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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Horus(m): 5:08pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
A pair of carved, ivory leopards presented to Queen Victoria by Admiral Sir Harry Holdsworth Rawson after the capture of Benin by British troops in 1897 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 5:09pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Stoplying: Shut up. You are BROKE. You no get money. Fake physicist. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Horus(m): 5:13pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Left: Sixteenth century Benin Queen Idia mask (Iyoba). A nearly identical one is in the British Museum in London [The Metropolitan Museum of Art] Right: Osun pendant mask from Benin Kingdom. Mask is burnt across right top and below chin [© The Trustees of the British Museum] 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 5:32pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Horus: The pendant mask looks like the headgear of the Pharaohs, with that python on the top. Amazing find, Horus. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Ajsmart(m): 10:05am On Sep 25, 2023 |
You’re a perfect example of the inferior-minded idiots we’re referring to. All your hopes and aspirations in life are to serve your slave masters and you will happily do so at your own detriment. That you aspire for higher education does not mean you must drop or consider your language as inferior in order to please foreigners who hate your guts in the first place. You can teach and learn to perfection in your ancestral language. Japan, China, Russia are just 3 examples of nations who became top nations and didn’t have to learn/speak foreign languages in order to achieve global success. These nations are free from European bullying. By the way, centuries ago, it was your slave masters who used to travel to Egypt and Timbuktu to study at the first universities. Inferior-minds like yourselves sold yourselves out and eventually became enslaved on your own land. blueAgent: 2 Likes |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by blueAgent(m): 11:06am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Ajsmart: You are a big FOOL. The China, Japan,Russia you see as your role models still depend on the West for their educational content and technology. 200 years ago the Japanese were paying Dutch expatriate teachers to come to Japan to teach them. In Japan English learning is one of electives courses, so also in China and other countries. The Japanese prime minister wears suits and tie instead of Japanese traditional clothes same with Chinese president and other world leaders. The world have moved on, only clowns like you blame their failure and incompetence on others. See you. You want to learn accounting, computer engineering economics,physics, Chemistry e.t.c in Yoruba, igbo, hausa If you had sense you would know its not workable. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by blueAgent(m): 11:13am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Odibembem: Excellent. I don laugh tire. Blacks and fantasy |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 5:03am On Sep 27, 2023 |
Stoplying: The picture here is d earthen wall made from red clay round d Oba's palace, they were tiny walls not more than 200m in length, don't be deceived. Is this what u guys are referring to? Pls rest, u have been fed a fable |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 5:20am On Sep 27, 2023 |
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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Stoplying: 6:51am On Sep 27, 2023 |
Odibembem:Can you read ? I clearly state that these are some Benin city walls, I even state the location: ring road. As for your 200 m comment, you just keep going on tangents. Even the fence of an ordinary average sized house will rarely be less than 200 m, the perimetre of a football field is 400 metres, and you are saying that the palace walls were less than 200 m long. And you got those extraordinary measurements from your time travelling I guess. I believe I gave you an other picture in which I also clearly state that I believe that is the picture of a part of the wall which is subject of your tirade of hatred. You are the one who was fed a fable, you feed yourself a fable out of jealousy. The great walls of Benin are in the Guinness book of records, your jealousy and your fable will remain in your head. History denialism is not new, it is just an other form of conspiracy theory, your mind can't accept facts and you try to force your mental illness upon others. For the last time, the wall was witnessed and written about for hundreds of years. Now don't quote me again and perhaps you should end your obsession about Benin and rather talk about your own people. I'm tired of always having all these mentally ill Nigerians obsessing about my people for one reason or the other. It seems every mentally ill Nigerian believes Edo people owe him explanations. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Odibembem: 2:57pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
Stoplying: For your information I am an Edo man, my fore fathers paid homage to the reverred Omonoba, I have a sacred duty to ensure honesty and integrity in any history of d great Empire of Benin. Did u say those walls are in Ring Road? Our own Ring Road, Kings Square that has d beginnings of Airport Rd, Sapele Road, Sakpomba Road, Akpakoava Road, Mission Road, Ekenwan Road and d short drive to d Palace? I give up on, there is no need to continue this. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Stoplying: 3:11pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
Odibembem:Again, you lack the ability to understand history, when the picture was taken, the place was part of the palace and there was no airport. The point which I was making is that THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME! That is why I brought a picture from 1897 ! That is why I showed the difference in landscape. Your problem is that if there were no picture, you would have reverted to your "reasoning" and claim it were a fable! You think you are being "truthful" and "honest" but in reality you are being retarded. How can you be "truthful" and "honest" about a period which you did not witness ? Instead of speaking out of logic, you are speaking out of your personal feelings like the retarded you are. You do not understand history, but you somehow feel you have a say in history. Ask yourself if history courses in universities just focus on teaching feelings and "honesty" and "truthfulness". You don't even understand that history is to be researched, not on the current landscape, but on (again) eyewitness written documents which you in your great delusion have baptised with the name "fable", the rest of the world call it history though. It seems that to you, either something still exists, either there is a photo of it, either it is a fable. In how many languages must I say that you are not intellectually qualified to talk about this topic ? And stop making unverifiable claims of your ethnic origin, if anything is a fable, it is your unending claims. 2 Likes |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by TheMensch(m): 11:14pm On Oct 11, 2023 |
Stoplying: Your grammar is top notch man. Bravo. I like this. You are intellectually sound. I'd love to converse with you physically.. 2 Likes |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by TheMensch(m): 11:21pm On Oct 11, 2023 |
Mr Rossikk, I hope this finds you well. I love your thought provocative arguments. Brilliant. Your analyses are sound informed and researched. Kudos. Continue in your research, and do not forget to share them here. This is one of the best threads I've ever seen in Nairaland, thanks to you. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Quintopia: 1:16am On Oct 12, 2023 |
Stoplying: Some Nigerians are so conditioned to feeling racially inferior that there is no evidence you will present to them, including physically transporting them back in time to the era under discussion, that will convince them they are not inferior. They will return and say you sent them to a fantasy world. It's as simple as that. You can't help everyone. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 1:31am On Oct 12, 2023 |
Razgas: The boy is truly worse than a scum and I suspect he may have an underlying mental issues. He his an unrepentant tribal bigot. He is worse than the lowest of scums. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 1:33am On Oct 12, 2023 |
justmondris: He has no answer for you. Take him seriously at your own peril. The wall only exists in his crazed imaginations. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by DeepSight(m): 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2023 |
Rossikk: It is a fact that he forfeited narcotic related funds. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by DeepSight(m): 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2023 |
Rossikk you did marvelous with this thread. Thumbs up. 2 Likes |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by creativehubb: 4:48pm On Oct 24, 2023 |
The greatest empire state from West Africa, apart from Timbuktu. 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 5:46pm On Oct 24, 2023 |
tommy589:you were retarding until the blessed white man rescued your ancestors from primitive existence |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by tommy589(m): 7:25pm On Oct 24, 2023 |
Pascal9: Try not to judge others by your ancestors standard. And true to type,apple does not fall far from the tree 2 Likes |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 10:14am On Oct 25, 2023 |
tommy589:tell me what your ancestors produced or invented that made a major impact on humanity |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by tommy589(m): 12:10pm On Oct 25, 2023 |
Pascal9: They had no state aggression policies of intimidating, conquering and exploiting people who lived simple lives. Japan had free time to become inventive after cornering China and Korea wealth for centuries with their military might Same with English,French, Spain,Dutch and the rest. How was China and Korea doing until the last 70-80 years. Tell me what China and Korea invented since the last 700 years. Blacks invention in the new world surpassed what Japan,Korea and China combined invented My answer is that they lived within their means and invented what is useful to their basic needs. Weaving mills to keep them clothed,Bows and arrows to hunt.And when they got hold of Dane guns,blacksmiths fabricated it. This is proof they were not without brains https://www.cadcrowd.com/blog/top-101-black-inventors-african-americans-best-invention-ideas-that-changed-the-world/ Just like the African blacksmiths that fabricated guns. Imagine copied technologies and innovations indigenous blacks would have used to transform Africa if the white man imposition did not happen here 1 Like |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 12:52pm On Oct 25, 2023 |
tommy589:i ask you simple question and you are rigmarolin, you should be greatful to the benevolent whites, otherwise you would have been sacrificed to your ancestors Gods. You can return to okomu bush and hunt with bow and arrow if you don't want the present arrangement. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by QueenNyakim: 4:25pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Obi1kenobi: Benin Empire banned male slave exports in 1516 as prohibitted by Oba Esigie and especially after 1530 when its textiles industry began to thrive. And later the trade stopped altogether in the late 1600s. The Portuguese were forced to move to Warri for slaves. read Thornton or Ryder. Also, A study of the Portuguese-Benin Trade Relations: Ughoton as a Benin Port (1485 -1506) ( by Michael Ediagbonya) and A Critique of the Contributions of Old Benin Empire to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue8/Version-2/B020820412.pdf https://www.academia.edu/15423239/A_study_of_the_Portuguese-Benin_Trade_Relations_Ughoton_as_a_Benin_Port_1485_-1506_by_Michael_Ediagbonya_ Basically, the slave trade in the Benin Empire was seen as taboo and merchants caught practicing in the illegal trade were severely punished by decree and only criminals were sacrificed. The British didn't invade Benin because of "slavery" lol it banned centuries ago but they got fed up of Benin's protectionist policies that stopped British influence regarding trade. Its nothing more than white supremacist propaganda that a blanket statement that all Africans as if we are all a monolith part-took in the slave trade and sold our "own" people to Europeans and Arabs. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Kushites: 5:04pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Pascal9: Ignorant slave dunce with no brain. Are you even aware that black Africans ruled and brought education and learning to Europe between 711 and the 1500s, nearly 900 years? And thousands of years before that, black Africans invented writing, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, architecture, mining of minerals and iron smelting, seafaring, and international trade. These are inventions and innovations without which there would be NO modern age today. I know all this sounds like a fairytale to your little brainwashed-to-feel-inferior head, but basic research into your black history reveals a LOT of facts you know absolutely nothing about. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Pascal9: 9:24pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Kushites:akuko |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:29pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:32pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
QueenNyakim:Indeed. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Swiftgrp: 9:34pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Rossikk:That's an awesome chunk of history. |
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:07pm On Nov 06, 2023 |
QueenNyakim: You created a lot of strawmen here, and you're responding to strawmen you created as if it's somehow my assertion. Who said that the British invaded Benin because of slavery? Who said that all Africans took part in the slave trade? Slavery was pretty ubiquitous in the Benin Kingdom. Usually not the Obas themselves trading with the Portuguese and subsequently other Europeans that came after, but the constituent nations of the Benin Kingdom that paid tribute to the Oba, like the Itsekiris, were prolific slave traders right up to the late 18th century. I note where you said above that the Oba "banned male slave exports in 1516". So were female slave exports tolerated? Is it a ban on the institution of slavery if it's conditional on your sex, or whether you're a war captive, or criminal, or whoever? |
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