa if the white man imposition did not happen here
i ask you simple question and you are rigmarolin, you should be greatful to the benevolent whites, otherwise you would have been sacrificed to your ancestors Gods. You can return to okomu bush and hunt with bow and arrow if you don't want the present arrangement.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by QueenNyakim: 4:25pm On Oct 31, 2023
Obi1kenobi:


Do you have a source for the emboldened claim? Cos through West African history, the Benin Kingdom were pretty well-noted, prolific enslavers and slave dealers (many Edoid people today are almost proud of that fact when they insult other tribes as having been enslaved by them)? It seems you're deflecting from that by making unrelated claims about Egypt - which you claim to be a Eurocentric lie (in your typically paranoid conspiracies) even though the scholarly consensus of Western archaeologists was critical in busting the myth that the pyramids weren't actually built by slaves.

Benin Empire banned male slave exports in 1516 as prohibitted by Oba Esigie and especially after 1530 when its textiles industry began to thrive. And later the trade stopped altogether in the late 1600s. The Portuguese were forced to move to Warri for slaves.

read Thornton or Ryder.

Also,

A study of the Portuguese-Benin Trade Relations: Ughoton as a Benin Port (1485 -1506) ( by Michael Ediagbonya) and A Critique of the Contributions of Old Benin Empire to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue8/Version-2/B020820412.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/15423239/A_study_of_the_Portuguese-Benin_Trade_Relations_Ughoton_as_a_Benin_Port_1485_-1506_by_Michael_Ediagbonya_

Basically, the slave trade in the Benin Empire was seen as taboo and merchants caught practicing in the illegal trade were severely punished by decree and only criminals were sacrificed. The British didn't invade Benin because of "slavery" lol it banned centuries ago but they got fed up of Benin's protectionist policies that stopped British influence regarding trade.

Its nothing more than white supremacist propaganda that a blanket statement that all Africans as if we are all a monolith part-took in the slave trade and sold our "own" people to Europeans and Arabs.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Kushites: 5:04pm On Oct 31, 2023
Pascal9:
i ask you simple question and you are rigmarolin, you should be greatful to the benevolent whites, otherwise you would have been sacrificed to your ancestors Gods. You can return to okomu bush and hunt with bow and arrow if you don't want the present arrangement.

Ignorant slave dunce with no brain. Are you even aware that black Africans ruled and brought education and learning to Europe between 711 and the 1500s, nearly 900 years?

And thousands of years before that, black Africans invented writing, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, architecture, mining of minerals and iron smelting, seafaring, and international trade.

These are inventions and innovations without which there would be NO modern age today.

I know all this sounds like a fairytale to your little brainwashed-to-feel-inferior head, but basic research into your black history reveals a LOT of facts you know absolutely nothing about.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 9:24pm On Oct 31, 2023
Kushites:


Ignorant slave dunce with no brain. Are you even aware that black Africans ruled and brought education and learning to Europe between 711 and the 1500s, nearly 900 years?

And thousands of years before that, black Africans invented writing, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, architecture, mining of minerals and iron smelting, seafaring, and international trade.

These are inventions and innovations without which there would be NO modern age today.

I know all this sounds like a fairytale to your little brainwashed-to-feel-inferior head, but basic research into your black history reveals a LOT of facts you know absolutely nothing about.



akuko
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:29pm On Oct 31, 2023
Rossikk:


I just posted pictures of the wall above here. What are you talking about?

The wall is partly overground and partly moat, which is covered by greenery.

Successive governments have neglected and ignored it.

In a serious country where people took pride in their history and heritage, that wall would have been our BIGGEST INCOME EARNER even more than oil, as a result of tourism.

This is literally the biggest man-made structure ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

Only visible in its entirety from outer space!

On Google Earth!


Yet most NIGERIANS don't even know it exists, talk less of the world's people.

Ordinary Stonehenge in England brings in more than 20 billion dollars annually to the UK in tourism receipts.

Stonehenge is just a few rocks piled on top of each other to form a small circle.

Stonehenge


The whole world knows about Stonehenge, but nobody knows about the Great Benin Wall that is 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China.

In fact we have problems as a people.




Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:32pm On Oct 31, 2023
QueenNyakim:


Bini Empire banned slave exports after 1516 and especially after 1530 when its textiles industry began to thrive.

read Thornton or Ryder.

Also,

A study of the Portuguese-Benin Trade Relations: Ughoton as a Benin Port (1485 -1506) ( by Michael Ediagbonya) and A Critique of the Contributions of Old Benin Empire to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue8/Version-2/B020820412.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/15423239/A_study_of_the_Portuguese-Benin_Trade_Relations_Ughoton_as_a_Benin_Port_1485_-1506_by_Michael_Ediagbonya_

Basically, the slave trade in the Bini Empire was seen as taboo and merchants caught practicing in the illegal trade were severely punished by decree of Oba Adolo. Also, only criminals were sacrificed. The British didn't invade Bini because of "slavery" it banned centuries ago but to gain control of the Palm Oil industry.

Its nothing more than white supremacist propaganda that a blanket statement that all Africans as if we are all a monolith part-took in the slave trade and sold our "own" people to Europeans and Arabs.
Indeed.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:34pm On Oct 31, 2023
Rossikk:
According to British newspaper, the UK Guardian,



https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Benin Wall and Moat

As it looked 500 years ago:
That's an awesome chunk of history.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:07pm On Nov 06, 2023
QueenNyakim:


Benin Empire banned male slave exports in 1516 as prohibitted by Oba Esigie and especially after 1530 when its textiles industry began to thrive. And later the trade stopped altogether in the late 1600s. The Portuguese were forced to move to Warri for slaves.

read Thornton or Ryder.

Also,

A study of the Portuguese-Benin Trade Relations: Ughoton as a Benin Port (1485 -1506) ( by Michael Ediagbonya) and A Critique of the Contributions of Old Benin Empire to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue8/Version-2/B020820412.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/15423239/A_study_of_the_Portuguese-Benin_Trade_Relations_Ughoton_as_a_Benin_Port_1485_-1506_by_Michael_Ediagbonya_

Basically, the slave trade in the Benin Empire was seen as taboo and merchants caught practicing in the illegal trade were severely punished by decree and only criminals were sacrificed. The British didn't invade Benin because of "slavery" lol it banned centuries ago but they got fed up of Benin's protectionist policies that stopped British influence regarding trade.

Its nothing more than white supremacist propaganda that a blanket statement that all Africans as if we are all a monolith part-took in the slave trade and sold our "own" people to Europeans and Arabs.

You created a lot of strawmen here, and you're responding to strawmen you created as if it's somehow my assertion. Who said that the British invaded Benin because of slavery? Who said that all Africans took part in the slave trade? Slavery was pretty ubiquitous in the Benin Kingdom. Usually not the Obas themselves trading with the Portuguese and subsequently other Europeans that came after, but the constituent nations of the Benin Kingdom that paid tribute to the Oba, like the Itsekiris, were prolific slave traders right up to the late 18th century.

I note where you said above that the Oba "banned male slave exports in 1516". So were female slave exports tolerated? Is it a ban on the institution of slavery if it's conditional on your sex, or whether you're a war captive, or criminal, or whoever?

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